Will Brohm stay or go?

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There’s been a huge question on the minds of every Cubs fan since the season ended, and I’m finally going to answer it once and for all:

Is Jeff Brohm going home to coach Louisville?

There are compelling reasons for him to stay and go. I’m here to break it down for us all.

Location

Purdue University is located in West Lafayette, Indiana (full disclosure: I am an alum of Purdue University, so I am not unbiased here). Purdue’s best asset is that it’s close to I-65, so it’s easy to leave. The Wabash River is nice if you enjoy smelly, disgusting water; we planted the wrong trees, so in fall the entire campus reeks of gingko, and the waste treatment plant provides a “pleasant” odor the other 9 months of the year. Seriously, West Lafayette is a secretly smelly campus. As far as night life, there’s a few bars and a movie theater. That’s about it. You can find fun, but you have to look. The campus itself is quickly becoming more and more beautiful; people’s opinion that Purdue is ugly was true 15 years ago but isn’t true anymore. It’s a nice campus.

The University of Louisville is in a highly underrated city. Louisville is pretty awesome; there’s a ton of bourbon, fourth street live! is a fun little place, and instead of a dirty river, you get a nice one. Jeff Brohm agrees – he lives in Louisville in the offseason. One of my closest friends lives in Louisville and had this to say: “A city most known for horse-racing and bourbon, Louisville has many of the advantages and amenities of a large city without the accompanying headaches; and perhaps due to its long-time lack of professional sports franchises, it is one of the largest college sports markets in the country, home to rabid fans and a bitter rivalry.”

Advantage – Louisville

Football Pedigree

Purdue was a horribLe program when DarreLL HazeLL was reLieved of his duties. Brohm took a team full of middle-MAC talent and won 7 games in his first year (including a bowl win) and won 6 games (pre-bowl) in his second year, including a 49-20 beatdown of Ohio State. This is a fancy way of saying that it doesn’t matter a single bit how good a program was before Brohm got here. He can take a 2-10 Louisville team to ACC championship contention just as easy as he can take Purdue to B1G championship contention.

Almost. Purdue is situated in a slightly better place, in the lesser of the two B1G divisions. Wisconsin (and Northwestern, to some extent) are the only real obstacles to winning the B1G West every year until something changes, and Wisconsin (in my opinion) is on the beginning of a slide into irrelevancy. The division is anyone’s for the taking. Meanwhile, Clemson is in Louisville’s division, as is Florida State. It’s going to be hard to consistently win that division.

Somewhat paradoxically, I think Brohm would have an easier time recruiting at Purdue than at Louisville. The reason: Brohm already recruits Kentucky well. He was able to get Rondale Moore to decommit from Texas to go to a team that plays in West Lafayette. He nabbed Milton Wright from many bigger and better teams that were on him heavily. Would he have landed Wandale Robinson if he was in Louisville instead of Purdue? Maybe, but not certainly. Purdue is in play for a lot of the talent in Kentucky, and figures to be for some time. Brohm is able to recruit in ACC territory from a B1G location (and recruit from that position of strength). Neither Indiana nor Kentucky is a football factory, so I’d default to Indiana being a better territory than Kentucky, recruiting-wise.

Advantage (slight) – Purdue

Expectations

Purdue would literally be happy with going 8-4 every year. We had a coach named Joe Tiller who coached for 12 years, never won 10 games in a season, and we built the man a statue. There are people who already want to build Jeff Brohm (13-12 in his Purdue career) one. The expectations literally could not be lower for a non-doormat Power 5 team.

Louisville ALREADY fired Jeff Brohm once, back when he was the offensive coordinator (in a move that was panned at the time – nobody remains from that decision in Louisville). Brohm is the favorite son of Louisville football, but that only matters right now and the season after he’s hired (if he’s hired). Just think about Tennessee football – it’s a program that was good like 20 years ago where everybody expects to win 11 games a year, and they riot when that never happens. Expectations at Louisville will be very high for Brohm – while I’m confident he could meet them, there is no doubt that he’d have a lot more pressure on his shoulders.

Advantage – Purdue

Facilities

Purdue just finished a huge renovation to their football facilities (their home facilities – Michigan will tell you the away facilities still suck). It’s one of the better facilities in the Big Ten. That said, Louisville is about to finish their own renovation, and their stadium itself is unquestionably better than Ross-Ade Stadium (one of the worst football stadiums in the Power 5 conferences). Purdue has an advantage here against many peer teams, but Louisville isn’t one of them.

Advantage – Louisville

Intangibles

Purdue loves Jeff Brohm. It’s hard to imagine a campus and a program more fully embracing somebody than Purdue has with him. It was a slam dunk hire from the minute he was announced. He’s the prototypical Purdue guy – quiet strength, no frills, principled, flashy offense (Purdue literally reinvented college football in the 90s with Drew Brees and basketball on turf). There’s no doubt that Purdue is a statue job if Jeff Brohm wants it.

Unfortunately, you can say the exact same about Louisville AND add the fact that it is home. He still lives there. His family went there, including his dad. He flies there all the time, which is a nice way of saying he’d rather just live there all the time. His heart is in Louisville, and that’s a powerful thing.

Advantage – Louisville

The National Football League

Jeff Brohm is an extremely competitive guy. The dude wouldn’t quit the NFL, even when the NFL wanted to quit him. He played for a half-dozen teams even though he barely started. He tried hanging on to the point where he played in the XFL! What I’m trying to say is that Jeff Brohm will seriously think about coaching in the NFL if those teams come calling (and they will come calling, believe you me).

He can more easily jump to the NFL from Purdue, and I’ll tell you why.

If Brohm leaves for Louisville, he has to stay for at least 4 years before he leaves unless he wants to be unwelcome there the rest of his life. Louisville will be his job whenever he wants it, if he ever wants it and it’s close to open. Meanwhile, he can feel like he accomplished something at Purdue in another year or two and leave with no hard feelings. Not a single soul will begrudge him if he leaves Purdue for Cleveland, while nearly everyone in Louisville will. When you happen to live in Louisville, that has to mean something.

Advantage – Purdue

Three Most Famous Alumni

Purdue – Neil Armstrong, Amelia Earhart, Drew Brees (we own the skies)

Louisville – Mitch McConnell, Gina Haspel, uhhh, Jeff Brohm (we’re screwed, aren’t we)

Advantage – Jeff Brohm attended the goddamn University Of Louisville

Conclusion

This is a tough decision. Brohm likes it here. We like him here. That said, the heart wants what the heart wants. It’s not coming down to money – I don’t think either team is going to lose this battle over money, they’ll both pay him up to top-10 in the country – so it’s really just a matter if Brohm thinks it’s time to come home (and if really DOES want to come home). I think he does, and I’ll hate to see him go.

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  1. Ryno

    Three Most Famous Alumni

    Purdue – Neil Armstrong, Amelia Earhart, Drew Brees (we own the skies)
    Louisville – Mitch McConnell, Gina Haspel, uhhh, Jeff Brohm (we’re screwed, aren’t we)

    I feel like you left out David Akers and Jay Gruden as part of a bit…

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  2. Ryno

    You forgot a section:

    Trouble

    Purdue – If he goes, there will be trouble.

    Louisville – If he stays there will be double.

    Advantage – Purdue

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  3. berselius

    Wisconsin (in my opinion) is on the beginning of a slide into irrelevancy

    Hey now, lucking into one season of a decent quarterback in 20 years and running the ball 50 times a game is the wave of the future, the rest of the football world just hasn’t caught up yet. Wake up, sheeple.

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  4. berselius

    Ryno: I think that’s probably OK if your RBs are Melvin Gordon, James White and Corey Clement.

    Not so much if they are John Clay, Montee Ball, PJ Hill, etc.

    Seeing White basically turn into a slot receiver for NE has been pretty bizarre.

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  5. Perkins

    Maybe the Cubs saw some red flags on Chavez that weren’t obvious from the results or my eyes, but it’s troubling that Theo’s season ending mantra of “everyone should be pissed off with how that ended; do better, fuckfaces” doesn’t seem to have translated into “make sure the roster is constructed to dominate the NL.”

    Chavez didn’t get a whole lot of money from the Rangers. And he was really good for the Cubs down the stretch. Seems like a guy they’d want to retain.

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  6. Smokestack Lightning

    Perkins,

    According to Jesse Rogers, the 2nd year is what got it done with Chavez. Maybe Theo wasn’t in the mood to overpay to get Chavez to take one year, nor was he all that excited to risk getting Duensing-ed again.

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  7. Smokestack Lightning

    Perkins,

    Yeah, when a pitcher doesn’t have youth on their side, and they are a non-elite reliever to begin with, I can understand the reticence to sign them longer than a season. Which is why I was a somewhat baffled by the Duensing re-up last year. Cubs already caught lightning in the bottle once for practically nothing. Why take on the additional risk considering the overall track record? Maybe this is Theo learning that lesson.

    At the same time, it would be nice to see the Cubs do something that belies the narrative that they’re broke and in chaos. Refusing to sign an affordable reliever who wanted to stay to a non-onerous contract doesn’t help.

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  8. dmick89

    andcounting,

    I don’t think it’s all that weird, but some of the things that they have done don’t give me a lot of hope that this team intends to do much (or more likely that they don’t have the money to do it).

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  9. Smokestack Lightning

    dmick89:
    Wasn’t Torreyes DFA’d by the Yankees? Why not take a chance and see if he clears waivers? It’s not like a big deal if some other team claims him.

    I hear Torreyes has elite spin rate on his throws to first, not to mention a scorching 23% hard-hit rate. A player like that comes around, you don’t wait, you overpay.

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  10. Ryno

    Baseball execs are baseball fans at heart, and they wonder, too, about where Bryce Harper and Manny Machado will sign. Most common guesses — informed speculation — that I've heard from folks within the game: Machado to the Phillies, Harper back to the Nationals.

    — Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) November 29, 2018

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  11. dmick89

    Ryno,

    Word is the Cubs’ frustrated front office will continue to explore all possibilities in an attempt to move some salary like Jason Heyward (obviously a longshot) or Tyler Chatwood to create some financial breathing room. Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer are boxed in by several different factors, but they won’t rest until they have exhausted every measure to create flexibility.

    It still pisses me off that the Cubs spent so much money on a horrible pitcher and then they acted surprised when they got horrible results. The results were predictable because Chatwood fucking sucks. If the Cubs hadn’t won the World Series in 2016 I’d have started a campaign to fire the entire front office after that move. Since they did win the WS in 2016, I figure I should give them at least one stupid mistake. That was it. Unfortunately, I still see no signs this front office knows how to dig themselves out of the hole they dug despite having a number of very talented players playing for little money.

    I’d have played for the Cubs for league minimum and been as productive as Chatwood. It boggles my mind that the Cubs gave a replacement level pitcher a multi-year deal and one that paid him nicely.

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  12. dmick89

    Ryno,

    Yeah, they have money to spend and talent to trade unlike the Cubs. I expect the Brewers will have a huge advantage over the Cubs once the offseason is over. I also expect the Cardinals to be in a better position than the Cubs (they might already be there).

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  13. andcounting

    The Chatwood contract essentially necessitated the Hammels contract, which means signing Tyler cost the Cubs $33 million in 2019. Now, if the Cubs have a rotation of Lester, Hendricks, Quintana, Darvish Hammels that turns out to be as good as that list of names looks, a mediocre offense with no splashy free-agent signings and just a not-dead-yet Rizzo, a mean-defying Javy, and a two-shouldered Kris Bryant could still be enough to dominate. But if a bunch of normal, predictable shit happens, next year will really suck.

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  14. andcounting

    andcounting,

    Which is to say that if spending $33 million on Tyler Chatwood and his replacement in the rotation stops the Cubs from signing anyone meaningful, it could still work out for one more year if everything miraculously goes well. It won’t, but it could.

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  15. Ryno

    Evan
    1:38 The general feeling among Cubs fans based on last season’s results and comments from Theo is that the cubs need to make serious changes. However, the team won 95 games despite a lost season from Kris Bryant and a underperforming offense. Do you think the level of concern is warranted or we are overreacting to an early playoff exit and a red hot Brewers team in the last month of the season?

    Keith Law
    1:39 I don’t think they need to make serious changes. They changed hitting coaches, which was probably needed. They retained Hamels, which was smart. I thought they should keep Chavez, whom Texas signed rather inexpensively. But they were one win away from leading the league, and if they had hit at all in the last two months of the season they would have won the division.

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  16. dmick89

    andcounting,

    Yeah, it’s not the kind of money that prohibits you from getting better, but as you mentioned, it pretty much required the Cubs go out and trade for Hamels last year. It also required they keep Hamels around so it cost the Cubs even more than Chatwood was being paid in money and in players given up for Hamels. Signing Chatwood was one of the dumbest deals I remember the Cubs giving out when it happened and it somehow turned out even worse than I imagined. If the Cubs aren’t able to trade Chatwood you have to wonder at what point will he be DFA’d next season. My guess is they get something for nothing this offseason, but I think there’s also a decent chance they just end up DFA’ing him by June or July. He and Russell both because who the fuck is going to trade for Russell?

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  17. BVS at lunch

    dmick89,

    I guess no one thinks the Chatwood for Cozart trade would work. Exact same money and contract length. Cubs could throw in Russell and $5M to make San Diego (Anaheim? Can’t remember who has Cozart at moment) bite. Maybe a low level RP comes back too.

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  18. BVS at lunch

    dmick89: who the fuck is going to trade for Russell?

    Seattle. They’ve never seen a trade they are afraid to make. Detroit–no one will be watching them next year, since everyone will still be celebrating legal weed. Marlins–ditto, except the weed. Reds–Marge Schott says so what, posthumously. Twins –part of the treatment for Florida-boy Russell will be hours of ice fishing without an ice house.

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  19. andcounting

    dmick89,

    I do think they will give Chatwood a few months to try to right the ship or find the strike zone or whatever. I guess we’ll find out tomorrow about Russell, but my hunch is that they will keep him. He’s a rotten trade chip, absolutely, but if he actually takes this opportunity to own up to His problems, he still has a chance to be a decent human being, and once he starts down that road, we can worry about whether he can be a decent shortstop. I think Theo will approach it that way, altruistically or not.

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  20. Ryno

    What if the Cubs don’t make any significant moves this offseason?

    Once again Alvin makes brilliant use of a subhead:

    It could happen.

    And then this confusing graf:

    Essentially, I think this says the Cubs aren’t going to make any big-splash free-agent signings or trades unless they get blown away with an offer, which I suppose could happen, but doesn’t seem likely. Remember, the question I’m posing here isn’t “Should the Cubs spend more money?” The answer to that is likely “Yes.” But they seem to have chosen a different route. So the question I’m asking is: “Will the Cubs spend more money?” And the answer to that is probably “No.”

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  21. dmick89

    andcounting: I guess we’ll find out tomorrow about Russell, but my hunch is that they will keep him.

    I’d be very surprised if the Cubs didn’t tender him a contract for next season. They almost have to even if they have any interest in trading him. They can then decide what to do the rest of the offseason, but yeah, my guess is they keep him around.

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  22. dmick89

    Ryno: Remember, the question I’m posing here isn’t “Should the Cubs spend more money?” The answer to that is likely “Yes.” But they seem to have chosen a different route. So the question I’m asking is: “Will the Cubs spend more money?” And the answer to that is probably “No.”

    That’s something Trump would say. It’s completely stupid and makes no sense.

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  23. andcounting

    BVS at lunch,

    (dying laughing) or even normal optimism. I don’t recall a comparable example of both player and team so thoroughly acknowledging dual responsibility of the player’s actions and reform and toward victim, victims in general, and society at large. I know its sincerity could be dubious, but I’m glad to see it, especially in the case of a player who kinda sucks right now and could be easily dismissed with faux piety instead.

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  24. Perkins

    Sounds like Billy Hamilton is getting non-tendered. Now’s the Cubs’ chance to pick him up so he doesn’t have a chance to kill them anymore.

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  25. mobile dave

    Fuck the Cubs.

    Seriously, if you’d been told two years ago that this team would spend the 2018 offseason serving up slice after piping hot slice of fuck pie, would you have believed it? I might have in December of 2013, but the pace at which this club is regressing back to Tribune Co. territory is stunning.

    Fuck the Rickettses. This isn’t even about the luxury tax. It’s just about colluding to not pay players as a matter of general principle.

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  26. dmick89

    mobile dave,

    My Dad asked me about a week ago if I’d read The Cubs Way (Verducci maybe?). I think he was wondering if it’s a book I might be interested in for Christmas. I told him I was waiting for the sequel about how quickly the Cubs were run into the ground after winning it all.

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  27. dmick89

    I really do find it troubling how quickly this organization has started to turn to shit. I know it’s easy to say we still have 2016, but 2016 was two years ago.

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  28. mobile dave

    Rizzo the Rat,

    I mean, I get it. It’s been a good run. It’s just shitty that this club has had the chance to shove its boot up the ass of the National League and chosen to just let its window gently close.

    They should be the 90s/00s Yankees, not…this. They have the resources and a core still largely near-ish it’s prime.

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  29. dmick89

    mobile dave,

    This. I don’t mean to complain about the recent stretch the Cubs have been on. It just irritates me that this team can’t be expected to dominate their division year in and year out. It shouldn’t be that hard. In the division the Cubs are in, the Cubs have a huge financial advantage.

    It remains to be seen what exactly happens of this stretch. I’ll admit that I’m more pessimistic that I probably should be considering they won 95 games and did so with multiple injuries and even when KB was healthy he wasn’t the same. A hit here or there early in the season or in the final couple months and the Cubs win the division. Maybe the outlook is a little brighter. Maybe the front office or ownership is willing to invest a little more money in the offseason. Then again, if we’re going to play that game I’m sure a healthy Nelson for the Brewers helps even it back up and I’m sure there’s a stretch where we could play the “a hit here or there” game for them.

    I should maybe give the Cubs a chance in 2019 to see how it goes, but there’s no denying that the awesome core talent that we thought we had in 2015 is a lot less impressive than we initially thought. That sucks because the Cubs have next to nothing coming up in the minors.

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  30. BVS

    andcounting:
    Smokestack Lightning,

    Ok, at this point I have no idea who’s kidding.

    Me neither. I think maybe Dave had a little too much eggnog at the company Christmas party where the boss once again took credit for his staff’s work while throwing them under the bus. Either that or he’s really pissed there wasn’t more fallout from Duncan Hunter’s wife’s office design choices.

    Anyway in the spirit of all things Purdue on this thread, Mitch Daniels, the PU Pres, has an op ed about some universities dumping ACT/SAT. He even uses the phrase “participation trophies” so you know he has my attention. (dying laughing)

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  31. Rizzo the Rat

    dmick89: there’s no denying that the awesome core talent that we thought we had in 2015 is a lot less impressive than we initially thought

    I don’t think this is true at all. Nor do I think we had any right to expect the team to be more successful than they have been the last three years.

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  32. dmick89

    Rizzo the Rat,

    I’m not talking about the last three years. Well, maybe 2018, but it’s obvious the Cubs have had a great stretch. That’s not my concern. Maybe you’re more optimistic about this team than I am, but I think this team’s run is nearly over (or already over) and then they’re left with huge contracts for aging players.

    As for this core, I’m curious why you disagree with my statement? Cubs fans were going apeshit crazy about how good all these young players were going to do. Russell has been a huge disappointment to say the least. Schwarber has been a disappointment and so have Happ and Almora Jr. That leaves Bryant, Rizzo and Baez (who most people didn’t even talk about in large part because he was a Hendry pick). That’s a solid core, especially if Baez can come anywhere close to repeating his 2018 season, which I think it unlikely. Solid is far from spectacular and Cubs fans expected a spectacular core. That didn’t work out and it’s disappointing for a number of reasons.

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  33. andcounting

    dmick89,

    I think the biggest question mark between optimism and pessimism is Kris Bryant.

    If he is the player he was in April 2018, the solid 3rd-tier players like Happ/Schwarber/Almora go from disappointing to dependable. If he disintegrates into nothingness, the rest of the core looks like frivolous shit. Seriously, you could be talking about a 6-win difference just from one player. If Kris Bryant had avoided that injury and extended his MVP-caliber pace, along with the year Baez had, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. We’d probably be celebrating another World Series. We spend so much time in disbelief over what a haphazard ragtag offense did without Bryant, we fail to really imagine what the Cubs would have accomplished with him healthy.

    We don’t know how KB is going to be in the future, but we know what his trajectory looked like before the injury. It was insane. Any vision of what the next few years would look like for the Cubs centered around Kris Bryant being healthy and super productive. True, we also pictured possibly adding Machado or Harper, along with not having Chatwood, so it’s natural to blame the front office for creating the current scenario in which none of that looks possible. But Bryant’s injury and subsequent absence from our confident vision of the Cubs’ future is not their fault, and anyone’s optimism about a Cubs dynasty would be diminished without Bryant.

    So I’m not super negative about the team’s efforts to dominate, though I am skeptical about how this team will look over the next couple of years. The real KB would change that, for sure. Any surprise action by the front office wouldn’t hurt, obviously.

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  34. Rizzo the Rat

    dmick89: As for this core, I’m curious why you disagree with my statement? Cubs fans were going apeshit crazy about how good all these young players were going to do. Russell has been a huge disappointment to say the least. Schwarber has been a disappointment and so have Happ and Almora Jr.

    I guess my expectations on these guys were more modest. Almora never hit much in the minors and I think Happ has performed in line with expectations. Schwarber is a good hitter, but I was never expecting him to be David Ortiz. I’ll admit that Russell has fallen off since his strong 2016 campaign, but Baez has gone in the other direction.

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  35. Rizzo the Rat

    I’m more disappointed in how the entire pitching rotation lost 1-2 mph in their fastball in 2017, and Quintana’s performance and velocity fell off last year, while Darvish coudn’t stay healthy (nothing new, but still disappointing). I’m really more concerned about the pitching staff than I am disappointed in the young core of position players.

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  36. Smokestack Lightning

    andcounting:
    Smokestack Lightning,

    Ok, at this point I have no idea who’s kidding.

    I’m not sure I do either. (dying laughing)

    I will say that on a pure enjoyment level, 2015 was the most fun I had watching this team, especially the second half.

    First 6 weeks of 2016 were pretty fun too. And maybe the last out of 2016. That was a good time, I think.

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  37. Smokestack Lightning

    Rizzo the Rat:
    I’m more disappointed in how the entire pitching rotation lost 1-2 mph in their fastball in 2017, and Quintana’s performance and velocityfell off last year, while Darvish coudn’t stay healthy (nothing new, but still disappointing). I’m really more concerned about the pitching staff than I am disappointed in the young core of position players.

    I’m hoping Hickey was somehow to blame for all of that. But then, I am admittedly a sucker for the notion that firing one person can somehow fix everything.

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  38. uncle dave

    BVS: Me neither. I think maybe Dave had a little too much eggnog at the company Christmas party where the boss once again took credit for his staff’s work while throwing them under the bus. Either that or he’s really pissed there wasn’t more fallout from Duncan Hunter’s wife’s office design choices.

    Folks are indeed lining up around the block to piss on my Wheaties these days, but I’m legit angry that the Cubs aren’t players this offseason. That comes on the heels of watching last season, where the Red Sox were seemingly the only team that chose not to participate in collusion and they hung another banner. It does not help at all that I have multiple Red Sox fans in my life and they are more reliably Professional Assholes than any other group of people I know, of course.

    There’s a generational talent on the market who ostensibly wants to play for this team. You don’t see that very often, so take a fucking shot and worry about the rest later.

    I can’t even look at eggnog, by the way. Years ago, I was on a bus coming home from work on a warm summer day, and this rather interesting gent steps on, you know, the type of guy where all of the square, decent commuters start wondering how their days are going to get fucked up this time. It’s nasty, humid, and everyone is dressed for work, so it already smells like a locker room in there.

    What did the guy do to fuck up everyone’s day? He reached in his CVS bag, produced a quart of eggnog, and started chugging right from the carton. Whole bus smells like eggnog and ass combined, it was just rancid. I don’t know where the fuck one gets eggnog in the middle of August (CVS, I guess), but this guy somehow pulled it off.

    I can’t even think about drinking it to this day, and that was like 20 years ago.

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  39. Smokestack Lightning

    uncle dave: I don’t know where the fuck one gets eggnog in the middle of August (CVS, I guess), but this guy somehow pulled it off.

    Big, if true.

    uncle dave: Folks are indeed lining up around the block to piss on my Wheaties these days, but I’m legit angry that the Cubs aren’t players this offseason.

    I can’t help but wonder if money isn’t an issue, and Ricketts is simply looking at Theo’s track record with expensive free agent signings and thinking maybe this is the one thing this guy isn’t good at.

    As Prince Akeem once said to Semmi in a tale of yore, “If you have no more money, you can cause no more mischief.”

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  40. dmick89

    Rizzo the Rat: I guess my expectations on these guys were more modest. Almora never hit much in the minors and I think Happ has performed in line with expectations. Schwarber is a good hitter, but I was never expecting him to be David Ortiz. I’ll admit that Russell has fallen off since his strong 2016 campaign, but Baez has gone in the other direction.

    I think some of us didn’t think much of Almora and Happ’s estimates varied between fans (I was pretty high on him, but I don’t base what I’ve said on that). I don’t think we need to look any further than what Theo Epstein said after the season. I don’t remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of it being time for these young players to produce or they’ll figure something out. Clearly the front office is disappointed in what they’ve gotten from their core. Disappointed enough that there was actually a rumor the team will consider trade offers for Kris Bryant. I think that’s mostly nonsense. Why wouldn’t they entertain offers? I assume they’d entertain offers on any player since it’s the smart move. The Cubs spent in a way that expected their young core to produce at a much higher level than they have. And that is where I think we are. Theo said it’s time for the young players to produce or they’d figure something out. In other words, they aren’t adding to this roster if the young core can’t produce more than they have. It’s not a completely unreasonable line of thought, but I’m not sure what making threats will accomplish.

    Yes, I agree that the decline in the pitching is quite troubling, but I also think some of that is due to the defense falling back to earth.

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    uncle dave: There’s a generational talent on the market who ostensibly wants to play for this team. You don’t see that very often, so take a fucking shot and worry about the rest later.

    Exactly. This organization has the money. If you go after Harper and Harper gets injured on day one and never plays again at least you tried. I’d much rather see this team try every single year to compete for a championship than sit back and hope for the best, which is what I think they’re basically doing. That’s what the Tribune did.

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    I also understand that a fairly solid argument could be made that the Cubs are already in a position to reach the playoffs as they currently are. On paper they’re probably the best team in the division, but not by much and my guess is that the Brewers pass the Cubs this offseason.

    I don’t know shit about the NBA, but Golden State was in a position to reach not just the playoffs, but were an almost certainty to reach the finals. What did they do? They went out and signed Kevin Durant and entered last year (and this) have had basically a 50% chance of winning it all each of the last three seasons. IMO, that’s how you run a sports team. I know people love to hate Golden State and I couldn’t care less how they do, but I’ll always have respect for them and any other organization that goes for it. The Yankees didn’t sit back and hope for the best in the 90s/00s. They went out year after year and went for it. I know it’s a little different today with luxury tax and the draft, but that’s how you do it. You try to put as much distance between you and the next best team so that you can weather almost anything. The Cubs didn’t do that last season and they didn’t win the division. I won’t be the least bit surprised if they end up taking the same approach and fail to even finish in 2nd place in the NL Central.

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  43. Myles

    DRC+ came out today by baseball prospectus. A new hitting statistic. It hated Javier Baez last year relative to other stats (115, 100 is average, 74th among qualified last season)

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    Myles,

    I don’t know what’s in the stat, but more important than how he performed last year is how he’ll perform going forward. Last year didn’t move my expectations all that much. If anything, his increased swing rate is even more troubling.

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  45. GW

    dmick89,

    yeah, the pitching version of that metric is extremely backwards-focused. control for everything and apportion credit. haven’t read anything about this one, but it’s likely the same

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  46. Perkins

    Is Addison Russell technically on the restricted list to start 2019? He doesn’t count against the Cubs’ 25 man roster, right?

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  47. dmick89

    BVS:
    dmick89,

    The underlying stat line doesn’t seem to add up to the difference in DRC+. KB has higher OPS but lower DRC+?

    Well, OPS isn’t a great stat either. If Schwarber had a much higher OBP and a slightly lower slugging I could see him having had a better offensive season. OBP is more valuable than SLG. I think it’s about 1.7 times more valuable.

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  48. BVS

    Ryno,

    No surprise. He’s been having health problems all year and when his wife is quoted in the paper expressing her concern about the tumor in his head, then the writing is on the wall. His assistant coach’s harassment issues also make it a good time to bow out and let the program retool with Day. I’d be happy if the Bucks wouldn’t regress to “prevent” mode as soon as they are 14 points up. More games like Michigan, please. Less like Nebraska.

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  49. dmick89

    I’m honestly surprised that BP hasn’t just added wOBA to their offensive stats. I’m sure a slightly better stat could be developed, but it would be so complicated that few people would ever use it. wOBA isn’t easy, but it’s easy to explain.

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  50. Myles

    We already have the best stat available: record in games which you played. We don’t give championships for GWARP, gentlemen. Next is games played, because I need gamers. Maybe you could compare the dirtiness of jerseys if you’re looking for the frontier of the sport or something.

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  51. Smokestack Lightning

    Patrick Corbin ——————> Natinals

    Contract details: Corbin will assume the role of “pitcher” for the Washington Nationals baseball club for years and will receive compensation in the form of U.S. currency.

    This move will likely eliminate Washington from any Bryce Harper pursuit. I would care more if the Cubs hadn’t already bumblefucked (probably) their way out of the same pursuit.

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    Smokestack Lightning: Contract details: Corbin will assume the role of “pitcher” for the Washington Nationals baseball club for years and will receive compensation in the form of U.S. currency.

    The Cubs were in the bidding, but could only offer bitcoin.

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  53. Mucker

    Can somebody explain to me why the Cubs are being talked about not having the money to sign Harper or Machado? Is it because of the luxury tax? Why is a team, that is in the business of winning baseball games, reluctant to add more payroll to stay under the luxury tax? What is the highest luxury tax they could be penalized? If they are over the tax by $100 mil, that’s a $30 million tax right? But they wouldn’t be close to $100mil over if they signed both Harper and Machado so what gives? I have to imagine the Cubs made a lot of fucking money winning that 2016 WS. Why does it seem like the Cubs are being cheap? Is it because they are or because I’m just looking into this wrong?

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  54. EnricoPallazzo

    Mucker,

    no they’re definitely being cheap, but i think the real question is, why?

    i suspect they were anticipating a major payday from a new tv deal and have recently been forced to consider “wait what if that doesn’t happen”

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  55. Smokestack Lightning

    EnricoPallazzo: i suspect they were anticipating a major payday from a new tv deal and have recently been forced to consider “wait what if that doesn’t happen”

    This is the only way any of this Cubs-suddenly-poor stuff will make sense to me. A lot of future spending was riding on getting the long-hyped massive TV deal, and it could be it’s now looking like it will be well short of what was previously expected. Shit happens. Markets change. That’s the breaks.

    But even then, sure seems like this team should be able to find a way to stretch for Harper or Machado. They need one of those guys pretty badly. It’s not often you get a chance to get one with a good chunk of their prime years left for just money.

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  56. Smokestack Lightning

    On the slightest bright side, I have noticed a slight uptick in “Cubes playing possum?” pieces from the media. If this is all a big head fake, it’s not only a helluva head fake, it seems an unnecessary one, given that (to continue my awesome basketball analogy) the Cubs basically had an open lane to the basket and nobody around them.

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    Smokestack Lightning,

    Would this sort of strategy work? This sort of thing comes up every once in awhile (probably back when the Cubs were cheap year in and year out). I guess I don’t see how it would work. I think you’ve got a better shot of faking everyone out by sending out messages that you’re going to blow away any offer the player gets from another team.

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  58. Ryno

    Smokestack Lightning: This is the only way any of this Cubs-suddenly-poor stuff will make sense to me. A…long-hyped massive…shit happens. They need one of those…pretty badly. It’s not often you get a chance to get…a good chunk.

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    If the Cubs can’t actually afford to add Harper or Machado then it’s piss poor management. There’s no nice way to say it. Fortunately that’s not actually true and they’ve just decided they don’t want to spend money.

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  60. Mucker

    dmick89,

    Agreed. The Cubs, along with the rest of MLB, knew Machado and Harper would be potential free agents this year. If they needed to get creative with payroll and what not, then signing Chatwood was a really big head scratcher in my opinion. I struggle to understand how this team can’t afford either of them. If this team wants to compete for a WS every year, they don’t have the roster to do it and they certainly don’t have the farm system to replenish. I don’t get it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m pretty satisfied they won in 16 but now I feel like they should be setting up a run for multiple titles and it seems like they are going in the wrong direction. They are certainly still a good to great team but I don’t see them beating any of the powerhouses in the AL.

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  61. Ryno

    Mucker,

    If they don’t spend to upgrade, I bet they plan to wait and see (prove me wrong) that they can contend as is. If they don’t, they should consider another fire sale.

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  62. andcounting

    Mucker,

    Obviously they can spend the money. The molecular composition of the Ricketts family is something like 99.99999999% money, the remaining .00000001% is some combination of humanity and bovine asshole, no time to discuss that ratio. They could add Harper and Machado without affecting those numbers. And the TV deal? It’s pretty interesting to think about how lucrative that could be since the broadcast/streaming industry is in serious flux right now. If the rest of MLB would allow them to stream Cubs games outside the MLB.tv service, particularly within their geographic market, that deal could be even more lucrative than previously thought—certainly not less.

    So, yeah, the question of what the Cubs can afford is not in doubt. They can afford all the players. What they decide to afford and how much of a player they decide to be in free agency is very much in question. We just don’t know, and every piece of evidence we think we have could be misdirection. All our discussion and all media reporting on it is as close to pure conjecture as you can get.

    At this moment I feel like they’ll actually be big spenders this year. But I’ve changed stances on this 1 million times.

    Also Goldschmidt—————> Cardinals. Fuck.

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  63. Smokestack Lightning

    andcounting: Also Goldschmidt—————> Cardinals. Fuck.

    Nah, this is good news. Maybe it will help get the .000000001% to use the 99.9999999999.

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  64. Smokestack Lightning

    dmick89: Would this sort of strategy work? This sort of thing comes up every once in awhile (probably back when the Cubs were cheap year in and year out). I guess I don’t see how it would work. I think you’ve got a better shot of faking everyone out by sending out messages that you’re going to blow away any offer the player gets from another team.

    Given the info we have, if this is the strategy, it would not appear to be an altogether clever one. But maybe the Cubs know shit we don’t (not likely, but it is possible), and this is the way to play it with Boras. Could be this is a way to smoke out other suitors. I really have no idea.

    More than likely, the TV deal is about to be a relative disappointment, and to make up for the adjusted revenue projection, Ricketts has said no Bryce.

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  65. andcounting

    Smokestack Lightning,

    If the TV deal looked good back in 2008, it has to look much better following the 2016 championship. I just don’t think there is even the remotest possibility that the TV deal is looking underwhelming to ownership right now.

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  66. Smokestack Lightning

    andcounting,

    Then I can’t fathom why the Cubs have apparently decided they can’t afford Bryce.

    Unless the media narrative is mistaken, and he’ll soon be a Cub. But I can’t remember the last time the media got something wrong, so I don’t even entertain it as a possibility.

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  67. andcounting

    Smokestack Lightning,

    It’s a pickle. I’m guessing there’s lots of posturing both to temper expectations from Harper and Boras as well as to drum up trade offers from teams who might believe the Cubs want to unload a blend of young talent and dead weight for a little financial freedom.

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  68. EnricoPallazzo

    Here’s a question: let’s say (please ignore actual numbers) that the cubs are currently worth $2b. The yankees are currently worth $3.5b. The marlins are currently worth $1b. Ten years from now, all mlb teams have increased (on average) by 2x in value.

    So, ten years from now, let’s say that the yankees have performed as expected, and won 1 WS and made a few ALCS appearances. They follow the league average and are worth $7b. Marlins have performed as expected and have not won jack shit. Theyve been at the ass end of the NL east every year. But they too have doubled in value to $2b.

    The cubs, meanwhile, from the years 2019-2028, have won 7 world series championships, due in large part to the fact that they signed bryce harper and he became a 19 WAR player every season. How much are the cubs worth? Baseline value is $4b, assuming they follow the league average of increase in value.

    Are they worth $4.5b? $6b? Or just marginally more than $4b? My question (obviously) is, how far into the red can they afford to go on an annual basis to still realize a net positive financial return in the long term?

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    EnricoPallazzo: So, ten years from now, let’s say that the yankees have performed as expected, and won 1 WS and made a few ALCS appearances. They follow the league average and are worth $7b. Marlins have performed as expected and have not won jack shit. Theyve been at the ass end of the NL east every year. But they too have doubled in value to $2b.

    I don’t think that’s how it works. The valuation of MLB teams was consistently lower than that for decades and I expect the annual increases in value to return to a semi-reasonable figure in the near future.

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    andcounting: Also Goldschmidt—————> Cardinals. Fuck.

    And now the Cubs are the maybe the third best team in the division. Actually, I still think they’re the best on paper, but that paper includes a lot of starts from Darvish that we shouldn’t rely on.

    The front office did a remarkable job in turning this organization around not once, but twice. In a couple years they will be back to their destined spot in the division, which is dead fucking last.

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    dmick89,

    I also don’t think the valuations are anywhere close to accurate. Owners keep all such information private to keep the players union in the dark. We don’t know revenues, we don’t know values, but they’ll make damn sure we know what their expenses are. Even the actual terms of selling the team are kept private. (Loria claimed a loss on his sale of the Marlins even though his financial firm nabbed a $33 million share on their claim to 5% of the profits. He bought the team for under $200 million and sold it for more than a billion dollars above that number, 15 years later. ) Baseball is great and all, but the owners are a legal mafia. Nobody’s losing money.

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  72. Myles Handley

    I have a sick fantasy where the Cubs dont sign anyone this offseason, let it ride, and the in 2020 they trade everyone not bolted down and just decide to go from 94 to 64 wins in one year. Leverage the huge number of assets theyll have that are going to get expensive into an instant top farm system. It’s not a good idea, but it would be very interesting.

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  73. Smokestack Lightning

    andcounting:
    dmick89,

    I also don’t think the valuations are anywhere close to accurate. Owners keep all such information private to keep the players union in the dark. We don’t know revenues, we don’t know values, but they’ll make damn sure we know what their expenses are. Even the actual terms of selling the team are kept private. (Loria claimed a loss on his sale of the Marlins even though his financial firm nabbed a $33 million share on their claim to 5% of the profits. He bought the team for under $200 million and sold it for more than a billion dollars above that number, 15 years later. ) Baseball is great and all, but the owners are a legal mafia. Nobody’s losing money.

    Yeah, I’m probably not giving enough credit to this angle. There’s always incentive for owners to dissemble over how much they have to spend. And probably even more so here, as dealing with Boras is a nightmare from their perspective. I would imagine Boras has been especially looking forward to this offseason ever since he signed on with Harper. He’ll be looking to break records, bankrolls, hearts, etc.

    So there’s probably more value in the Cubs recasting themselves as a dark horse in this chase than I’ve thought. As much as we look back and think Cubs free agent targets were obvious and inevitable, IIRC, there was a lot of uncertainty in the moment. I remember plenty of that (and angst) over whether the Cubs would ever pay out for Darvish last year, and looking back to Heyward, it seemed like he was the sort of player the Cubs would go after, but nothing was really obvious or clear about it until Theo actually swooped in and signed him.

    And when you have a player like Harper available, no matter how much money you have, it’s probably not the best to be in the position where the overwhelming expectation in all sectors of the galaxy is you sign that player. You have to leave yourself outs in case things go sideways. And fan/pundit expectation at the end of this season pretty much had the Cubs as the frontrunner. There’s likely more to gain throwing up a smokescreen than we think.

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    Smokestack Lightning,

    One big difference between those years and this is that the reports are entirely different. We knew early on the Cubs had interest in Darvish and would be contenders. Yeah, it became uncertain, but not until after they put in a significant offer that was talked about for a couple months. The Cubs signed Heyward rather quickly if I recall, but he was exactly the kind of player this team would want and I think everyone assumed the Cubs would be major players. The reports and assumptions this year are the opposite of those.

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  75. Ryno

    The #Cubs go outside the box, as expected, and promote Tommy Hottovy as pitching coach after previously being their “run prevention coordinator.” He replaces Jim Hickey, who stayed just one year.

    — Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) December 6, 2018

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  76. Ryno

    The Cubs also expanded Mike Borzello's title, naming him the associate pitching coach in addition to catching/strategy coach.

    — Patrick Mooney (@PJ_Mooney) December 6, 2018

    “catching/strategy coach”

    “OK, guys. From now on, we want the baseball to land inside our gloves. Understand?”

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  77. Smokestack Lightning

    dmick89:
    Smokestack Lightning,

    One big difference between those years and this is that the reports are entirely different. We knew early on the Cubs had interest in Darvish and would be contenders. Yeah, it became uncertain, but not until after they put in a significant offer that was talked about for a couple months. The Cubs signed Heyward rather quickly if I recall, but he was exactly the kind of player this team would want and I think everyone assumed the Cubs would be major players. The reports and assumptions this year are the opposite of those.

    There are differences; we’re in a weird newish kind of place for this Cub administration (if the reports are true). I was just contesting the notion that the Cubs have always been super transparent and obvious in their pursuits and the underlying assumption that it’s generally been smooth sailing going from point A to B. A lot of time was spent last offseason handwringing and being super pissed and down about the Darvish situation, for instance. Many of our comments this offseason are similar to what was being said last year (except for me; I was in thrall to spin rate and not in my right mind), and it turned out to be a waste of time, as the Cubs got who we thought they should get (for better or worse). We’re not even at the point of this offseason that we were last year when the Cubs made their pitch to Darvish.

    And given how the Cubs crying poor still doesn’t make any sense, I guess I’m still susceptible to the idea that there’s a lot more going on here than what we’ve been lead to believe.

    But I suppose it could go either way.

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  78. dmick89

    Myles Handley:
    I have a sick fantasy where the Cubs dont sign anyone this offseason, let it ride, and thein 2020 they trade everyone not bolted down and just decide to go from 94 to 64 wins in one year. Leverage the huge number of assets theyll have that are going to get expensive into an instant top farm system. It’s not a good idea, but it would be very interesting.

    If this is a possible option for the Cubs, it’s one they should seriously consider this offseason. They’d get more for what they have this year than next. I’d prefer they spend, but if they aren’t going to do that, I’d be fine if they tore it down.

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  79. Smokestack Lightning

    I do appreciate how when I manage to struggle to some sort of reason to hope the Cubs will spend this offseason, some report comes out right away that pretty much shuts that shit down.

    Theo apparently said today the Cubs would have to get real creative to add dollars of significance this year.

    I’m assuming he’s not of the opinion that filling out a “clowns with balloons” check to Bryce Harper qualifies.

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  80. Smokestack Lightning

    JKV,

    I don’t think the sky is falling, man. I assume the Cubs will be good to very good next year, and… we’ll somehow find a way to be mad about it.

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    Smokestack Lightning,

    I assume as is the Cubs will contend. Even if they don’t get much or anything from Darvish I expect that is true. I don’t know that they’ll reach the playoffs, but I expect they’d be in the thick of it.

    That being said, just because the sky isn’t falling doesn’t mean the Cubs shouldn’t consider options on getting better down the road rather than right now. Obviously that isn’t the ideal choice, but that apparently isn’t an option.

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  82. EnricoPallazzo

    JKV:
    The sky is falling schtick going on here lately is getting old.

    i think everyone’s (justifiably) kinda bummed that the rumor mill went from “cubs are odds-on favorite to land harper” to “cubs are broke as shit” in like 2 weeks. i don’t think the sky is falling, but as dmick and others have said, that doesn’t mean you can’t start planning for longer-term success (even if that comes at the expense of the immediate future).

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    EnricoPallazzo I don’t think the sky is falling, but as dmick and others have said, that doesn’t mean you can’t start planning for longer-term success (even if that comes at the expense of the immediate future).

    Any time this idea of immediate vs. long term success comes up, the ghost of Gleyber Torres haunts me.

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  84. Ryno

    andcounting,

    Just imagine how you’d feel right now if they hadn’t won the ’16 WS.

    I had gotten to the point where I could pretend to enjoy a season and not base its success on whether a championship had been won, but that’s bullshit. I’m still in the buffer of bliss with CHC.

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    EnricoPallazzo: that doesn’t mean you can’t start planning for longer-term success (even if that comes at the expense of the immediate future).

    Right. I want this team to contend each and every season, but apparently the Cubs have reached a point where doing so is getting a lot more difficult. Since the future looks like it’s going to suck since the Cubs farm system is no better than the Topeka High School team it seems like a good opportunity to maybe sell off a piece or two while still contending.

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  86. andcounting

    Ryno,

    I often wonder what I’d do if I were given the chance to undo that trade. I think I’d leave history unchanged. But yeah, if they hadn’t won it all the loss would be excruciating.

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    andcounting,

    I think the Cubs gave up too much. They maybe should have considered going after Chapman in the offseason since they apparently don’t care all that much about having pieces of shit on the team. The Yankees got him for next to nothing IIRC and then turned around a few months later and got a huge haul from the Cubs.

    That being said, I think Chapman played a big role for the Cubs and they may not have won the WS without him. If I had a time machine, I’d go back to the offseason before 2016 and trade for Chapman when his value had declined.

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  88. mobile dave

    andcounting:
    Mucker,

    Obviously they can spend the money. The molecular composition of the Ricketts family is something like 99.99999999% money, the remaining .00000001% is some combination of humanity and bovine asshole, no time to discuss that ratio. They could add Harper and Machado without affecting those numbers. And the TV deal? It’s pretty interesting to think about how lucrative that could be since the broadcast/streaming industry is in serious flux right now. If the rest of MLB would allow them to stream Cubs games outside the MLB.tv service, particularly within their geographic market, that deal could be even more lucrative than previously thought—certainly not less.

    So, yeah, the question of what the Cubs can afford is not in doubt. They can afford all the players. What they decide to afford and how much of a player they decide to be in free agency is very much in question. We just don’t know, and every piece of evidence we think we have could be misdirection. All our discussion and all media reporting on it is as close to pure conjecture as you can get.

    I think it’ll remain conjecture even after the dust settles, but to me your first point is the most important one. The owners of this club would sooner prove a philosophical point about their power to fuck their employees than be competitive or even maximize their long-term financial gain, and because MLB teams print money for their owners, they’ll get away with it and not even get dinged financially in the short run.

    We’re in a run of bad owner behavior that we’ve not seen since the mid-80s, or maybe since the advent of free agency, and these dipshits are front and center.

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  89. Rizzo the Rat

    I can see Smith as a HOFer, relative to his position (e.g., he compares well to Hoffman). Baines makes no sense whatsoever.

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  90. berselius

    Rizzo the Rat,

    Yeah, no kidding. When I saw the list of people considered I figured it would just be Steinbrenner getting in. That he wasn’t elected was probably the most shocking thing from this vote.

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  91. WaLi

    berselius:
    100 bottles of New Glarus beer ————-> berselius

    100 bottles of New Glarus beer on the wall, 100 bottles of New Glarus beer! Berselius takes one down, and passes it around 99 bottles of New Glarus Beer on the wall!
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    98 bottles of New Glarus beer on the wall, 98 bottles of New Glarus beer! Berselius takes one down, and passes it around 97 bottles of New Glarus Beer on the wall!
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  92. WaLi

    berselius,

    I strung a lot of lights around the 2nd story gutter. This year I decided to do it from the roof and reach over the edge. I was safe in the fact that I tied myself off with a rope. I wasn’t safe in that there was nothing to tie the other end too. I made it this time though, although last year I left the lights up until May. Might just leave them up all year this time.

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  93. berselius

    WaLi,

    The roof was the easy part – I was foolish enough to decide to light up the ~20 foot pine tree next to my house. There was lots of precarious ladder balancing.

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  94. Ryno

    I'll jump into the mix here to say that ahead of Saturday's show, I was told by a person in a position to know that the #Cubs are *more* in on Harper than we've been led to believe.

    Whether that means due diligence or something more, I don't know.

    — Julie DiCaro (@JulieDiCaro) December 10, 2018

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  95. Smokestack Lightning

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    Maybe.

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  96. WaLi

    Anyone think White Sox going to get Harper or Machado? The story seems to be they have the funds but Harper/Machado don’t want to play on the south side.

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  97. BVS

    Toronto cuts Tulo w two years left to pay. He’s available for league minimum. Sounds like the perfect signing for this offseason’s Cubs.

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  98. Perkins

    It’s even more infuriating when I remember that the Ricketts family pours a ton of money into right wing super PACs, but don’t seem to have enough money to lock up a generational talent for their baseball team.

    I think we’d all agree that the country could use fewer right wing politicians and more Cubs World Series titles.

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