“We play like a Triple-A team.”

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That’s what Carlos Zambrano said. He did not call the players AAA players. He said the team was playing like a AAA team and I don’t know anybody who would argue with that. Singling out Carlos Marmol was probably too much, but as Koyie Hill said, he’s frustrated. This is one of those things that would be no big deal in another organization, but could end up being a very big deal in the Cubs organization.


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  1. Mercurial Outfielder

    That’s what Carlos Zambrano said. He did not call the players AAA players.

    Someone should inform Quade, because that’s how he understood it.

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  2. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Does it matter that the Cubs are the Iowa Cubs at this point and are thus a AAA team?[/quote]Why? Nothing’s wrong. Just injuries.

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  3. mb21

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Someone should inform Quade, because that’s how he understood it.[/quote]I thought Quade handled it pretty well.

    “He got ahead with his fastball,” he said. “Z critiquing Marmol’s approach? Right now, i could care less. Those are the things you go back and look at tomorrow. Marmol throws a slider. Everybody is always (ticked) when he gets beat with his fastball, it seems like.

    “I’m just (ticked) when we get beat. Z pitched good. That’s all I know.”

    That’s exactly how I want that handled. The question is how is this going to be handled tomorrow.

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  4. Urk

    My impression of Quade’s comments was that, if he wasn’t defending Z, he certainly wasn’t jumping on the bandwagon of outrage either. he did defend Marmol, which I think he has to pretty much. Other than that, he mostly said “I’m not worried about it, I’ll let the players take care of that themselves.” (approx.) That seems pretty sane for a guy who says as much stupid shit as Quade.

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  5. Urk

    [quote name=mb21]That’s exactly how I want that handled. The question is how is this going to be handled tomorrow.[/quote]

    Yeah- what he said.

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  6. mb21

    The other thing Z has on his side this time is that everybody agrees. Even the people on BCB (even Al yellon) agree with Zambrano.

    What should happen

    Quade gets asked about this tomorrow and he responds with something like, “That’s behind us. We have to look forward and try to put the last week or two behind us and get back in this race.”

    If Hendry is asked about, he should say something like, “These things happen. It’s done and over with. Zambrano said the team wasn’t playing well and I think everyone agrees. Now it’s time to figure out how we play better baseball.”

    What will probably happen

    Quade: I talked to Zambrano about it and told him he can’t say that stuff to another player. He’s apologized to Marmol and the team and now we’ll move on.

    Hendry: You can’t do what Zambrano did in a Major League uniform. It’s not professional and we’ll deal with this.

    —————

    I don’t have a problem if Quade says what he did. He’s right. I’d prefer he not say anything, but if he sticks to something like that I’m OK. Hendry shouldn’t even comment on this at all.

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  7. mb21

    [quote name=Urk]My impression of Quade’s comments was that, if he wasn’t defending Z, he certainly wasn’t jumping on the bandwagon of outrage either. he did defend Marmol, which I think he has to pretty much. Other than that, he mostly said “I’m not worried about it, I’ll let the players take care of that themselves.” (approx.) That seems pretty sane for a guy who says as much stupid shit as Quade.[/quote]Agreed. Quade didn’t really say anything he shouldn’t have. He was more upset with the loss and made a point to highlight Zambrano’s strong start. he also pointed out that Marmol is pretty damn good at what he does and after a mistake everybody wants to second guess.

    I don’t think anything happens to Zambrano. I even think there’s a decent chance the Cubs handle this exactly as they should.

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  8. mb21

    Some people on BCB even encouraging a dugout brawl. Zambrano is pitching well enough at this point and the most consistent starter on the team. The fans are going to be behind him for a change.

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  9. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]The guy who quote Z’s comments, the comment turned green.

    This is very interesting.[/quote]Seems like the fans have finally had enough of the team being terrible, and enough of Sullivan and Gordo spending their time instigating fights rather than seeking out facts.

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  10. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]The other thing Z has on his side this time is that everybody agrees. Even the people on BCB (even Al yellon) agree with Zambrano.

    What should happen

    Quade gets asked about this tomorrow and he responds with something like, “That’s behind us. We have to look forward and try to put the last week or two behind us and get back in this race.”

    If Hendry is asked about, he should say something like, “These things happen. It’s done and over with. Zambrano said the team wasn’t playing well and I think everyone agrees. Now it’s time to figure out how we play better baseball.”

    What will probably happen

    Quade: I talked to Zambrano about it and told him he can’t say that stuff to another player. He’s apologized to Marmol and the team and now we’ll move on.

    Hendry: You can’t do what Zambrano did in a Major League uniform. It’s not professional and we’ll deal with this.

    —————

    I don’t have a problem if Quade says what he did. He’s right. I’d prefer he not say anything, but if he sticks to something like that I’m OK. Hendry shouldn’t even comment on this at all.[/quote]Agree 100%

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  11. melissa

    [quote name=mb21]The guy who quote Z’s comments, the comment turned green.

    This is very interesting.[/quote]
    Z said what all the fans have been thinking when he made the AAA remark. This team is an embarrassment, who would argue with that? I’d like to think that management could just move on and let this die but they’ve done nothing in the past to make me believe that will occur. Hendry has blasted guys in the past and made matters worse so I’m taking a wait and see approach. (dying laughing)

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  12. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius][/quote]Someone posted that in the BCB thread in response to Z’s comments. This is just weird.

    If Z’s punished for this, the fans will be pissed because they agree with everything Zambrano said. No way he gets punished.

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  13. mb21

    [quote name=melissa]Z said what all the fans have been thinking when he made the AAA remark. This team is an embarrassment, who would argue with that? I’d like to think that management could just move on and let this die but they’ve done nothing in the past to make me believe that will occur. Hendry has blasted guys in the past and made matters worse so I’m taking a wait and see approach. (dying laughing)[/quote]The thing about the AAA remark is that you’ll hear managers say that about how their team is playing if they’re playing poorly. I think Leyland said it a few times last year alone. I’m positive Lou said it at least once. That’s a fair common remark.

    It’s just so typical of the media to try and blow it out of proportion. Z shouldn’t have said what he did about the pitch to Theriot because that’s singling another out, but other than that, he didn’t say anything wrong.

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  14. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]
    If Z’s punished for this, the fans will be pissed because they agree with everything Zambrano said. No way he gets punished.[/quote]
    That’d be nice for a change.

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  15. mb21

    Wow. Just wow. Check out this comment from the fucking Tribune of all places.

    Zambrano is just plain wrong. The Cubs resemble more of a single-A team than AAA.

    Where has Quade been through all of this? I’m so tired of, “the guys are trying.” The team sucks…and its nice to actually hear somebody on this team telling it like it is. At least Zambrano gives a *$&# about what is going on.

    (dying laughing)

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  16. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]Someone posted that in the BCB thread in response to Z’s comments. This is just weird.

    If Z’s punished for this, the fans will be pissed because they agree with everything Zambrano said. No way he gets punished.[/quote]
    The Cubs suck, but if the beat writers double down on Z they’ll still run him out of town. If Z keeps throwing 7-8 inning starts he’ll get more sympathy but the moment he has a rough outing the writers will be all over him again.

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  17. mb21

    Zambrano got it right, although his comments may be an insult to a few AAA teams. Unbelievable how the Chicago media refuses to come clean and call a lousy team a lousy team. It was evident before spring training even started.

    Kudos to big Z on this one. Hill has no business in the Majors nor does Quade. Two days in a row you don’t pitch to Pujols and we do it–little league managers know as much.

    And this is the second lame article by the tribune simply repeating the facts from the sidelines. You no longer own this team and its appropriate to rip this organization a new one for how they’ve prepared for and managed this season.

    If I need a simple summary of events, I can get that on ESPN, Sportsline, etc. The media is being way too soft on this organization and should be leading fans to boycott this mess at the ticket prices they’re asking for.

    Maybe Big Z can start writing for the Trib.

    zambrano is right. this is downright embarrassing. i am glad someone finally had the balls to say what we have known for a while now. i try to be supportive of my team but it is really hard when they are playing this bad and not showing hardly any positive signs. i know the media likes to take turn people into bad guys when they make statements like this but thank you big z for stepping up and telling the truth. maybe this will wake up the rest of the team and get a fire lit under their sorry, underachieving butts

    Almost every comment here agrees with Z: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0606-cubs-cardinals-chicago–20110605,0,765489.story

    This is just odd.

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  18. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]The Cubs suck, but if the beat writers double down on Z they’ll still run him out of town. If Z keeps throwing 7-8 inning starts he’ll get more sympathy but the moment he has a rough outing the writers will be all over him again.[/quote]I would have agreed before reading through the comments on the Tribune. It’s clear at this point that Quade is the whipping boy and that’s not going to change until he’s gone. After Quade is Ramirez and Soriano. Z’s pretty far down the list now.

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  19. melissa

    [quote name=mb21]The thing about the AAA remark is that you’ll hear managers say that about how their team is playing if they’re playing poorly. I think Leyland said it a few times last year alone. I’m positive Lou said it at least once. That’s a fair common remark.

    It’s just so typical of the media to try and blow it out of proportion. Z shouldn’t have said what he did about the pitch to Theriot because that’s singling another out, but other than that, he didn’t say anything wrong.[/quote]
    I think you’re right that the AAA remark is fairly common but not usually said by players about their team. It’s not right to bitch about throwing Theriot something other than a fastball but this is his 2nd consecutive start that Marmol has blown the save. I’m also pretty sure Z was wondering how Marmol could let the super singles hitter drive in a runner from first with a double. I wonder how many doubles R-The even has this season.

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  20. mb21

    I still think Z gets traded because it’s the right thing to do and the Cubs will want to free up some salary. Zambrano will want out by July as well.

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  21. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]I would have agreed before reading through the comments on the Tribune. It’s clear at this point that Quade is the whipping boy and that’s not going to change until he’s gone. After Quade is Ramirez and Soriano. Z’s pretty far down the list now.[/quote]
    I think time will work against Z. Don’t forget Hendry in the list of guys the fans will blame.

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  22. melissa

    I think people would react a little differently towards Z if he wasn’t performing so well. He’s been pretty good and fans do appreciate his effort and desire to win. That being said, I think Hendry will try and trade him, which is the right thing to do. Unfortunately the Cubs have set a precedent that shows they like to trash guys on their way out of town. If they are smart they won’t leak their petty grievances about him or call him out about this and lower his trade value.

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  23. melissa

    [quote name=Berselius]I think time will work against Z. Don’t forget Hendry in the list of guys the fans will blame.[/quote]
    Agreed and that’s why I think Hendry will trash Z at some point in order to deflect blame away from himself. He did it to Z last year and MB the year before.

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  24. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]I think time will work against Z. Don’t forget Hendry in the list of guys the fans will blame.[/quote]If I’ve learned anything about Cubs fans in recent years it’s that they focus on one or two guys. I don’t blame Quade for the season anymore than I blamed Lou for 2009 and 2010, but the fans sure do. The fans definitely blame Hendry. We don’t even hear that much about Soriano anymore because of all the anger directed at those two.

    Plus, the team is out of it so Z not performing up to their expectations won’t be as big a deal. The Cubs are going to have to significantly improve while Zambrano pitches quite poorly for a long time before he is the focus of the fans anger and frustration in my opinion.

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  25. mb21

    [quote name=melissa]Agreed and that’s why I think Hendry will trash Z at some point in order to deflect blame away from himself. He did it to Z last year and MB the year before.[/quote]And Silva this year.

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  26. mb21

    I also think it’s telling that two starts in a row the media has tried to start shit and no one is buying it.

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  27. Berselius

    I think people would react a little differently towards Z if he wasn’t performing so well.

    It’s so strange to see, as MB points out, because Z could *never* perform well enough for the fans after he signed his extension (except maybe in that one start in 2008, which everyone seems to have forgotten)

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  28. mb21

    except maybe in that one start in 2008, which everyone seems to have forgotten

    not to mention that the start after the no-hitter he was just awful and the fans went ballistic on him.

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  29. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=melissa]Agreed and that’s why I think Hendry will trash Z at some point in order to deflect blame away from himself. He did it to Z last year and MB the year before.[/quote]Silva, Sosa, Mercker…

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  30. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]I also think it’s telling that two starts in a row the media has tried to start shit and no one is buying it.[/quote]Yeah, that’s good to see. I think the fans are finally seeing through Sullivan and Gordo’s bullshit. That’s encouraging.

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  31. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]It’s really strange, but I love seeing it.[/quote]
    +288 LSA Rec’d NAMBLA

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  32. mb21

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, that’s good to see. I think the fans are finally seeing through Sullivan and Gordo’s bullshit. That’s encouraging.[/quote]I liked the one comment on the Tribune about how Z could do a better job at the Tribune than the beat reporters could.

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  33. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]I liked the one comment on the Tribune about how Z could do a better job at the Tribune than the beat reporters could.[/quote]Yeah, that was sweet. Sullivan has spent a long time spinning this shit. Maybe it’s all starting to unravel.

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  34. dylanj

    this totally backfired on sully. His comments tapped into the frustration that everybody is feeling right now.

    Sweet

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  35. Berselius

    [quote name=Paul Sackville-Baggins]Cubs twitterverse has spoken: Zambrano is a hero for calling out Marmol and his teammates. Coronation in Cincy on Monday.[/quote]
    The weed of crappy journalism bears bitter fruit apparently

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  36. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=dylanj]i really believe this team will have the top pick next year.

    And draft the 35th overall talent[/quote]
    Hell, I will glad that took someone as high on the board as 35th.

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  37. dylanj

    tomorrow could be a bad day for me as a cub fan. If they pull some horseshit in the draft like last year i might have to take the rest of the year off.

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  38. Bubba Biscuit

    Z was right and this is great to see the shit-stirrers getting it on their faces. I really hope this helps Z end up in a better place to have a run at a ring. Heck, he could be Wild Thing 2 in Cleveland.

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  39. Urk

    I’ve been following Miles’ blog lately, and the commenters there generally blame Quade, but maybe blame Hendry more since not only is Quade’s presence Hendry’s fault, but so is Soriano’s and Rami’s continued presence. Also, while there’s lots of the usual mind-reading based ritual abuse (Ramirez doesn’t care!) there’s been a lot of complaining about how poorly this team does basic stuff: baserunning, taking walks, etc. Assuming that these guys are a fairly representative sampling, part of the reason Z is getting applauded for this is that he basically said what people have been thinking for a while now, at least since the Pirates series and probably since that big inning vs Boston.

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  40. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]The weed of crappy journalism bears bitter fruit apparently[/quote]Weak sauce. What a fucking wuss.

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  41. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=dylanj]sully and i are fighting via email[/quote](dying laughing), he must really have his hobbity britches in a bunch.

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  42. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=dylanj]i called him the Fox News of beat reporters. He called me Magoo. I smell a sitcom![/quote]Magoo? He’s more like the Sarah Palin of sportswriters.

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  43. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Magoo? He’s more like the replacement level college freshman of sportswriters.[/quote]
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  44. shadasrevenge

    Zambrano is right, but should probably be aware that 1/2 of the roster was in the minors to start the year.

    If anyone should be happy about this, it’s Quade, because Z’s comments will distract the media from the real issue, which is him deciding to pitch to Pujols two days in a row in a situation where he can beat you with one swing of the bat.

    He (Quade) said yesterday that he would “rethink” whether or not to pitch to Pujols, but when faced with the same situation earlier this afternoon, he went ahead and did it anyway.

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  45. mb21

    [quote name=dylanj]i really believe this team will have the top pick next year.

    And draft the 35th overall talent[/quote]It’s unlikely either of those happen. First, they’re not likely to win the fewest games in MLB. Second, they’re not likely to draft someone that high next year. (dying laughing)

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  46. mb21

    He (Quade) said yesterday that he would “rethink” whether or not to pitch to Pujols, but when faced with the same situation earlier this afternoon, he went ahead and did it anyway.

    That was funny. As I’ve said here though, I’d have pitched to Pujols. Both days. The only batter I’m walking to lead off an inning is 1999-2004 Barry Bonds and even then I’d only do it if a righty was on the mound and only consider it in the 9th or later.

    Walk Pujols and the Cardinals run expectancy is about .94 runs. You’re giving them a run if you walk Pujols.

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  47. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]It’s unlikely either of those happen. First, they’re not likely to win the fewest games in MLB. Second, they’re not likely to draft someone that high next year. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Minnesota and Houston are pretty bad. But Cubs are only 1.5 games up on Houston and Minnesota is on a mini-tear with Mauer set to come back in a month or so as he’s getting ready for a rehab assignment. It can happen!

    But agreed that the Cubs would fuck the pick up anyway.

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  48. Mercurial Outfielder

    I love that this whole thing has blown up in Sullivan’s face. He looks like a huge asswipe, and in print no less.

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  49. mb21

    [quote name=AndCounting]This is the best day in Cubsville in quite some time. (dying laughing)[/quote]It’s been entertaining and awfully surprising. It’s so nice to see so many people see Sullivan for what he is.

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  50. mb21

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I love that this whole thing has blow up in Sullivan’s face. He looks like a huge asswipe, and in print no less.[/quote]That’s just a bonus. I realized earlier tonight the whole stink about Z’s broken bat was really just the media. They tried last week and tried again and failed both times. I love it.

    Let’s not forget HJE will have Sully’s back. (dying laughing)

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  51. shadasrevenge

    What did Sullivan say that has everyone in an uproar? I didn’t see anything too inflammatory in his article.

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  52. mb21

    What I like about Z’s comments is that he says “We play like a AAA team.” He doesn’t say “They play like a AAA team.” He includes himself in it. Anybody getting on Z for that comment can’t read. He clearly said “we” as in he and every other player on the team are playing like a AAA team. And he’s right.

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  53. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=shadasrevenge]What did Sullivan say that has everyone in an uproar? I didn’t see anything too inflammatory in his article.[/quote]He started this whole thing by prodding Z postgame, then tried to get a Twitter uproar started, then the lede is his article basically intimated that Z would be driven out of town.

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  54. mb21

    [quote name=shadasrevenge]What did Sullivan say that has everyone in an uproar? I didn’t see anything too inflammatory in his article.[/quote]Nothing too inflammatory, but he was clearly trying to get people upset at Zambrano. He’s done this before. He’s done this quite often actually. Not just with Zambrano either. Most of the time the readers just happen to agree with him and it spins out of control. It’s just so nice to see the readers not falling for it and basically telling Sully he’s a moron. It’s been needed to be said for years now.

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  55. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]What I like about Z’s comments is that he says “We play like a AAA team.” He doesn’t say “They play like a AAA team.” He includes himself in it. Anybody getting on Z for that comment can’t read. He clearly said “we” as in he and every other player on the team are playing like a AAA team. And he’s right.[/quote]Yeah, but Sullivan isn’t interested in facts, or what people actually said. He’s only interested in servicing his pathetic narrative about Z being a bad teammate and a hotheaded asshole.

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  56. mb21

    And last week after Marmol allowed 100 runs in the 9th inning, the entire god damn article was about Z breaking a bat. And then Marmol. Z pitched a great game (last time and this time).

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  57. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]Nothing too inflammatory, but he was clearly trying to get people upset at Zambrano. He’s done this before. He’s done this quite often actually. Not just with Zambrano either. Most of the time the readers just happen to agree with him and it spins out of control. It’s just so nice to see the readers not falling for it and basically telling Sully he’s a moron. It’s been needed to be said for years now.[/quote]Right. So far, Sullivan has done this with Prior, MB, and Z.

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  58. Rice Cube

    [quote name=AndCounting]This is the best day in Cubsville in quite some time. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    That could inspire someone to make a parody of “How the Grinch Stole Christmas”…

    Every Cubs fan in Cubsville liked Zambrano a lot…

    But the Hobbit, who lived just north of Cubsville, did not!

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  59. mb21

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, but Sullivan isn’t interested in facts, or what people actually said. He’s only interested in servicing his pathetic narrative about Z being a bad teammate and a hotheaded asshole.[/quote]Agreed, but that’s why I quoted it here. It needs to be quoted and explained. Much to my surprise though, I was wrong. The fans saw right through it. Good for them.

    When I wrote this I was certain the fans would be all over him so i wanted to highlight that one comment. At first Sully said that Z called the players AAA players, which he didn’t do.

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  60. mb21

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Right. So far, Sullivan has done this with Prior, MB, and Z.[/quote]Probably others, but MB and Z are the ones I remember the most.

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  61. Rice Cube

    After I finish editing my manuscript I’m going to snag my son’s copy of the Grinch and fix up a parody…

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  62. AndCounting

    [quote name=Rice Cube]That could inspire someone to make a parody of “How the Grinch Stole Christmas”…

    Every Cubs fan in Cubsville liked Zambrano a lot…

    But the Hobbit, who lived just north of Cubsville, did not![/quote](dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)

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  63. mb21

    I just hate it when the media tries to create the story. Sullivan has made a career out of doing that and it’s bullshit. Tell us what happened in a way that isn’t obviously said to influence our opinion. If Sullivan did that, i’d have no problem with him. He’s not capable of doing that.

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  64. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]After I finish editing my manuscript I’m going to snag my son’s copy of the Grinch and fix up a parody…[/quote]Couldn’t it be a tragedy? (dying laughing)

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  65. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]I just hate it when the media tries to create the story. Sullivan has made a career out of doing that and it’s bullshit. Tell us what happened in a way that isn’t obviously said to influence our opinion. If Sullivan did that, i’d have no problem with him. He’s not capable of doing that.[/quote]It’s a sign of a weak and insecure writer. I see this in freshman papers all the time. And even most of them are better at giving a fair account of their interlocutors’ claims that Sullivan is. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=Rice Cube]After I finish editing my manuscript I’m going to snag my son’s copy of the Grinch and fix up a parody…[/quote]You better ask HJE’s permission first.

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]You better ask HJE’s permission first.[/quote]
    They did one already?

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    [quote name=Rice Cube]They did one already?[/quote](dying laughing), no, Sullivan is their GOOD FRIEND, and when we started paddling his little hobbit ass for all the fucking lies and misinformation he spreads with his milquetoast narratives, they got pissed at us and Aisle 424, leading to Sullivan showing up at Kitty O’Sheas at a Cubs blogger meet-up looking for us and telling one of the HJE regulars that he wanted to kick our asses. (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=mb21]I just hate it when the media tries to create the story. Sullivan has made a career out of doing that and it’s bullshit. Tell us what happened in a way that isn’t obviously said to influence our opinion. If Sullivan did that, i’d have no problem with him. He’s not capable of doing that.[/quote]I would think that the story after today’s game would be that the Cubs aren’t good. It takes some kind of dedicated propagandist to tell a different story.

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing), no, Sullivan is their GOOD FRIEND, and when we started paddling his little hobbit ass for all the fucking lies and misinformation he spreads with his milquetoast narratives, they got pissed at us and Aisle 424.[/quote]
    Oh, well I don’t know him so I really don’t give a shit πŸ˜‰

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    [quote name=mb21]Couldn’t it be a tragedy? (dying laughing)[/quote]
    It might just be. But I think I’ll make sure there’s a happy ending for Z.

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    I love that what’s getting lost in all of this is Zambrano saying Theriot can’t hit a fastball.

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    [quote name=AndCounting]I would think that the story after today’s game would be that the Cubs aren’t good. It takes some kind of dedicated propagandist to tell a different story.[/quote]He wrote 16 paragraphs in his story about Z’s blow-up and one about it being Z’s second-straight solid start.

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    [quote name=AndCounting]I love that what’s getting lost in all of this is Zambrano saying Theriot can’t hit a fastball.[/quote]That was awesome. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=mb21]What I like about Z’s comments is that he says “We play like a AAA team.” He doesn’t say “They play like a AAA team.” He includes himself in it. Anybody getting on Z for that comment can’t read. He clearly said “we” as in he and every other player on the team are playing like a AAA team. And he’s right.[/quote]

    yeah, exactly right. According to Muskat he said “We played…” which is even more accurate, as this team has played like an MLB team for at least a few innings at a time this season.

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing), no, Sullivan is their GOOD FRIEND, and when we started paddling his little hobbit ass for all the fucking lies and misinformation he spreads with his milquetoast narratives, they got pissed at us and Aisle 424, leading to Sullivan showing up at Kitty O’Sheas at a Cubs blogger meet-up looking for us and telling one of the HJE regulars that he wanted to kick our asses. (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Sully obviously hasn’t seen the picture of you guys in your 3 Wolf Moon shirts or he would know, you’re not the kind of bloggers to be messed with. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=melissa]Sully obviously hasn’t seen the picture of you guys in your 3 Wolf Moon shirts or he would know, you’re not the kind of bloggers to be messed with. (dying laughing)[/quote](dying laughing)
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    [quote name=AndCounting]I would think that the story after today’s game would be that the Cubs aren’t good. It takes some kind of dedicated propagandist to tell a different story.[/quote](dying laughing)

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    [quote name=mb21]That was funny. As I’ve said here though, I’d have pitched to Pujols. Both days. The only batter I’m walking to lead off an inning is 1999-2004 Barry Bonds and even then I’d only do it if a righty was on the mound and only consider it in the 9th or later.

    Walk Pujols and the Cardinals run expectancy is about .94 runs. You’re giving them a run if you walk Pujols.[/quote]
    Even Brenly said, at the end of the telecast “you can’t put the winning run on base in a tie ballgame.” And I understand that the situational percentages support this. But I’m not sure that those situational percentages take Pujols-vs-a-crappy-reliever into account. Maybe they do, and I can see the sense in it.

    Yesterday seems a little different to me tho. there was already a runner on, right? so if you put Pujols on base then, he’s not going to score unless he screams down the basepaths and goes right through the other runner before that runner makes it home, splattering him all over the field.

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    I didn’t see the game, but Z’s specific complaint seems rather silly to me. Marmol has 2 pitches. He’s effective because he mixes them. He can’t just say, “This guy isn’t as good against this one pitch, so I’ll just throw that.”

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    [quote name=ACT]He can’t just say, “This guy isn’t as good against this one pitch, so I’ll just throw that.”[/quote]
    Adolfo Soriano disagrees (dying laughing)

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    But I’m not sure that those situational percentages take Pujols-vs-a-crappy-reliever into account. Maybe they do, and I can see the sense in it.

    Instead of .94 run expectancy, it’s probably 1.05 or something like that if you walk Pujols. Keep in mind that the shitty reliever is still in the game and he’s still a shitty reliever.

    The overwhelming majority of the time Pujols isn’t going to hit a home run. You take your chances there and you accept that if you get beat by Pujols you got beat by an awesome ballplayer.

    What happens if we walk Pujols and then Jay gets him to 2nd somehow. Craig gets him to 3rd and then Schumaker singles to win the game? I’d feel a lot worse having lost because we walked Pujols and let Schumaker beat us.

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    [quote name=ACT]I didn’t see the game, but Z’s specific complaint seems rather silly to me. Marmol has 2 pitches. He’s effective because he mixes them. He can’t just say, “This guy isn’t as good against this one pitch, so I’ll just throw that.”[/quote]Actually, with some guys, you can. Theriot’s not going to burn you even if you make a mistake with the FB. But you hang a breaking ball, and he can get the barrel on it. I think Z’s point was, with 2 strikes, you throw the pitch you know the guy has the most trouble with and force him to try and hit it. Challenge him. No need to get cute with Ryan fucking Theriot.

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    [quote name=ACT]I didn’t see the game, but Z’s specific complaint seems rather silly to me. Marmol has 2 pitches. He’s effective because he mixes them. He can’t just say, “This guy isn’t as good against this one pitch, so I’ll just throw that.”[/quote]I agree he shouldn’t have said what he did about that pitch. The rest of though is spot on.

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    [quote name=ACT]I didn’t see the game, but Z’s specific complaint seems rather silly to me. Marmol has 2 pitches. He’s effective because he mixes them. He can’t just say, “This guy isn’t as good against this one pitch, so I’ll just throw that.”[/quote]
    Hilly put down the 1 for fastball and Marmol shook him off. Theriot said he was looking for the slider. Marmol’s fastball isn’t shitty and I bet Theriot wouldn’t have pulled it into the left field corner, allowing the slow as molasses runner to score from first. I agree with Z that he should have went after Theriot’s weakness. Having said all that it was throwing Marmol under the bus and probably not the thing to say.

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    Yeah I definitely have no problem with venting about the general crappiness of the team, especially since he understandably feels he deserved a W.

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Actually, with some guys, you can. Theriot’s not going to burn you even if you make a mistake with the FB. But you hang a breaking ball, and he can get the barrel on it. I think Z’s point was, with 2 strikes, you throw the pitch you know the guy has the most trouble with and force him to try and hit it. Challenge him. No need to get cute with Ryan fucking Theriot.[/quote]I’m pretty sure any hitter can get around on a fastball if he knows it’s coming. The fastball is as good a pitch as it is because the batter isn’t sure it’s coming. If Theriot knew Marmol was throwing nothing but fastballs there’s a very good chance the game is tied anyway.

    I think the idea that so and so can’t hit a fastball is a bit crazy anyway. Every player can hit a fastball. If you can’t hit a fastball, you don’t move past low A. It’s doubtful you’d even be drafted.

    But Z was frustrated as Hill said and he was second guessing Marmol. It happens.

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  88. Mercurial Outfielder

    Has anyone gone back through the Pitch F/X data to see how Z pitched Theriot today? Theriot was 0-4 before he smoked that slider.

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  89. Josh

    From what the radio guys said, Marmol threw two sliders that didn’t slide before that. He got Berkman on three awesome sliders the day before, but if his slider wasn’t working, he should have given Ryan the heat, right? Marmol seemed stubborn, sticking to his slider in that case, so it seemed like a bad call, maybe that’s all Z meant by that. I mean the team just lost a close game leading to second consecutive sweep, how can the management really fault him for being angry?

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Has anyone gone back through the Pitch F/X data to see how Z pitched Theriot today? Theriot was 0-4 before he smoked that slider.[/quote]1st plate appearance: 4-seamer, 3 sinking fastballs

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    4th PA: 3 sinking fastballs, 4-seamer

    Total: 6 sinkers, 4 4-seamers, changeup

    So Zambrano had no problem throwing Theriot fastballs today. (dying laughing)

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    So 10 fastballs and 1 offspeed pitch. I think I’ll trust Z’s judgment on this one. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=mb21]4th PA: 3 sinking fastballs, 4-seamer

    Total: 6 sinkers, 4 4-seamers, changeup

    So Zambrano had no problem throwing Theriot fastballs today. (dying laughing)[/quote]No kidding. Here it is, hit it, tough guy. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]So 7 fastballs and 1 offspeed pitch. I think I’ll trust Z’s judgment on this one. (dying laughing)[/quote]To play devil’s advocate here, game on the line, Marmol’s best pitch is obviously his slider, do you want him throwing Theriot a pitch that isn’t his best or going after him with the best? Let’s keep in mind that few pitchers (if any at all) have been as difficult to hit as Marmol has been in his career as a reliever. I trust Zambrano to throw the pitches he thinks he needs to throw to get the batter out, but I also trust marmol to throw the pitches he thinks he needs to. He’s earned it.

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    That being said, obviously the pre-game discussion with the pitchers was about throwing Theriot fastballs. Z threw him 6 4seam fastball, 4 2seam fastballs and a changeup. So when pitchers and catchers got together it’s obvious the discussion with Theriot was throw fastballs.

    Still, I trust Marmol.

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    [quote name=mb21]That being said, obviously the pre-game discussion with the pitchers was about throwing Theriot fastballs. Z threw him 6 4seam fastball, 4 2seam fastballs and a changeup. So when pitchers and catchers got together it’s obvious the discussion with Theriot was throw fastballs.

    Still, I trust Marmol.[/quote]I suppose that’s fair. But now imagine that you’re Z and you’ve just watched Marmol’s hanging sliders cost you a W after pitching two straight gems. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I suppose that’s fair. But now imagine that you’re Z and you’ve just watched Marmol’s hanging sliders cost you a W after pitching two straight gems. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Last year’s angry Z would have broke his bat in half and stabbed Marmol with the shrapnel.

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I suppose that’s fair. But now imagine that you’re Z and you’ve just watched Marmol’s hanging sliders cost you a W after pitching two straight gems. (dying laughing)[/quote]Not only that, but just the frustration from the the team’s performance overall. I don’t blame Z. I think he should have left Marmol out of it or that sequence, but I don’t really care. Marmol’s an adult. He can take care of himself and I imagine he’ll talk about his pitch selection tomorrow. I understand where Z is coming from. I’m surprised we haven’t heard players lash out before this.

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  99. Bubba Biscuit

    I think also included in his anger is that the defense was heavily adjusted to Theriot not being able to pull his fastball.

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    [quote name=Bubba Biscuit]I think also included in his anger is that the defense was heavily adjusted to Theriot not being able to pull his fastball.[/quote]
    Very good point, left fielder was in East St. Louis.

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    [quote name=Bubba Biscuit]I think also included in his anger is that the defense was heavily adjusted to Theriot not being able to pull his fastball.[/quote]Hadn’t considered that, but good point. Colvin had to run from Rolla to get to Theriot’s double.

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  102. Berselius

    [quote name=melissa]Haugh stepping up to call for the suspension/trade and cue the Hendry public admonishment. He’s in deep draft prep, why pickup the phone?[/quote]
    It’s not like the Cubs have to worry about the top guy they want to pick going before them.

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    [quote name=melissa]Haugh stepping up to call for the suspension/trade and cue the Hendry public admonishment. He’s in deep draft prep, why pickup the phone?[/quote]David Haugh is entirely clueless. I am surprised he has survived to adulthood.

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]David Haugh is entirely clueless. I am surprised he has survived to adulthood.[/quote]Haugh got totally slapped down in his comments, something like 32 -2 against. Hilarious, good luck with your column.

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  105. melissa

    Good for Rozner he is saying suspension is unwarranted and what Z said was true. He and Hanley are on the radio and they’re agreeing about Haugh’s column being ridiculous.

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    [quote name=melissa]Good for Rozner he is saying suspension is unwarranted and what Z said was true. He and Hanley are on the radio and they’re agreeing about Haugh’s column being ridiculous.[/quote]
    I caught a little around 6 AM; couldn’t tell who it was with Hanley but I was pleased to see neither of them jumping on the drive-Z-out-of-town train that Haugh and Sullivan are conducting.

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  107. Dr. Aneus Taint

    STOP THE NAMECALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS?
    Join us for complete MLB coverage at SB Nation’s Baseball Nation
    by Al Yellon on Jun 6, 2011 7:57 AM CDT upreply

    STOP THE NAMECALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS?
    Join us for complete MLB coverage at SB Nation’s Baseball Nation
    by Al Yellon on Jun 6, 2011 7:58 AM CDT upreply

    Apparently once per minute.

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  108. melissa

    Gordo was also on the radio and said it wasn’t a “typical” Z meltdown or tirade. Said Z seemed more “premeditated”
    In what he said. He also said Z was right but I don’t know if he took that same tone in print.

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  109. Suburban kid

    [quote name=Mish]Anyone get an email from PSN offering a free game download in thanks for their network getting hacked?[/quote]Is that what that was? I just deleted it.

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  110. melissa

    Holy shit even Stone said Z shouldn’t be suspended. He seems more concerned with bashing former draft picks even though he loves Wilken. He thinks Cubs have player development problem.

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  111. Mish

    That was pretty awesome Rice, good work with the poem.

    I’m also assuming there will be an article from the Heckler along the lines of “Zambrano publicly apologizes to all AAA teams for insult in tirade against Cubs.”

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  112. Berselius

    [quote name=Mish]Anyone get an email from PSN offering a free game download in thanks for their network getting hacked?[/quote]
    Aye, they announced that they were going to do this a while ago. I remember hearing good things about Little Big Planet (one of the free download options) a while back.

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  113. Berselius

    [quote name=melissa]Holy shit even Former Playgirl model Stone said Z shouldn’t be suspended. He seems more concerned with bashing former draft picks even though he loves Wilken. He thinks Cubs have player development problem.[/quote]
    Gotta get the nomenclature right. -1

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    [quote name=Berselius]Aye, they announced that they were going to do this a while ago. I remember hearing good things about Little Big Planet (one of the free download options) a while back.[/quote]
    I haven’t been keeping up since I don’t use PSN all that much but of the games that they listed, this is #1 on my list (and I might not even play it all that much). Will have to look at reviews for the other titles to figure out which is worth getting.

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  115. Rice Cube

    [quote name=jtsunami]Picture taken from inside the clubhouse after yesterday’s loss:
    [/quote]
    Looks like Koyie had been using his table saw again.

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  116. melissa

    [quote name=Berselius]Gotta get the nomenclature right. -1[/quote]
    Thank you, I’ll be skipping dinner tonight and I’m publicly apologizing to all other people who comment on the interwebz. I’ve let you all down. I want to let the powers that be here at OBV know that I will invoke my no trade clause if you attempt to trade me to BCB.

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  117. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=jtsunami](dying laughing) wtf[/quote]
    That’s the place Bob Stoops’ and Landry Jones’ heads will be in a few months.

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  118. Rice Cube

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/06/carlos-zambrano-calls-the-cubs-embarrassing/

    All of this led to me explaining to them β€” as my wife listened in from the other room wondering why I engage in these conversations with the kids β€” about how Zambrano more or less flips out once a year and beats up coolers and fights with his teammates and stuff. I think I started it with the idea of teaching the kids a lesson about composure and good sportsmanship, but it really just made them think that Zambrano was awesome. I pretty much fail as a father.

    (dying laughing)

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  119. mb21

    I just noticed that the commenters on ESPN, mlb.com and the Tribune are more intelligent than the ones over on Craig’s site these days. (dying laughing)

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  120. Rice Cube

    A lot of folks still harping on Z calling out Marmol (which I agree he shouldn’t have done even if it was veiled) but the WPA needle kind of shows who gets at least some of the blame.

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  121. Berselius

    This whole “Z calls out Marmol” stuff seems pretty overblown. Seeing it phrased the way it has been you’d think Z said Marmol sucks and told him to fuck off for blowing his precious W.

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    [quote name=Berselius]This whole “Z calls out Marmol” stuff seems pretty overblown. Seeing it phrased the way it has been you’d think Z said Marmol sucks and told him to fuck off for blowing his precious W.[/quote]
    Someone on my facebook feed made the point that in the first Marmol bedshitting, Z actually reached out and comforted Marmol. After this second one, I definitely don’t think Z called Marmol out by name but just by process of association, the media had their story.

    I don’t understand how Z can be the bad guy in all this. He pitched 7 solid innings to keep the Cubs in the lead. Why shouldn’t he be angry? And the thing is, he didn’t even sound that angry in the audio clip. If that’s angry Z I don’t want to see what happens when he really does Hulk out.

    No wait, yes I do. Die, Gatorade machine!

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  123. Dr. Aneus Taint

    If Lindor is available, he’s the quintessential letdown pick for CHC. If he’s not, look for some 5th rounder that’s rumored to go before CHC’s second pick.

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    He doesn’t have that much of a scowl and didn’t really raise his voice. Sounds a bit abrupt and terse but not that angry. And I definitely don’t think he meant to call out Marmol but he was correct in the fact that the momentum shifted.

    I just don’t see how you can get 16+ paragraphs of hate per writer out of that one minute clip.

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  125. Mercurial Outfielder

    I still think it’s hilarious that Z threw Theriot 10 fastballs and then lets everyone know Theriot can’t hit fastballs.

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  126. Mish

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]If Lindor is available, he’s the quintessential letdown pick for CHC. If he’s not, look for some 5th rounder that’s rumored to go before CHC’s second pick.[/quote]
    If I were the other 29 teams, I’d start floating rumors taht they highly value certain4th and 5th round talents just to prevent the Cubs from drafting like a normal team (not that they need much help).

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  127. Mish

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]So it’s the day of the draft and we’re talking about Zambrano and Marmol?[/quote]
    The Cubs couldn’t ask for a better draft day gift. Obscure their surely-awful selection with petty clubhouse BS.

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  128. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=dylanj]when is mayo going to post a Paul Sullivan has a problem?[/quote]As soon as I finish my last seminar paper, i.e. around 2:30 tomorrow morning. (dying laughing)

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  129. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Pirates are apparently gung ho on Gerrit Cole.[/quote]That’s perverse.

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  130. mb21

    [quote name=jtsunami]mb, what’s the reason for having a .net domain as opposed to .com?[/quote]When we were talking about this site and came up with a name and a domain, the .com one was taken. I’ve always been partial to .net anyway. Another Cubs Blog was anothercubsblog.net and on one time (maybe even still) owned anothercubsblog.com and obviously own anothercubsblog.org (where the 2005-2009 archives are now). .com stands for commercial and I never thought of ACB as a commercial site. I’m actually kind of surprised that .com rules the domain world, but I guess it’s an example of people just doing what people before them did.

    It doesn’t matter. Like I said, if .com was available this one would be .com. My personal preference is .net, but it’s not a big deal.

    Some people will say there’s a difference when it comes to search results, but I have a very hard time believing that. Others say it’s not true. If you search Cubs in google in a clean browser the typical hits are at the top. BCB is on page 3 and ACB is the next Cubs blog and it’s at the beginning of page 5.

    Why are you asking?

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  131. Rice Cube

    [quote name=dylanj]paul ended our email fight by saying i am clueless for suggesting he has a problem with Z[/quote]

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    [quote name=Berselius]This whole “Z calls out Marmol” stuff seems pretty overblown. Seeing it phrased the way it has been you’d think Z said Marmol sucks and told him to fuck off for blowing his precious W.[/quote]He also kicked Marmol’s puppy.

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  133. Rice Cube

    So I noticed that there still are no analyses of why Tyler Colvin was leaving left field unmanned…

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  134. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mish]If I were the other 29 teams, I’d start floating rumors taht they highly value certain4th and 5th round talents just to prevent the Cubs from drafting like a normal team (not that they need much help).[/quote]
    The problem is that it’s impossible to determine which mid-round spare CHC is targetting.

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  135. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]So I noticed that there still are no analyses of why Tyler Colvin was leaving left field unmanned…[/quote]I don’t know, but I know someone pointed this out already: the defense was shaded toward the other way. Throwing a fastball was probably the best pitch in that situation. Oh well.

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  136. Suburban kid

    [quote name=Rice Cube]So I noticed that there still are no analyses of why Tyler Colvin was leaving left field unmanned…[/quote]They were playing Theriot to hit to the opposite field. Clearly it was way too big of a shift.

    Actually, I can see it if they were going to throw all fastballs, but…

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  137. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=dylanj]paul ended our email fight by saying i am clueless for suggesting he has a problem with Z[/quote]Prove him wrong. Shut you right up.

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  138. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Suburban kid](dying laughing) @ Wayne Rooney’s hair transplant.[/quote]It’s awful. What an ass.

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  139. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]I don’t know, but I know someone pointed this out already: the defense was shaded toward the other way. Throwing a fastball was probably the best pitch in that situation. Oh well.[/quote][quote name=Suburban kid]They were playing Theriot to hit to the opposite field. Clearly it was way too big of a shift.

    Actually, I can see it if they were going to throw all fastballs, but…[/quote]
    I guess this gets into game theory, but why have that much of an overshift if Tony Campana is capable of warp speed? Unfortunately I guess you can’t exactly signal the outfield to un-shift prior to the pitch because then Theriot pretty much knows it won’t be a fastball…

    I think I’m more upset about this than normal because A) Z got screwed out of a win again and B) the media circus ensued because of it.

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  140. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=dylanj]does anyone here have much hope for this LeSpellcheck guy? He doesnt seem like much[/quote]He’s going to have to get in the cage with Rudy. His swing is way too long. He’ll get hammered with 2 seamers on the inner third until he shortens up that swing. Right now, he strides short, swings long, and pulls his head off the ball.

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  141. WenningtonsGorillaCock

    As promised, here’s a link to video of Rickett’s speech on Sat for the Thanks for Letting Us Fleece You Day. The speech was unremarkable, except for an odd reference to Super Sam Fuld. I’m not sure Tom is aware that Fuld plays for another organization (dying laughing)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce5EdJsGDbY

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  142. Berselius

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]The problem is that it’s impossible to determine which mid-round spare CHC is targetting.[/quote]
    We can probably narrow it down to middle relief prospects.

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  143. Mish

    Isn’t it strange to include Bautista above ^^^ given how it took to his age 29 season before he became a truly good player?

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  144. Mercurial Outfielder

    Why is Hendry even talking to these guys? Why can the fans realize these guys are just trying to instigate shit and drive Z out of town, while Hendry cannot? And why isn’t Hendry prepping for the draft? And why can Hendry not talk about shit like this with tossing a player under the bus?

    I find it highly ironic that Hendry would decry Z as a bad teammate for trashing Marmol, while Hendry is trashing Z.

    I’ve had it. HENDRY OUT.

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  145. Berselius

    Hanley

    I saw that and wondered why the fuck Hanley Ramirez had anything to say about this, before I remembered (dying laughing)

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  146. Rice Cube

    Were they watching the same interview I was? Z didn’t blow up. He wasn’t even that angry. WTF?

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  147. ZappBrannigan

    I was really surprised when I listened to the audio given that the words “blow-up,” “tantrum,” and “yelled” have been making the rounds. I actually had to turn up my speakers because Z was so soft-spoken. That was a very controlled, calm (and necessary) criticism of a bad team.
    Why people the idiot hack journalists like Sullivan and Woj are so up in arms about it is completely beyond me.

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  148. Suburban kid

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Were they watching the same interview I was? Z didn’t blow up. He wasn’t even that angry. WTF?[/quote]RC, he looked in the direction of Marmol’s locker. Everyone knows this.

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  149. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Suburban kid]Who did Hendry talk to besides Haugh?[/quote]Apparently, Levine.

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  150. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=ZappBrannigan]I was really surprised when I listened to the audio given that the words “blow-up,” “tantrum,” and “yelled” have been making the rounds. I actually had to turn up my speakers because Z was so soft-spoken. That was a very controlled, calm (and necessary) criticism of a bad team.
    Why people the idiot hack journalists like Sullivan and Woj are so up in arms about it is completely beyond me.[/quote]Because they want Z out of town.

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  151. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Suburban kid]RC, he looked in the direction of Marmol’s locker. Everyone knows this.[/quote]
    I propose that WGC or any other season ticket holder, the next time Ricketts holds a “tour the facilities” event, should map the locker room so we can determine exactly which locker Z was looking at (dying laughing)

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  152. Suburban kid

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]It’s awful. What an ass.[/quote]It looks exactly the same as his real hair five years ago–i.e., still half bald. I don’t know, but if I’m going to have a hair transplant, I’m going to cover ALL my head.

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  153. Berselius

    [quote name=Mish]So on the right side we have:

    Miles
    Hanley
    Rozner

    And the wrong:
    Sullivan
    Haugh
    Wojewski
    Levine

    Who else?[/quote]
    You forgot FPM Steve Stone and Brenly on Z’s side. And Poland.

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  154. Rice Cube

    I think Muskat was comparatively neutral in her blog but she did say Z spoke loudly and clearly and that the words added to a bad mood.

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  155. Aisle424

    [quote name=Berselius]You forgot FPM Steve Stone and Brenly on Z’s side. And Poland.[/quote]
    Silvy was anti-Z this morning. I couldn’t tell for sure where Waddle was, but I think he was pro since he declared “Trade him to the Reds!” and he’s a Cincinnati guy.

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