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  1. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Dare I ask what this is for? OVBlog now works for the Census? (dying laughing)[/quote]And Counting is going to make is super rich with this information.

    I did this once on ACB and it was interesting and we would like to contact some advertisers so this information will be quite useful to us.

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  2. Rice Cube

    Latest Muskat update:

    Hayden Simpson gave up three runs on four hits over two innings in Mesa’s 12-5 loss to the Giants.

    There’s got to be some redeeming value out of this kid, right?

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  3. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]And Counting is going to make is super rich with this information.

    I did this once on ACB and it was interesting and we would like to contact some advertisers so this information will be quite useful to us.[/quote]
    Cool, hope you get rich.

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  4. WaLi

    If you were were stuck on an island with one person from Obstructed View, who would it be?

    (dying laughing)

    Also, I am moving to the east coast next month (and originally from there) but currently live in midwest. Which should I put?

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  5. jtsunami

    [quote name=WaLi]If you were were stuck on an island with one person from Obstructed View, who would it be?

    (dying laughing)

    Also, I am moving to the east coast next month (and originally from there) but currently live in midwest. Which should I put?[/quote]BCB

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  6. Rice Cube

    [quote name=WaLi]If you were were stuck on an island with one person from Obstructed View, who would it be?

    (dying laughing)

    Also, I am moving to the east coast next month (and originally from there) but currently live in midwest. Which should I put?[/quote]

    Guam.

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  7. WaLi

    (dying laughing) who is from Guam?

    Alaska, Hawaii, or some other fancy-pants part of America nobody gives a shit about like Guam. Seriously, if you live in Guam, go to BCB and never come back.

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  8. Mish

    I get different answers from different peoples, so before I respond – do you guys consider Indians (dot, not feather) to be Asian or Other?

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  9. Mish

    Joe Poz has a piece up going through which 2 players on each team come up most often with runners on base.

    Chicago Cubs
    Top 2 DOP: Starlin Castro and Aramis Ramirez.
    Comment: I have to admit that I don’t quite get why so many people are jumping the gun and preparing Starlin Castro for the Hall of Fame. I mean, he certainly could develop into an amazing player. He’s only 21. And he smokes line drives. No question. But everybody knows that he CAN develop into an amazing player. My question is: Will he? I’m not sure. Right now: He doesn’t walk. He doesn’t hit home runs. He’s not especially fast. And there are questions about him as a defensive shortstop. He’s so young and he hits with such line-drive authority that the smart money might be on him developing big-time power and becoming a superstar. That absolutely can happen, and I am not saying it won’t happen. But the other day I heard announcers comparing him to Ernie Banks. Can we hold off for at least a few minutes?

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  10. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mish]Joe Poz has a piece up going through which 2 players on each team come up most often with runners on base.[/quote]
    I just read the same piece. I like this part:

    You know what the ideal conventional-wisdom lineup looks like.

    Leadoff hitter: Fast
    Second: Can handle bat
    Third: Best overall hitter on team
    Cleanup: RBI man
    Fifth: Can hit home runs and not much else.
    Sixth: Can hit a few home runs.
    Seventh: Scrappy hitter*
    Eighth: Gritty hitter*
    Ninth: Pitcher in NL (except in St. Louis)/Second leadoff hitter in AL.

    *”Scrappy” and “gritty” being euphemisms for “lousy.”

    (dying laughing)

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  11. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mish]I get different answers from different peoples, so before I respond – do you guys consider Indians (dot, not feather) to be Asian or Other?[/quote]
    Indians, Asians and Mexican are all the same race. Dirty, smell bad, serve rice with meals.

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  12. mb21

    [quote name=GBTS]Hispanic ain’t a race.[/quote]Yeah, but i didn’t feel like doing an ethnicity question, too.

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  13. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]Indians, Asians and Mexican are all the same race. Dirty, smell bad, serve rice with meals.[/quote]
    I smell great.

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  14. mb21

    [quote name=Mish]I get different answers from different peoples, so before I respond – do you guys consider Indians (dot, not feather) to be Asian or Other?[/quote]What do you consider yourself? I thought about you when I was writing these questions and didn’t know myself.

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  15. GBTS

    [quote name=mb21]I thought about you when I was writing these questions[/quote]That explains the desert island fantasy.

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  16. Mish

    [quote name=mb21]What do you consider yourself? I thought about you when I was writing these questions and didn’t know myself.[/quote]
    I consider myself Asian for the most part but people tell me that only refers to people with smaller eyes.

    I’m going with Asian.

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  17. Mish

    [quote name=GBTS]That explains the desert island fantasy.[/quote]Eh, probably doesn’t help that I picked mb for that answer (with all apologies to Tim, Jeff, and Adam).

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  18. dylanj

    i must be a shitty judge of speed. to me castro is fast. he isn’t going to steal 1000 bases but the guy gets from 1st to 3rd, steals bases intelligently and has 8 triples already.

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  19. dylanj

    and as far as HOF stuff goes think about this- if he hits at the pace he is right now and never develops past this skill set he will have 3000 hits around the age of 32.

    I think that gets him in

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  20. ACT

    Fangraphs needs to have a running speed statistic. I’d like to see a player’s average time running to first, as well as his fastest times. That should settle most speed-related debates, I think.

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  21. mb21

    Castro as above average speed, but i wouldn’t call him fast. He has 20 stolen bases in 29 attempts in his career. He’s been a lot smarter this year, but fast people steal a lot more bases than 20 over an 8 month period in baseball. Even good baserunners steal more bases than that. Derrek Lee wasn’t fast when he was younger, but he was a very good baserunner and regularly had 20 stolen bases.

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  22. Rice Cube

    FanGraphs has something abbreviated “Spd” that I assume is a speed rating but I have no idea how they calculate it.

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  23. ACT

    [quote name=Rice Cube]FanGraphs has something abbreviated “Spd” that I assume is a speed rating but I have no idea how they calculate it.[/quote]That’s based on triples, infield hits, and stolen bases, I think.

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  24. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mish]I consider myself Asian for the most part but people tell me that only refers to people with smaller eyes.

    I’m going with Asian.[/quote]
    Methinks Indians (like the real ones and not the ones with tomahawks) are Asian.

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  25. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]Castro as above average speed, but i wouldn’t call him fast. He has 20 stolen bases in 29 attempts in his career. He’s been a lot smarter this year, but fast people steal a lot more bases than 20 over an 8 month period in baseball. Even good baserunners steal more bases than that. Derrek Lee wasn’t fast when he was younger, but he was a very good baserunner and regularly had 20 stolen bases.[/quote]
    Could the managers have anything to do with it? It could just be that they’re putting the steal sign on less often.

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  26. dylanj

    or he just isn’t a naturally aggressive basestealer. again, he legs out plenty of triples and gets 1st to 3rd pretty often on the bases. he’s no burner but to me he has good speed

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  27. Berselius

    Or that he sucks at reading pickoff moves or something like that. As dj pointed out he does have all those triples.

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  28. Mish

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Methinks Indians (like the real ones and not the ones with tomahawks) are Asian.[/quote]I mean, we do have our own fricking subcontinent, I think we deserve our own option.

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  29. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]Could the managers have anything to do with it? It could just be that they’re putting the steal sign on less often.[/quote]I thought Quade said Castro has the green light. If he’s this super fast guy, he’d have more stolen bases. As many times as he’s been on base, there’s no way he’d have only 10 stolen bases or 20 stolen bases in his career. Managers still love those stolen bases. He has above average speed now, but I don’t know how much longer he’ll have that. If he grows into the power some think he can, he’ll be moved off SS in a second and have less speed at the same time.

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  30. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mish]I mean, we do have our own fricking subcontinent, I think we deserve our own option.[/quote]
    Mish —> sub-Asian?

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  31. ACT

    [quote name=ACT]That’s based on triples, infield hits, and stolen bases, I think.[/quote]Correction: it’s Stolen Base Percentage, Frequency of Stolen Base Attempts, Percentage of Triples, and Runs Scored Percentage

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  32. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mish]Joe Poz has a piece up going through which 2 players on each team come up most often with runners on base.[/quote]
    I’m kind of surprised that Joe Poz didn’t mention the part that GBTS did a few comments back about how Kosuke is on base 40% of the time and yet doesn’t score runs because Starlin shouldn’t be hitting third and Aramis has been slumping.

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  33. Mish

    [quote name=Rice Cube]I’m kind of surprised that Joe Poz didn’t mention the part that GBTS did a few comments back about how Kosuke is on base 40% of the time and yet doesn’t score runs because Starlin shouldn’t be hitting third and Aramis has been slumping.[/quote]Tango just linked to Poz’s piece and asked to see if someone wants to the baserunner side of the equation. So there you go, stay tuned…

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  34. dylanj

    [quote name=jtsunami]I can’t get Lonely Island – Jack Sparrow out of my head. Please help.[/quote]
    there is no cure. its just a great song

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  35. Berselius

    [quote name=jtsunami]I can’t get Lonely Island – Jack Sparrow out of my head. Please help.[/quote]
    Damn you, now it’s stuck in my head too

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  36. dylanj

    [quote name=mb21]Starlin Castro has gone from 1st to 3rd on a single one time this season. He did it 5 times last season.[/quote]
    huh, thats surprising.

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  37. mb21

    MLB average bases taken last season was 14. Castro had 8. Geovany soto had more. So maybe Castro is fast, but he’s not any good at taking extra bases.

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  38. mb21

    [quote name=dylanj]huh, thats surprising.[/quote]i was surprised too, dj. Check out the more batting stats on b-ref and scroll down to baserunning. They have all that. I was surprised and I don’t even watch the Cubs that much anymore.

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  39. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]MLB average bases taken last season was 14. Castro had 8. Geovany soto had more. So maybe Castro is fast, but he’s not any good at taking extra bases.[/quote]
    Bad coaching? Or bad instincts?

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  40. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=mb21]Here’s something else. In 2010 Ryan Howard went first to home on a double as many times as Castro did.[/quote]
    He’s black.

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  41. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Bad coaching? Or bad instincts?[/quote]Could be some bad coaching, but there are Cubs players with more than him so it’s mostly on him. I remember reading a scouting report when he was in the minors that said he had no clue how to steal a base. I imagine he’s that way with other types of baserunning. When Geovany Soto and Ryan Howard are taking as many or bases than you, something is wrong and needs work.

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  42. ACT

    Castro’s Ultimate Baserunning was 1.6 runs above average last year, and 0.2 this year. So, it seems he’s not terrible, but not particularly good at taking bases.

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  43. mb21

    [quote name=ACT]Castro’s Ultimate Baserunning was 1.6 runs above average last year, and 0.2 this year. So, it seems he’s not terrible, but not particularly good at taking bases.[/quote]Yeah, he’s not terrible by any means. This year he’s helped out by not being caught stealing as often as he’s successful, which is odd that it’s lower this year.

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  44. dylanj

    if castro hits at this pace for the rest of his career he would have to play until he was 44 to pass Pete Rose. That’s a pretty great testament to how good Rose was

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  45. ACT

    Although, it (SB%) is really more of a sample size issue than a skill issue. There’s a lot of skill involved, but 20-30 attempts is a small sample to draw conclusions from.

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  46. ACT

    That said, Chase Utley is amazing. On SB he’s 8-for-8 this year, 13-for-15 last year, 23-for-23 the year before, etc.

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  47. mb21

    [quote name=ACT]Although, it (SB%) is really more of a sample size issue than a skill issue. There’s a lot of skill involved, but 20-30 attempts is a small sample to draw conclusions from.[/quote]Considering he’s about average in success rate, that’s about what I’d peg any player for without lots of information.

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  48. mb21

    [quote name=dylanj]but if i had to place a bet on any player alive right now to catch Pete it would be Castro[/quote]That record will be broken eventually, but it’s going to be a long time yet. When players start playing productively into their mid to late 40s is when we’re looking at that possibility. It just takes so damn long. I’d also like to see Castro walk a lot more than he does already.

    It’s too bad Ichiro didn’t begin his career here. He’d have a chance.

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  49. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]That record will be broken eventually, but it’s going to be a long time yet. When players start playing productively into their mid to late 40s is when we’re looking at that possibility. It just takes so damn long. I’d also like to see Castro walk a lot more than he does already.

    It’s too bad Ichiro didn’t begin his career here. He’d have a chance.[/quote]

    Doesn’t Ichiro have more Japan+US hits than Pete Rose’s total?

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  50. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=mb21]Interesting that Paul said the same thing I said the other day about him being happy being slinging dime bags before Walt came along.[/quote]
    He wasn’t really happy, yo.

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  51. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]I think he might, RC.[/quote]
    I think they count Japan hits as 3/5 of a US hit though (dying laughing)

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  52. WenningtonsGorillaCock

    [quote name=the Onion]PHOENIX—Baseball fans across the country have registered their excitement for Tuesday night’s MLB All-Star game, saying they can’t wait to watch the league’s annual showcase of its best players who aren’t injured, aren’t afraid of potentially getting injured, aren’t too tired, are free the night of July 12, didn’t pitch recently, aren’t scheduled to pitch next week, don’t mind making the trip to Arizona, and are actually willing to play two and a half innings of baseball. “I love the All-Star game—seeing all those guys who sort of want to be there, don’t really deserve to be, and haven’t reached a point in their careers where they are confident enough to flat-out reject what fans want, all together on the same diamond,” said local Diamondbacks fan Neil Shernoff, adding that he was most thrilled to see whoever was replacing Placido Polanco. “Sure, Jose Reyes, Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Shane Victorino, Ryan Braun, Justin Verlander, Felix Hernandez, Jon Lester, CC Sabathia, David Price, Mariano Rivera, Cole Hamels, and Matt Cain may not take the field, but there are some other guys here, and they’re going to play a game of baseball.” Both managers said they’d be utilizing their entire rosters once they learned who their players are and what positions they play.)[/quote]
    (dying laughing)

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  53. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]It’s a fucking sausage fest up in here.[/quote]which explains why so many people want to be on an island with Aisle 424.

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  54. mb21

    [quote name=GW]there are 27.8 readers here?[/quote](dying laughing) so far 57 have filled it out and it’s now down to 3.5% female. So 2 so far. (dying laughing)

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  55. Aisle424

    [quote name=mb21](dying laughing) so far 57 have filled it out and it’s now down to 3.5% female. So 2 so far. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Two of our moms.

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  56. Aisle424

    [quote name=mb21]19 people want to be on an island with Aisle 424.[/quote]
    They misunderstood the question, they thought they were voting me off the island.

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  57. Rice Cube

    I would’ve voted for Aisle424 as I’ve actually met him, but I thought I’d like to meet AC instead just for kicks.

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  58. mb21

    [quote name=Aisle424]They misunderstood the question, they thought they were voting me off the island.[/quote]So AC is really winning?

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  59. mb21

    26% women like our Facebook page? That’s surprising. I’d have guessed it somewhere around 10%. You and AC must have a lot of groupies.

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  60. mb21

    30 have a 4-year degree and 24 have a Master’s, Doctorate or Professional degree.

    I like these demo surveys. Makes me feel closer to our readers. (dying laughing)

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  61. Aisle424

    [quote name=Mish]To the 4.9% out there…have you seen how big my spreadsheet is?[/quote]
    Don’t talk to my mom like that.

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  62. Aisle424

    [quote name=mb21]The number of unemployed is just barely under the national average.[/quote]
    Lee Elia insists it is 15%.

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  63. Aisle424

    [quote name=mb21]30 have a 4-year degree and 24 have a Master’s, Doctorate or Professional degree.
    [/quote]
    We’re going to have to make our posts more smarter or some shit.

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  64. Aisle424

    We should have included one more question.

    How much do you like cats?

    a) I love cats. I love every kind of cat.
    b) I want to hug them all
    c) I can’t answer because I’m thinking about cats again
    d) All of the above

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  65. Mish

    Anyone listening to Boers and Bernstein (LoHolmes in for Terry) – sounds like they have an adv stats guy on right now…

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  66. melissa

    [quote name=Mish]Anyone listening to Boers and Bernstein (LoHolmes in for Terry) – sounds like they have an adv stats guy on right now…[/quote]
    It’s Joe Sheehan

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  67. melissa

    I saw in the last thread that someone suggested trading Byrd and ARam to the White Sox for Viciedo. I’ve been wondering if Aramis might actually consider this move across town, it would be a good move for him and the Sox. I think Kosuke is actually a guy that would do the Sox more good than Byrd as he could replace Juan Pierre at leadoff and they could move Quentin back to left. Also if the Cubs picked up Viciedo he would probably have to be moved to first which is an area of need for them anyway.

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  68. Mish

    I voted for mb and just realized he’s the only one I haven’t seen an actual picture of (Ryno’s joke pics notwithstanding). It’s the equivalent of taking the mystery box over the washer/dryer set.

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  69. melissa

    [quote name=GBTS]I voted for Bersy because hes generally the calmest of you four and the least likely one I would kill.[/quote]
    This is the logic that I used since none of the above wasn’t an option. (dying laughing)

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  70. melissa

    [quote name=Mish]I voted for mb and just realized he’s the only one I haven’t seen an actual picture of (Ryno’s joke pics notwithstanding). It’s the equivalent of taking the mystery box over the washer/dryer set.[/quote]
    So you’re not counting all those cock shots he sent you as actual pictures? (dying laughing)

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  71. melissa

    [quote name=GBTS]If Cub fans are tired of impatient hitters I would love to see their reaction to Viciedo.[/quote]
    I’m sure Cubs fans would find a reason to hate him but he’s only 22 and looks like he’s going to rake.

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  72. Mish

    [quote name=GBTS]Mish until I saw a photo of you I pictured you as an obese white guy with a bad goatee. (dying laughing)[/quote]Sorry to disappoint.

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  73. Mish

    [quote name=melissa]So you’re not counting all those cock shots he sent you as actual pictures? (dying laughing)[/quote]
    I need a face to match to the head.

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  74. mb21

    [quote name=GBTS]I voted for Bersy because hes generally the calmest of you four and the least likely to kill me.[/quote]I should kill you for saying that.

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  75. mb21

    [quote name=melissa]So you’re not counting all those cock shots he sent you as actual pictures? (dying laughing)[/quote]They always tell you to put your best foot forward. Well…

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  76. melissa

    [quote name=mb21]They always tell you to put your best foot forward. Well…[/quote]
    I just hope you weren’t wearing Crocs like Favre, now that would be creepy. (dying laughing)

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  77. mb21

    [quote name=melissa]I just hope you weren’t wearing Crocs like Favre, now that would be creepy. (dying laughing)[/quote]I was wearing my Suprman underoos of course.

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  78. uncle dave

    [quote name=mb21]I was wearing my Suprman underoos of course.[/quote]Can I change my answer on the desert island question now?

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  79. GBTS

    So I’ve got a rules question that arose out of an incident from my softball game tonight.

    Let’s say in a sacrifice fly situation, if an outfielder was able to purposely bobble a ball for several seconds before making the catch, when does the runner on third get to leave? Once the ball is touched? Or does he have to wait for the official out?

    It would be harder than shit to do in baseball, but I envision a situation where an outfielder just juggles the ball as he runs it in and doesn’t “catch” it until he’s close enough to keep the runner from scoring.

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  80. ZappBrannigan

    Obviously that was a TOOBLAN, but I think 95% the time the pitcher doesn’t make that play as smoothly as he did. Pretty low risk play normally, I think

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  81. Rice Cube

    [quote name=GBTS]So I’ve got a rules question that arose out of an incident from my softball game tonight.

    Let’s say in a sacrifice fly situation, if an outfielder was able to purposely bobble a ball for several seconds before making the catch, when does the runner on third get to leave? Once the ball is touched? Or does he have to wait for the official out?

    It would be harder than shit to do in baseball, but I envision a situation where an outfielder just juggles the ball as he runs it in and doesn’t “catch” it until he’s close enough to keep the runner from scoring.[/quote]
    Let me get back to you in a few minutes after consulting the rulebook but I think that falls in the category of intentionally deceiving a baserunner as a fielder…

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  82. melissa

    [quote name=ZappBrannigan]Obviously that was a TOOBLAN, but I think 95% the time the pitcher doesn’t make that play as smoothly as he did. Pretty low risk play normally, I think[/quote]
    I agree, he fielded it cleanly and 9 times out of ten that probably doesn’t happen.

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  83. mb21

    [quote name=ZappBrannigan]Obviously that was a TOOBLAN, but I think 95% the time the pitcher doesn’t make that play as smoothly as he did. Pretty low risk play normally, I think[/quote]Agreed. You’ve got to figure 9 of 10 times you’re going to score on that play. I’ll run the numbers tomorrow using run expectancy, but I’d be shocked if the success rate for that had to be higher than 60%. There was no doubt he had a 60% chance of scoring.

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  84. GBTS

    [quote name=dylanj]has to wait for the catch before you can leave[/quote]Yeah that’s what I figured. Our left fielder tonight juggled a hard hit ball for a few seconds before he caught it, and the guy on third went home during the juggle. We challenged, and the ump said he could tag on contact.

    Good thing we lost by twelve. (dying laughing)

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  85. cwolf

    [quote name=ACT]That was a nice play to get Castro at home. I think he was right to run on contact, though.[/quote]It looked like he didn’t get a great jump but I agree that he was right to go.

    As soon as the fielder touches the ball, the runner can tag up and go. Bobblies don’t work. (dying laughing)

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  86. mb21

    [quote name=GBTS]So I’ve got a rules question that arose out of an incident from my softball game tonight.

    Let’s say in a sacrifice fly situation, if an outfielder was able to purposely bobble a ball for several seconds before making the catch, when does the runner on third get to leave? Once the ball is touched? Or does he have to wait for the official out?

    It would be harder than shit to do in baseball, but I envision a situation where an outfielder just juggles the ball as he runs it in and doesn’t “catch” it until he’s close enough to keep the runner from scoring.[/quote]It’s like we saw earlier this year on the line drive to Castro with a runner on 1st. He dropped it on purpose to get the double play but the umpire ruled the batter out and the runner back to 1st. Same thing would happen on that play. You can’t intentionally drop the ball in an attempt to trick the runner. It’s an out.

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  87. GBTS

    [quote name=mb21]You can’t intentionally drop the ball in an attempt to trick the runner. It’s an out.[/quote]This is slightly different though, you make the catch.

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  88. binky

    i wouldn’t count it as a TOOTBLAN because he made the right decision. I see a TOOTBLAN as a guy making a bad decision

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  89. GBTS

    [quote name=mb21]It’s like we saw earlier this year on the line drive to Castro with a runner on 1st. He dropped it on purpose to get the double play but the umpire ruled the batter out and the runner back to 1st. Same thing would happen on that play. You can’t intentionally drop the ball in an attempt to trick the runner. It’s an out.[/quote]Is that what that call was? I was at that game, I just assumed it was an infield fly rule. That was Cashner’s first last ever start, if I remember right.

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  90. mb21

    [quote name=GBTS]This is slightly different though, you make the catch.[/quote]It’s obviously a judgment call for an umpire, but if he believes the fielder intentionally juggled the ball to keep the runner on base, the batter will be out and the runner given the extra base.

    If it was determined that he had just juggled the ball while not attempting to do so then the runner cannot advance from that base until after the ball has been caught.

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  91. mb21

    [quote name=GBTS]Is that what that call was? I was at that game, I just assumed it was an infield fly rule. That was Cashner’s first last ever start, if I remember right.[/quote]Yeah, Castro intentionally dropped the ball so the umpire immediately signaled the out after he did that. That ball was never 6 feet off the ground and Castro basically had it in his glove and then popped it out right in front of him. Umpire made the right call.

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  92. cwolf

    [quote name=mb21]
    If it was determined that he had just juggled the ball while not attempting to do so then the runner cannot advance from that base until after the ball has been caught.[/quote]The runner can tag up and advance as soon as the fielder touches the ball.

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  93. Rice Cube

    [quote name=josh]you’re not a nincompoop if they make a good play.[/quote]
    Yeah, that was definitely a good play. TOOTB then.

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  94. mb21

    [quote name=josh]you’re not a nincompoop if they make a good play.[/quote]I tend to agree with this. I’ve argued with the person who came up with TOOTBLAN about this. Some so-called baserunning mistakes aren’t really mistakes. The reality is that in order to gain bases you have to make outs on the bases. If you’re not making any outs on the bases, you obviously aren’t being aggressive enough and taking the many bases a team is giving you.

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  95. mb21

    [quote name=cwolf]The runner can tag up and advance as soon as the fielder touches the ball.[/quote]Really? That makes sense, but it’s surprising.

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  96. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]I tend to agree with this. I’ve argued with the person who came up with TOOTBLAN about this. Some so-called baserunning mistakes aren’t really mistakes. The reality is that in order to gain bases you have to make outs on the bases. If you’re not making any outs on the bases, you obviously aren’t being aggressive enough and taking the many bases a team is giving you.[/quote]
    I’m pretty sure wv23 set up the TOOTB after all.

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  97. cwolf

    [quote name=mb21]I tend to agree with this. I’ve argued with the person who came up with TOOTBLAN about this. Some so-called baserunning mistakes aren’t really mistakes. The reality is that in order to gain bases you have to make outs on the bases. If you’re not making any outs on the bases, you obviously aren’t being aggressive enough and taking the many bases a team is giving you.[/quote]I agree also. I do remember WV23 including a lot of plays that just don’t work out as TOOTBLANs even though they were good risks to take.

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  98. mb21

    [quote name=cwolf]I agree also. I do remember WV23 including a lot of plays that just don’t work out as TOOTBLANs even though they were good risks to take.[/quote]Yeah, it’s too hard for someone to judge one play or another so I understand why he did it the way he did.

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  99. cwolf

    [quote name=mb21]Really? That makes sense, but it’s surprising.[/quote]It came up in a softball game like GBTS’ situation and the ump actually had the rulebook with him. A couple guys on our team got booted anyway (dying laughing).

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  100. Rice Cube

    Uh…did Ron Washington just pinch hit Paul Konerko for David Ortiz against a righty?

    And did Jurrjens hit his pitch count?

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  101. ACT

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Uh…did Ron Washington just pinch hit Paul Konerko for David Ortiz against a righty?

    And did Jurrjens hit his pitch count?[/quote]This is the all-star game. You make sure everyone plays, just like little league.

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  102. Rice Cube

    [quote name=ACT]This is the all-star game. You make sure everyone plays, just like little league.[/quote]
    They have so many players that they can at least make it make sense (dying laughing)

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  103. binky

    [quote name=mb21]Yeah, Castro intentionally dropped the ball so the umpire immediately signaled the out after he did that. That ball was never 6 feet off the ground and Castro basically had it in his glove and then popped it out right in front of him. Umpire made the right call.[/quote]I remember Pat Hughes saying it was obvious Castro had done it on purpose

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  104. binky

    [quote name=GBTS]Ryne Sandberg is livid that Perez is smiling after that double.[/quote]If they don’t take this game seriously, then the Terrorists have won.

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  105. AndCounting

    I’m totally (dying laughing) at this thread. Holy crap there’s some great stuff on here. I should visit this blog more often.

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  106. Rice Cube

    [quote name=melissa]Under Pants first to third on a passed ball. He’s no Cub. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    I like this.

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  107. ACT

    Heh, when Castro came up the announcers did the inevitable comparison to the great shortstops of old. They only went back as far as Banks, though. I guess it’s too soon to bring up comparisons to Honus Wagner.

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  108. Rice Cube

    Woah, does the NL have another catcher besides McCann and Molina? Or can McCann just come back in afterwards?

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  109. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Woah, does the NL have another catcher besides McCann and Molina? Or can McCann just come back in afterwards?[/quote]
    Ah, Montero, that’s right.

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  110. ACT

    Last year’s ASG was the first one I’d seen in ages, and I was surprised by how much fun it was. This year… meh.

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  111. ACT

    [quote name=Rice Cube]It’s been fun if you’re an NL fan.[/quote]Eh, I find one-sided games boring even if the team I’m rooting for is in the lead.

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  112. Rice Cube

    [quote name=ACT]Eh, I find one-sided games boring even if the team I’m rooting for is in the lead.[/quote]
    Don’t you like anything?

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  113. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=GBTS]I voted for Bersy because hes generally the calmest of you four and the least likely to kill me.[/quote]
    Calmer’n you are.

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  114. Mish

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]Not sure I understand your take on this.[/quote]
    The robbers and the guys who put them up to it have awful, awful nicknames.

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  115. Dr. Aneus Taint

    Straw man!

    Where did I say I did not want the #3 prospect?

    All I said was that Kazmir was worth signing. Which he is.

    by Al Yellon on Jul 12, 2011 1:46 PM CDT upreply

    Montero…

    … is likely going to be a first baseman or left fielder in the major leagues. Is that what we want?

    by Al Yellon on Jul 11, 2011 3:55 PM CDT upreply

    Where would anyone get such a crazy idea?!

    That said, I do think Kazmir is worth a shot.

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  116. Xoomwaffle

    my colleague Al Yellon

    Rob Neyer just wrote these words. I wonder how often he now contemplates seppuku.

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  117. Aisle424

    @SBNProductTeam: We’re investigating reports of slowness on the @sbnation network

    Al might get a short bus.

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  118. Mish

    On-base percentages also require some mental adjustments from the recent past. Seven teams are under .310, and that list includes Billy Beane’s formerly OBP-conscious A’s at .299. Oakland has one of the better pitching staffs in baseball, but a weak-hitting lineup has dragged the franchise down to a 39-53 record and last place in the AL West. The Mariners bring up the rear with a putrid .290 OBP.

    The value of OBP, drawing walks and extending at-bats in an era of pitch counts comes shining through when batting averages are on a downward trend. The Yankees are 11th in the majors with a .258 team average, but 343 walks in 88 games (almost 3.9 bases on balls per game) has led to a combined OBP of .340, which ties the Cardinals for second best in the majors.

    Despite a 37-55 record, the Cubs are sixth in the majors with a .263 team average, but just 223 walks in 92 games (2.43 per game, or a projected 394 over a full season) has led to an 18th-ranked team OBP of .317. The main offenders in impatience are all hitting over .300. The young double play combo of second baseman Darwin Barney (.306, but just 10 walks in 294 ABs) and shortstop Starlin Castro (.307 with 117 hits and just 16 walks in 381 ABs) are hacking away, as is utilityman Jeff Baker (.306 and four walks in 134 ABs).

    http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2011/07/midseason_numbe.php

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  119. Mish

    FanGraphs NL Central Top 10 Prospect review:

    Chicago Cubs
    1. Brett Jackson, OF
    2. Trey McNutt, RHP
    3. Chris Carpenter, RHP
    4. Josh Vitters, 3B
    5. Jay Jackson, RHP
    6. Rafael Dolis, RHP
    7. Hayden Simpson, RHP
    8. Robinson Lopez, RHP
    9. Reggie Golden, OF
    10. Austin Reed, RHP

    The Cubs’ Top 10 list has changed a lot because of off-season trades that occurred after many of the Top 10 lists had gone to print (Baseball America, Goldstein, Sickels). It’s not really a strong system, especially after the trade, and I had Jackson at No. 1. If he can curb the K problems (31%) then he should be a solid everyday outfielder, but probably not a star. After a breakout 2010 season, McNutt has had a down year in double-A and has been hampered by injury. Carpenter made his MLB debut in 2010 but he’s had an up-and-down year due to control issues. Jackson is pretty close to hitting rock bottom and his best hope for a MLB career is probably the bullpen. Vitters has yet to learn the value of patience (3.1% walk rate), which is a shame because it really is diminishing his ceiling. Golden is off to a nice start in short-season ball. The remainder of the Top 10 has been pretty disappointing. Like a few others I didn’t rank Matt Szczur on the Top 10 and, honestly, I still don’t know what to make of him.

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  120. Berselius

    [quote name=Mish]b, I just bought the first four books of “A song of fire and ice”; I wanna read them then watch the show.[/quote]
    +1 LSA Rec’d NAMBLA Fire and Blood

    I’m buried in the fifth book right now, so you won’t see much of me around here (dying laughing)

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  121. Mish

    [quote name=Berselius]+1 LSA Rec’d NAMBLA Fire and Blood

    I’m buried in the fifth book right now, so you won’t see much of me around here (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Yeah I guess I meant “Ice and Fire” (dying laughing). I just got a few pages in today on the bus but this is the shit I generally like and nothing so far made me think otherwise. I’m actually kinda stoked about reading this. So was season 1 just the first book basically?

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  122. Berselius

    [quote name=Mish]Yeah I guess I meant “Ice and Fire” (dying laughing). I just got a few pages in today on the bus but this is the shit I generally like and nothing so far made me think otherwise. I’m actually kinda stoked about reading this. So was season 1 just the first book basically?[/quote]
    Yeah, it’s the first book. They obviously had to cut some stuff out, as you can get inside people’s heads in the book and not on the show. But the book was also limited to its POV characters, so the show was able to add a few scenes that weren’t in the book. It was a great adaptation but as usual book > show.

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  123. Mish

    [quote name=Berselius]So I guess the NL won last night, finally. Did the NL have fewer replacement players than the AL?[/quote]I don’t follow your quetsion, but I know the AL burned through pitchers, because A) Beckett got hurt warming up and B) Ron Washington is turrible at bullpen management.

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  124. Mish

    [quote name=Berselius]Yeah, it’s the first book. They obviously had to cut some stuff out, as you can get inside people’s heads in the book and not on the show. But the book was also limited to its POV characters, so the show was able to add a few scenes that weren’t in the book. It was a great adaptation but as usual book > show.[/quote]
    Yeah that’s what everyone says, but the response appears to be both are worthwhile.

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  125. Berselius

    [quote name=Mish]Yeah that’s what everyone says, but the response appears to be both are worthwhile.[/quote]
    Oh, indeed. I can’t believe we have to wait another 10 months until the next season. Of course, I’ve been waiting 5+ years for this book so I guess that’s nothing in comparison (dying laughing). I had a quibble or two about the adaptation (mainly concerning one particular character) but overall it was great. One of the performances in particular changed my appreciation for one of the characters for the better too.

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  126. WaLi

    Great show which made me start reading the books which are even better, as B says. Trying to hurry through the 4th book now so I can start the 5th (dying laughing)

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  127. Berselius

    [quote name=Mish]I don’t follow your quetsion, but I know the AL burned through pitchers, because A) Beckett got hurt warming up and B) Ron Washington is turrible at bullpen management.[/quote]
    I just meant in the sense that ~370 baseball players were All-Stars this year due to players declining the invite or missing due to injury. I don’t think it makes a difference but if more of them were AL players that would have been an easy narrative for the writers to glom onto.

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