| Cubs | wOBA | wRC | RS | Diamondbacks | wOBA | wRC | RS | |
| Kosuke Fukudome | .343 | .57 | -.06 | Chris Young | .339 | .56 | .00 | |
| Darwin Barney | .293 | .38 | .03 | Kelly Johnson | .360 | .62 | -.01 | |
| Starlin Castro | .332 | .51 | -.03 | Justin Upton | .381 | .68 | .03 | |
| Aramis Ramirez | .350 | .55 | -.03 | Stephen Drew | .341 | .52 | -.01 | |
| Jeff Baker | .312 | .41 | -.01 | Miguel Montero | .339 | .50 | -.01 | |
| Marlon Byrd | .338 | .49 | -.01 | Melvin Mora | .313 | .40 | -.15 | |
| Alfonso Soriano | .282 | .29 | -.10 | Russell Branyan | .376 | .59 | -.01 | |
| Geovany Soto | .362 | .53 | -.01 | Gerardo Parra | .327 | .42 | -.03 | |
| Carlos Zambrano | .175 | .00 | .00 | Armando Galarraga | .175 | .00 | .00 | |
| 3.7 | -.2 | 4.3 | -.2 |
| Starting Pitcher | IP/GS | FIP |
| Carlos Zambrano | 5.81 | 3.92 |
| Armando Galarraga | 5.83 | 5.19 |
| Bullpens | xFIP | |
| Cubs | 4.20 | |
| Diamondbacks | 3.45 | |
Score: Cubs 4.7, Diamondbacks 4.7
Win Probability: 45.6%
Comments
Cubs lose.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Cubs lose.[/quote]
Absolutely Correct
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Absolutely Correct[/quote]Is that like being correct in an absolute way?
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Is that like being correct in an absolute way?[/quote]
I can’t argue with you today.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]I can’t argue with you today.[/quote]Amusing…but wrong.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
In the pre-game, Kap said he wrote a blog, “suggesting the Cubs move Starlin Castro to second base and put Darwin Barney, a natural shortstop, at short.”
What the fuck is a “natural” shortstop and why wouldn’t Castro qualify as one as well? If he thinks Barney is a better defensive SS, then say so, he’s not somehow “naturally” more qualified to play there. I should have known better than to turn on Comcast before the game began.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Amusing…but wrong.[/quote]
Nice Snark.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]In the pre-game, Kap said he wrote a blog, “suggesting the Cubs move Starlin Castro to second base and put Darwin Barney, a natural shortstop, at short.”
What the fuck is a “natural” shortstop and why wouldn’t Castro qualify as one as well? If he thinks Barney is a better defensive SS, then say so, he’s not somehow “naturally” more qualified to play there. I should have known better than to turn on Comcast before the game began.[/quote]
Great. The Brenly-Kap-FPM Stone Human Centipede has gone into Barney > Castro overdrive.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]In the pre-game, Kap said he wrote a blog, “suggesting the Cubs move Starlin Castro to second base and put Darwin Barney, a natural shortstop, at short.”
What the fuck is a “natural” shortstop and why wouldn’t Castro qualify as one as well? If he thinks Barney is a better defensive SS, then say so, he’s not somehow “naturally” more qualified to play there. I should have known better than to turn on Comcast before the game began.[/quote]
Kap outstupided himself with that one. I didn’t hear it, but Castro is a gem at SS.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Great. The Brenly-Kap-FPM Stone Human Centipede has gone into Barney > Castro overdrive.[/quote]
That’s exactly what I thought. We’re going to hear more of this. Quade was asked about it in the dugout before the game and he said absolutely not. I’m glad he gave it no credence but it also means that some trollish little dickhead beat writer has latched onto Kap’s BS.
melissaQuote Reply
Kaplan was serious? that spray tan juice has leaked into his brain. I knew it.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
What’s the difference in replacement level between SS and 2B? I think it’s like 5 runs over a season, but I can’t recall.
MishQuote Reply
Barney is older and probably more consistent at short, right now. But, I will hazard to guess that he doesn’t possess the range or arm that Castro does. Castro has the higher ceiling at SS and to me it’s way too soon to be moving him elsewhere. I believe Castro’s desire to play SS should be given credence since he’s the only player on your team who really matters going forward.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]That’s exactly what I thought. We’re going to hear more of this. Quade was asked about it in the dugout before the game and he said absolutely not. I’m glad he gave it no credence but it also means that some trollish little dickhead beat writer has latched onto Kap’s BS.[/quote]Stone’s been say it all week, and I imagine Sully, Gordo, and Brenly will start in tonight on it.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]Kaplan was serious? that spray tan juice has leaked into his brain. I knew it.[/quote]
He was dead serious. Said he wrote it on his blog and someone asked Quade about it in the dugout before the game. They rolled the tape and then Kap said again that he thinks Barney is a “natural” SS who has played there in college and should go back to short.
melissaQuote Reply
Kudos on the HumanCentiPad reference, MO
MishQuote Reply
I didn’t know FPM was talking about it, I’m sure that’s what inspired Kap’s blog. Makes sense, he doesn’t usually have an original thought.
melissaQuote Reply
Not to mention that Barney is not the guy you want in the starting line-up for a big market club despite his nice little batting average thus far.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
What’s the over/under on whole long Barney stays good?
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Kudos on the HumanCentiPad reference, MO[/quote]
Not funny. Humans being sewn together is no laughing matter.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]What’s the over/under on whole long Barney stays good?[/quote]
Hmmm. Is someone developing a slight man-crush on Barney? (dying laughing)
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Stone’s been say it all week, and I imagine Sully, Gordo, and Brenly will start in tonight on it.[/quote]
I made it a goal of mine to not listen to Stoney again. EVER. It’s working.
HG: Winning
Horny GoatQuote Reply
Also, fuck RCN. I have to watch this in lo def til CSN switches over. #firstworldproblems
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Hmmm. Is someone developing a slight man-crush on Barney? (dying laughing)[/quote]Someone’s typing on a humancentipad and is getting fucked by autocorrect. I wish it would at least kiss me before it fucked me.
MishQuote Reply
The defensive adjustment for WAR is .75 for SS and .25 for 2B, so it’s half a win over 700 plate appearances. However, a SS would be 5 runs better on defense so he wouldn’t be any less valuable at 2nd. I just don’t see why you’d move him to 2nd base when he’s the youngest person in the league. Just doesn’t make any sense, which is exactly why the headlines will soon read: Castro moves to 2nd, Barney takes over SS.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mish]What’s the over/under on whole long Barney stays good?[/quote]3 weeks before regression hits him square in the ass.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Thanks mb
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Someone’s typing on a humancentipad and is getting fucked by autocorrect. I wish it would at least kiss me before it fucked me.[/quote]
(dying laughing)
melissaQuote Reply
I think Barney’s defense is good enough that he can be a valuable player even if he cools off a bit at the plate. The guy can play defense with the best of them.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Just doesn’t make any sense, which is exactly why the headlines will soon read: Castro moves to 2nd, Barney takes over SS.[/quote]
If this happens it would tell me Ricketts is micro-managing and even dumber than I’ve previously imagined.
melissaQuote Reply
Walk aggressive hitters…see what happens.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I think Barney’s defense is good enough that he can be a valuable player even if he cools off a bit at the plate. The guy can play defense with the best of them.[/quote]I don’t think he’s going to “cool a bit.” I think he’s going to drop off the fucking table. (dying laughing) Dude has a career MiLB OPS of .708.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
No Grace on the dbacks tv tonight? amen
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]No Grace on the dbacks tv tonight? amen[/quote]He had a hot date with Wanda.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I don’t think he’s going to “cool a bit.” I think he’s going to drop off the fucking table. (dying laughing) Dude has a career MiLB OPS of .708.[/quote]
no doubt, and like I said the cubs can do better and SHOULD do better.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
fuck
Horny GoatQuote Reply
The Cubs rotation is just awful. Might be the worst in baseball.
mb21Quote Reply
sigh
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]No Grace on the dbacks tv tonight? amen[/quote]Who is the color man? I’m liking him so far.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]He had a hot date with Wanda.[/quote]
Are you referring to my leather-faced friend, Wanda? That Wanda?
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Who is the color man? I’m liking him so far.[/quote]
racist!
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Are you referring to my leather-faced friend, Wanda? That Wanda?[/quote]Oh, indeed.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
With pitching like this, who needs enemies?
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Zambrano’s 89 mph fastball isn’t long for any rotation. You can get by with that velocity if you throw strikes, but Zambrano can’t. He makes too many mistakes (see Upton, Justin) because he doesn’t have very good control and that
fastball is worthless.mb21Quote Reply
Sutton has always had it in for Ramirez not running it out. Did you hear that?
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Zambrano’s 89 mph fastball isn’t long for any rotation. You can get by with that velocity if you throw strikes, but Zambrano can’t. He makes too many mistakes (see Upton, Justin) because he doesn’t have very good control and that
fastball is worthless.[/quote]Let’s See What Happens.Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
(dying laughing) only 7 pitches so far for Galarraga
BerseliusQuote Reply
one time Aramis didn’t run out a ground ball and Darren sutton shouted “what a JOKE”
Horny GoatQuote Reply
5 outs, 11 pitches. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]one time Aramis didn’t run out a ground ball and Darren sutton shouted “what a JOKE”[/quote]Dbags pbp guy?
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]one time Aramis didn’t run out a ground ball and Darren sutton shouted “what a JOKE”[/quote]I remember that, HG. Did he get him on already tonight?
mb21Quote Reply
at that AB Sutton said “let’s see how far Ramirez makes it to first base”
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]one time Aramis didn’t run out a ground ball and Darren sutton shouted “what a JOKE”[/quote]He was actually looking down his pants when he said that.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]at that AB Sutton said “let’s see how far Ramirez makes it to first base”[/quote]Sutton’s just jealous because he’s never made it to first base.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
It’s been nice to see Soriano hit for some power this year, but it would be nice to see an OBP better than .2fucking58.
mb21Quote Reply
Grace defended Aramis last night before Sutton got a chance to pounce. I despise Sutton.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
HG, who is the color announcer for the Dbacks?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It’s been nice to see Soriano hit for some power this year, but it would be nice to see an OBP better than .2fucking58.[/quote]This hacktastic approach has made a bad offense markedly worse.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
This team makes me sad.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It’s been nice to see Soriano hit for some power this year, but it would be nice to see an OBP better than .2fucking58.[/quote]
like you said earlier, it doesn’t seem possible, though he’s made the most of so many hits, his production has been a bit deceiving.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]He was actually looking down his pants when he said that.[/quote]
(dying laughing)
melissaQuote Reply
(dying laughing) Upton’s home run was hit right at a Cubs fan and he dropped it.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]This hacktastic approach has made a bad offense markedly worse.[/quote]
he was seeing many more pitches earlier in the season so needs to get back to it.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]HG, who is the color announcer for the Dbacks?[/quote]
no idea
Horny GoatQuote Reply
In unrelated news, the Rays found another way to forfeit the DH. Matt Joyce was ejected.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]no idea[/quote]You’re supposed to know this shit. What good are you?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21](dying laughing) Upton’s home run was hit right at a Cubs fan and he dropped it.[/quote]It’s a way of (L)ife.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Sutton’s just jealous because he’s never made it to first base.[/quote]
or 2nd or 3rd.. or all the way (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]You’re supposed to know this shit. What good are you?[/quote]
no idea
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]no idea[/quote]Can you pitch? The Cubs need starters.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Can you pitch? The Cubs need starters.[/quote]
…Let’s see what happens.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Can you pitch? The Cubs need starters.[/quote]
I threw a no hitter in high school, but the other team wasn’t mentally prepared.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
when is the last time the cubs won?
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]when is the last time the cubs won?[/quote]www.whenisthelasttimethecubswon.com
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]when is the last time the cubs won?[/quote]
http://www.whenisthelasttimethecubswon.commelissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]www.whenisthelasttimethecubswon.com[/quote]
I knew that was coming (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
the jokes around here are getting as old as Jack Benny, who is dead.
no offense (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
I’m really just a bot that posts Al quotes, Rays facts, and question urls randomly.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]I threw a no hitter in high school, but the other team wasn’t mentally prepared.[/quote]I came in relief in the 7th inning in a game that went 14. We won and I didn’t allow a single hit. Does that count as a no-hitter? (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]the jokes around here are getting as old as Jack Benny, who is dead.
no offense (dying laughing)[/quote]
Jack Benny being dead isn’t offensive to me.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]when is the last time the cubs won?[/quote]They were 10-10 and now they’re 10-14. I don’t know when it was they last won though.
mb21Quote Reply
people in Arizona are complaining about the cold?
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Jack Benny being dead isn’t offensive to me.[/quote]Because it’s not something you recently enjoyed.
MishQuote Reply
For some reason I’m actually surprised Brenly just diagrammed and drooled over Koyie’s “perfect form” on the homer he hit last night.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I came in relief in the 7th inning in a game that went 14. We won and I didn’t allow a single hit. Does that count as a no-hitter? (dying laughing)[/quote]
I think it does in American legion ball (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Because it’s not something you recently enjoyed.[/quote]
That makes sense. I don’t like anything.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]For some reason I’m actually surprised Brenly just diagrammed and drooled over Koyie’s “perfect form” on the homer he hit last night.[/quote]Johnny Cakes is the most fuckfaced, biased announcer in the bigs. He make Marty Brennaman look like Vin Scully.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]They were 10-10 and now they’re 10-14. I don’t know when it was they last won though.[/quote]
last saturday’s 10-8 wild one vs LAD was the last victory by our lovable CHC
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Johnny Cakes is the most fuckfaced, biased announcer in the bigs. He make Marty Brennaman look like Vin Scully.[/quote]
are you sure? I think the MIL homers and a few others have Brenly beat.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
Wow, Sutton is really raving about Zambrano. Cakes is the reason why I haven’t switched over. I hate Sutton, but Brenly is brutal.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
I could actually tolerate Brenly more if he were the type of homer that praised all of the Cubs and not just his “guys.”
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]Wow, Sutton is really raving about Zambrano. Cakes is the reason why I haven’t switched over. I hate Sutton, but Brenly is brutal.[/quote]
Well, you just missed the break down of Koyie’s annual homer, sucks to be you.
melissaQuote Reply
they’re talking about dollar hot dogs at wrigley. I might drive there for that.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
They showed Upton’s home/road splits without mentioning how many games. Stupid to bring that up this early in the year.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]are you sure? I think the MIL homers and a few others have Brenly beat.[/quote]I’m not talking about homerism. I’m talking about Brenly’s incessant need to pick out the “scrappers” and praise everything they do and using his denigration of the actually good players to make them seem far better than they are. It’s revolting. Koyie Hill is an awful baseball player, one that would not make the roster for probably any other team in this league, and Brenly treats the guy like he’s some maligned superstar who is hopelessly trapped behind an overpaid waster.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]I could actually tolerate Brenly more if he were the type of homer that praised all of the Cubs and not just his “guys.”[/quote]
I don’t like many announcers (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
And Jerry Angelo strikes again. Takes a no-name FS from Cal with his 3rd rounder, has one 6th round pick left to address needs at LB, WR, and CB. Well done, JA.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I’m not talking about homerism. I’m talking about Brenly’s incessant need to pick out the “scrappers” and praise everything they do and using his denigration of the actually good players to make them seem far better than they are. It’s revolting. Koyie Hill is an awful baseball player, one that would not make the roster for probably any other team in this league, and Brenly treats the guy like he’s some maligned superstar who is hopelessly trapped behind an overpaid waster.[/quote]
I know what you mean.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]And Jerry Angelo strikes again. Takes a no-name FS from Cal with his 3rd rounder, has one 6th round pick left to address needs at LB, WR, and CB. Well done, JA.[/quote]Fucking Christ. No WR?
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]And Jerry Angelo strikes again. Takes a no-name FS from Cal with his 3rd rounder, has one 6th round pick left to address needs at LB, WR, and CB. Well done, JA.[/quote]
“We’re not here to show our geniusness.”
-Jerry Angelo
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Fucking Christ. No WR?[/quote]No. Wasted a 3rd rounder with a lot of value on the board.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Fucking Christ. No WR?[/quote]
who needs a WR when you got.. never mind (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
Angelo: “Let’s not get into judging souls here.” (dying laughing) I have no idea what that means.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Thoughts on Paea, MO?
melissaQuote Reply
Apparently, JA is getting raked by the local scribes for that pick. I wish I had audio of this.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
watch the bears sign butterfingers Niles Paul because he has speed.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Thoughts on Paea, MO?[/quote]I only saw him play twice this year. Pretty classic Angelo DT pick, and, to be fair to JA, he’s had a lot of success over the years picking out good DT talent for the Cover-2. Paea is a bit light, but he’s really strong, plays with good leverage and has a very quick first step. Skill-wise, similar to Anthony Adams, but not nearly as bulky. He’s got the frame of a pass-rushing DT, but he’s very strong vs. the run.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]watch the bears sign butterfingers Niles Paul because he has speed.[/quote]I’d like to see them sign Jackson or Rice.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Thoughts on Paea, MO?[/quote]
it’s a Spanish dish made with meat and fish, very tasty.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]it’s a Spanish dish made with meat and fish, very tasty.[/quote](dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
Gallarraga has thrown 38 ppitches so far. Way to work ’em, Cubs. (dying laughing)
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]it’s a Spanish dish made with meat and fish, very tasty.[/quote]I may have to don my Executive tonight.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Gallarraga has thrown 38 ppitches so far. Way to work ’em, Cubs. (dying laughing)[/quote]
Swing wildly at everything…Let’s see what happens.
melissaQuote Reply
The future 2B displaying his average speed again.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I may have to don my Executive tonight.[/quote]
he also had an idea for a brimless rainhat, but that never did materialize.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]it’s a Spanish dish made with meat and fish, very tasty.[/quote]
Maybe I would like the American version that’s double the meat and no fish.
/Ron Swanson’d
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]he also had an idea for a brimless rainhat, but that never did materialize.[/quote]I’ll have to sport my urban sombrero, then.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Maybe I would like the American version that’s double the meat and no fish.[/quote]
no sardines then I take it
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]no sardines then I take it[/quote]Nah. They don’t pair well with the marble rye.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I’ll have to sport my urban sombrero, then.[/quote]
put it on the cover
Horny GoatQuote Reply
Why don’t you white people consider fish meat?
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Nah. They don’t pair well with the marble rye.[/quote]
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Nah. They don’t pair well with the marble rye.[/quote]
Shut up, you ole bag!
Horny GoatQuote Reply
Marlon Byrd hates pitches.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Why don’t you white people consider fish meat?[/quote]Racist!
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Why don’t you white people consider fish meat?[/quote]
Are you aware of the Ron Swanson, Pyramid of Greatness? Berselius will have to share it with you.
melissaQuote Reply
Yes. My question is honest tho.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Yes. My question is honest tho.[/quote]Who knows why white people do the shit they do. Fax that question to Len and Bob.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Why don’t you white people consider fish meat?[/quote]White people don’t consider it meat?
mb21Quote Reply
Get the swordfish Jerry, the best swordfish in the city. The BEST.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
I don’t know anyone that doesn’t think fish is meat.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]White people don’t consider it meat?[/quote]Idk, I’m no cracker.
MishQuote Reply
I’m going as Ron Swanson for Halloween this year. I grow an awesome fucking stache and I look just like Ron Swanson.
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Who knows why white people do the shit they do. Fax that question to Len and Bob.[/quote]
Absolutely Correct.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Why don’t you white people consider fish meat?[/quote]
It’s practically a vegetable.
Ron SwansonQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I don’t know anyone that doesn’t think fish is meat.[/quote]I can’t argue with you today.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Muck Muckintuck]I’m going as Ron Swanson for Halloween this year. I grow an awesome fucking stache and I look just like Ron Swanson.[/quote]
You, sir, are a great American.
melissaQuote Reply
Ok, everyone, shut up and look at me. Welcome to Visions of Nature. This room has several paintings in it. Some are big and some are small. People did them and they are here now. I believe that after this is over they will be hung in government buildings. Why the government is involved in an art show is beyond me. I also think it’s pointless for a human to paint scenes of nature when they could just go outside and stand in it. Anyway, please do not misinterpret the fact that I am talking right now as genuine interest in art and attempt to discuss it with me further. End of speech.
Ron SwansonQuote Reply
The white people thing is just because all of you are. The question is more about popular usage, same with eggs. Some people differentiate other meats from seafood.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I don’t know anyone that doesn’t think fish is meat.[/quote]
Jessica Simpson? (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
Sorianos OBP just went up.
MishQuote Reply
I don’t know if it’s true but I’ll blame the Catholics for making white people think fish isn’t meat. They didn’t want to go totally vegetarian on Fridays during lent.
melissaQuote Reply
ADLOPHO!
GEO!
BerseliusQuote Reply
A Geovany Soto sighting.
mb21Quote Reply
visions of 2001 game 7 for Soriano.
holy shit! another one. we tied
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]I don’t know if it’s true but I’ll blame the Catholics for making white people think fish isn’t meat. They didn’t want to go totally vegetarian on Fridays during lent.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s a big part of it. Also that fish is regarded as healthier than other meats.
BerseliusQuote Reply
Mish, I’m wondering what you’ve heard people say they consider or think fish is. I grew up in the Midwest where fish isn’t nearly as popular as other parts of the country. I didn’t know anyone who didn’t consider it meat. If you went up to someone in Iowa and asked them what meat they wanted for dinner they’d immediately think about beef, pork, chicken, and fish. Iowa is like 187% white.
mb21Quote Reply
Meat, fish and poultry seem to be common classifications of white people food.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Yeah, that’s a big part of it. Also that fish is regarded as healthier than other meats.[/quote]
by FAR.
/preaching
Horny GoatQuote Reply
I’ve never lived outside Chicago.
MishQuote Reply
I guess fish fry/boil culture isn’t nearly as strong in Iowa as it is in WI
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Meat, fish and poultry seem to be common classifications of white people food.[/quote]OK, I get what you’re saying now. That’s not just white people though. That’s the entire restaurant industry as well. Everyone knows the others are meat, but when you say meat I think most people immediately think of beef.
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[quote name=mb21]Mish, I’m wondering what you’ve heard people say they consider or think fish is. I grew up in the Midwest where fish isn’t nearly as popular as other parts of the country. I didn’t know anyone who didn’t consider it meat. If you went up to someone in Iowa and asked them what meat they wanted for dinner they’d immediately think about beef, pork, chicken, and fish. Iowa is like 187% white.[/quote]
you can’t get fresh fish here in the midwest and it tastes completely different.
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I grew up on a farm here in IL and it’s not that people think fish isn’t meat but they would never call fish, meat. If you asked my grandpa what he wanted for dinner and he told you some kind of meat, he would expect beef or pork.
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Something tells me I’m not going to get detailed breakdowns of Sori and Geo’s HR from Johnny Cakes. (dying laughing)
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[quote name=Berselius]I guess fish fry/boil culture isn’t nearly as strong in Iowa as it is in WI[/quote]It might be. The only locally caught fish I had much of any interest in eating as a child was trout and you don’t fry or boil trout. I do remember a friend I used to have whose family would fry fish a lot.
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[quote name=Horny Goat]you can’t get fresh fish here in the midwest and it tastes completely different.[/quote]
Well, salt-water fish. You can get lake perch at pretty much any local place in Wi
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[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Something tells me I’m not going to get detailed breakdowns of Sori and Geo’s HR from Johnny Cakes. (dying laughing)[/quote]
He won’t be pointing out their laser beam focus on the ball or their “perfect” form.
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[quote name=melissa]I grew up on a farm here in IL and it’s not that people think fish isn’t meat but they would never call fish, meat. If you asked my grandpa what he wanted for dinner and he told you some kind of meat, he would expect beef or pork.[/quote]This
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Is it true that fish don’t fry in the kitchen?
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[quote name=Berselius] You can get lake perch at pretty much any local place in Wi[/quote]
Same in IL small towns. Fish fry every friday night, and not just during lent.
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[quote name=mb21]It might be. The only locally caught fish I had much of any interest in eating as a child was trout and you don’t fry or boil trout. I do remember a friend I used to have whose family would fry fish a lot.[/quote]
Pretty much every bar/non-ethnic restaurant in WI does a fish fry on Friday nights. Some places do a fish boil, which is surprisingly good if done right (you wouldn’t think so). And most places that do boils know how to do it well. They’re basically flash-boiled.
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[quote name=Muck Muckintuck]Is it true that fish don’t fry in the kitchen?[/quote]Would you ask Bootsy Collins that question?
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[quote name=melissa]I grew up on a farm here in IL and it’s not that people think fish isn’t meat but they would never call fish, meat. If you asked my grandpa what he wanted for dinner and he told you some kind of meat, he would expect beef or pork.[/quote]My grandpa was the same way. I get what you guys are saying now. I grew up in Iowa. It’s cow country. Beef and corn. And kickass cantaloupe from the meth capital in Iowa.
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one of the worst things about living in the middle of the country is not getting good salmon, etc.
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You can tune a piano but u can’t tuna fish.
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[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Would you ask Bootsy Collins that question?[/quote]Well…………..no.
MuckerQuote Reply
MO ——-> Lompoc Barrel-Aged Ale tasting.
Out, fuckfaces.
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[quote name=mb21]My grandpa was the same way. I get what you guys are saying now. I grew up in Iowa. It’s cow country. Beef and corn. And kickass cantaloupe from the meth capital in Iowa.[/quote]
Fuck cantaloupes. They ruin 99% of fruit salads. I think bell peppers are the only vegetables I hate more (dying laughing)
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sad thing is most fish is fried here. why take a good thing and turn it into… french fries?
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[quote name=Ron Swanson]Ok, everyone, shut up and look at me. Welcome to Visions of Nature. This room has several paintings in it. Some are big and some are small. People did them and they are here now. I believe that after this is over they will be hung in government buildings. Why the government is involved in an art show is beyond me. I also think it’s pointless for a human to paint scenes of nature when they could just go outside and stand in it. Anyway, please do not misinterpret the fact that I am talking right now as genuine interest in art and attempt to discuss it with me further. End of speech.[/quote]
Are you a normal American or an artsy weirdo?
http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/games/rons-art-quiz/
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[quote name=Berselius]Fuck cantaloupes. They ruin 99% of fruit salads. I think bell peppers are the only vegetables I hate more (dying laughing)[/quote]
you hate bell peppers? wtf is wrong with you? (dying laughing)
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And yes I know that cantaloupe aren’t vegetables. You know what I mean.
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good job Z!
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[quote name=Horny Goat]you hate bell peppers? wtf is wrong with you? (dying laughing)[/quote]
I fucking despise them. I hate the way they smell. I don’t mind other peppers though.
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[quote name=mb21]And kickass cantaloupe from the meth capital in Iowa.[/quote]
Don’t they call it muskmelon in IA?
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[quote name=Berselius]And yes I know that cantaloupe aren’t vegetables. You know what I mean.[/quote]
do you seriously dislike bell peppers? I’m speechless. I have no speech.
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[quote name=Berselius]I fucking despise them. I hate the way they smell. I don’t mind other peppers though.[/quote]
wut?
OK, let’s talk hot peppers.
I still can’t believe.. oh nevermind.
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[quote name=Berselius]Fuck cantaloupes. They ruin 99% of fruit salads. I think bell peppers are the only vegetables I hate more (dying laughing)[/quote]
I’m more surprised by the cantaloupe hatred. I can’t believe anyone wouldn’t like it fresh and ripe. The problem is that people often don’t let it ripen and it’s hard and lacking flavor.
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[quote name=melissa]I’m more surprised by the cantaloupe hatred. [/quote]Meh. Honey dew is the money melon.
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greens, reds, yellows, all of them? seriously? sauteed in olive oil. really? It’s gold jerry! gold!
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[quote name=Mish]Meh. Honey dew is the money melon.[/quote]
I hate all of the melon family – honeydew, muskmelon, watermelon, what have you.
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I love watermelon and honey dew, gladly would eat cantaloupe. I eat most fruits, save dried ones like raisins.
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[quote name=melissa]I’m more surprised by the cantaloupe hatred. I can’t believe anyone wouldn’t like it fresh and ripe. The problem is that people often don’t let it ripen and it’s hard and lacking flavor.[/quote]
I could do without that. Fruit has sugar, which is evil. Evil I say, except for ripe mango.
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[quote name=Berselius]I hate all of the melon family – honeydew, muskmelon, watermelon, what have you.[/quote]
An anti-melonite, I’ve never met your kind.
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I fixed the title of this post
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[quote name=Berselius]I fixed the title of this post[/quote]
is that Orson Welles?
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[quote name=Berselius]I fixed the title of this post[/quote]
(dying laughing)
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I think Z has gotten pretty lucky tonight.
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[quote name=Berselius]Fuck cantaloupes. They ruin 99% of fruit salads. I think bell peppers are the only vegetables I hate more (dying laughing)[/quote]You obviously haven’t had a good cantaloupe. Not like a good cantaloupe is the equivalent of not liking fun, you fun-sucker.
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[quote name=Berselius]I fixed the title of this post[/quote](dying laughing) well done
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[quote name=Berselius]I hate all of the melon family – honeydew, muskmelon, watermelon, what have you.[/quote]You’re worse than a fun-sucker.
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yes!!!!!!!!!!! another HR for Soriano.
OPPO
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[quote name=mb21]You obviously haven’t had a good cantaloupe. Not like a good cantaloupe is the equivalent of not liking fun, you fun-sucker.[/quote]
I’d disagree with you, but I pretty much said the exact same thing to Julie the other day with respect to pie crusts (dying laughing).
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[quote name=Berselius]I fixed the title of this post[/quote]Well done. I tried making a UV post about fish but firefox crashed so I gave up.
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[quote name=Mish]Well done. I tried making a UV post about fish but firefox crashed so I gave up.[/quote]quitter.
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9th HR of the month
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Also,
Adolpho!
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[quote name=Berselius]I’d disagree with you, but I pretty much said the exact same thing to Julie the other day with respect to pie crusts (dying laughing).[/quote]
Ok, I can’t hold out any longer. Don’t you like anything?
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Jeez…Soriano is so lazy, that should’ve been a grand slam.
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[quote name=melissa]I’m more surprised by the cantaloupe hatred. I can’t believe anyone wouldn’t like it fresh and ripe. The problem is that people often don’t let it ripen and it’s hard and lacking flavor.[/quote]Yeah, if it’s not ripe it’s not any good. The same is true for most fruits though. Most people eat bananas several days before they’re ripe and they don’t even realize it.
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[quote name=melissa]Ok, I can’t hold out any longer. Don’t you like anything?[/quote]
(dying laughing), I fucking love pie. Julie is the pie hater.
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[quote name=Berselius]I’d disagree with you, but I pretty much said the exact same thing to Julie the other day with respect to pie crusts (dying laughing).[/quote]She doesn’t like pie crusts? Who doesn’t like pie crusts?
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[quote name=mb21]She doesn’t like pie crusts? Who doesn’t like pie crusts?[/quote]Terrorists.
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[quote name=mb21]Yeah, if it’s not ripe it’s not any good. The same is true for most fruits though. Most people eat bananas several days before they’re ripe and they don’t even realize it.[/quote]
I love me some green bananas
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[quote name=mb21]Yeah, if it’s not ripe it’s not any good. The same is true for most fruits though. Most people eat bananas several days before they’re ripe and they don’t even realize it.[/quote]
I generally don’t like a most watery fruits/vegetables, at least if they’re raw or close to it. I don’t think many people roast canaloupe though (dying laughing)
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[quote name=Mish]Terrorists.[/quote]Exactly.
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[quote name=mb21]She doesn’t like pie crusts? Who doesn’t like pie crusts?[/quote]
folks with diabeetus?
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[quote name=mb21]She doesn’t like pie crusts? Who doesn’t like pie crusts?[/quote]
FWIW, replacement level pie crust is pretty terrible. And even a lot of homemade pie crusts are way too dry. I feel like I need a glass of water after eating anything made with my mom’s secret family pie crust.
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[quote name=Horny Goat]folks with diabeetus?[/quote]
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[quote name=Horny Goat]folks with diabeetus?[/quote]Paula Dean has diabetes.
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[quote name=Berselius]I generally don’t like a most watery fruits/vegetables, at least if they’re raw or close to it. I don’t think many people roast canaloupe though (dying laughing)[/quote]
maybe you should roast your fruit/veggies, b. (dying laughing)
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[quote name=Horny Goat]maybe you should roast your fruit/veggies, b. (dying laughing)[/quote]
(dying laughing), I do. We eat tons of roasted squash.
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[quote name=Horny Goat]I love me some green bananas[/quote]Green bananas are better for you, but I eat fruit when I need a sugar fix. (dying laughing)
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[quote name=mb21]Green bananas are better for you, but I eat fruit when I need a sugar fix. (dying laughing)[/quote]
I actually like yucca
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[quote name=Berselius]I generally don’t like a most watery fruits/vegetables, at least if they’re raw or close to it. I don’t think many people roast canaloupe though (dying laughing)[/quote]Fruit and vegetables are primarily water. I think apples are about 85% water, strawberries and melons around 92% water.
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Alfonso Soriano has an ISO > OBP.
MishQuote Reply
It’s hard to get good melons in Kansas. There’s about a week where you can get Muscatine melons here, but most of the rest are a waste.
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[quote name=mb21]Fruit and vegetables are primarily water. I think apples are about 85% water, strawberries and melons around 92% water.[/quote]
Yeah, I just mean particularly watery ones (dying laughing). Stuff like cantaloupe or watermelon or cucumbers taste like they were soaked in rancid water or something to me. On a related note I hate restaurants that put cucumbers in their water without asking.
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[quote name=Mish]Alfonso Soriano has an ISO > OBP.[/quote]
That takes some mad skill.
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I’m excited for peach season to be starting soon here. I’m going to make a shit ton of peach pies.
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[quote name=Berselius]Yeah, I just mean particularly watery ones (dying laughing). Stuff like cantaloupe or watermelon or cucumbers taste like they were soaked in rancid water or something to me. On a related note I hate restaurants that put cucumbers in their water without asking.[/quote]To get rid of the water in a cucumber put a little salt on it. Toss it in a bowl a few times and let it sit for about 5 minutes. Drain it. Add a little cracked pepper and toss again. Snack time. (dying laughing)
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[quote name=Berselius]FWIW, replacement level pie crust is pretty terrible. And even a lot of homemade pie crusts are way too dry. I feel like I need a glass of water after eating anything made with my mom’s secret family pie crust.[/quote]
If you know good homemade pie crust, you really can’t settle for less. Most pie crust is awful.
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[quote name=Berselius]I’m excited for peach season to be starting soon here. I’m going to make a shit ton of peach pies.[/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sfk3PGQDg
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[quote name=melissa]If you know good homemade pie crust, you really can’t settle for less. Most pie crust is awful.[/quote]
It’s so fucking easy. I don’t even need the recipe any more. Stick of butter, cup of flour, a little salt + food processor = WIN.
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[quote name=Berselius] On a related note I hate restaurants that put cucumbers in their water without asking.[/quote]
TGIFridays, is the place for you!
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[quote name=Berselius]I’m excited for peach season to be starting soon here. I’m going to make a shit ton of peach pies.[/quote]That’s my second favorite dessert behind cheesecake. A good peach pie is awesome. Pecan pies kick ass too.
Does Julie just not like pies or just pie crust in general?
mb21Quote Reply
Spurs (NBA) ———> watch the rest of the playoffs at home
MishQuote Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ6e9siQyrY&feature=related
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[quote name=mb21]That’s my second favorite dessert behind cheesecake. A good peach pie is awesome. Pecan pies kick ass too.
Does Julie just not like pies or just pie crust in general?[/quote]
She hates pie crust and hot fruit.
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Darwin Barney just missed one.
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That would have been a HR on the moon
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Fife!
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[quote name=Berselius]That would have been a HR on the moon[/quote]
maybe even a phone booth
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[quote name=Berselius]It’s so fucking easy. I don’t even need the recipe any more. Stick of butter, cup of flour, a little salt + food processor = WIN.[/quote]Pie crust is like pound cake. If you’ve even looked at a recipe you will forever remember it.
mb21Quote Reply
Ruh roh…Castro got hit in the wrist!
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fuck, Castro hit on the finger but looks OK
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[quote name=mb21]That’s my second favorite dessert behind cheesecake. A good peach pie is awesome. Pecan pies kick ass too.
[/quote]
We had peach-blueberry pies at our wedding. So good.
Pecan pie is one of my favorites too (pecans are by far my favorite nut) but it’s something I always fucked up at making. My custard is always too runny and or bubbles over and burns. My wife’s not a huge fan so it’s not something I’ve tried to make in a few years.
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Offense decided to show up late.
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I love cheesecake but it’s way too rich. I can never finish a slice.
I don’t like most cake frostings but I could eat a fucking bowl of cream cheese frosting.
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[quote name=Berselius]I love cheesecake but it’s way too rich. I can never finish a slice.
I don’t like most cake frostings but I could eat a fucking bowl of cream cheese frosting.[/quote]
That sounds awesome.
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they just replayed Soriano’s HR off shilling in 2001 game 7
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[quote name=Berselius]I love cheesecake but it’s way too rich. I can never finish a slice.
I don’t like most cake frostings but I could eat a fucking bowl of cream cheese frosting.[/quote]I love the rich desserts. Flourless chocolate is another one of my favorites. With raspberry sauce and white chocolate ice cream topped with a chiffonade mint.
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[quote name=mb21]I love the rich desserts. Flourless chocolate is another one of my favorites. With raspberry sauce and white chocolate ice cream topped with a chiffonade mint.[/quote]
Dammit mb, now I want to go cook some stuff and it’s too damn late (dying laughing)
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I gave up dessert like 15 years ago. Haven’t had ice cream, cookies, pie, cake, candy bars, anything, in about 15 years. I’m serious. Probably why I’m still alive (dying laughing)
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[quote name=Horny Goat]they just replayed Soriano’s HR off shilling in 2001 game 7[/quote]
That game was great. Couldn’t believe that Rivera could blow a save.
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[quote name=Berselius]Dammit mb, now I want to go cook some stuff and it’s too damn late (dying laughing)[/quote]You want to know what’s funny? Thinking about desserts has me thinking about butternut squash soup. (dying laughing) I must have had that soup sometime around when I had flourless chocolate cake or the white chocolate ice cream. Doesn’t matter though. I love the soup.
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[quote name=Rice Cube]That game was great. Couldn’t believe that Rivera could blow a save.[/quote]
It sucked. I was at game 5 at yankee stadium and was so wishing they would win it.
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[quote name=Horny Goat]I gave up dessert like 15 years ago. Haven’t had ice cream, cookies, pie, cake, candy bars, anything, in about 15 years. I’m serious. Probably why I’m still alive (dying laughing)[/quote]You’ve had some health issues, haven’t you? It is probably best that you stay away from that stuff.
mb21Quote Reply
Wow Kosuke.
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[quote name=mb21]You want to know what’s funny? Thinking about desserts has me thinking about butternut squash soup. (dying laughing) I must have had that soup sometime around when I had flourless chocolate cake or the white chocolate ice cream. Doesn’t matter though. I love the soup.[/quote]
That’s something I’ve wanted to make for awhile. Maybe I’ll dust off the cookbooks (dying laughing)
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Kosuke barely got there. jesus
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[quote name=Horny Goat]It sucked. I was at game 5 at yankee stadium and was so wishing they would win it.[/quote]
Must have been crazy when BH-Kim blew up again. I don’t recall if he pitched Game 5 but I remember him getting shelled in consecutive games.
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[quote name=Horny Goat]It sucked. I was at game 5 at yankee stadium and was so wishing they would win it.[/quote]I was thinking about Game 7 earlier this afternoon. That was probably the first and only time that most of the country was rooting for the Yankees.
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[quote name=Berselius]That’s something I’ve wanted to make for awhile. Maybe I’ll dust off the cookbooks (dying laughing)[/quote]I can send you a recipe if you want.
mb21Quote Reply
Actually, I think I make Emeril’s recipe.
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[quote name=mb21]I can send you a recipe if you want.[/quote]
That would be awesome.
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http://www.emerils.com/recipe/8046/Roasted-Butternut-Squash-Soup
That’s basically what I make. I probably did steal that recipe, but I can’t remember for sure.
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I have Bittman’s book, there’s probably one in there. Maybe in the Trotter book too.
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[quote name=mb21]You’ve had some health issues, haven’t you? It is probably best that you stay away from that stuff.[/quote]
not really, just drank too much. It’s tapered off. I’m basically healthy. I’ve never had high blood sugar. High blood pressure, yes, but that goes down when I drop the weight. I’m back down to a healthy weight again.
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I haven’t made this recipe before, but it’s close enough to the one I used to make a lot: http://recipes.epicurean.com/recipe/16347/blue-cheese-and-apple-soup.html
Surprisingly good soup.
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I can’t believe AZ isn’t pinch hitting for Branyan here
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[quote name=Berselius]I have Bittman’s book, there’s probably one in there. Maybe in the Trotter book too.[/quote]I think you’re right about the Trotter book. I can picture the dish now that you mentioned it. If I wasn’t about to go to bed, I’d go grab that book.
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[quote name=Berselius]I can’t believe AZ isn’t pinch hitting for Branyan here[/quote]
Would’ve been a nice spot for Hank White.
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[quote name=Rice Cube]Would’ve been a nice spot for Hank White.[/quote]
Or Roberts, but nice strikeout by Marshall to make that moot.
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[quote name=mb21]I was thinking about Game 7 earlier this afternoon. That was probably the first and only time that most of the country was rooting for the Yankees.[/quote]
it was awesome. after the game all the fans were high-fiving every single cop and security person in yankee stadium while Sinatra’s “New York” was playing on the PA. Never experienced anything like it. The whole stadium was shaking after than HR too, and after Soriano’s game winning single. goose bumps.
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Now I’m hungry for soup.
AndCountingQuote Reply
Fixed the title again. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
I’ll be making soup tomorrow, AC.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]it was awesome. after the game all the fans were high-fiving every single cop and security person in yankee stadium while Sinatra’s “New York” was playing on the PA. Never experienced anything like it. The whole stadium was shaking after than HR too, and after Soriano’s game winning single. goose bumps.[/quote]Still can’t believe that game.
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[quote name=AndCounting]Now I’m hungry for soup.[/quote]
a nice bowl of mulligatawny would hit the spot.
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[quote name=Colin Wyers]Sean Marshall’s a nice pitcher to have, but when your team is rolling out James Russell as a starter using him in short relief is galling.[/quote]
I can’t believe this never crossed my mind
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Kosuke’s April powers are fading….
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[quote name=Rice Cube]Kosuke’s April powers are fading….[/quote]
He’ll probably pick it up tomorrow, one more day of official April before extended April hits.
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[quote name=Rice Cube]Kosuke’s April powers are fading….[/quote]We’re not even to April 50th yet.
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[quote name=mb21]Still can’t believe that game.[/quote]
and game 4 when Tino did the same thing. then Jeter ended it in extras with a HR. Man, that was an exciting time to be in NY, but sad too. you could still smell the stench of ground zero. the weather was unseasonably warm for late Oct/early Nov. We were having dinner at outside cafes at night. Surreal.
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10 years ago already. damn.
RIP
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Marmol is evil.
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fuck yeah Marmol
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I’ve never eaten at white castle (dying laughing)
cubs win
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eat shit Kaplan!
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[quote name=Horny Goat]I’ve never eaten at white castle (dying laughing)
cubs win[/quote]
HG win
melissaQuote Reply
I’m tempted to “dine” at white castle just once…
naw
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[quote name=melissa]HG win[/quote]
probably because we don’t have one here (dying laughing)
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If you do, don’t get the regular sliders…get the chicken rings instead. White Castle burgers are fucking nasty.
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Cubs don’t lose.
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Nothing is better than a good demi-glace. Seriously. Nothing.
mb21 out, fuckfaces!
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[quote name=Rice Cube]If you do, don’t get the regular sliders…get the chicken rings instead. White Castle burgers are fucking nasty.[/quote]Dude, take that back. White Castle burgers are awesome. The chicken rings are shit.
The important thing at White Castle, though, is not to mix foods. Don’t eat a slider and the chicken. Don’t have a slider and the fish. you mix them up, you get lethal gas.
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[quote name=mb21]Nothing is better than a good demi-glace. Seriously. Nothing.
mb21 out, fuckfaces![/quote]
yeah, get lost frenchie
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[quote name=AndCounting]Dude, take that back. White Castle burgers are awesome. The chicken rings are shit.
The important thing at White Castle, though, is not to mix foods. Don’t eat a slider and the chicken. Don’t have a slider and the fish. you mix them up, you get lethal gas.[/quote]
I like the jalapeno slider. The regular ones are too bland and gross. But the chicken rings are yummy.
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[quote name=Rice Cube]If you do, don’t get the regular sliders…get the chicken rings instead. White Castle burgers are fucking nasty.[/quote]
Correct
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[quote name=AndCounting]Dude, take that back. White Castle burgers are awesome. The chicken rings are shit.
The important thing at White Castle, though, is not to mix foods. Don’t eat a slider and the chicken. Don’t have a slider and the fish. you mix them up, you get lethal gas.[/quote]
they don’t call ’em sliders for nothing
Horny GoatQuote Reply
I still regret not going to In n out when I was on the west coast several times. I blame my vegetarian friends who wouldnt take me there.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]I still regret not going to In n out when I was on the west coast several times. I blame my vegetarian friends who wouldnt take me there.[/quote]
They are fail. In-N-Out is must-have food.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I’m really glad Z was able to keep it together and keep the team in the game tonight. Not a bad outing after that stormy first.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]I still regret not going to In n out when I was on the west coast several times. I blame my vegetarian friends who wouldnt take me there.[/quote]
I went to a fantastic vegan chain place when I was at UCLA last year. Can’t remember the name of it but it was fucking amazing.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I went to a fantastic vegan chain place when I was at UCLA last year. Can’t remember the name of it but it was fucking amazing.[/quote]
you’re in Austin now right? you been to Juan in a million?
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]you’re in Austin now right? you been to Juan in a million?[/quote]
Nah, though Ryno recommended it. It’s not near my house and I don’t car commute.
BerseliusQuote Reply
what a great game for Z and Soriano. Latin faction action! (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
most exciting player indeed
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcides-escobars-magnified-incompetence/
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Horny Goat]what a great game for Z and Soriano. Latin faction action! (dying laughing)[/quote]
Don’t forget Soto! (Hope he breaks out of his slump soon)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Don’t forget Soto! (Hope he breaks out of his slump soon)[/quote]
correct
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Nah, though Ryno recommended it. It’s not near my house and I don’t car commute.[/quote]
here we go again..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH95UTtbmr8
Horny GoatQuote Reply
That one squinty white guy did hit a triple though. So there’s diversity at work.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Tried something else:
http://obstructedview.net/unobstructed-views/mlb/derrek-lee-talks-about-cubs-fans.html
I tried looking for the “help” stuff but couldn’t find anything. Mostly I just wanted to figure out how to set up quote boxes and hyperlinks. Feel free to re-edit the format. Interesting interview though.
Also tried to insert multiple tags, but I don’t know how to use the editor correctly and it made it into an amalgam tag.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
D-Lee wasn’t too specific though was he, RC. I know other Cub players in the past have gotten racist mail when Dusty was there, and we haven’t heard about it since. I wonder how many other teams get it and to what extent.
Horny GoatQuote Reply
Soriano has a .269 OBP and .584 SLG (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]If you do, don’t get the regular sliders…get the chicken rings instead. White Castle burgers are fucking nasty.[/quote]
Amusing, but wrong.
Hector VillanuevaQuote Reply
Hobbiton has obviously received its marching orders from Former Playgirl Mode3l Central: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0430-bits-cubs-diamondbacks-ch20110429,0,7150045.story
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Hobbiton has obviously received its marching orders from Former Playgirl Mode3l Central: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0430-bits-cubs-diamondbacks-ch20110429,0,7150045.story%5B/quote%5DBefore this week’s chatter, I’ve heard some talk about Castro eventually moving to 3B. I think from Moreland, and from some other team’s announcer. WTF? The guy is a potentially great shortstop who just needs seasoning. You don’t give up on that shit in less than one year.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Bruce Miles ——–> Paul Sullivan
http://oneminutecubs.blogspot.com/2011/04/so-whats-with-exs-exes-whats-plural-of.html
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban Kid]Before this week’s chatter, I’ve heard some talk about Castro eventually moving to 3B. I think from Moreland, and from some other team’s announcer. WTF? The guy is a potentially great shortstop who just needs seasoning. You don’t give up on that shit in less than one year unless you’re a retarded organization like the Cubs.[/quote]
It’s kind of like that.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Greinke —> Wednesday?
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/30/zack-greinke-could-make-his-brewers-debut-wednesday/
Rice CubeQuote Reply
mb – can we do polls at UV? My “Is fish a meat?” thread would have been better served with a poll.
MishQuote Reply
Yeah, maybe Soriano should be batting ahead of Byrd, maybe. Gonna have to ponder that…see what happens…
Just going by wOBA though, that OBP is really bad.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]mb – can we do polls at UV? My “Is fish a meat?” thread would have been better served with a poll.[/quote]I’m not sure. Let me look into it today. In the meantime, I can set one up and send you the code to embed it. Let me know.
mb21Quote Reply
It’s not that big of a deal – it would have been more fun at the time, but now it’d just be a funsucker.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]It’s kind of like that.[/quote]Well, at least Quade (and presumably Hendry — who has been very invisible this season by the way) isn’t thinking that way yet.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Bruce Miles ——–> Paul Sullivan
http://oneminutecubs.blogspot.com/2011/04/so-whats-with-exs-exes-whats-plural-of.html%5B/quote%5D
That was a strange exchange when it happened. But I can’t judge too much since I once helped set off a blog war by taking offense to a single tweet.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]That was a strange exchange when it happened. But I can’t judge too much since I once helped set off a blog war by taking offense to a single tweet.[/quote]I just think it’s silly to block someone from your twitter feed. Especially for a journalist. I’m not a huge fan of the site I linked and rarely check it out, but I actually agree with him here. The only reason you’d refer to McGehee as a former Cub is to start shit. It wouldn’t be much different than constantly referring to Johan Santana as a former Astro or Jeff Bagwell as a former Red Sox.
mb21Quote Reply
Miles was obviously trying to draw attention to the fact that McGehee was given away by the Cubs sine they didn’t protect him on their roster. It ignores the fact that not only did the Cubs have Ramirez at 3rd base, but also that McGehee wasn’t very good at the time. Through the age of 25 in the minors he had a career .740 OPS. Not bad, but there was no way anybody could expect he’d do has in the big leagues. If the Cubs kept McGehee and traded Ramirez while McGehee aged as you’d expect, we’d hear all about how the Cubs traded Ramirez so they could play this shitty 3rd baseman.
Maybe I’m nitpicking, but that stuff annoys me.
mb21Quote Reply
I agree, but trying to look at it from Miles’ perspective since he has earned the benefit of the doubt, I can see where he might be coming from. As a beat writer covering the Cubs for decades, he probably first met McGeehee when he was first signed/drafted in 2003, or the following spring. He probably knew him as a Cub during four or five spring trainings, and not just in September 2008.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
But I agree it’s probably said with the intent to stir a little shit, which is surprising from Bruce.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban Kid]I agree, but trying to look at it from Miles’ perspective since he has earned the benefit of the doubt, I can see where he might be coming from. As a beat writer covering the Cubs for decades, he probably first met McGeehee when he was first signed/drafted in 2003, or the following spring. He probably knew him as a Cub during four or five spring trainings, and not just in September 2008.[/quote]
I didn’t get the sense that Bruce was trying to sensationalize the tragedy of losing Casey McGehee, and while it may be a bit of a reach to call him an ex-Cub, as SK mentions, he was a part of the organization for years.
I thought it was a slight over-reaction on OMC’s part, and I’m not 100% sure why Bruce blocked him over one reactionary tweet, but that’s how some folks roll on Twitter. I get called an idiot pretty much every day on Twitter, so I can imagine Bruce and the other beat guys get it way worse.
To Steve Rosenbloom’s credit, he’s never blocked me and I give him more crap on Twitter than anyone else besides Jose Canseco.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Bruce Miles ——–> Paul Sullivan
http://oneminutecubs.blogspot.com/2011/04/so-whats-with-exs-exes-whats-plural-of.html%5B/quote%5DOoh, look who commented on that post!
GBTSQuote Reply
I’ll take your (SK and 424) words for it. It just seem Sullivanish of Miles do block someone over something silly like that.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Ooh, look who commented on that post![/quote]So which of you guys is Dick Cheese then?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I’ll take your (SK and 424) words for it. It just seem Sullivanish of Miles do block someone over something silly like that.[/quote]
I seem to remember OMC calling out Miles on something before this incident. I could be wrong and it isn’t something I have time to look up, but I don’t think this was an isolated incident.
I’m going to go write a whole long post defending my GOOD FRIEND Bruce Miles now…
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]So which of you guys is Dick Cheese then?[/quote]
Bruce Miles.
Aisle424Quote Reply
fontenot—–>starting ss
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]Ex-Cub fontenot—–>starting ss[/quote]
Fixed.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Panda —–> hand surgery, out 4-6 weeks
Aisle424Quote Reply
I’m not sure who Panda is, but it’s not Castro is it?
mb21Quote Reply
Nevermind. Pablo Sandoval. I was thinking Cubs and I remembered Castro got hit on the hand last night. Then I started to think there was literally no reason to watch this team for the next 4-6 weeks.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Nevermind. Pablo Sandoval. I was thinking Cubs and I remembered Castro got hit on the hand last night. Then I started to think there was literally no reason to watch this team for the next 4-6 weeks.[/quote]
Oh holy hell, that would be the worst thing every.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Aisle 424 out to walk around SF, fuckfaces.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Interesting tweet from K law last night
sign me the fuck up
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
I really want Trevor Bauer or Sonny Gray though
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Nevermind. Pablo Sandoval. I was thinking Cubs and I remembered Castro got hit on the hand last night. Then I started to think there was literally no reason to watch this team for the next 4-6 weeks.[/quote]Thumbs down for even making me think of this scenario.
GBTSQuote Reply
bairz on clock. I hope they take a south carolina player
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Interesting tweet from K law last night
sign me the fuck up[/quote]
is he an of or a p?
GWQuote Reply
bairz take QB from idaho. Facepalm
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]is he an of or a p?[/quote]
CF who is going to be expensive as fuck since he has a football scholarship to play QB at nebraska.
Really super toolsy. KLAW has him #3 overall on his board
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]is he an of or a p?[/quote]QB
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]QB[/quote]
done deal, sealed
GWQuote Reply
Bubba Starling is from Kansas, which isn’t exactly a hot bed for baseball talent. If they do draft him I hope they do so knowing he’s not going to sign. I’m tired of signing kids from bumfucknowhere.
mb21Quote Reply
bairz are angering me
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]done deal, sealed[/quote]They’ll need someone to play catch with Samardzija and Szczur in spring training.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Bubba Starling is from Kansas, which isn’t exactly a hot bed for baseball talent. If they do draft him I hope they do so knowing he’s not going to sign. I’m tired of signing kids from bumfucknowhere.[/quote]
Wait what?!?!?!?!?!?
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
I’d rather the Cubs draft someone else. Don’t really care who. I’m sick of signing football players. I’m equally sick of signing kids from parts of the world with little or no baseball talent.
mb21Quote Reply
Went to the debacle the other night… the only good part of the game was proceeded by this:
Me: This guy sucks. He shouldn’t be on an MLB roster. He can’t hit for shit.
My brother: Yeah, but some guys make up for that defensively.
Me: No one is that good on defense.
Koyieeeeee: CRACK!!!!!
shawndgoldmanQuote Reply
[quote name=shawndgoldman]Went to the debacle the other night… the only good part of the game was proceeded by this:
Me: This guy sucks. He shouldn’t be on an MLB roster. He can’t hit for shit.
My brother: Yeah, but some guys make up for that defensively.
Me: No one is that good on defense.
Koyieeeeee: CRACK!!!!
Between this and MB’s “There’s Nothing Wrong with Dempster” post, I feel this blog is now as re-discredited as the old one.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Why is Buster Posey playing 1b?
Suburban kidQuote Reply
SF announcers kind of pissed that Sanchez forgot to cover first base.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Also, I don’t blame Miles for blocking that guy on Twitter. The guy insulted him with a personal attack. I’m pretty sure Sullivan blocked people just for disagreeing with him and/or supporting Bradley.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=shawndgoldman]Went to the debacle the other night… the only good part of the game was proceeded by this:
Me: This guy sucks. He shouldn’t be on an MLB roster. He can’t hit for shit.
My brother: Yeah, but some guys make up for that defensively.
Me: No one is that good on defense.
Koyieeeeee: CRACK!!!! SK mentioned my recent Dempster post and timing, but nothing beats the Dodgers game from a couple years ago. An hour before the game I say they can’t keep hitting singles and continue to win. They shut me right up.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban Kid]Also, I don’t blame Miles for blocking that guy on Twitter. The guy insulted him with a personal attack. I’m pretty sure Sullivan blocked people just for disagreeing with him and/or supporting Bradley.[/quote]If a journalist blocks ever person who personally attacks him he’ll block about half the people who try to follow him. I’ve been attacked several times on twitter and I don’t even use the thing that often. I’m not about to block someone because they insulted me. I’m a big boy. I know whatever I write online is being read by others and that there are going to be people who disagree and/or think I’m an idiot.
mb21Quote Reply
New goal: try and get blocked from mb’s twitter feed.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]If a journalist blocks ever person who personally attacks him he’ll block about half the people who try to follow him. I’ve been attacked several times on twitter and I don’t even use the thing that often. I’m not about to block someone because they insulted me. I’m a big boy. I know whatever I write online is being read by others and that there are going to be people who disagree and/or think I’m an idiot.[/quote]Yeah, but you are coming at it from the world of vile douche tourneys and blog wars. To you and A424, twitter probably isn’t any different than a message board.
I don’t really tweet, but I could see how some people might see it more like email or facebook. Like if you send an attack their way, it comes straight to them, rather than just being posted on a third party location. I don’t know if this makes sense, just a thought.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Pena —————–> still benched
Soriano —————> promoted to 6th
Byrd —————–> demoted to 7th hole
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban Kid]Yeah, but you are coming at it from the world of vile douche tourneys and blog wars. To you and A424, twitter probably isn’t any different than a message board.
I don’t really tweet, but I could see how some people might see it more like email or facebook. Like if you send an attack their way, it comes straight to them, rather than just being posted on a third party location. I don’t know if this makes sense, just a thought.[/quote]What about all the mail (traditional mail) that Bruce has gotten that has called him an idiot, retard, fuckface, and so on and so forth? Did he cancel their subscription? I don’t think you should ever have to feel good about the insults, but how many journalists have said a player has to get used to them and learn to deal with it? How many times has Bruce said it?
Like I said, maybe I’m making more of this than needs to be made. Just seems petty to me.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban Kid]Pena —————–> still benched
Soriano —————> promoted to 6th
Byrd —————–> demoted to 7th hole[/quote]Pena won’t be in Chicago all season.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]What about all the mail (traditional mail) that Bruce has gotten that has called him an idiot, retard, fuckface, and so on and so forth? Did he cancel their subscription? [/quote]No, I’m sure all he did is delete them and maybe add the senders to his spam filter.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Pena won’t be in Chicago all season.[/quote]Yeah, they should trade him now while his value is really high.
fang2415Quote Reply
How about this for a roster move: trade Pena to the Yankees for Silva so they can put him back in the rotation. Two birds with one stone!
fang2415Quote Reply
David Kaplan was not pleased with my tweet in response to moving Castro to SS
Out of 2.5 million people im chicago why do we have three morons covering them in @bleedcubbieblue @pwsullivan and @thekapman
I received a direct message
thekapman
Then you don’t need to follow me any longer. Why don’t u try to do the job?
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban Kid]No, I’m sure all he did is delete them and maybe add the senders to his spam filter.[/quote]I was talking about real, actual mail. (dying laughing) But yeah, all he’d do is throw it away, but the point is that he couldn’t cancel their subscription. I don’t know, SK. Seems a journalist should have thicker skin than that. I should know better. Sports journalists are generally pretty bad at their jobs. I think Miles is better than Sullivan, but that’s like being the tallest midget. It’s not really a compliment to say someone is better than Sullivan.
The only time I’ll read what a beat writer has to say about the Cubs or any other baseball team is if it’s actual news and then I only read what happened and the quotes. I’ll also occasionally read post-games on cubs.com. Other than the breaking news and quotes, there isn’t one Cubs beat writer’s opinion I care at all about. I don’t follow any of them on twitter.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]How about this for a roster move: trade Pena to the Yankees for Silva so they can put him back in the rotation. Two birds with one stone![/quote]Could they then trade Carlos Pena and Alfonso Soriano for Carlos Gonzalez? (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]David Kaplan was not pleased with my tweet in response to moving Castro to SS
Out of 2.5 million people im chicago why do we have three morons covering them in @bleedcubbieblue @pwsullivan and @thekapman
I received a direct message
thekapman
Then you don’t need to follow me any longer. Why don’t u try to do the job?[/quote]
(dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
MB i think you might be off on Bubba Starling. He isnt one of the football players that we normally take
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
hayden simpson gave up back to back jacks today
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]MB i think you might be off on Bubba Starling. He isnt one of the football players that we normally take[/quote]
Starling has always been considered a better baseball prospect than football prospect. He grew up playing baseball and considers it his first sport. He’s considered to be more polished as a baseball player than a football player. Something that couldn’t be said of Szczur or Shark.
Some guys that played both football and baseball have turned into pretty good players. Not sure why the fact that Starling is also a highly-touted football player should discredit his baseball playing abilities.
Hector VillanuevaQuote Reply
It doesn’t discredit his ability to play baseball at a high level, but when you factor in the commitment to Nebraska you’re looking at spending more money than you probably should for a high school pitcher. Then consider that whatever numbers he’s put up here in Kansas was against competition that’s not exactly up to par with that of California, Texas, and every other southern state. Seriously, the equivalent high school talent in this region is to that of 13 to 15 year olds in areas that are rich in baseball talent in this country.
It’s like Mark Pawelek. He put up silly numbers, but it was in Utah. That was another wasted top pick. I swear, the Cubs find out where the talent is and go elsewhere.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Hector Villanueva ]Starling has always been considered a better baseball prospect than football prospect. He grew up playing baseball and considers it his first sport. He’s considered to be more polished as a baseball player than a football player. Something that couldn’t be said of Szczur or Shark.
Some guys that played both football and baseball have turned into pretty good players. Not sure why the fact that Starling is also a highly-touted football player should discredit his baseball playing abilities.[/quote]
i agree wih this analysis. He is extremely high on most peoples boards. If he got to us at 9 that would be incredible value. i mean i still want one of the college pitchers. But still this kid is pretty universally regarded
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
when is bryce harper going to stop wearing the eye black?
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
So was Josh Vitters. Baseball America said he was the best high school player in the draft. Better than Moustakas.
It’s also like last year now that I think about it. Cubs learn college pitchers are the way to go so they go to the worst fucking division in college baseball. It’s unbelievable how they avoid talent.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It doesn’t discredit his ability to play baseball at a high level, but when you factor in the commitment to Nebraska you’re looking at spending more money than you probably should for a high school pitcher. Then consider that whatever numbers he’s put up here in Kansas was against competition that’s not exactly up to par with that of California, Texas, and every other southern state. Seriously, the equivalent high school talent in this region is to that of 13 to 15 year olds in areas that are rich in baseball talent in this country.
It’s like Mark Pawelek. He put up silly numbers, but it was in Utah. That was another wasted top pick. I swear, the Cubs find out where the talent is and go elsewhere.[/quote]
Starling is projected by most to be an OF. Also it isn’t like he doesn’t play against players outside of Kansas in all-star games and what-not.
And for guys like Mark Pawalek, you also have guys like Joe Mauer. Is there any data to suggest that there is a higher hit-rate on 1st round picks from baseball hotbeds?
Hector VillanuevaQuote Reply
Hey, do any of you know how the blackout restrictions for MLB.tv work? Can I watch a Cubs game on MLB.tv in Chicago, or do they black all of them out so you have to get CSN or whatever?
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]So was Josh Vitters. Baseball America said he was the best high school player in the draft. Better than Moustakas.
It’s also like last year now that I think about it. Cubs learn college pitchers are the way to go so they go to the worst fucking division in college baseball. It’s unbelievable how they avoid talent.[/quote]
I don’t get your point here. Last year we all bitched because nobody had Simpson as a first rounder. Now we don’t care that a player is universally highly regarded?
I think the point about it being more costly to sign him because he has the leverage of the Nebraska scholarship is a fair one. But, if the kid wants to play baseball (which by most accounts he does) he will sign.
Starling is not my first choice, but I don’t think he would be a bad pick.
Hector VillanuevaQuote Reply
I’m guessing the hit rate is similar since so many players are taken from the areas rich in talent. Just a guess.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]Hey, do any of you know how the blackout restrictions for MLB.tv work? Can I watch a Cubs game on MLB.tv in Chicago, or do they black all of them out so you have to get CSN or whatever?[/quote]I think they black them out, but I’m not sure.
mb21Quote Reply
From BA
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I’m guessing the hit rate is similar since so many players are taken from the areas rich in talent. Just a guess.[/quote]
That would be my guess as well. So, I don’t see the problem with taking a once-in-a-decade talent from a place like Kansas or Minnesota.
Hector VillanuevaQuote Reply
Fair point. I’d stay away from him though.
I don’t think it matters much anyway. I’d bet if they do draft him it’s because he won’t sign for a slot bonus. Wasn’t it the Dbacks a couple years ago who drafted someone they knew they couldn’t sign in the first round?
mb21Quote Reply
Vitters is from cali
Monanez is from FL
Harvey FL
Pawelek UT
when it all boils down the 2002 drafts bungling has really set us behind
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Fair point. I’d stay away from him though.
I don’t think it matters much anyway. I’d bet if they do draft him it’s because he won’t sign for a slot bonus. Wasn’t it the Dbacks a couple years ago who drafted someone they knew they couldn’t sign in the first round?[/quote]
if we fucking punt this draft pick in a once in a life pool to get an amazing talent at #9 i am done. I think you are being overly cynical MB which might be justified. But i see no reason for the cubs to be hot for this kid take hima nd then say fuck it.
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
What I don’t get is the Cubs finally do it right in 2009 and take Brett Jackson with the 31st pick. A college hitter with tremendous patience and in that spot you know whoever you take is going to have some kind of issue (his was strikeouts). He could hit for power, average, play defense, get on base and had a good arm. He’s tearing up the minor leagues. College bats are easily the best choice in the draft. If you get lucky with a high school bat they may turn out to be superior, but it happens so rarely it’s not worth considering. Take another college bat.
mb21Quote Reply
TheCCO
RT @PWSullivan Quade sez 5th starter will be Russell Monday in LA unless there’s a call-up.
THey must be down on Jay Jackson.
Spot the other team 4 runs: Lets see what happens. I dont get it
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]What I don’t get is the Cubs finally do it right in 2009 and take Brett Jackson with the 31st pick. A college hitter with tremendous patience and in that spot you know whoever you take is going to have some kind of issue (his was strikeouts). He could hit for power, average, play defense, get on base and had a good arm. He’s tearing up the minor leagues. College bats are easily the best choice in the draft. If you get lucky with a high school bat they may turn out to be superior, but it happens so rarely it’s not worth considering. Take another college bat.[/quote]
College bats are pretty sucky this year. Its why i want one of the college pitchers or high schoolers
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]if we fucking punt this draft pick in a once in a life pool to get an amazing talent at #9 i am done. I think you are being overly cynical MB which might be justified. But i see no reason for the cubs to be hot for this kid take hima nd then say fuck it.[/quote]We don’t know they’re even hot for him. We’re going to hear 378 different names linked the Cubs over the next 4-5 weeks. We’ll hear 15 names on the morning of the draft. As we saw in 2006, 2008, 2009 and 2010, the Cubs with Tim Wilken rarely take anyone we were expecting. Vitters was the only one in his tenure that was often linked to the Cubs. Two of the top picks nobody even had in their top 150. My guess is that we’ll once again see the Cubs take someone that wasn’t linked to them. Probably someone ranked no higher than the 20s or 30s.
mb21Quote Reply
if they dont take one of the top 12 available people.. I will be done
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Brian Wilson’s Current Beard Status —————–> Scary
Suburban kidQuote Reply
my beef with kap continues
@thekapman Move the cubs best player to a less premium position: Lets see what happens! #smallsamplesize
thekapman
@jdfisch Huh?
jdfisch
@thekapman You know that epic over-reaction to Barneys hot start by moving our best player to a less premium position. #turribleideas
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Brian Wilson’s Current Pitching Status —————–> Bad Marmol
Suburban kidQuote Reply
the twitter war with kap continues
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
i really really really hate the media in chicago. Kaplan is dumb
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]i really really really hate the mainstream baseball media. Kaplan is dumb[/quote]
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Hector VillanuevaQuote Reply
James Russell ———————> still in possession of Quade’s naughty picture collection, gets fourth start on Monday
Suburban kidQuote Reply
i mean he just suggested that ryne sandberg moved off short and it made him more comfy and look what happened.
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]i mean he just suggested that ryne sandberg moved off short and it made him more comfy and look what happened.[/quote]You should inform him that Sandberg started at 3b, not SS, but that’s probably too stupid an argument to engage.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
bdc out fuckfaces
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
bubba seems like the type of pick I’d like them to make: top five talent(?), slips because of bonus demands
GWQuote Reply
If the Cubs actually decide to take a player in the 1st round that people have heard of, my money is on Jungmann. I’d be happy with that.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban Kid]James Russell ———————> still in possession of Quade’s naughty picture collection, gets fourth start on Monday[/quote]
Iowa must really need Jay Jackson for that early season push.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Game on…nobody around to watch Garza try to get a win?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I also expect the Cubs would use Starling as a pitcher if they did draft him. 95 mph fastball at that age.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Game on…nobody around to watch Garza try to get a win?[/quote]It already started?
mb21Quote Reply
Yeah…7:10 PM Central start time. Kosuke had a 7-pitch out and Barney flared out to right. Kennedy is throwing tons of strikes.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Damn…BABIP normalizing for Castro?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I just posted a new thread: http://obstructedview.net
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