Getting to Know: Andrew Cashner

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Name: Andrew Cashner 

Position: Starting Pitcher

Bats/Throws: Right/Right

Opening Day age: 24

Uniform Number:  48

Does he celebrate on September 11th every year?: Well, it IS his birthday, so I would imagine so.  Wouldn’t you?

Where Does He Rank Among National League Fifth Starters?: 9th

The good news is that Beyond the Box Score has him rated above every other 5th starter in the NL Central except Mike Leake of the Reds (5th). Cashner comes in ahead of Chris Narveson in Milwaukee (10th), Kyle McClellan in St. Louis (11th), Charlie Morton in Pittsburgh (14th) and Nelson Figueroa in Houston (15th).

The bad news is that he comes in behind Tom Gorzellany, but just barely.

Projections:

PROJECTION IP K BB HR ERA FIP
Steamer 80 69 33 7 4.12 3.95
Oliver 70.0 59 33 6 3.94 4.04
ZiPS 68.0 59 34 6 3.84 4.11
Marcel 52.0 46 22 6 4.24 4.25
Fans 125.0 113 60 15 4.06 4.44
CAIRO 56.6 48 26 6 4.44 4.47
Guru 54.5 47 25 7 4.62 4.52
PECOTA 78.6 60 45 8 4.75 4.71
CBS 54.1 50 30 8 4.81 4.94
RotoChamp 54.0 50 30 8 4.43 5.04
Average 69 60 34 8 4.33 4.45

He’s kind of all over the place in the projections, so it’s hard to know what to make of them.  PECOTA doesn’t seem to like him much and the Fantasy sites seem to really dislike him, but if he can even match the lower projections here, I’d have to think we couldn’t be totally disappointed in him.

Baseball-Reference.com’s Most similar pitcher: Not enough data.

Why We Might Like Him:

  • He’s the Cubs’ first round draft pick from 2008, so we assume he has some skills

  • He produced a combined 2.79 ERA in the minors since 2008, including three dominant starts in AAA before he got called to the majors

  • His presence on the roster means an absence of Carlos Silva

Why We Might Hate Him:

  • He is a rookie and he is going to make rookie mistakes.  Cubs fans don’t like rookie mistakes.

  • He walks a few too many people to make us comfortable.  Those walks on windy days at Wrigley will haunt him.

  • This may only be me, but I’m already tired of people referring to him as Ca$hner or simply $ner.

If You Rearrange the Letters in His Name You Get: A NEW NERD CRASH

What Cubs Blogosphere Thinks of Him:

Cubs f/x

I keep reading about Andrew Cashner being a ground ball pitcher. In the sense that every pro pitcher is a ground ball pitcher, it is true. He’s been just average at each professional level, for the league (non age-adjusted).

Bleed Cubbie Blue

Cashner was being groomed for the rotation throughout his minor league tenure — he made only four relief appearances and 39 starts before being called up last May to the major league bullpen. Outside of two major meltdowns when he allowed six runs in an inning or less, he was quite solid in relief.

Desipio

Cashner was a starter almost exclusively in the minors (39 starts in 43 minor league games) so it’s not foreign to him.  Though strict pitch counts in the minors left him with a crazy stat line.  He went 10-7 with a 2.79 ERA in those 39 starts.  Seventeen decisions in 39 starts with a sub 3.00 ERA?

Goat Riders of the Apocalypse

I could see Cashner opening the season as the fourth or fifth starter for the Cubs, and to be honest, I’m rooting for that. Then again, if the Cubs have issues getting the ball to Carlos Marmol, Cashner’s presence in the bullpen might become a necessity, and I would completely understand.


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  1. Rice Cube

    Nice write-up. The rapid-fire of posts in your first two days of new existence is very impressive.

    Just FYI: Koyie is now OPSing .202 (dying laughing)

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  2. Aisle424

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Nice write-up. The rapid-fire of posts in your first two days of new existence is very impressive.

    Just FYI: Koyie is now OPSing .202 (dying laughing)[/quote]
    He’ll be named the starter any day now.

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  3. Aisle424

    [quote name=Manni Stats]BCB? Fuck off.[/quote]
    I try to find a wide cross section for the quotes. And that includes the kool-aid drinkers.

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  4. Berselius

    The projection systems always have a tough time with pitchers with uncertain roles. I wish projection systems would give 3 sets of numbers for pitchers – as a starter, as a reliever, and combined.

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  5. Aisle424

    Just got myself tickets to AT&T Park for Giants vs. Rockies on Willie Mays’ 80th birthday. Looking forward to seeing that stadium.

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  6. Berselius

    That said, given the IP listings it looks like most of the systems think he’s a pretty average relief pitcher, which doesn’t say much for his effective ERA/FIP as a starter.

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  7. Mish

    [quote name=Aisle424]I try to find a wide cross section for the quotes. And that includes the kool-aid drinkers.[/quote]I’m just fucking around.

    Seriously, though, knock it off. You’ve been warned.

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  8. Aisle424

    [quote name=Berselius]The projection systems always have a tough time with pitchers with uncertain roles. I wish projection systems would give 3 sets of numbers for pitchers – as a starter, as a reliever, and combined.[/quote]
    That and there really isn’t a huge set of data even from the minors to extrapolate from in his case.

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  9. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Aisle424]Just got myself tickets to AT&T Park for Giants vs. Rockies on Willie Mays’ 80th birthday. Looking forward to seeing that stadium.[/quote]
    I was there once upon a time when Barry Bonds was still playing. It is an excellent place to watch a game. Not a bad seat in the house, and absolutely gorgeous, even with that bigass glove and the giant Coke bottle in the bleachers. Enjoy!

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  10. Aisle424

    [quote name=Rice Cube]I was there once upon a time when Barry Bonds was still playing. It is an excellent place to watch a game. Not a bad seat in the house, and absolutely gorgeous, even with that bigass glove and the giant Coke bottle in the bleachers. Enjoy![/quote]
    It will be nice to see it without having a real rooting interest. It makes it easier to appreciate without being pissed that the Cubs are losing.

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  11. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Aisle424]It will be nice to see it without having a real rooting interest. It makes it easier to appreciate without being pissed that the Cubs are losing.[/quote]

    Root for the Giants.

    /Bay Area bias

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  12. Berselius

    FWIW I have no problem with them doing stuff on Sheffield if it’s closed off already anyway. There are already half a hundred tshirt etc. dealers out there. Let the Cubs get it on it.

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  13. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=melissa]The Cubs never ending mission to cram 10 pounds of shit into a 5 pound bag continues.[/quote]We should make an Urban Dictionary for this:

    Koyie: 10 pounds of shit crammed into a 5 pound bag. ex: v.”Man, Ben got drunk before he went on that date with Kim, and he totally Koyied it.” “That discount auto mechanic you told me about Koyied the fuck out of my engine and now I have to take it to the dealer.” adj.”Don’t even consider getting on the 290 at 5 p.m.; it’ll be completely Koyied.” “Dude, we were at Kitty Kat Lounge and the lounge singer was freshly post-op and that face was Koyied.”

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  14. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]FWIW I have no problem with them doing stuff on Sheffield if it’s closed off already anyway. There are already half a hundred tshirt etc. dealers out there. Let the Cubs get it on it.[/quote]Yeah, that’s all fine. But I would rather he worry about real problems like Koyie Hill being on the roster and the farm being gutted first.

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  15. melissa

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, that’s all fine. But I would rather he worry about real problems like Koyie Hill being on the roster and the farm being gutted first.[/quote]
    Exactly. First priority is the carnival. I guess I’m just sick of hearing about it. Just like the big deal being made today about Vienna Beef supplying the hot dogs again. Woo Fucking Hoo. BFD.

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  16. wv23

    [quote name=dylanj]so Evan Longoria had an AK-47 stolen from his house. Why on earth he needed that is beyond me[/quote]to shoot people. dumbass.

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  17. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=dylanj]so Evan Longoria had an AK-47 stolen from his house. Why on earth he needed that is beyond me[/quote]Ak-47 is the tool.
    Don’t make me act a mothafuckin’ fool.

    /because SK isn’t here to do it

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  18. melissa

    [quote name=dylanj]so Evan Longoria had an AK-47 stolen from his house. Why on earth he needed that is beyond me[/quote]
    To keep people from stealing his shit.

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  19. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, that’s all fine. But I would rather he worry about real problems like Koyie Hill being on the roster and the farm being gutted first.[/quote]
    It’s not like there’s just one guy in the entire Cubs organization that deals with everything from Beanie Baby promotions and floppy hat day to signing worthless catchers. Unless that’s what Ari Kaplan’s job really is (dying laughing)

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  20. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=wv23]to shoot people. dumbass.[/quote]You’re outta here. That is the worst thing to everyhappen on this blog. I know exactly who you are. LSA.

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  21. Berselius

    In that same article

    The Cubs owe Silva $11.5 million, but sources said they will receive $1.5 million from the Mariners this year as part of the Silva-Milton Bradley swap a year ago. Seattle also is responsible for the $2 million buyout. The Mariners paid the Cubs $5.5 million last year, which was spent on signing free agents Marlon Byrd and Xavier Nady.

    I guess the numbers are backwards from Cot’s, which says it was 3.5 last year and 5.5 this year, and nothing on the buyout. It works out the same.

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  22. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]It’s not like there’s just one guy in the entire Cubs organization that deals with everything from Beanie Baby promotions and floppy hat day to signing worthless catchers. Unless that’s what Ari Kaplan’s job really is (dying laughing)[/quote]I get that. It just seems that there’s an awful lot of attention being focused on this shitheap on Clark and Addison and not a lot being focused on that shitheap that plays in the shitheap on Clark and Addison. Obvious caveats about an outsider’s persepective & therefore, etc. (dying laughing)

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  23. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]In that same article

    I guess the numbers are backwards from Cot’s, which says it was 3.5 last year and 5.5 this year, and nothing on the buyout. It works out the same.[/quote]Is that Sullivan again? He really is one stupid fucking asshole.

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  24. melissa

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Is that Sullivan again? He really is one stupid fucking asshole.[/quote]
    (dying laughing) How did you guess?

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  25. wv23

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]You’re outta here. That is the worst thing to everyhappen on this blog. I know exactly who you are. LSA.[/quote]men’s health magazine agrees.

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  26. Mercurial Outfielder

    It’s fucking amazing to me that a guy who has been on the beat as long as this spiteful little troll can’t comprehend simple fucking math. (dying laughing)

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  27. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Is that Sullivan again? He really is one stupid fucking asshole.[/quote]
    FWIW, it’s not like Cot’s contract numbers were brought down from a mountain, carved on stone tablets. I’d trust the Hobbitton Gazette this time.

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  28. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]FWIW, it’s not like Cot’s contract numbers were brought down from a mountain, carved on stone tablets. I’d trust the Hobbitton Gazette this time.[/quote]No, I’m talking about that bit about the money from Seattle being spent on FA. That’s just not how things work. Sullivan’s once again playing fast and loose with the facts.

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  29. wv23

    [quote name=Berselius]FWIW, it’s not like Cot’s contract numbers were brought down from a mountain, carved on stone tablets. I’d trust the Hobbitton Gazette this time.[/quote]burn him!

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  30. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]No, I’m talking about that bit about the money from Seattle being spent on FA. That’s just not how things work. Sullivan’s once again playing fast and loose with the facts.[/quote]
    He’s a dumbass and he’s said that a bunch of times in the past few days, but at least this time he brought up the Seattle money and didn’t try to include Marlon Byrd’s salary and Todd Ricketts’s hot dog waste in the total. Anyway, I’m done arguing about this (dying laughing).

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  31. AndCounting

    Great work, Tim. Although you did admit something else fans are going to detest about Cashner: he’s been known to eat dinner with reckless abandon.

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  32. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=AndCounting]Great work, Tim. Although you did admit something else fans are going to detest about Cashner: he’s been known to eat dinner with reckless abandon.[/quote]I’m sure Certified Badass Motivating Leader of Men Mike Quade will fix that. He might even use the f-word to show his Baldy McGrindy bonafides.

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  33. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=wv23]i’m pretty sure you people don’t actually know andrew cashner.[/quote]Yeah, but you can imagine how cool it would be if we did.

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  34. wv23

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, but you can imagine how cool it would be if we did.[/quote]yes, i imagine that often.

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  35. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=wv23]yes, i imagine that often.[/quote]I know you do. We keep the emails you send.

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  36. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]Quade doesn’t see need to pretend Cubs have speed

    Manager backs off talk of team running more this season

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0329-cubs-bits–20110328,0,5658997.story%5B/quote%5DThat's good to hear. It could have gotten real ugly if they thought they were going to swipe a lot of bases. I’m guessing the whopping total of 7 stolen bases this spring compared to 8 caught stealings kind of convinced him this team couldn’t run on Michael Barrett.

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  37. mb21

    [quote name=GBTS]Site looks fan-fucking-tastic on a droid phone.[/quote]Thanks. Hopefully some others will let us know how it looks on their devices. The login module was at the top, right?

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  38. mb21

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I know you do. We keep the emails you send.[/quote]Which reminds me I have a new site starting called Emails From WV23.

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  39. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]He and are I tight, yo.[/quote]Have you interviewed Crane Kenney and Mike Fontenot?

    Shut you right up.

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  40. Rice Cube

    There is a good chance Mark Prior sees himself on the Yankees’ opening day roster. This makes me happy.

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  41. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]Which reminds me I have a new site starting called Emails From WV23.[/quote]
    I thought we were shuttering this blog next week to open it.

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  42. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Have you interviewed Crane Kenney and Mike Fontenot?

    Shut you right up.[/quote]
    Are either of them an Executive Chairman?

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  43. shawndgoldman

    [quote name=wv23]i’m pretty sure you people don’t actually know andrew cashner.[/quote]
    Well that’s the point of the post. Now he’s my friend!

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  44. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]There is a good chance Mark Prior sees himself on the Yankees’ opening day roster. This makes me happy.[/quote]He was sent down to A ball a little bit ago.

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  45. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]He was sent down to A ball a little bit ago.[/quote]
    Awww. Last time I ever listen to Phil Rogers.

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  46. Aisle424

    [quote name=Berselius]Are either of them an Executive Chairman?[/quote]
    I’ll say it again. Who is the Executive Chairman.

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  47. Aisle424

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Awww. Last time I ever listen to Phil Rogers.[/quote]
    You got it from Phil Rogers? Good rule of thumb, just assume everything the opposite of what Phil says is correct.

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  48. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Awww. Last time I ever listen to Phil Rogers.[/quote]I don’t think it was ever a possibility. If you read that espn article I linked he hadn’t pitched back to back days yet or shown he could come in during an inning. He still needs some time in the minors, but he’s probably closer than he ever has been.

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  49. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/13766/prior-still-wants-to-pitch-for-yankees-this-year[/quote]
    I was impressed with him in that one inning I saw on MLB.tv…I really hope they give him a shot. Too bad my Silva-for-Prior fantasy never came true.

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  50. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Aisle424]You got it from Phil Rogers? Good rule of thumb, just assume everything the opposite of what Phil says is correct.[/quote]

    Yeah, I know. RC fail.

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  51. Berselius

    [quote name=Aisle424]You got it from Phil Rogers? Good rule of thumb, just assume everything the opposite of what Phil says is correct.[/quote]
    +1

    Or is it -1? I was never able to grasp his sophisticated +/- system.

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  52. mb21

    424, this was my favorite part: #

    He is a rookie and he is going to make rookie mistakes. Cubs fans don’t like rookie mistakes.

    I meant to quote that earlier but forgot. Well done.

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  53. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]Are either of them an Executive Chairman?[/quote]Is that like a board member?

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  54. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Aisle424]You got it from Phil Rogers? Good rule of thumb, just assume everything the opposite of what Phil says is correct.[/quote]So what you’re saying is Paul Byrd isn’t a Big Time Slugger?

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  55. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]+1

    Or is it -1? I was never able to grasp his sophisticated +/- system.[/quote]What are the Cubs this season using the Phil Rogers +/- System?

    +1 for Garza
    -1 for Gorzelanny
    +1 for Pena
    -1 for Lee
    -1 for Lilly
    +1 for Wood
    -397 for Fuld

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  56. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]+1

    Or is it -1? I was never able to grasp his sophisticated +/- system.[/quote]Well ACB had 1,248 authors, and Obstructed View has 4, so OV is -1244.

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  57. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]What are the Cubs this season using the Phil Rogers +/- System?

    +1 for Garza
    -1 for Gorzelanny
    +1 for Pena
    -1 for Lee
    -1 for Lilly
    +1 for Wood
    -397 for Fuld[/quote]
    You forgot Silva. And Poland.

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  58. Aisle424

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Well ACB had 1,248 authors, and Obstructed View has 4, so OV is -1244.[/quote]
    Don’t forget Lakeview Nights. He’s worth +3,000,000 alone.

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  59. shawndgoldman

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Well ACB had 1,248 authors, and Obstructed View has 4, so OV is -1244.[/quote]
    WIN.

    EDIT: Oh, wait. I guess I’m supposed to give that a thumbs up now. Or something.

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  60. Aisle424

    [quote name=FullyKraeusened]Site does not work well on a Blackberry[/quote]
    It’s not working well on my Motorola RAZR either.

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  61. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Aisle424]Don’t forget Lakeview Nights. He’s worth +3,000,000 alone.[/quote]Truly, he was the Derosa of internet Cub fans.

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  62. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Aisle424]It’s not working well on my Motorola RAZR either.[/quote](dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)
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  63. FullyKraeusened

    Glad that the Cubs are going to offer new healthy food options this year like frozen kefir and vegatables and hummus so I can fight off the bacteria that gets into my system from the piss filled troughs they decided to keep last year.

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  64. mb21

    [quote name=Aisle424]It’s not working well on my Motorola RAZR either.[/quote]What exactly are you seeing when you access the site?

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  65. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Aisle424]

    I can’t get Obstructed View on this piece of shit phone![/quote]You should ask the state for money for a new phone. If they refuse, have Baldy McGrindy “talk to” them.

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  66. wv23

    [quote name=mb21]Which reminds me I have a new site starting called Emails From WV23.[/quote]do it. if you want to be rich.

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  67. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Aisle424]

    I can’t get Obstructed View on this piece of shit phone![/quote]
    Just put it in front of your face. Instant obstructed view!

    *bada bum*

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  68. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]What exactly are you seeing when you access the site?[/quote]Fat naked men.

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  69. mb21

    [quote name=Aisle424]I was just kidding.[/quote]Is the RAZR old? It sounds familiar, but I didn’t even bother with the modern phones until about a year ago. I’m anti-technology (dying laughing).

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  70. Aisle424

    [quote name=mb21]Is the RAZR old? It sounds familiar, but I didn’t even bother with the modern phones until about a year ago. I’m anti-technology (dying laughing).[/quote]
    Yeah, they were the thin flip phones that everyone had before the PDA phones took off.

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  71. AndCounting

    [quote name=Aisle424]

    I can’t get Obstructed View on this piece of shit phone![/quote]Holy shit, I’m literally choking right now. (dying laughing)

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  72. mb21

    So Koyie Hill’s wOBA after today’s game is .097. Seriously. In 35 plate appearances and a projected .290 wOBA, 1 standard deviation is .081. He’s more than 2 standard deviations away from his projected level of performance. Then consider spring training stats are usually inflated because it’s Arizona and you’re facing shitty players. It’s probably more like an expected .310 wOBA. Koyie Hill is not good at sports.

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  73. AndCounting

    [quote name=mb21]Is the RAZR old? It sounds familiar, but I didn’t even bother with the modern phones until about a year ago. I’m anti-technology (dying laughing).[/quote]It’s a pretty recent phone. Pretty sure JR used one on Dallas.

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  74. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]Is the RAZR old? It sounds familiar, but I didn’t even bother with the modern phones until about a year ago. I’m anti-technology (dying laughing).[/quote]
    I think they used them in Dallas, so they’re pretty recent.

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  75. mb21

    I really wanted to rank the seasons of Dallas the final week of ACB, but I just didn’t get around to it. Probably a good thing because there’s no way to top SK’s Jack Benny post.

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  76. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]Damn. You guys are good. I’m never going to live down calling Dallas a recent TV show, am I?[/quote]
    35 years is but a blip in geological time.

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  77. Aisle424

    [quote name=mb21]Damn. You guys are good. I’m never going to live down calling Dallas a recent TV show, am I?[/quote]
    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)

    I never knew where that meme started.

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  78. mb21

    Yeah, we were talking tv shows one time and people know that even though Dallas was one of those shitty shows, I really liked it. I said among recent television shows it’s one of the best. SK then asked, how old are you, 90?

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  79. GBTS

    [quote name=mb21]Thanks. Hopefully some others will let us know how it looks on their devices. The login module was at the top, right?[/quote]Yeah it was easy to log in, loads relatively quick and is easy to read.

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  80. mb21

    [quote name=GBTS]Yeah it was easy to log in, loads relatively quick and is easy to read.[/quote]Works fine on the iphone too. There’s probably no way to have it so it works on every device, but I’d like to look into ones that it doesn’t work well on.

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  81. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]Works fine on the iphone too. There’s probably no way to have it so it works on every device, but I’d like to look into ones that it doesn’t work well on.[/quote]

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  82. AndCounting

    [quote name=mb21]Works fine on the iphone too. There’s probably no way to have it so it works on every device, but I’d like to look into ones that it doesn’t work well on.[/quote]I made the idiotic mistake of requesting to view it in standard mode. Now I can’t get it back to mobile. Ever. (dying laughing)

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  83. shawndgoldman

    [quote name=mb21]Is the RAZR old? It sounds familiar, but I didn’t even bother with the modern phones until about a year ago. I’m anti-technology (dying laughing).[/quote]
    You need to get a DVR.

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    [quote name=AndCounting]I made the idiotic mistake of requesting to view it in standard mode. Now I can’t get it back to mobile. Ever. (dying laughing)[/quote]I did that on on my ipod and can’t get back there either. Suppose I should look into that as there has to be a simple fix for that one.

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  85. mb21

    [quote name=shawndgoldman]You need to get a DVR.[/quote]We finally got one about a year ago. It’s been nice. I know why people liked them for so long and don’t know why I refused to get one.

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  86. wv23

    [quote name=mb21]We finally got one about a year ago. It’s been nice. I know why people liked them for so long and don’t know why I refused to get one.[/quote]luddite

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  87. mb21

    [quote name=Aisle424][/quote]Surprised that isn’t the Cowboys or something.

    Did anyone have a favorite character other than JR? Without JR that show sucked.

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  88. shawndgoldman

    [quote name=mb21]We finally got one about a year ago. It’s been nice. I know why people liked them for so long and don’t know why I refused to get one.[/quote]
    Really? Nice. Does Ryno know?

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  89. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]When I was a kid I was on Dallas[/quote]He was a recent GM I enjoyed.

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  90. mb21

    [quote name=wv23]luddite[/quote](dying laughing) not really, just never needed one. Then we switched cable carriers and decided to go ahead and get one.

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  91. GW

    [quote name=mb21]Did anyone have a favorite character other than JR? Without JR that show sucked.[/quote]
    I think SK went to bed already.

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  92. mb21

    [quote name=Aisle424]Didn’t Dallas end with JR killing himself?

    What the hell was with that?[/quote]Yeah, but then they had a movie a few years later and JR was alive. They said he fired the gun into the mirror, but the series finale definitely implied he had committed suicide.

    But the money they could get by making another movie was too much so they changed it. Then they made another movie. Now TNT is rebooting the series with the Ewing grandchildren (JR and Bobby’s kids).

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  93. Berselius

    [quote name=shawndgoldman]Is this d20 based?[/quote]
    It should be like they had it on the Office. It comes with a game board and pieces but no rules. That’s Dallas.

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  94. AndCounting

    [quote name=Aisle424]Didn’t Dallas end with JR killing himself?

    What the hell was with that?[/quote]Spoiler alert, dumb ass. Some of us still haven’t caught up with the most recent shit.

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  95. mb21

    [quote name=shawndgoldman]Really? Nice. Does Ryno know?[/quote]HG was the other one who didn’t have one and I think he has one now too. We finally gave in.

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  96. mb21

    I also watched Falcon Crest for a short period of time so if you want to make fun of me for that, go ahead. That just wasn’t as good as Dallas though.

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  97. Aisle424

    [quote name=AndCounting]Spoiler alert, dumb ass. Some of us still haven’t caught up with the most recent shit.[/quote]
    Sorry. I always blurt out stuff without thinking. Rosebud was the sled.

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  98. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]I also watched Falcon Crest for a short period of time so if you want to make fun of me for that, go ahead. That just wasn’t as good as Dallas though.[/quote]Not recent enough.

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  99. AndCounting

    [quote name=mb21]I also watched Falcon Crest for a short period of time so if you want to make fun of me for that, go ahead. That just wasn’t as good as Dallas though.[/quote]I watched a little bit of that too. I dug the opening theme.

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  100. mb21

    [quote name=AndCounting]I watched a little bit of that too. I dug the opening theme.[/quote]Too bad that was the best part of the show. I’m thinking it was on right after Dallas for awhile.

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  101. mb21

    AC, any ideas how to clear the cache for the iphone/ipod? I think what I’ve read it sounds like that may help. I might look to add a link to that footer to get back there in the future if someone does that.

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  102. AndCounting

    [quote name=mb21]AC, any ideas how to clear the cache for the iphone/ipod? I think what I’ve read it sounds like that may help. I might look to add a link to that footer to get back there in the future if someone does that.[/quote]I’m going to check it out and see what I can do.

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  103. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]AC, any ideas how to clear the cache for the iphone/ipod? I think what I’ve read it sounds like that may help. I might look to add a link to that footer to get back there in the future if someone does that.[/quote]http://support.apple.com/kb/TA38615?viewlocale=en_US

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  104. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]You guys sure have a penchant for beating a meme to death (dying laughing)[/quote]And then we kill it again. (dying laughing)

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  105. Berselius

    [quote name=Rice Cube]You guys sure have a penchant for beating a meme to death (dying laughing)[/quote]
    It’s only a flesh wound

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  106. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Rice Cube]You guys sure have a penchant for beating a meme to death (dying laughing)[/quote]Is that like a meta-joke?

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  107. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=AndCounting]I tried clearing the cache and cookies (in Settings, Safari) but to no avail.[/quote]I’m all for finding the correct solution and everything, but you should smash your phone with a ball-peen hammer.

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  108. Doogolas

    The thing from Cubsfx seems wrong to me, severely wrong. Cashner had a 48.4% GB rate last year. MLB average is only 43%.

    Secondly, in the minors, his rates were slightly higher than that. He was over 50% at multiple levels, I remember because I followed him extremely closely. So I don’t get it. No, he’s not Brandon Webb, but he most certainly does get more grounders than most. Even if only 5% more, I’d say that’s fairly significant.

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  109. Berselius

    [quote name=Doug]The thing from Cubsfx seems wrong to me, severely wrong. Cashner had a 48.4% GB rate last year. MLB average is only 43%.

    Secondly, in the minors, his rates were slightly higher than that. He was over 50% at multiple levels, I remember because I followed him extremely closely. So I don’t get it. No, he’s not Brandon Webb, but he most certainly does get more grounders than most. Even if only 5% more, I’d say that’s fairly significant.[/quote]
    I think Harry was talking about his minor league career, where average GB rates tend to be higher.

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  110. Aisle424

    [quote name=Berselius]I think Harry was talking about his minor league career, where average GB rates tend to be higher.[/quote]
    Yes, that was taken from a post either shortly after or shortly before he debuted last year.

    There really hasn’t been a ton written on Cashner so finding snippets was more difficult than I thought it would be.

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  111. Doogolas

    Ah, OK. Well, I guess that’s a fair point then, I just felt it was worth noting that his GB rates carried over to the majors, which I imagine doesn’t happen for lot’s of guys.

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