You Are Not The Sun

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Al has done it again. As most of you have seen by now, Yellon Fever has posted an open letter to Cubs fans. It's bad, it's sad, and it's more than a little embarassing.

"There's going to be an apology coming up, but first I want to tell you a couple of stories. Please note! This post is going to be quite long. Pull up a chair, if you aren't in one, and settle in for a while. (And please. Please, please. Be respectful and kind in your comments.)"

I hope the apology is for how self-important you think you are. When I write, I try to be pretty careful blending what I hope is objective information about the Cubs and my own biases. People (I'd imagine) don't come to Obstructed View to hear about me…they want to hear about the Cubs. If I speak through my own filter, hopefully I can add something to that discussion and readers can come away feeling like they spent their time wisely – and if every once in awhile, I indulge myself by sharing something more intimate, it comes away that much more impactful. This is a perfect example – I'm not afraid to say I teared up reading this. I tear up when reading your shit too, Al, but for a different reason. 

Also, I imagine that 99.5% of your readership is in a chair when reading your slurry. 

"Some of you might know who Carmella Hartigan was. If you don't… here's her story.

Carmella was an everyday regular in the left-center field bleachers for decades — this was before the bleacher reconstruction; you could find her sitting in the last row wearing her pink Cubs cap for nearly every game. She was born Carmella Tamburino in a small village in Italy, February 14, 1902, and arrived in the United States in 1916. Eventually, she became a Cubs fan and started coming to the bleachers regularly in 1965, after her husband died. She lived on the North Side near Horner Park; until she was well into her 90s she rode two buses to Wrigley Field and back every day. In her later years, disappointed with the Cubs' failures as all the rest of us have been, her mantra on hoping they'd eventually win it all was: "How long do they think I can wait?"

Mike Bojanowski told me that, upon saying his usual season-end farewell to her in September 2002, Carmella told him she didn't expect to return, saying, "If it's your fortune to live as long as I have, you'll understand."

She was right. Carmella died December 21, 2002, aged 100 years, 10 months. I attended her wake at a North Side funeral home, where her family was astounded at the number of her bleacher friends who showed up. We did so because, in that sense, she was family. She's buried with that pink Cubs cap.

Even though Carmella was alive when the Cubs won their last World Series, as a small girl in Italy, she likely knew nothing of them at the time, so she never saw her favorite team win it all, despite living more than a century."

Ok. I can live with this story. It's pretty sweet, and it's a nice little tug at the heartstrings. Statistically, most Cubs fans have died without seeing their team win a World Series (but that's not even unique to the Cubs – ask an Astros fan about the last time they won it all.)

"Here's another story, told by Sun-Times sportswriter Rick Telander. Now, I'm pretty sure Telander isn't one of your favorites; neither is he one of mine, as I wrote this post only a few weeks ago blasting him on a topic unrelated to this. But two years ago, Telander wrote this, with which I identify very, very strongly:

I was asked by a radio host the other day whether I stood by my long-repeated statement that the Cubs won’t win a World Series in my lifetime. I immediately said yes.  

I said it was all actuarial. I’m 62, and I first thought the Cubs were going to win it all 42 years ago, in 1969, when I was a college sophomore and before Santo, Banks, Williams and pals expired in the August heat. But say I’ve got two good decades ahead of me, maybe even three. In fact, let’s say I’m an outlier and make it to 102. Forty more years.  

That’s nothing! That’s less than 40 percent of the time the Cubs already have gone without winning a championship.

(Note that you can now add two more years to what Telander said, since that column was posted July 30, 2011.)"

Umm… that's not how "actuarial" works, Al/Rick. First off, correlation does not prove causation. What happened in 1924 doesn't have any noticeable effect on 1986, or 2014, or any other year when none of those players/management were on the team. 

Let's think of it this way. Each team has a roughly equal shot at winning the WS. There are 30 teams, so the probability you DON'T win the WS is, say, 29/30. The probability that you don't win the WS in the next n years is (29/30)^n. When does is become more likely than not that the Cubs will have won a WS? 21 years. After 40 years, it's roughly a 1/4 chance (25.8% against). This only holds, of course, if you believe the Cubs are positioned to be just an average franchise in the future (and we can't look back, because past trials hold no bearing on future ones); I'd argue that's pretty obviously false, as the Cubs play in the 4th biggest media market, and have a better than average payroll as a result, and have better than average management, etc.

"And that's where I stand, and now let me explain why I feel the way I do. This week, I become the parent of two college students."

Congrats! I'm glad they've escaped.

"That's a milestone in anyone's life, and at nearly 57, I have begun to contemplate my own mortality. I've done pretty well in the genetic lottery; my maternal grandmother lived to be 100, and my dad is still around and will be 92 later this year (and he reads this site, so be nice). Another personal milestone: there is now someone who is in the major leagues who is younger than one of my kids (Jurickson Profar, born in 1993).

If I live as long as my dad has, that'd be 35 more years, which is a good long time. That makes me think back to 35 years ago — 1978. That's the year I graduated from college. The time since then has gone by in the blink of an eye. In considering that, think about this: the Cubs' drought for not even getting to the World Series was 33 years in 1978. That drought — not even the World Series-winning drought, just the drought of even getting there — is now more than twice that length."

This is a stat of which we are all aware. Totally sucks. Remind me again how the failures or the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 00s have an effect on our chances going forward?

"Time goes by so fast. Years pile upon years with a blur. You'll please forgive me, then, if I at times seem a little impatient with everything that's going on with the current state of our favorite team."

I will not, and you can't make me.

"Patience thins, and here's where I apologize. Simply living longer and having experienced more Cubs failures doesn't make me better or make my opinion more important than anyone else's. We've all suffered disappointments and soul-crushing defeats. It does give me a longer perspective than many of you; that's all I was trying to say. Some who are my age or older are willing to be more patient; that's cool. Some aren't. I'm having a hard time with it right now, partly because of changes in my own life. I apologize for being over-the-top with this following Friday's loss, and I hope you will forgive me for letting it get to me. But there are times I do begin to wonder if I will die without ever seeing the Cubs win the World Series. Seriously, and that's a sobering thought. Carmella Hartigan lived a century and never saw it. Quite a number of friends, met in the bleachers, some younger than me, died without ever seeing it."

On a level, I sympathize with you. You'd think, though, that with your many years of sitting in the worst seats at Wrigley and watching Mel Rojas blow another save, you'd gain a little more perspective, especially concerning a loss by a club that has no playoff aspirations whatsoever. The loss more-or-less helps the club, and if you've been to games for the last 40 or so years, you've probably seen around 1800 losses in person anyway.

I love the Cubs more than I probably should. I spend most of my day at work (and part of my day at home) refreshing this site, and Brett's. It would bum me out pretty hard if the Cubs never won the World Series in my lifetime…but it wouldn't be close to the top of bad things that would happen to me, over the course of my life. The Cubs are entertainment; they don't give my life it's meaning.

"Now, on to the analysis part of this epic. Many of you have said, in connection with what current Cubs front-office management is doing, "This kind of thing hasn't been done in the entire century of failure." I respectfully submit that statement is incorrect. A build like this has been tried before, and more than once.

Dallas Green began doing it when he took over — and the Cubs organization was in much worse shape in late 1981 than it was in late 2011. The cupboard was empty; there was almost no talent on the major-league team (save Bill Buckner) and almost nothing in the system, except for the recently-promoted Lee Smith, two guys who were selected in the last years of the Wrigley regime (Mel Hall and Joe Carter) and Jody Davis, probably the best Rule 5 pick the Cubs have ever made.

Green's drafts produced quite a number of quality major-league players: Mark Grace, Greg MadduxShawon DunstonRafael Palmeiro, Joe Girardi and Jamie Moyer, and some others of lesser talent. Green, unfortunately, wasn't allowed to complete his mission. It was one of Tribune Company's biggest mistakes to let Green go. But you can't say this exact thing — building a strong organization — wasn't tried. Green supplemented it with key free agents (Ron Cey, for example) and trades, bringing over several major-league players from his old team, the Phillies, and of course, making the deal that got Ryne Sandberg to the North Side. Green got upset when the Cubs lost 13 in a row in spring training in 1984 and pulled the trigger on the deal that got Gary Matthews and Bob Dernier to the Cubs just before Opening Day. The Cubs don't win the National League East in 1984 without that trade."

Do you realize the irony in what you just posted? I don't think you do. You are saying that building a strong organization has been tried before, and that it was a mistake to fire Green, especially after his crafty trades and signings led directly to the Cubs biggest success in the past 40 years. Man, it sure would be irresponsible to judge this organization that quickly, especially because in your scenario, it took 3 whole years to go from worst-to-first!

"I'd like to see Theo Epstein get that upset with losing."

What. The. Fuck? This is an unnecessary potshot at a guy who, for all we know, is very upset with losing. What makes you think that Theo Epstein isn't upset with losing? Does he get bonuses for finish with 100 losses? No. He realizes the value of thinking with your head instead of your heart, and he's had LESS time to work than Dallas did before he fielded a team capable of winning the division. 

"It was tried again when Andy MacPhail was hired away from the Twins. You can bash MacPhail all you want, and yes, many of his methods failed, as did those of his successor, Jim Hendry."

Now THIS is how you set up a point for success!

"But the Cubs under MacPhail produced Kerry WoodMark Prior and Carlos Zambrano. Had those three pitchers remained healthy (both mentally and physically), they could have been the core of a playoff-caliber starting rotation for more than a decade. The draft under MacPhail also produced Jon GarlandRicky Nolasco and Dontrelle Willis, sent away in ill-advised trades (though the Willis trade did bring back three decent years of Matt Clement), as well as Scott Downs, a serviceable big-league reliever for more than a decade."

When "serviceable reliever" is in your list of successes under the Andy MacPhail era, it's not that successful an era. 

"The MacPhail years didn't produce any significant position players other than Ryan Theriot and Geovany Soto; neither had the long-term impact you'd like to see from the draft. Its later years and the Jim Hendry years produced poor first-round picks: Bobby Brownlie, Ryan Harvey, Grant Johnson and Mark Pawelek. (Ugh. That's four straight years of failed No. 1 picks from 2002-2005.)"

I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make here. A poor GM made poor draft choices? Cool!

"So you can't say an organizational build hasn't been tried. It has. Both of those general managers presided over eras that did produce quite a number of good major-league players. The organization, for reasons we now know all too well, never had the depth it needed, and it's not my point to recount those failures here."

What is your point? We are like a thousand words into this article, and over half of the readers have either left BCB or fallen asleep at their monitors. All you've told us is that build a strong organization was tried once or twice before, and that it was working until people gave up on it too early (curse those media types like Al Yellon, who always quit too soon) or when they had bad drafts (which, ok, lets wait and see because this regime has had 2 drafts so far)

"The current regime has invested a tremendous amount of money in young players, both through the draft and international signings, and has opened an academy in the Dominican Republic that we all hope will bring success in the future. These are, without question, good things, though you'll forgive me if I don't share all the excitement that was posted here and elsewhere about the millions spent this July on 16-year-old kids, who, ifeverything goes right, might be at Wrigley Field in 2019 or 2020. It's the same reason I don't really care if someone's "arb clock" is started one year early so the Cubs could, presumably, save a few million dollars eight years from now. That could be eight more years without winning a damn thing."

So we agree that spending money on good, young players is a good thing, right? We're on the same page here? You're definitely overreaching on the arb clock thing, by the way. What player, or combination of players, would have helped the Cubs win the World Series any earlier if we had just said "arb clocks be damned!"

Money is a finite resource, and I'd argue it's a GOOD thing that our FO is not spending it frivolously. Does starting Javier Baez's arb clock a year early do us any good in ANY of the next 6 years, if winning the WS is the only goal (and I'd argue that the goal of any F.O. shouldn't be to win the W.S, but to make the playoffs, but that's a whole other argument)? Of course not. ALL it does is make Javier more expensive later down the road, and/or retard his development. At best, Chicago wins 2-3 more games this year, and have a slightly worse draft pick. 

"Here's how I see the current crop of young players: Javier Baez looks like a potential superstar. Maybe Kris Bryant will be, too, but it's pretty early to tell. The rest? Maybe a solid regular or two (Albert Almora, a good example), but most of them will be washouts. In the Kane County game I saw two weeks ago, I saw two players I think will become major-league players: Jeimer Candelario and Willson Contreras. Both project as major-league backups. Most of the rest, including Dan Vogelbach, will likely never play a game for the big-league Cubs."

These are the same players you were just complaining weren't called up aggresively enough for your tastes. 

And you're right, in the sense that a small percentage of our prospects are going to work out; that misses the point. Each and every time the Cubs grow a regular player through the draft, or minors, we can afford to spend that much more on free agents. The Cubs aren't the Dodgers or Yankees and their funds aren't limitless; the only way Chicago AFFORDS those big ticket free agents are when they can supplement them with players the minors develop.

"The team has to supplement this, as both Green and MacPhail did, with key signings or trades. And here's where I'll get a little controversial: you can't just wait until 2015 or 2016 to do this, because maybe the guy you need won't be available then. Some Cubs fans thought the Cubs should sign Carlos Beltran in 2005, when he became a free agent. But management didn't do that, because, well, the Cubs were a contender in 2004. Some thought Rafael Furcal should have been signed — and he nearly was — in 2006 (instead, we got stuck with Juan Pierre as a booby prize, Jim Hendry's worst trade). That's when those players came on the market; you can't time the player you want to acquire with some artificial timetable."

*paging Edwin Jackson to the front desk, paging Edwin Jackson to the front desk*

"You know what I think the Cubs should do?

They should go after Robinson Cano. Yes, you heard me. With all the money being stripped off the payroll now (and more after the final payment to Alfonso Soriano is made next year), there should be plenty of room to sign a Cano, even to a megadeal. At 30, he's worth it; he's exactly the age that Soriano was when he signed with the Cubs in 2006. The problem wasn't signing Soriano; the problem was the two extra contract years and the fact that he got hurt, which could not have been predicted. Five or six years for Cano? I think the Cubs could handle that."

I'd like to bet you a very large sum of money that Robinson Cano does not sign a "5 or 6 years" deal. There is just so, so much wrong with this paragraph that it makes me hurt a little bit. There is room to sign Cano to a megadeal, but not because he's worth it (because he will not be worth whatever contract he signs; that's the nature of long-term superdeals); there's room because the Cubs (wisely, and against your presumed wishes) didn't spend foolishly for the last few years, and can afford some deadweight because of it. The rest is just violently wrong; it's pretty EASY to predict that players are likely going to be hurt at some point during a contract that takes a player through his AGE-38 SEASON ARE YOU KIDDING ME. In any case, you are paying for a few years of peak, and more than a few years of decline with any 30 year old. I'm not saying it's a terrible idea, but you are giving terrible reasons. 

"Cano would fill the black hole in the middle of the Cubs' offense, and give the Cubs the possibility of trading Starlin Castro or Darwin Barney, or both, for help elsewhere, presuming Baez might be ready by next year sometime. Buster Olney, though, dismisses the Cubs as a possibility:

The Cubs may not have as much money as casual fans expect, because they have renovation projects to pay for, including their own farm system. Cano would help Chicago improve in 2014 and 2015, but the team really isn't in a position to compete in the next couple of years because of other roster issues.

I'm not sure I buy that, because Cubs starting pitching has been very good this year; with some better bullpen work, maybe they could have been at least a .500 team this year, with the hope of building on that for 2014."

I'm actually glad that you agree with me here, but it makes your article all the more pointless; you yourself concede that the Cubs are moving in the right direction

"And here's another factor. Signing Robinson Cano would do another thing: just as with the Soriano signing in 2006, it would show the fanbase that the Cubs are ready and willing to compete, perhaps a little earlier than some artificial "timetable" that's been set by the front office. If you are going to simply wait for all the "waves and waves" of talent to be placed in the lineup and asked to produce, they're not going to magically lift the team to the postseason in 2015. They could struggle at first. It could be 2017 or 2018 before they're All-Stars."

YOU DO NOT KNOW THE TIMETABLE. Quit pretending like you know the timetable. Theo/Jed and the front office clearly made some moves to get better this year. We had a fringe-fringe chance of being competitive, and when that didn't work out, they got real bad real fast. This is the right way to go, even if it's painful right now for Cubs fan. All a signing "pre-timetable" does is waste a year of that player's talent. The better argument is that you can only sign players when they are available (which, presumably, is why the Cubs were linked to Anibal Sanchez and Miguel Gonzalez, and actually signed Edwin Jackson). Slow your roll on this one, Albert. The Cubs' FO has had 2 offseasons to work on this, and they were very clearly bad both of those years. 

"In my view, putting teams full of DFA guys and waiver-wire pickups and never-were minor-leaguers who have a couple of hot weeks in the major leagues on the field at Wrigley is disrespectful to the paying customer."

Is it more or less disrespectful than wasting time and money chasing the dragon of a WS with ill-timed FA signings?

"To that, you'll likely say, "Just stop buying season tickets, then.""

Yeah, Alcindor! Stop buying season tickets, then!

"Beyond the fact that this is not an option for me, for many reasons that I have explained here on multiple occasions, you aren't saying that just to me."

Wait a minute. This post is already longer than the King James' version of the Bible, and THIS is the one thing you just don't have time to explain?

"You're essentially telling everyone who wants to see a major-league product on the field to stay away until the young players magically become superstars. You've seen, in the cases of Wood and Prior in particular, how difficult this is to actually accomplish. Even Jeff Samardzija opined, after the Matt Garza deal, that maybe the Cubs were dumping too much:

"I definitely don't want to see all my boys traded, that's for sure," he said that day. "That wouldn't be the coolest thing in the world, especially when we feel we're not too far away from being a pretty darn good team."

But before Monday's game against the Diamondbacks, Samardzija said he understood the decision.

"Garza was going to be a free agent," he said. "Obviously if a deal didn't get done (he'd be gone). I think any team in that situation would do the same thing. You have to understand reality. We're (16 games) back, and to trade a guy you don't have protection over anymore kind of makes sense."

This is obviously not what we're saying. If you don't enjoy the Cubs, then don't go to the games. If you enjoy the Cubs, then go to the games. It is that easy. I don't particularly enjoy how shitty the Cubs are right now, but I still like them, and I still went to a game this year (it's harder, being a new dad and 3 hours away as opposed to 1). The fact that you have season tickets, and can afford them, makes you in the minority of Cubs fans, and to speak from your "position of authority" and tell us how we are offending your delicate sensibilities just seems disingenous. 

"I understand both sides of Shark's position here. I hope you do too.

I want the Cubs to build a strong organization. I certainly don't have a problem with drafting well and getting as much talent in the minor leagues as possible, even knowing that some (or even many) of those guys will never make it. If anyone here claims my position denies this, you are simply wrong."

Nah, I'm not denying this (though a good way to appear guilty is to make the statement that you did, in italics). 

"All I am saying is that the "parallel tracks" Theo Epstein once spoke of, can and should be done; it shouldn't be just lip service. I believe you can do both — put together a good organization, and try to win at the big-league level every year. This doesn't mean wasting money on someone like Josh Hamilton — the Angels will be paying for that and the Albert Pujols deal for many, many years. Of course I don't want to do that, and if you think that's what I believe, you're still wrong."

Hold up there, Alvin. First, the Cubs did try that this year. It didn't work, they saw it didn't work, and then they did the best thing for the future of the organization. You also told us, in this very article, that you want the Cubs to sign Robinson Cano. He isn't signing for 5 or 6 years, so by signing him, we are going to be paying him necessarily for "many, many years." You DO wan't to do that, and I'm not wrong. You may not think that's what you want to do, but that IS what you want to do.

"Maybe Robinson Cano isn't the right answer, right now, either, although I submit that he's at least worth thinking about. If you think I'm saying "Go back to the Jim Hendry junk-food highs," you're wrongyet again."

This is probably where your ignorance is brightest. OF COURSE the Cubs' F.O. is thinking about Robinson Cano. That is their job, and they are some of the best people at their jobs in the entire world. They were in on Edwin Jackson, Anibal Sanchez, and most every other big-ticket FA on the market last year. Let me take a page out of the Yellon's Treatise on Bad Faith Arguments and say that if you think the Cubs aren't doing their homework on free agents, you're wrong, yet again.

"There's one further reason the Cubs should make an effort to put a better team on the field in 2014. The WGN-TV deal, as you know, is up at the end of the year and the team has already stated publicly that it will likely be up for open bids. I've written before on how it would benefit both the team and WGN-TV to re-up. Obviously, the Cubs will want more than the (approximately) $400,000 per game they are getting from this deal.

If you have a mediocre team on the field, who's going to pay a bigger rights fee? The Dodgers got their huge local TV deal because they let it be known they were going to be a major force going forward. So did the Rangers when they got theirs.

With another 90-plus loss season in the books this year, ratings are bottoming. Ad rates are going to be down next year as a result. Unless there's a clear sign of movement upward in the future, who's going to pay what the Cubs want for this portion of the TV contract?"

There is no way on earth that whoever is vying for Cubs' rights are going to look at just one year of data to determine the worth of the contract. The Cubs are a very desirable commodity and they will be paid like one. Thank goodness you aren't involved in the conversations:

Al: "I say we offer the Ricketts $50 a year for the next 20 years. They DID lose yesterday."

"We can have both. We should have both. Dallas Green would have done both. Don't consign this team to several more 90-plus loss years, because no one knows when these young players are going to produce winning seasons. Give us some hope at Wrigley Field. Yes, in 2014. Because … how much longer do they think I can wait?"

You are not the sun. The Cubs' plans do not revolve around you. 

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  1. gaius marius

    the best part about Al Yellon is that no one in the Cubs organization gives a single solitary fuck about him.

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  2. josh

    @ dmick89:
    It took me a little while to get it to. I wasn’t sure if it was you or Al telling me to strap in.

    That said, it was pretty funny. You are trying to make sense out of the senseless, however. He’s mad because they aren’t winning. That’s basically his point.

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  3. Omar Little

    What is Alvin’s suggestion for the team?

    He said he doesn’t want to sign Josh Hamiltons (presumably because Hamilton isn’t performing up to his contract so far?), but does want to sign Robinson Cano?

    What is his point?

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  4. Suburban kid

    Slow your roll on this one, Albert.

    Hang on here, I didn’t make my greatest contribution to the Cubs blogosphere by discovering his full name for nothing.

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  5. Berselius

    You Are Not The Sun
    By Myles on August 27, 2013. Posted in Commentary And Analysis, Unobstructed Views 5 Comments
    Al has done it again. As most of you have seen by now, Yellon Fever has posted an open letter to Cubs fans. It’s bad, it’s sad, and it’s more than a little embarassing.

    There’s going to be an apology coming up, but first I want to tell you a couple of stories. Please note! This post is going to be quite long. Pull up a chair, if you aren’t in one, and settle in for a while. (And please. Please, please. Be respectful and kind in your comments.)

    I hope the apology is for how self-important you think you are. When I write, I try to be pretty careful blending what I hope is objective information about the Cubs and my own biases. People (I’d imagine) don’t come to Obstructed View to hear about me…they want to hear about the Cubs. If I speak through my own filter, hopefully I can add something to that discussion and readers can come away feeling like they spent their time wisely – and if every once in awhile, I indulge myself by sharing something more intimate, it comes away that much more impactful. This is a perfect example – I’m not afraid to say I teared up reading this. I tear up when reading your shit too, Al, but for a different reason.

    Also, I imagine that 99.5% of your readership is in a chair when reading your slurry.

    Some of you might know who Carmella Hartigan was. If you don’t… here’s her story.

    Carmella was an everyday regular in the left-center field bleachers for decades — this was before the bleacher reconstruction; you could find her sitting in the last row wearing her pink Cubs cap for nearly every game. She was born Carmella Tamburino in a small village in Italy, February 14, 1902, and arrived in the United States in 1916. Eventually, she became a Cubs fan and started coming to the bleachers regularly in 1965, after her husband died. She lived on the North Side near Horner Park; until she was well into her 90s she rode two buses to Wrigley Field and back every day. In her later years, disappointed with the Cubs’ failures as all the rest of us have been, her mantra on hoping they’d eventually win it all was: “How long do they think I can wait?”

    Mike Bojanowski told me that, upon saying his usual season-end farewell to her in September 2002, Carmella told him she didn’t expect to return, saying, “If it’s your fortune to live as long as I have, you’ll understand.”

    She was right. Carmella died December 21, 2002, aged 100 years, 10 months. I attended her wake at a North Side funeral home, where her family was astounded at the number of her bleacher friends who showed up. We did so because, in that sense, she was family. She’s buried with that pink Cubs cap.

    Even though Carmella was alive when the Cubs won their last World Series, as a small girl in Italy, she likely knew nothing of them at the time, so she never saw her favorite team win it all, despite living more than a century.

    Ok. I can live with this story. It’s pretty sweet, and it’s a nice little tug at the heartstrings. Statistically, most Cubs fans have died without seeing their team win a World Series (but that’s not even unique to the Cubs – ask an Astros fan about the last time they won it all.)

    Here’s another story, told by Sun-Times sportswriter Rick Telander. Now, I’m pretty sure Telander isn’t one of your favorites; neither is he one of mine, as I wrote this post only a few weeks ago blasting him on a topic unrelated to this. But two years ago, Telander wrote this, with which I identify very, very strongly:

    I was asked by a radio host the other day whether I stood by my long-repeated statement that the Cubs won’t win a World Series in my lifetime. I immediately said yes.

    I said it was all actuarial. I’m 62, and I first thought the Cubs were going to win it all 42 years ago, in 1969, when I was a college sophomore and before Santo, Banks, Williams and pals expired in the August heat. But say I’ve got two good decades ahead of me, maybe even three. In fact, let’s say I’m an outlier and make it to 102. Forty more years.

    That’s nothing! That’s less than 40 percent of the time the Cubs already have gone without winning a championship.
    (Note that you can now add two more years to what Telander said, since that column was posted July 30, 2011.)

    Umm… that’s not how “actuarial” works, Al/Rick. First off, correlation does not prove causation. What happened in 1924 doesn’t have any noticeable effect on 1986, or 2014, or any other year when none of those players/management were on the team.

    Let’s think of it this way. Each team has a roughly equal shot at winning the WS. There are 30 teams, so the probability you DON’T win the WS is, say, 29/30. The probability that you don’t win the WS in the next n years is (29/30)^n. When does is become more likely than not that the Cubs will have won a WS? 21 years. After 40 years, it’s roughly a 1/4 chance (25.8% against). This only holds, of course, if you believe the Cubs are positioned to be just an average franchise in the future (and we can’t look back, because past trials hold no bearing on future ones); I’d argue that’s pretty obviously false, as the Cubs play in the 4th biggest media market, and have a better than average payroll as a result, and have better than average management, etc.

    And that’s where I stand, and now let me explain why I feel the way I do. This week, I become the parent of two college students.

    Congrats! I’m glad they’ve escaped.

    That’s a milestone in anyone’s life, and at nearly 57, I have begun to contemplate my own mortality. I’ve done pretty well in the genetic lottery; my maternal grandmother lived to be 100, and my dad is still around and will be 92 later this year (and he reads this site, so be nice). Another personal milestone: there is now someone who is in the major leagues who is younger than one of my kids (Jurickson Profar, born in 1993).

    If I live as long as my dad has, that’d be 35 more years, which is a good long time. That makes me think back to 35 years ago — 1978. That’s the year I graduated from college. The time since then has gone by in the blink of an eye. In considering that, think about this: the Cubs’ drought for not even getting to the World Series was 33 years in 1978. That drought – not even the World Series-winning drought, just the drought of even getting there – is now more than twice that length.

    This is a stat of which we are all aware. Totally sucks. Remind me again how the failures or the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 00s have an effect on our chances going forward?

    Time goes by so fast. Years pile upon years with a blur. You’ll please forgive me, then, if I at times seem a little impatient with everything that’s going on with the current state of our favorite team.

    I will not, and you can’t make me.

    Patience thins, and here’s where I apologize. Simply living longer and having experienced more Cubs failures doesn’t make me better or make my opinion more important than anyone else’s. We’ve all suffered disappointments and soul-crushing defeats. It does give me a longer perspective than many of you; that’s all I was trying to say. Some who are my age or older are willing to be more patient; that’s cool. Some aren’t. I’m having a hard time with it right now, partly because of changes in my own life. I apologize for being over-the-top with this following Friday’s loss, and I hope you will forgive me for letting it get to me. But there are times I do begin to wonder if I will die without ever seeing the Cubs win the World Series. Seriously, and that’s a sobering thought. Carmella Hartigan lived a century and never saw it. Quite a number of friends, met in the bleachers, some younger than me, died without ever seeing it.

    On a level, I sympathize with you. You’d think, though, that with your many years of sitting in the worst seats at Wrigley and watching Mel Rojas blow another save, you’d gain a little more perspective, especially concerning a loss by a club that has no playoff aspirations whatsoever. The loss more-or-less helps the club, and if you’ve been to games for the last 40 or so years, you’ve probably seen around 1800 losses in person anyway.

    I love the Cubs more than I probably should. I spend most of my day at work (and part of my day at home) refreshing this site, and Brett’s. It would bum me out pretty hard if the Cubs never won the World Series in my lifetime…but it wouldn’t be close to the top of bad things that would happen to me, over the course of my life. The Cubs are entertainment; they don’t give my life it’s meaning.

    Now, on to the analysis part of this epic. Many of you have said, in connection with what current Cubs front-office management is doing, “This kind of thing hasn’t been done in the entire century of failure.” I respectfully submit that statement is incorrect. A build like this has been tried before, and more than once.

    Dallas Green began doing it when he took over — and the Cubs organization was in much worse shape in late 1981 than it was in late 2011. The cupboard was empty; there was almost no talent on the major-league team (save Bill Buckner) and almost nothing in the system, except for the recently-promoted Lee Smith, two guys who were selected in the last years of the Wrigley regime (Mel Hall and Joe Carter) and Jody Davis, probably the best Rule 5 pick the Cubs have ever made.

    Green’s drafts produced quite a number of quality major-league players: Mark Grace, Greg Maddux, Shawon Dunston, Rafael Palmeiro, Joe Girardi and Jamie Moyer, and some others of lesser talent. Green, unfortunately, wasn’t allowed to complete his mission. It was one of Tribune Company’s biggest mistakes to let Green go. But you can’t say this exact thing — building a strong organization — wasn’t tried. Green supplemented it with key free agents (Ron Cey, for example) and trades, bringing over several major-league players from his old team, the Phillies, and of course, making the deal that got Ryne Sandberg to the North Side. Green got upset when the Cubs lost 13 in a row in spring training in 1984 and pulled the trigger on the deal that got Gary Matthews and Bob Dernier to the Cubs just before Opening Day. The Cubs don’t win the National League East in 1984 without that trade.

    Do you realize the irony in what you just posted? I don’t think you do. You are saying that building a strong organization has been tried before, and that it was a mistake to fire Green, especially after his crafty trades and signings led directly to the Cubs biggest success in the past 40 years. Man, it sure would be irresponsible to judge this organization that quickly, especially because in your scenario, it took 3 whole years to go from worst-to-first!

    I’d like to see Theo Epstein get that upset with losing.

    What. The. Fuck? This is an unnecessary potshot at a guy who, for all we know, is very upset with losing. What makes you think that Theo Epstein isn’t upset with losing? Does he get bonuses for finish with 100 losses? No. He realizes the value of thinking with your head instead of your heart, and he’s had LESS time to work than Dallas did before he fielded a team capable of winning the division.

    It was tried again when Andy MacPhail was hired away from the Twins. You can bash MacPhail all you want, and yes, many of his methods failed, as did those of his successor, Jim Hendry.

    Now THIS is how you set up a point for success!

    But the Cubs under MacPhail produced Kerry Wood, Mark Prior and Carlos Zambrano. Had those three pitchers remained healthy (both mentally and physically), they could have been the core of a playoff-caliber starting rotation for more than a decade. The draft under MacPhail also produced Jon Garland, Ricky Nolasco and Dontrelle Willis, sent away in ill-advised trades (though the Willis trade did bring back three decent years of Matt Clement), as well as Scott Downs, a serviceable big-league reliever for more than a decade.

    When “serviceable reliever” is in your list of successes under the Andy MacPhail era, it’s not that successful an era.

    The MacPhail years didn’t produce any significant position players other than Ryan Theriot and Geovany Soto; neither had the long-term impact you’d like to see from the draft. Its later years and the Jim Hendry years produced poor first-round picks: Bobby Brownlie, Ryan Harvey, Grant Johnson and Mark Pawelek. (Ugh. That’s four straight years of failed No. 1 picks from 2002-2005.)

    I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make here. A poor GM made poor draft choices? Cool!

    So you can’t say an organizational build hasn’t been tried. It has. Both of those general managers presided over eras that did produce quite a number of good major-league players. The organization, for reasons we now know all too well, never had the depth it needed, and it’s not my point to recount those failures here.

    What is your point? We are like a thousand words into this article, and over half of the readers have either left BCB or fallen asleep at their monitors. All you’ve told us is that build a strong organization was tried once or twice before, and that it was working until people gave up on it too early (curse those media types like Al Yellon, who always quit too soon) or when they had bad drafts (which, ok, lets wait and see because this regime has had 2 drafts so far)

    The current regime has invested a tremendous amount of money in young players, both through the draft and international signings, and has opened an academy in the Dominican Republic that we all hope will bring success in the future. These are, without question, good things, though you’ll forgive me if I don’t share all the excitement that was posted here and elsewhere about the millions spent this July on 16-year-old kids, who, ifeverything goes right, might be at Wrigley Field in 2019 or 2020. It’s the same reason I don’t really care if someone’s “arb clock” is started one year early so the Cubs could, presumably, save a few million dollars eight years from now. That could be eight more years without winning a damn thing.

    So we agree that spending money on good, young players is a good thing, right? We’re on the same page here? You’re definitely overreaching on the arb clock thing, by the way. What player, or combination of players, would have helped the Cubs win the World Series any earlier if we had just said “arb clocks be damned!”

    Money is a finite resource, and I’d argue it’s a GOOD thing that our FO is not spending it frivolously. Does starting Javier Baez’s arb clock a year early do us any good in ANY of the next 6 years, if winning the WS is the only goal (and I’d argue that the goal of any F.O. shouldn’t be to win the W.S, but to make the playoffs, but that’s a whole other argument)? Of course not. ALL it does is make Javier more expensive later down the road, and/or retard his development. At best, Chicago wins 2-3 more games this year, and have a slightly worse draft pick.

    Here’s how I see the current crop of young players: Javier Baez looks like a potential superstar. Maybe Kris Bryant will be, too, but it’s pretty early to tell. The rest? Maybe a solid regular or two (Albert Almora, a good example), but most of them will be washouts. In the Kane County game I saw two weeks ago, I saw two players I think will become major-league players: Jeimer Candelario and Willson Contreras. Both project as major-league backups. Most of the rest, including Dan Vogelbach, will likely never play a game for the big-league Cubs.

    These are the same players you were just complaining weren’t called up aggresively enough for your tastes.

    And you’re right, in the sense that a small percentage of our prospects are going to work out; that misses the point. Each and every time the Cubs grow a regular player through the draft, or minors, we can afford to spend that much more on free agents. The Cubs aren’t the Dodgers or Yankees and their funds aren’t limitless; the only way Chicago AFFORDS those big ticket free agents are when they can supplement them with players the minors develop.

    The team has to supplement this, as both Green and MacPhail did, with key signings or trades. And here’s where I’ll get a little controversial: you can’t just wait until 2015 or 2016 to do this, because maybe the guy you need won’t be available then. Some Cubs fans thought the Cubs should sign Carlos Beltran in 2005, when he became a free agent. But management didn’t do that, because, well, the Cubs were a contender in 2004. Some thought Rafael Furcal should have been signed — and he nearly was — in 2006 (instead, we got stuck with Juan Pierre as a booby prize, Jim Hendry’s worst trade). That’s when those players came on the market; you can’t time the player you want to acquire with some artificial timetable.

    *paging Edwin Jackson to the front desk, paging Edwin Jackson to the front desk*

    You know what I think the Cubs should do?

    They should go after Robinson Cano. Yes, you heard me. With all the money being stripped off the payroll now (and more after the final payment to Alfonso Soriano is made next year), there should be plenty of room to sign a Cano, even to a megadeal. At 30, he’s worth it; he’s exactly the age that Soriano was when he signed with the Cubs in 2006. The problem wasn’t signing Soriano; the problem was the two extra contract years and the fact that he got hurt, which could not have been predicted. Five or six years for Cano? I think the Cubs could handle that.

    I’d like to bet you a very large sum of money that Robinson Cano does not sign a “5 or 6 years” deal. There is just so, so much wrong with this paragraph that it makes me hurt a little bit. There is room to sign Cano to a megadeal, but not because he’s worth it (because he will not be worth whatever contract he signs; that’s the nature of long-term superdeals); there’s room because the Cubs (wisely, and against your presumed wishes) didn’t spend foolishly for the last few years, and can afford some deadweight because of it. The rest is just violently wrong; it’s pretty EASY to predict that players are likely going to be hurt at some point during a contract that takes a player through his AGE-38 SEASON ARE YOU KIDDING ME. In any case, you are paying for a few years of peak, and more than a few years of decline with any 30 year old. I’m not saying it’s a terrible idea, but you are giving terrible reasons.

    Cano would fill the black hole in the middle of the Cubs’ offense, and give the Cubs the possibility of trading Starlin Castro or Darwin Barney, or both, for help elsewhere, presuming Baez might be ready by next year sometime. Buster Olney, though, dismisses the Cubs as a possibility:

    The Cubs may not have as much money as casual fans expect, because they have renovation projects to pay for, including their own farm system. Cano would help Chicago improve in 2014 and 2015, but the team really isn’t in a position to compete in the next couple of years because of other roster issues.
    I’m not sure I buy that, because Cubs starting pitching has been very good this year; with some better bullpen work, maybe they could have been at least a .500 team this year, with the hope of building on that for 2014.

    I’m actually glad that you agree with me here, but it makes your article all the more pointless; you yourself concede that the Cubs are moving in the right direction.

    And here’s another factor. Signing Robinson Cano would do another thing: just as with the Soriano signing in 2006, it would show the fanbase that the Cubs are ready and willing to compete, perhaps a little earlier than some artificial “timetable” that’s been set by the front office. If you are going to simply wait for all the “waves and waves” of talent to be placed in the lineup and asked to produce, they’re not going to magically lift the team to the postseason in 2015. They could struggle at first. It could be 2017 or 2018 before they’reAll-Stars.

    YOU DO NOT KNOW THE TIMETABLE. Quit pretending like you know the timetable. Theo/Jed and the front office clearly made some moves to get better this year. We had a fringe-fringe chance of being competitive, and when that didn’t work out, they got real bad real fast. This is the right way to go, even if it’s painful right now for Cubs fan. All a signing “pre-timetable” does is waste a year of that player’s talent. The better argument is that you can only sign players when they are available (which, presumably, is why the Cubs were linked to Anibal Sanchez and Miguel Gonzalez, and actually signed Edwin Jackson). Slow your roll on this one, Albert. The Cubs’ FO has had 2 offseasons to work on this, and they were very clearly bad both of those years.

    In my view, putting teams full of DFA guys and waiver-wire pickups and never-were minor-leaguers who have a couple of hot weeks in the major leagues on the field at Wrigley is disrespectful to the paying customer.

    Is it more or less disrespectful than wasting time and money chasing the dragon of a WS with ill-timed FA signings?

    To that, you’ll likely say, “Just stop buying season tickets, then.”

    Yeah, Al! Stop buying season tickets, then!

    Beyond the fact that this is not an option for me, for many reasons that I have explained here on multiple occasions, you aren’t saying that just to me.

    Wait a minute. This post is already longer than the King James’ version of the Bible, and THIS is the one thing you just don’t have time to explain?

    You’re essentially telling everyone who wants to see a major-league product on the field to stay away until the young players magically become superstars. You’ve seen, in the cases of Wood and Prior in particular, how difficult this is to actually accomplish. Even Jeff Samardzija opined, after the Matt Garza deal, that maybe the Cubs were dumping too much:

    “I definitely don’t want to see all my boys traded, that’s for sure,” he said that day. “That wouldn’t be the coolest thing in the world, especially when we feel we’re not too far away from being a pretty darn good team.”

    But before Monday’s game against the Diamondbacks, Samardzija said he understood the decision.

    “Garza was going to be a free agent,” he said. “Obviously if a deal didn’t get done (he’d be gone). I think any team in that situation would do the same thing. You have to understand reality. We’re (16 games) back, and to trade a guy you don’t have protection over anymore kind of makes sense.
    This is obviously not what we’re saying. If you don’t enjoy the Cubs, then don’t go to the games. If you enjoy the Cubs, then go to the games. It is that easy. I don’t particularly enjoy how shitty the Cubs are right now, but I still like them, and I still went to a game this year (it’s harder, being a new dad and 3 hours away as opposed to 1). The fact that you have season tickets, and can afford them, makes you in the minority of Cubs fans, and to speak from your “position of authority” and tell us how we are offending your delicate sensibilities just seems disingenous.

    I understand both sides of Shark’s position here. I hope you do too.

    I want the Cubs to build a strong organization. I certainly don’t have a problem with drafting well and getting as much talent in the minor leagues as possible, even knowing that some (or even many) of those guys will never make it. If anyone here claims my position denies this, you are simply wrong.

    Nah, I’m not denying this (though a good way to appear guilty is to make the statement that you did, in italics).

    All I am saying is that the “parallel tracks” Theo Epstein once spoke of, can and should be done; it shouldn’t be just lip service. I believe you can do both — put together a good organization, and try to win at the big-league level every year. This doesn’t mean wasting money on someone like Josh Hamilton – the Angels will be paying for that and the Albert Pujols deal for many, many years. Of course I don’t want to do that, and if you think that’s what I believe, you’re still wrong.

    Hold up there, Alvin. First, the Cubs did try that this year. It didn’t work, they saw it didn’t work, and then they did the best thing for the future of the organization. You also told us, in this very article, that you want the Cubs to sign Robinson Cano. He isn’t signing for 5 or 6 years, so by signing him, we are going to be paying him necessarily for “many, many years.” You DO wan’t to do that, and I’m not wrong. You may not think that’s what you want to do, but that IS what you want to do.

    Maybe Robinson Cano isn’t the right answer, right now, either, although I submit that he’s at least worth thinking about. If you think I’m saying “Go back to the Jim Hendry junk-food highs,” you’re wrong, yet again.

    This is probably where your ignorance is brightest. OF COURSE the Cubs’ F.O. is thinking about Robinson Cano. That is their job, and they are some of the best people at their jobs in the entire world. They were in on Edwin Jackson, Anibal Sanchez, and most every other big-ticket FA on the market last year. Let me take a page out of the Yellon’s Treatise on Bad Faith Arguments and say that if you think the Cubs aren’t doing their homework on free agents, you’re wrong, yet again.

    There’s one further reason the Cubs should make an effort to put a better team on the field in 2014. The WGN-TV deal, as you know, is up at the end of the year and the team has already stated publicly that it will likely be up for open bids. I’ve written before on how it would benefit both the team and WGN-TV to re-up. Obviously, the Cubs will want more than the (approximately) $400,000 per game they are getting from this deal.

    If you have a mediocre team on the field, who’s going to pay a bigger rights fee? The Dodgers got their huge local TV deal because they let it be known they were going to be a major force going forward. So did the Rangers when they got theirs.

    With another 90-plus loss season in the books this year, ratings are bottoming. Ad rates are going to be down next year as a result. Unless there’s a clear sign of movement upward in the future, who’s going to pay what the Cubs want for this portion of the TV contract?

    There is no way on earth that whoever is vying for Cubs’ rights are going to look at just one year of data to determine the worth of the contract. The Cubs are a very desirable commodity and they will be paid like one. Thank goodness you aren’t involved in the conversations:

    Al: “I say we offer the Ricketts $50 a year for the next 20 years. They DID lose yesterday.”

    We can have both. We should have both. Dallas Green would have done both. Don’t consign this team to several more 90-plus loss years, because no one knows when these young players are going to produce winning seasons. Give us some hope at Wrigley Field. Yes, in 2014. Because … how much longer do they think I can wait?

    You are not the sun. The Cubs’ plans do not revolve around you.

    False.

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  6. Omar Little

    Alvin: There’s going to be an apology coming up, but first I want to tell you a couple of stories.

    tl;dr

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  7. Omar Little

    I think it would be awesome if every BCBitch posted a differen’t “Didn’t Read” image after that letter. No comments, just images.

    [img]http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/Minimanolo/iwkoqt.gif[/img]

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  8. Mucker

    Al is a fucking loser. He must have sat there for hours writing that puke. I wish I still had an account at BCB so I could ask him this question:

    “Al, how exactly will your life change if the Cubs do win a World Series before you die? Shouldn’t you be more worried about being happy you have two kids in college that will graduate, get jobs, start families and give you grandbabies…………you fucking ignorant twat?”

    Too strong?

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  9. Omar Little

    Omar Little wrote:

    I think it would be awesome if every BCBitch posted a differen’t “Didn’t Read” image after that letter.

    Apparently I was going for something like this:

    [img]http://www.retroland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/diffrent_strokes_650x300_a0.jpg[/img]

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  10. josh

    @ Omar Little:
    Sign superstar players to short contracts (they love that) and then trade them when they are literally days from turning into mere mortals for the next Ryne Sandberg. It’s either HOF players in every trade or failure. Also, keep building a minor league system because whatever.

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  11. Rice Cube

    I was able to figure from the text sizes and fonts which were Myles’ words and which were Al’s, and therefore was able to skip everything Al said and just laugh at Myles’ reaction 😀

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  12. dmick89

    @ Rice Cube:
    Yeah, that’s what I did and I enjoyed it. I couldn’t read Al’s stuff to save my life, but it was difficult to figure out early on who was writing what. Different fonts, font sizes, etc. Once I figured it out, I did the same thing you did.

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  13. Aisle424

    What still cracks me up about Al is his failure to understand that his (and many, many other season ticket holders) unwillingness to tell the Cubs to go fuck themselves is EXACTLY THE REASON THEY ARE TAKING THIS APPROACH. I, at least, admitted as much about myself in 2009: http://424tales.blogspot.com/2009/12/i-have-seen-problem-and-problem-is-us.html

    But there is Al, not only renewing his tickets every year, but declaring on a blog read by thousands of people, that he has no intention at all of dropping them. He’s not even considering it. After everything he feels is wrong with how the Cubs do things (rightly or wrongly, it’s how he feels), he WILL. NOT. STOP. BUYING. HIS. TICKETS.

    It is absolutely insane. At this point, I have to believe he actually has some sort of chemical imbalance, because you have to believe that even the dimmest person would have figured out his behavior is completely irrational.

    I’m not even saying there is anything wrong with it, but fucking OWN IT, AL! You are the one enabling the behavior of the front office by handing it money unconditionally no matter what they do! How does anyone not see that? It’s baffling and frustrating because he is incapable of having a rational conversation about it. he needs to be put behind glass and studied by scientists.

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  14. SVB

    I’m just going to repeat my comment from the last Al critique here:

    If, at the end of my life, my biggest regret is that I didn’t see the Cubs win the World Series, I’ll consider it a life well-lived.

    I guess I’d have to post that comment about 3x a week on BCB.

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  15. Suburban kid

    @ Aisle424:
    I think there’s a volatile mixture of OCD, narcissism, and co-dependency going on here. He can’t stop going to every single game until they win. He just can’t. I mean, what if he decided to skip the next homestand but they end up clinching the fourth wild card that week? The Cubs owe him a WS. Can’t they see how much he’s given them? Can’t they see how dedicated he has been for 57 years? There’s no way the Cubs are winning the WS without him situated in his bleacher seat. No Way. But he’s only got 20 or 30 years left? Fucking hell Cubs! This is not OK! You can’t do this to Al! Al love Cubbies! Al protects Wrigley from the Wave! Al keeps scorecards! 162 of them every year! And a record of every hat worn to each game, so he can remember every one of the 47,000 games he’s been to, even if 32,000 of them were blow out losses!

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    I hope the apology is for how self-important you think you are. When I write, I try to be pretty careful blending what I hope is objective information about the Cubs and my own biases. People (I’d imagine) don’t come to Obstructed View to hear about me…they want to hear about the Cubs

    The thing is that Alvin has always had a mandate to make it about himself, at least in his mind he does. He was picked up by SBN after writing a very personal Cubs blog – so personal he didn’t even allow comments. And with his personality, you can imagine how interesting it was. There actually was something in there every day about his trip to 7-11 to get his pre-game Big Gulp and stuff about his sandwiches, and whether a seagull crapped on his bench or the traffic made him late.

    I’m sure he told SBN he was going to continue to write from his “unique personal POV” as a Cub fan, and they were probably like, yeah whatever. So even now, years later, BCB is still primarily about him.

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    Myles

    I put in quotes so it’s easier to read. I thought it was easy, but I can see especially with the mistake on the first paragraph on how you could get confused.

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  18. SVB

    I hope the apology is for how self-important you think you are. When I write, I try to be pretty careful blending what I hope is objective information about the Cubs and my own biases. People (I’d imagine) don’t come to Obstructed View to hear about me…they want to hear about the Cubs

    I was kind of hoping for more about the personal lives of Myles and SitRick. Who the hell are you anyway? Where’s the link to babycam at Myles’s house?

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  19. josh

    @ SVB:
    What colors are your eyes. When you dream at night, what sort of rhythm does your blood pressure go into? What color are your toenails – asking for a friend?

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  20. josh

    @ Aisle424:
    Yeah, you could argue that the Cubs FO duped people with hype in certain eras, but fool me once etc. At some point it’s on you to stop buying a product or service if you know you’re being duped.

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  21. SVB

    I know that Batting Avg isn’t a preferred stat around here, but I just wanted to point out that the second highest BA in tonight’s Cubs line up belongs to Dionner Navarro. Yeah, him. And three of the batters aren’t over .195. It’s the who-the-hell-are-these-guys? line-up tonight.

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  22. SVB

    So you know I’m transitioning back to the States and I’m catching up with pop culture. Not sure that I’ll actually subscribe to cable TV, but tonight I’m in a hotel and here’s what I’ve learned:

    Alan Thicke had a son who apparently “sings”
    Sometime in the last 8 years, Jay Leno got cosmetic surgery and now looks like Teddy Kennedy (when Teddy was alive…)

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  23. josh

    @ SVB:
    Honestly, you didn’t miss anything. I have basic cable only because it’s cheaper to have that plus internet than internet alone. I buy Breaking Bad eps and watch stuff online. TV as a medium just annoys me.

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  24. J

    Somehow that lineup mostly worked a lot of counts and knocked out Kershaw before 6. Could it be because hitters were so overmatched that when they made crappy contact, it went in foul territory, inadvertently wearing down Kershaw?

    I have to say, that as devastating as his breaking pitches are, the fastball looked pretty average and hittable. A fair amount of hard line drive contact in this game.

    I loved how Len and JD had to laud Castro for turning on a fastball for an RBI single. A 92 MPH fastball. Off a pitcher who’s thrown over 100 pitches. A line drive in the hole. Something that replacement level MLB players should be expected to do with some regularity. It’s improvement, sure, and a nice change in approach, but it really shows how far Castro has fallen in expectations.

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  25. josh

    @ J:

    Somehow that lineup mostly worked a lot of counts and knocked out Kershaw before 6. Could it be because hitters were so overmatched that when they made crappy contact, it went in foul territory, inadvertently wearing down Kershaw?

    Or maybe Kershaw was just having an off night.

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  26. sitrick

    josh wrote:

    @ J:
    Somehow that lineup mostly worked a lot of counts and knocked out Kershaw before 6. Could it be because hitters were so overmatched that when they made crappy contact, it went in foul territory, inadvertently wearing down Kershaw?
    Or maybe Kershaw was just having an off night.

    KOUFAX NEVER HAD AN OFF NIGHT. NOT AN ACE.

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    Myles

    Lukas wrote:

    Great post, I miss the old days of ripping Alvin and starting blog wars (dying laughing)

    I cut my hand slicing a bagel this morning and almost went to the hospital. I’m not sure the events are unrelated.

    I’m crazy busy today so no JOT until after hours unless someone else wants to take it.

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  28. josh

    @ Myles:
    I’m not sure if you’re actually working on a draft or just started one then got busy. I wrote a minor league themed comic either way if someone wants to use it for the JOT. Otherwise, I’ll post it alone.

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  29. Berselius

    @ Myles:

    I’m paranoid about bagel slicing procedure after a friend of mine cut through whatever that area is called between the thumb and index finger. He barely avoided serious nerve damage.

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  30. Berselius

    @ josh:

    Yeah, I know. Tim didn’t though (laughing). He’s notoriously injury prone, both to himself and others. He’s accidentally broken bones of three of his friends, and managed to get a huge cut on his face on the morning of his wedding while helping us unload for the band. His wife was not pleased.

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  31. aaronb

    @ josh:
    josh wrote:

    @ Berselius:
    I went face-first into a branch while running to catch a bus to a Cubs game. Missed my eye by about an inch.
    CUBSSS!!

    I gotta agree with this. However even the blogs get hard to be around because of how militant people are about this new “plan”.

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  32. josh

    @ Myles:
    Why are you calling me Ryno?

    Do you know something I don’t know? Does it have to do with that brain controlling technology everyone’s been talking about? You’d tell me if it did, right?

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  33. EnricoPallazzo

    i wonder how many bagels i will ruin trying to do that trick. i’m aslo wondering how many bagels i will ruin at other people’s houses while they’re not paying attention after i learn how to do it.

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  34. Suburban kid

    Are we talking injuries here? I was playing first base and got too much of my slim, sculpted backside over the bag during a play. Huge collision with baserunner, knee-to-assbone. It’s been several weeks and I still can’t sit comfortably.

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  35. lurker

    Idea for blog post: How was Dallas Green’s job different from Theo and Jed’s? I know that it was and think Al is an idiot. But, as someone who did not live through the early 80s Cubs, it would just be nice to see a rational explanation of why the Al Yellon’s of the world need to stop bringing up Dallas Green.

    To me, the two key differences seem to be that 1) The 1980s Cubs did not have albatross contracts and debt weighing down the baseball operations and 2) The Cubs actually had assets to trade in 1983 and 1984 to built that team.

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