[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]More and more are saying that the Jays have won it.[/quote]I first read this as “More and more are saying that the Jews have won it.” My brain must be feeling anti-semitic today.
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]More and more are saying that the Jays have won it.[/quote]I’ve been trying to find the rumors floating up until Boston was awarded the Dice-K posting bid win. I want to say it was constantly rumored to be Seattle and the Yankees. It ended up that both were WAY below the actual winning bid. So i don’t put much stock in the rumors. Also – considering the fact that Theo won the Dice-K bid it makes me wonder why the Cubs aren’t being rumored as winners more.
[quote name=JMan]I’ve been trying to find the rumors floating up until Boston was awarded the Dice-K posting bid win. I want to say it was constantly rumored to be Seattle and the Yankees. It ended up that both were WAY below the actual winning bid. So i don’t put much stock in the rumors. Also – considering the fact that Theo won the Dice-K bid it makes me wonder why the Cubs aren’t being rumored as winners more.[/quote] The silence around the team is deafening. Nobody knows shit about what the Cubs are doing. They could all just be sitting around and playing solitaire.
[quote name=Alvin]MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, NATIONAL WRITERS RT @nickcafardo: Cubs are not major players for Prince Fielder. Not ready to spend big.[/quote] (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)
[quote name=ACT]Also, this is the best song about waiting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02rHc9O94BM%5B/quote%5DThe Fugazi one is one of my favorites, but the early Stones are awfully good. I’d put the apples/oranges at about 50/50.
Cubs not being ready to “spend big” doesn’t exactly jive with the fact (reported in various places) that they made a significant bid for Whirling Darvish.
[quote name=fang2415]I first read this as “More and more are saying that the Jews have won it.” My brain must be feeling anti-semitic today.[/quote] Then that would mean the Cubs…just like I said. We’ve got Jews in our front office.
[quote name=ACT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz64hWng2vM[/quote]They must’ve had to get a drummer with quite a sense of balance not to fall off of that giant picnic table for a whole show.
While you guys are waiting around and watching Youtube videos, take a look at the worst Youtube video every made. I said I would do it a year ago and now that Ronnie made the HOF I felt I had to get off my ass and do it since I felt the need to pay tribute in some way. However, it is the dumbest thing every, so fair warning etc.
[quote name=Suburban kid]While you guys are waiting around and watching Youtube videos, take a look at the worst Youtube video every made. I said I would do it a year ago and now that Ronnie made the HOF I felt I had to get off my ass and do it since I felt the need to pay tribute in some way. However, it is the dumbest thing every, so fair warning etc.
[quote name=Suburban kid]While you guys are waiting around and watching Youtube videos, take a look at the worst Youtube video every made. I said I would do it a year ago and now that Ronnie made the HOF I felt I had to get off my ass and do it since I felt the need to pay tribute in some way. However, it is the dumbest thing every, so fair warning etc.
[quote name=Aisle424]Apparently, Sandusky’s lawyer was just making casual conversation when discussing why someone might have to shower with under-privileged children:
[quote name=mb21]I honestly wonder how Sandusky managed to find so many attorneys who are as fucked up as he is.[/quote]Maybe all the good lawyers turned him down.
[quote name=GBTS]I heard the Cubs aren’t even going to mow the grass next year either.[/quote]Well, with Zambrano in limbo and Pujols out of the division…
I always suspected that Santo and Flavor Flav were actually twins. They just had too much in common for it to be a coincidence.[/quote]I totally forgot to grab a “yeah boyeee”. It would have fit perfectly after “it always happens! I don’t know why!”
[quote name=Suburban kid]Well, with Zambrano in limbo and Pujols out of the division…[/quote]Why can’t Campana mow the lawn? He’d have it done in five seconds.
The Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters are expected to accept the posting price on star pitcher Yu Darvish, but not until just before the Tuesday 5 p.m. ET deadline.
To be fair that piece seems little more than a rehash of the rumors we’ve been hearing so far, nothing really new, and from what I can tell it’s not based on any sourcing from MLB itself (the only entity that actually knows), which is what Olney had when he broke the Red Sox-Matsuzaka thing. If MLB’s not leaking it yet, then the pundits are trying to piece this thing together based on what they’ve been told by sources within organizations that have bid. Which makes the following passage interesting:
There is a belief the Cubs also made a large bid on the right-handed pitcher but a number hasn’t been attached to their bid
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The Hall of Justice is on lockdown, nobody knows what the Superfriends bid, but based on the prevailing belief that the Cubs are not big players for anybody (except maybe Fielder, but even that goes back and forth daily) and with all the excitement coming from the Blue Jays camp, I think it possible everybody’s allowed themselves to get swayed in that direction.
Except me. I’m sticking to it this time. Cubs win the bid. Theo didn’t fuck around the first time with Dice-K, he blew everybody else out of the water. Why he would put up a half-ass bid and hope for the best seems unlike him. Like his predecessor maybe, but not him.
I’d like to see one season of Dexter where he gets sick of Harry’s code and goes on a killing spree. I was hoping that would happen when he started seeing his brother instead of Harry. Wasted oppportunity. I’m thinking that would have to be the penultimate season.
I’d also like to see a season where Deb knows about Dexter and is torn between her career and her family. That could go work well with my other idea, because she could easily rationalize what he’s doing if he’s abiding by Harry’s code.
So I guess I’d like to see the previous two ideas be implemented next season. Then in the final season, I think it should be all about Dexter on trial. The opening scene of the season would be him entering his plea for the murder of several people. Witnesses and psychiatrists could evoke flashbacks throughout the season. The last scene would be the jury foreman beginning to read the verdict.
The Hall of Justice is on lockdown, nobody knows what the Superfriends bid, but based on the prevailing belief that the Cubs are not big players for anybody (except maybe Fielder, but even that goes back and forth daily) and with all the excitement coming from the Blue Jays camp, I think it possible everybody’s allowed themselves to get swayed in that direction.
Except me. I’m sticking to it this time. Cubs win the bid. Theo didn’t fuck around the first time with Dice-K, he blew everybody else out of the water. Why he would put up a half-ass bid and hope for the best seems unlike him. Like his predecessor maybe, but not him.[/quote]I agree, partially. My feeling is the Cubs put up an aggressive, but reasonable bid given their finances, but the Blue Jays may have gone into stupid-money territory, and you can’t really compete with that. If the Blue Jays didn’t do something crazy, I think the Cubs have a reasonable chance. They’re seriously going to make us wait three whole days, aren’t they?
I think the Cubs put in a serious bid, but I don’t think they have the top offer. I’d think that even if Ricketts publicly stated that the team is going to spend $1 billion per offseason.
[quote name=Mish]Phil Rogers @ChiTribRogers Reports are saying that #Blue Jays have won Yu Darvish bidding. Most think the bid was more than the $51 mil for Daisuke.[/quote] When the Sox were tipped as the winners for Daisuke, the dollar figures were wrong by about $10 million (they underestimated Theo’s bid).
I don’t think the Cubs are out of this. Theo said he’d play things close to the vest, and he has.
I don’t think the Cubs are out of this. Theo said he’d play things close to the vest, and he has.
He either has decided it’s now time to play it close by the vest (possible) or the media is lazy (more likely in my opinion). Maybe a combination of both.
The really curious thing about Prince Fielder is that there seems to be no one even interested in driving up the price on him. Scott Boras isn’t even doing a good job lying about the market for Prince. Someone might actually sign him to a reasonable contract.
[quote name=AndCounting]The really curious thing about Prince Fielder is that there seems to be no one even interested in driving up the price on him. Scott Boras isn’t even doing a good job lying about the market for Prince. Someone might actually sign him to a reasonable contract.[/quote]Yeah, the book was only like 73 pages and barely even exaggerated all of the facts.
[quote name=josh]Yeah, the book was only like 73 pages and barely even exaggerated all of the facts.[/quote]It’s a book on why teams should want Prince Fielder. That’s just a really long way of saying no one is offering very much.
[quote name=AndCounting]The really curious thing about Prince Fielder is that there seems to be no one even interested in driving up the price on him. Scott Boras isn’t even doing a good job lying about the market for Prince. Someone might actually sign him to a reasonable contract.[/quote]I don’t think there’s much of a market for him and there’s no way he’s getting a 10 year deal.
[quote name=josh]She was more attractive in her younger days:
[/quote]Like most people who are famous for reasons other than being good-looking, she was never very good-looking. That’s why I was so surprised that Gloria Steinem actually was very good-looking:
[quote name=fang2415]Like most people who are famous for reasons other than being good-looking, she was never very good-looking. That’s why I was so surprised that Gloria Steinem actually was very good-looking:
[/quote]She worked as a Playboy bunny in Hef’s club in the ’60s. Briefly, and for a journalistic assignment, but still.
[quote name=josh]She worked as a Playboy bunny in Hef’s club in the ’60s. Briefly, and for a journalistic assignment, but still.[/quote]I’d like to see John Roberts try to do that. Wait, I take it back. I’d like to hear about it.
[quote name=Pinetar]Definitely not your typical feminine looking hand. Kind of scary if you ask me.[/quote]Her index finger and ring finger appear to be the same length, so she is slightly less feminine than one would expect.
[quote name=Mish]I must admit, this is my favorite Supreme Court hottie rating site on the internet.[/quote]I wonder what this says about us since the Supreme Court is such a sausage-fest.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder][/quote]We’re still all on the verge of committing suicide for lack of Yu Darvish news, but for different reasons now.
[quote name=fang2415]Disagree on lobster (dying laughing)[/quote] I totally agree on lobster, my feelings were only cemented after living in the NE for the past few months. Crab >>> lobster
[quote name=Berselius]I totally agree on lobster, my feelings were only cemented after living in the NE for the past few months. Crab >>> lobster[/quote]I agree with this.
[quote name=Berselius]I totally agree on lobster, my feelings were only cemented after living in the NE for the past few months. Crab >>> lobster[/quote]Truth.
And they always stick you with the tail, which is okay, but lobster claws are the best part.
[quote name=Mish]I must admit, this is my favorite Supreme Court hottie rating site on the internet.[/quote]Is it also your favorite site for discussions about whether lobster and anal sex are overrated?
[quote name=mb21]Is it also your favorite site for discussions about whether lobster and anal sex are overrated?[/quote]I know for sure that this is my favorite site for discussion my favorite sites.
[quote name=mb21]The Cubs interest in Fielder is nothing more than the agent using the Cubs to get a better contract in my opinion.[/quote] I don’t know…..
The Cubs new FO obviously understands the lack of impact bats that will be on the FA market the next few years and Fielder is young enough to build around. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cubs signed him.
That said, I don’t expect them to throw 10 years and 300 mil at him either. If a bidding war somehow starts, I’m sure the Cubs will remove themselves from the running.
[quote name=mb21]The Cubs interest in Fielder is nothing more than the agent using the Cubs to get a better contract in my opinion.[/quote]Yeah, but believing the Cubs have a chance to get Fielder or Darvish helps justify wasting so much time on baseball blogs.
[quote name=mb21]The Cubs interest in Fielder is nothing more than the agent using the Cubs to get a better contract in my opinion.[/quote]If it’s a planted rumor, the idea that they’re interested in no more than six or seven years seems counter-intuitive for Boras.
[quote name=AndCounting]If it’s a planted rumor, the idea that they’re interested in no more than six or seven years seems counter-intuitive for Boras.[/quote]Not really. If he can get teams thinking the market is less years, higher annual salary, he might be able to work a deal for Prince that gets him a big payday now, and again in 4-5 years.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Not really. If he can get teams thinking the market is less years, higher annual salary, he might be able to work a deal for Prince that gets him a big payday now, and again in 4-5 years.[/quote]Well, if there’s one part of the buzz on this story I do believe, it’s that Boras and Fielder want a longer contract than that. Whatever Boras says, he has to have the same concerns about Fielder’s durability that everyone else has. Committing to a short-term contract would be a pretty big gamble/concession on their part, I think.
[quote name=AndCounting]Well, if there’s one part of the buzz on this story I do believe, it’s that Boras and Fielder want a longer contract than that. Whatever Boras says, he has to have the same concerns about Fielder’s durability that everyone else has. Committing to a short-term contract would be a pretty big gamble/concession on their part, I think.[/quote]Perhaps. But the market is what it is. Boras can’t force teams to give a guy with a bad body a long deal. Eventually Prince is going to want to have a team and begin preparing for the season with them, and Boras will be pressured from both sides to get a deal done. Even if he gets his 10 year deal, no more than 7 of it will be guaranteed, and there’s little chance on a deal like that that Prince will get a NTC, which Boras will want since he knows a team signing Prince to a deal that long is thinking they’ll be looking to ship him and those big money years after 4-5 years anyway. I think Boras has overplayed his hand a bit here.
[quote name=AndCounting]Well, if there’s one part of the buzz on this story I do believe, it’s that Boras and Fielder want a longer contract than that. Whatever Boras says, he has to have the same concerns about Fielder’s durability that everyone else has. Committing to a short-term contract would be a pretty big gamble/concession on their part, I think.[/quote] It’s a big gamble, but the upside is also pretty good.
How can they not know? Is it like a pair of parents hoping to be surprised by the sex of their baby?[/quote]The Fighters get all the bids blind. All they know are dollar amounts. Then they decide whether to accept or reject the high bid. If they accept, the winning team is notified. If the winning team agrees to enter negotiations, the Fighters are then notified as to whom that team is, and they have a window to work a deal. If they can’t get a deal done, the posting fee goes back to the team, Darvish remains to fight more Hams, and it all begins again next offseason.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]The Fighters get all the bids blind. All they know are dollar amounts. Then they decide whether to accept or reject the high bid. If they accept, the winning team is notified. If the winning team agrees to enter negotiations, the Fighters are then notified as to whom that team is, and they have a window to work a deal. If they can’t get a deal done, the posting fee goes back to the team, Darvish remains to fight more Hams, and it all begins again next offseason.[/quote]Ah, for some reason I thought all the bids come in an envelope with the secret admirer’s name on it. Good to know!
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]The Fighters get all the bids blind. All they know are dollar amounts. Then they decide whether to accept or reject the high bid. If they accept, the winning team is notified. If the winning team agrees to enter negotiations, the Fighters are then notified as to whom that team is, and they have a window to work a deal. If they can’t get a deal done, the posting fee goes back to the team, Darvish remains to fight more Hams, and it all begins again next offseason.[/quote]
All of this posting crap with Japanese teams needs to stop. Throw them in the draft and let the pieces fall where they may.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder] Boras can’t force teams to give a guy with a bad body a long deal. [/quote] This reminded me of the best line in Robothal’s column:
Boras generally excels at exploiting the market to maximum advantage — or, to put it bluntly, finding the one dumb owner.
You guys could be right and 6/7 years with maybe a player option after 4/5 might be Boras’s best case scenario right now. I just suspect he’s hoping to find that one team who will negotiate against themselves.
I know people have talked about how close to the vest this new front office is, but that’s just not true. We know for a fact it is not. I do believe the Chicago media is worthless, but they’re not this lazy. The reason we hear so little is because so little is going on. Even awhile back when Cespedes’ name came up, it was pointed out by at least two beat writers that the Cubs were more interested in another Cuban defector (Soler). Thoyer basically admitted they have no interest in spending money this offseason. They’ve done this a few times. They’ve talked about how important pitching is, but haven’t wasted a moment trying to acquire any of the top starting pitchers available.
This just isn’t a front office that is going for it right now. I don’t think they could care less about making a splash. I don’t believe the Cubs had any genuine interest in Pujols. I don’t believe they do for Cespedes, Darvish and Fielder.
They’ve acquired stop gaps in RF and 3B. I’m sure if Fielder’s price drops considerably they’d be interested, but my guess is that they’d pay no more than 5 years and $100 million. I know the Cubs bid on Darvish, but I believe that all 30 teams bid on him. There’s just no reason for any team to say, ah fuck it, I’m not going to bid on this guy.
I know it’s exciting to talk about getting stars, but nothing this front office has said or done indicates they have any interest in building a contender in 2012.
I’ll be called a funsucker for this, but I don’t think this front office has made contending a priority for 3 to 5 years. Both of them were signed to 5-year contracts. Executives often talk about 5-year rebuilding plans. I don’t believe that’s a coincidence. The Cubs have put every player on their roster on the market. Nobody is untouchable. They’ve talked to teams about Matt Garza (their best starting pitcher) even though they’re wanting more pitching and Garza is still a bargain.
Sucks, but the next few years are going to be pretty bad. I predict firetheoepstein.com will be purchased within a year.
[quote name=mb21] Sucks, but the next few years are going to be pretty bad. I predict firetheoepstein.com will be purchased within a year.[/quote] I’m surprised it’s not live right now.
[quote name=Rice Cube]I’m surprised it’s not live right now.[/quote]Give Cub fans a few months to talk themselves into thinking they’re smarter than him.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Give Cub fans a few months to talk themselves into thinking they’re smarter than him.[/quote]I like the part where MO has isolated himself from dumb Cubs fans (dying laughing)
[quote name=mb21]I know people have talked about how close to the vest this new front office is, but that’s just not true. We know for a fact it is not. I do believe the Chicago media is worthless, but they’re not this lazy. The reason we hear so little is because so little is going on. Even awhile back when Cespedes’ name came up, it was pointed out by at least two beat writers that the Cubs were more interested in another Cuban defector (Soler). Thoyer basically admitted they have no interest in spending money this offseason. They’ve done this a few times. They’ve talked about how important pitching is, but haven’t wasted a moment trying to acquire any of the top starting pitchers available.
This just isn’t a front office that is going for it right now. I don’t think they could care less about making a splash. I don’t believe the Cubs had any genuine interest in Pujols. I don’t believe they do for Cespedes, Darvish and Fielder.
They’ve acquired stop gaps in RF and 3B. I’m sure if Fielder’s price drops considerably they’d be interested, but my guess is that they’d pay no more than 5 years and $100 million. I know the Cubs bid on Darvish, but I believe that all 30 teams bid on him. There’s just no reason for any team to say, ah fuck it, I’m not going to bid on this guy.
I know it’s exciting to talk about getting stars, but nothing this front office has said or done indicates they have any interest in building a contender in 2012.
I’ll be called a funsucker for this, but I don’t think this front office has made contending a priority for 3 to 5 years. Both of them were signed to 5-year contracts. Executives often talk about 5-year rebuilding plans. I don’t believe that’s a coincidence. The Cubs have put every player on their roster on the market. Nobody is untouchable. They’ve talked to teams about Matt Garza (their best starting pitcher) even though they’re wanting more pitching and Garza is still a bargain.
Sucks, but the next few years are going to be pretty bad. I predict firetheoepstein.com will be purchased within a year.[/quote]They’ve also talked about not doing a fire sale, and always wanting to contend, even during rebuilding.
If what you say is true about not caring about contending for a few years, why would stop gaps at 3B and RF even matter, given the existence of Blaker and LaHair?
The thread’s tag (Not Gonna Happen) is probably right, we’re probably dumb for allowing ourselves hope for a good 2012, but I absolutely do not think Thoyer is done making moves at the MLB level this offseason. Maybe they’re more stopgappy moves, but until I hear otherwise, I’ll think the Cubs could still land someone more significant for the long haul.
I wouldn’t say NOTHING they said precludes contention in 2012. I seem to remember them mentioning they weren’t going to punt any particular year, but I agree overall that they have been deflecting such questions and consistently referring to long term plans. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them add a piece if they could get Fielder or Darvish at a relative bargain, but I don’t see them doing something Nationals-esque.
[quote name=Suburban kid]They’ve also talked about not doing a fire sale, and always wanting to contend, even during rebuilding.
If what you say is true about not caring about contending for a few years, why would stop gaps at 3B and RF even matter, given the existence of Blaker and LaHair?[/quote]The Cubs will never do a fire sale, but they’re open for business. Numerous sources have confirmed that. They’re listening on anybody and everybody. I haven’t even read a report that says Starlin Castro is off limits. I imagine he is unless it’s one of those deals you’d be stupid to offer.
As for stop gaps, the O’s and Pirates sign them each year with no hope of contending. I don’t think LaHair can play every day in the OF so acquiring someone for RF was kind of a necessity unless you want to open the season with Jackson in CF. I don’t see that happening. Gaining that extra year is more important than an additional 40 games of experience for him.
I think the Cubs as an interested suitor are being thrown around for a couple of reasons. First, the media is lazy so they see very good GM who has signed high dollar contracts in the past and a team with a lot of money. Then you have the agents more than willing to use the Cubs and the Cubs willingness to allow them to be used. They wanted Pujols away from the Cardinals. They want Fielder away from the Brewers. It makes sense for them to allow themselves to be used.
I get excited at the possibility of the Cubs signing these guys too. That’s inevitable, but it’s also highly unlikely.
[quote name=Berselius]We should buy firetheoepstein.com and put up the forest gif on it (dying laughing)[/quote]I love that idea. Someone should register it.
I think I read that Boras wanted to include an opt out in the contract; I’d jump at that and use it to burn him. Give him a 7 year deal worth 25M AAV with an opt out after year 4. Then after he opts out, let him sign elsewhere and install Vogelbach or some other developed prospect.
[quote name=work sucks]I think I read that Boras wanted to include an opt out in the contract; I’d jump at that and use it to burn him. Give him a 7 year deal worth 25M AAV with an opt out after year 4. Then after he opts out, let him sign elsewhere and install Vogelbach or some other developed prospect.[/quote]I think that’s how the Sabathia deal was set up and it seemed to work out for CC.
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Let me know when the domain is registered and I’ll work on converting the gif to a swf that will repeat endlessly to Yakety Sax.[/quote] Approved.
[quote name=mb21]Is it also your favorite site for discussions about whether lobster and anal sex are overrated?[/quote]No on the former, HELL YES on the latter.
(dying laughing), Jerry Angelo just told a Bears beat reporter to “Whistle Dixie” in response to a stupid question. (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing) That was full of win.
Not to resurrect anybody’s hopes here, but Jim Bowden, who earlier was the loudest crowing about the Jays winning the Darvish sweeps…deleted the original tweet.
He has since tweeted that the Commish’s office hasn’t told anybody anything about nothing to do with Darvish, and won’t, thank you very much, until Nippon Ham accepts the bid.
[quote name=AndCounting](dying laughing) at OV’s $100 bid on Yu Darvish.[/quote]It’s no laughing matter, AC. If we win the bid, all of us are out $25 thanks to Aisle 424.
[quote name=mb21]It’s no laughing matter, AC. If we win the bid, all of us are out $25 thanks to Aisle 424.[/quote]It’s okay, that money came from Carlos Silva’s contract.
[quote name=mb21]It’s no laughing matter, AC. If we win the bid, all of us are out $25 thanks to Aisle 424.[/quote] I should have brought it before the OV Appropriations Committee to have it properly discussed and approved before getting voted on in the next OV referendum election.
[quote name=Aisle424]Worst case scenario is that I will return the gold-plated shoe polisher that I ordered for my OV office to pay the posting fee.[/quote]I bet you etched our bid on a Faberge egg to send it in.
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That’s what she said.
MishQuote Reply
More and more are saying that the Jays have won it.
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[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]More and more are saying that the Jays have won it.[/quote]I first read this as “More and more are saying that the Jews have won it.” My brain must be feeling anti-semitic today.
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[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]More and more are saying that the Jays have won it.[/quote]I’ve been trying to find the rumors floating up until Boston was awarded the Dice-K posting bid win. I want to say it was constantly rumored to be Seattle and the Yankees. It ended up that both were WAY below the actual winning bid. So i don’t put much stock in the rumors.
Also – considering the fact that Theo won the Dice-K bid it makes me wonder why the Cubs aren’t being rumored as winners more.
JManQuote Reply
Mike Fast is studying hit-and-runs. Looking forward to his findings.
ACTQuote Reply
He says that the Rays and Cardinals used the play the most of all teams last year, Yankees and Red Sox the least.
ACTQuote Reply
Also, this is the best song about waiting:
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=JMan]I’ve been trying to find the rumors floating up until Boston was awarded the Dice-K posting bid win. I want to say it was constantly rumored to be Seattle and the Yankees. It ended up that both were WAY below the actual winning bid. So i don’t put much stock in the rumors.
Also – considering the fact that Theo won the Dice-K bid it makes me wonder why the Cubs aren’t being rumored as winners more.[/quote]
The silence around the team is deafening. Nobody knows shit about what the Cubs are doing. They could all just be sitting around and playing solitaire.
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[quote name=Alvin]MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, NATIONAL WRITERS RT @nickcafardo: Cubs are not major players for Prince Fielder. Not ready to spend big.[/quote]
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Aisle424Quote Reply
Alvin’s about to go on the most mind-making rant you’ve ever seen.
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[quote name=ACT]Also, this is the best song about waiting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02rHc9O94BM%5B/quote%5DThe Fugazi one is one of my favorites, but the early Stones are awfully good. I’d put the apples/oranges at about 50/50.
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Cubs not being ready to “spend big” doesn’t exactly jive with the fact (reported in various places) that they made a significant bid for Whirling Darvish.
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Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]I first read this as “More and more are saying that the Jews have won it.” My brain must be feeling anti-semitic today.[/quote]
Then that would mean the Cubs…just like I said. We’ve got Jews in our front office.
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ACTQuote Reply
Songs about waiting > songs about girls
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[quote name=ACT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz64hWng2vM[/quote]This is actually the best song about waiting.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hugY9CwhfzE[/quote]I don’t see what Sam Hurd has to do with this.
GBTSQuote Reply
Apparently, Sandusky’s lawyer was just making casual conversation when discussing why someone might have to shower with under-privileged children:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-sandusky-lawyer-shower-comments-not-about-client-20111215,0,4258152.story
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[quote name=GBTS]I don’t see what Sam Hurd has to do with this.[/quote](dying laughing)
Suburban kidQuote Reply
sorry, guilty pleasure
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz64hWng2vM[/quote]They must’ve had to get a drummer with quite a sense of balance not to fall off of that giant picnic table for a whole show.
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fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Mish]
[/quote]wat
fang2415Quote Reply
more waiting
Recalcitrant Blogger NateQuote Reply
perhaps the most depressing waiting song?
Recalcitrant Blogger NateQuote Reply
While you guys are waiting around and watching Youtube videos, take a look at the worst Youtube video every made. I said I would do it a year ago and now that Ronnie made the HOF I felt I had to get off my ass and do it since I felt the need to pay tribute in some way. However, it is the dumbest thing every, so fair warning etc.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTGKzWDakK8
perhaps the most depressing waiting song?[/quote]They better hurry up and announce the Darvish bid soon or we’re all going to kill ourselves.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]While you guys are waiting around and watching Youtube videos, take a look at the worst Youtube video every made. I said I would do it a year ago and now that Ronnie made the HOF I felt I had to get off my ass and do it since I felt the need to pay tribute in some way. However, it is the dumbest thing every, so fair warning etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8SC_uGSs_0%5B/quote%5DWell done (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]While you guys are waiting around and watching Youtube videos, take a look at the worst Youtube video every made. I said I would do it a year ago and now that Ronnie made the HOF I felt I had to get off my ass and do it since I felt the need to pay tribute in some way. However, it is the dumbest thing every, so fair warning etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8SC_uGSs_0%5B/quote%5D(dying laughing)
I always suspected that Santo and Flavor Flav were actually twins. They just had too much in common for it to be a coincidence.
fang2415Quote Reply
http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2011/12/cubs-looking-at-dealing-for-ss-hiroyuki-nakajima/
BerseliusQuote Reply
Yu Darvish is not coming to the Cubs.
mb21Quote Reply
Nice job, SK.
mb21Quote Reply
So no Fielder and no Darvish.
mb21Quote Reply
I heard the Cubs aren’t even going to mow the grass next year either.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Apparently, Sandusky’s lawyer was just making casual conversation when discussing why someone might have to shower with under-privileged children:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-sandusky-lawyer-shower-comments-not-about-client-20111215,0,4258152.story%5B/quote%5DI honestly wonder how Sandusky managed to find so many attorneys who are as fucked up as he is.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]I heard the Cubs aren’t even going to mow the grass next year either.[/quote]They want to see if Soto can beat an infield grounder.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I honestly wonder how Sandusky managed to find so many attorneys who are as fucked up as he is.[/quote]Maybe all the good lawyers turned him down.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]I heard the Cubs aren’t even going to mow the grass next year either.[/quote]Well, with Zambrano in limbo and Pujols out of the division…
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=fang2415](dying laughing)
I always suspected that Santo and Flavor Flav were actually twins. They just had too much in common for it to be a coincidence.[/quote]I totally forgot to grab a “yeah boyeee”. It would have fit perfectly after “it always happens! I don’t know why!”
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Since this is the Youtube thread…
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]Well, with Zambrano in limbo and Pujols out of the division…[/quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cir05JyEsV0#t=19s
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]Well, with Zambrano in limbo and Pujols out of the division…[/quote]Why can’t Campana mow the lawn? He’d have it done in five seconds.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]wat[/quote]The Waiter!?!? NO?!?!?
MishQuote Reply
Somewhere in there Homer says “wait”.
MishQuote Reply
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/8590096
Lame.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/8590096
Lame.[/quote]That’s probably about when they recover from the sake hangover.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/8590096
Lame.[/quote]They’re, like, totally messing with 10 million American mopes.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Snyds01Quote Reply
The Matsuzaka leaks started about 2 days after the bid ended: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2656687
mb21Quote Reply
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GWQuote Reply
Whoa, wait, so in the Dexter season finale, the villain will try to kill someone in Dexter’s family?
Fourth time’s the charm, I guess.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Whoa, wait, so in the Dexter season finale, the villain will try to kill someone in Dexter’s family?
Fourth time’s the charm, I guess.[/quote]
Watch out baby Dexter!!!
Rodrigo AdolphoQuote Reply
I never realized there were so many good songs about waiting. I logged in just so I could like that Fugazi song again.
this doesn’t have anything to do with waiting, but it is about baseball, and it has Craig Finn from the Hold Steady in it:
UrkQuote Reply
UrkQuote Reply
uncle daveQuote Reply
[quote name=uncle dave]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3qKBASurg[/quote]
wooo! Love The Sonics!
UrkQuote Reply
New York Post is claiming:
Darvish ——-> Blue Jays
http://www.twackle.com/sitebar?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nypost.com%2Fp%2Fsports%2Fyankees%2Fblue_jays_believed_to_outbid_yankees_2iwMCIwJ1gcFbjA9QYntaM%3FCMP%3DOTC-rss%26FEEDNAME%3D%26utm_source%3Dtwitterfeed%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]New York Post is claiming:
Darvish ——-> Blue Jays
http://www.twackle.com/sitebar?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nypost.com%2Fp%2Fsports%2Fyankees%2Fblue_jays_believed_to_outbid_yankees_2iwMCIwJ1gcFbjA9QYntaM%3FCMP%3DOTC-rss%26FEEDNAME%3D%26utm_source%3Dtwitterfeed%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter%5B/quote%5DUntil Paul Sullivan dishes to BK about the info he got from a random man in a probably ugly shirt, I don’t believe it.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
To be fair that piece seems little more than a rehash of the rumors we’ve been hearing so far, nothing really new, and from what I can tell it’s not based on any sourcing from MLB itself (the only entity that actually knows), which is what Olney had when he broke the Red Sox-Matsuzaka thing. If MLB’s not leaking it yet, then the pundits are trying to piece this thing together based on what they’ve been told by sources within organizations that have bid. Which makes the following passage interesting:
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The Hall of Justice is on lockdown, nobody knows what the Superfriends bid, but based on the prevailing belief that the Cubs are not big players for anybody (except maybe Fielder, but even that goes back and forth daily) and with all the excitement coming from the Blue Jays camp, I think it possible everybody’s allowed themselves to get swayed in that direction.
Except me. I’m sticking to it this time. Cubs win the bid. Theo didn’t fuck around the first time with Dice-K, he blew everybody else out of the water. Why he would put up a half-ass bid and hope for the best seems unlike him. Like his predecessor maybe, but not him.
Smokestack LightningQuote Reply
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/report-the-blue-jays-are-the-high-bidders-for-yu-darvish/
MishQuote Reply
I’d like to see one season of Dexter where he gets sick of Harry’s code and goes on a killing spree. I was hoping that would happen when he started seeing his brother instead of Harry. Wasted oppportunity. I’m thinking that would have to be the penultimate season.
I’d also like to see a season where Deb knows about Dexter and is torn between her career and her family. That could go work well with my other idea, because she could easily rationalize what he’s doing if he’s abiding by Harry’s code.
So I guess I’d like to see the previous two ideas be implemented next season. Then in the final season, I think it should be all about Dexter on trial. The opening scene of the season would be him entering his plea for the murder of several people. Witnesses and psychiatrists could evoke flashbacks throughout the season. The last scene would be the jury foreman beginning to read the verdict.
Fade out.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning].
The Hall of Justice is on lockdown, nobody knows what the Superfriends bid, but based on the prevailing belief that the Cubs are not big players for anybody (except maybe Fielder, but even that goes back and forth daily) and with all the excitement coming from the Blue Jays camp, I think it possible everybody’s allowed themselves to get swayed in that direction.
Except me. I’m sticking to it this time. Cubs win the bid. Theo didn’t fuck around the first time with Dice-K, he blew everybody else out of the water. Why he would put up a half-ass bid and hope for the best seems unlike him. Like his predecessor maybe, but not him.[/quote]I agree, partially. My feeling is the Cubs put up an aggressive, but reasonable bid given their finances, but the Blue Jays may have gone into stupid-money territory, and you can’t really compete with that. If the Blue Jays didn’t do something crazy, I think the Cubs have a reasonable chance. They’re seriously going to make us wait three whole days, aren’t they?
joshQuote Reply
I think the Cubs put in a serious bid, but I don’t think they have the top offer. I’d think that even if Ricketts publicly stated that the team is going to spend $1 billion per offseason.
mb21Quote Reply
Rogers is reporting that the Jays won, but whatever. (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
Phil Rogers @ChiTribRogers
Reports are saying that #Blue Jays have won Yu Darvish bidding. Most think the bid was more than the $51 mil for Daisuke.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Rogers is reporting that other people are saying that the Jays won, but whatever. (dying laughing)[/quote]
Fixed.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Phil Rogers @ChiTribRogers
Reports are saying that #Blue Jays have won Yu Darvish bidding. Most think the bid was more than the $51 mil for Daisuke.[/quote]
When the Sox were tipped as the winners for Daisuke, the dollar figures were wrong by about $10 million (they underestimated Theo’s bid).
I don’t think the Cubs are out of this. Theo said he’d play things close to the vest, and he has.
Suburban kid 2 oe 288Quote Reply
[quote name=Urk]wooo! Love The Sonics![/quote]The Sonics kick motherfucking ass.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
He either has decided it’s now time to play it close by the vest (possible) or the media is lazy (more likely in my opinion). Maybe a combination of both.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]The Sonics kick motherfucking ass.[/quote]
I think they’re called the Thunder now.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
I miss Yu already.
AndCountingQuote Reply
I’ll wait for Yu forever.
joshQuote Reply
Screw Yu, asshole.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Yu can’t always get what yu want
work sucksQuote Reply
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/cubs-early-favorites-to-sign-prince-fielder.html
MishQuote Reply
If I can’t have Yu, I guess I’ll just have to wait for my Prince:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/cubs-early-favorites-to-sign-prince-fielder.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29
joshQuote Reply
Ruth Bader Ginsburg!
joshQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Ruth Bader Ginsburg![/quote]
Josh has weird tastes in women.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=josh]Ruth Bader Ginsburg![/quote]She’s not not hot.
AndCountingQuote Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAcHaVWRWBY
joshQuote Reply
The really curious thing about Prince Fielder is that there seems to be no one even interested in driving up the price on him. Scott Boras isn’t even doing a good job lying about the market for Prince. Someone might actually sign him to a reasonable contract.
AndCountingQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]She’s not not hot.[/quote]
Suburban kidQuote Reply
She was more attractive in her younger days:
joshQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]The really curious thing about Prince Fielder is that there seems to be no one even interested in driving up the price on him. Scott Boras isn’t even doing a good job lying about the market for Prince. Someone might actually sign him to a reasonable contract.[/quote]Yeah, the book was only like 73 pages and barely even exaggerated all of the facts.
joshQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Yeah, the book was only like 73 pages and barely even exaggerated all of the facts.[/quote]It’s a book on why teams should want Prince Fielder. That’s just a really long way of saying no one is offering very much.
AndCountingQuote Reply
Being ridiculously wealthy is painful:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/la-russa-pujols-pained-by-decision/article_b5225138-2a1b-5d5f-898e-7f143da11538.html?oCampaign=email
AndCountingQuote Reply
If anyone can find the non-German version of this, more power to you:
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5599859/waiting_is_the_hardest_part
Relevant part is at 0:45 mark.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]She was more attractive in her younger days:
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]Being ridiculously wealthy is painful:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/la-russa-pujols-pained-by-decision/article_b5225138-2a1b-5d5f-898e-7f143da11538.html?oCampaign=email%5B/quote%5D
Tell me about it. I just had to pony up for my monocle and pocket square insurance. They made me pay in actual ponies.
Toppington Von MonocleQuote Reply
MishQuote Reply
I like how Butt-head is a boron.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]The really curious thing about Prince Fielder is that there seems to be no one even interested in driving up the price on him. Scott Boras isn’t even doing a good job lying about the market for Prince. Someone might actually sign him to a reasonable contract.[/quote]I don’t think there’s much of a market for him and there’s no way he’s getting a 10 year deal.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mish]
[/quote]I think Mish’s humor on this thread is going way over my head.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]I think Mish’s humor on this thread is going way over my head.[/quote]I’m 99.7% sure this one was trying to invoke Breaking Bad.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]If anyone can find the non-German version of this, more power to you:
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5599859/waiting_is_the_hardest_part
Relevant part is at 0:45 mark.[/quote]I heard once that Germans think the Simpsons is stupid because of the lousy squeaky-voiced dub of Homer.
This one is still funny even in German though. “Grumbly grumble funf Tage grumble mumble.” (dying laughing)
fang2415Quote Reply
Dave McKay ——-> 1b coach
BerseliusQuote Reply
Listach ———-> 3b coach
BerseliusQuote Reply
Christopher Hitchens —-> dead
December is such a slow news month.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Dave McKay ——-> 1b coach[/quote][quote name=Berselius]Listach ———-> 3b coach[/quote][quote name=fang2415]Christopher Hitchens —-> dead
December is such a slow news month.[/quote]
/non sequitur
Rice CubeQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
fang2415Quote Reply
DATELINE DECEMBER 16 2011:
Dave McKay ——-> 1b coach
Pat Listach ——-> 3b coach
Christopher Hitchens ——-> dead
(dying laughing)
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=josh]She was more attractive in her younger days:
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]I think Mish’s humor on this thread is going way over my head.[/quote]
I’m meta.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]I miss Yu already.[/quote]
ACTQuote Reply
I was about to post a picture of a young Scalia to show that he wasn’t good-looking either, but he was surprisingly presentable as a young man:
Roberts, however…:
Harry Blackmun was no oil painting either, apparently.
fang2415Quote Reply
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/barry-bonds-to-be-sentenced-today/
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Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]Like most people who are famous for reasons other than being good-looking, she was never very good-looking. That’s why I was so surprised that Gloria Steinem actually was very good-looking:
joshQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]She worked as a Playboy bunny in Hef’s club in the ’60s. Briefly, and for a journalistic assignment, but still.[/quote]I’d like to see John Roberts try to do that. Wait, I take it back. I’d like to hear about it.
fang2415Quote Reply
I must admit, this is my favorite Supreme Court hottie rating site on the internet.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]I must admit, this is my favorite Supreme Court hottie rating site on the internet.[/quote]
Hi guys…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Superfriends updated
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Hi guys…
Definitely not your typical feminine looking hand. Kind of scary if you ask me.
PinetarQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Superfriends updated[/quote]I like how they’re in the “Green Arrow” outer circle.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Pinetar]Definitely not your typical feminine looking hand. Kind of scary if you ask me.[/quote]Her index finger and ring finger appear to be the same length, so she is slightly less feminine than one would expect.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Hi guys…[/quote]
Hey lay-deez
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Mish]I must admit, this is my favorite Supreme Court hottie rating site on the internet.[/quote]I wonder what this says about us since the Supreme Court is such a sausage-fest.
/faget
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]
[/quote]We’re still all on the verge of committing suicide for lack of Yu Darvish news, but for different reasons now.
fang2415Quote Reply
In honor of Hitchens:
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Superfriends updated[/quote]I now have no idea who an even higher percentage of them are.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Mish]In honor of Hitchens:
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]Disagree on lobster (dying laughing)[/quote]
What about the anal?
Rodrigo RamirezQuote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]Disagree on lobster (dying laughing)[/quote]
I totally agree on lobster, my feelings were only cemented after living in the NE for the past few months. Crab >>> lobster
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]What about the anal?[/quote]All the non-lobster ones I either agree with or don’t have an opinion. (dying laughing)
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I totally agree on lobster, my feelings were only cemented after living in the NE for the past few months. Crab >>> lobster[/quote]I agree with this.
I also like clam chowdah.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I totally agree on lobster, my feelings were only cemented after living in the NE for the past few months. Crab >>> lobster[/quote]Truth.
And they always stick you with the tail, which is okay, but lobster claws are the best part.
joshQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]I must admit, this is my favorite Supreme Court hottie rating site on the internet.[/quote]Is it also your favorite site for discussions about whether lobster and anal sex are overrated?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Is it also your favorite site for discussions about whether lobster and anal sex are overrated?[/quote]I know for sure that this is my favorite site for discussion my favorite sites.
joshQuote Reply
What we need to do about Yu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKIc4o4SGV8
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Superfriends updated[/quote]
Suburban kid 2 or 288Quote Reply
[quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]What about the anal?[/quote]Would you ask Paul Lynde that question?
Suburban kid 2 or 288Quote Reply
oops late to the waiting party but a worthy candidate
8volumesthickQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]In honor of Hitchens:
joshQuote Reply
This thread is getting slooooooooow with all these clips. (dying laughing)
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
I shall make it slower. This is my song to Yu.
AndCountingQuote Reply
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/chicago-cubs-theo-epstein-should-be-front-runners-for-prince-fielder-121511
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/chicago-cubs-theo-epstein-should-be-front-runners-for-prince-fielder-121511[/quote]
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-sveum-downplays-fielder-rumors-20111216,0,6737559.story
PinetarQuote Reply
This reminds me of the Pujols situation. Rosenthal reported that they were in on him, sources close to the Angels denied it.
ACTQuote Reply
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Pinetar]http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-sveum-downplays-fielder-rumors-20111216,0,6737559.story[/quote]The Cubs interest in Fielder is nothing more than the agent using the Cubs to get a better contract in my opinion.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]The Cubs interest in Fielder is nothing more than the agent using the Cubs to get a better contract in my opinion.[/quote]
This.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Richard Dawkins is definitely the most attractive atheist Brit.[/quote]
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]The Cubs interest in Fielder is nothing more than the agent using the Cubs to get a better contract in my opinion.[/quote]
I don’t know…..
The Cubs new FO obviously understands the lack of impact bats that will be on the FA market the next few years and Fielder is young enough to build around. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cubs signed him.
That said, I don’t expect them to throw 10 years and 300 mil at him either. If a bidding war somehow starts, I’m sure the Cubs will remove themselves from the running.
Rodrigo RamirezQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]The Cubs interest in Fielder is nothing more than the agent using the Cubs to get a better contract in my opinion.[/quote]Yeah, but believing the Cubs have a chance to get Fielder or Darvish helps justify wasting so much time on baseball blogs.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]The Cubs interest in Fielder is nothing more than the agent using the Cubs to get a better contract in my opinion.[/quote]If it’s a planted rumor, the idea that they’re interested in no more than six or seven years seems counter-intuitive for Boras.
AndCountingQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]If it’s a planted rumor, the idea that they’re interested in no more than six or seven years seems counter-intuitive for Boras.[/quote]Not really. If he can get teams thinking the market is less years, higher annual salary, he might be able to work a deal for Prince that gets him a big payday now, and again in 4-5 years.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Not really. If he can get teams thinking the market is less years, higher annual salary, he might be able to work a deal for Prince that gets him a big payday now, and again in 4-5 years.[/quote]Well, if there’s one part of the buzz on this story I do believe, it’s that Boras and Fielder want a longer contract than that. Whatever Boras says, he has to have the same concerns about Fielder’s durability that everyone else has. Committing to a short-term contract would be a pretty big gamble/concession on their part, I think.
AndCountingQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]Well, if there’s one part of the buzz on this story I do believe, it’s that Boras and Fielder want a longer contract than that. Whatever Boras says, he has to have the same concerns about Fielder’s durability that everyone else has. Committing to a short-term contract would be a pretty big gamble/concession on their part, I think.[/quote]Perhaps. But the market is what it is. Boras can’t force teams to give a guy with a bad body a long deal. Eventually Prince is going to want to have a team and begin preparing for the season with them, and Boras will be pressured from both sides to get a deal done. Even if he gets his 10 year deal, no more than 7 of it will be guaranteed, and there’s little chance on a deal like that that Prince will get a NTC, which Boras will want since he knows a team signing Prince to a deal that long is thinking they’ll be looking to ship him and those big money years after 4-5 years anyway. I think Boras has overplayed his hand a bit here.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]Well, if there’s one part of the buzz on this story I do believe, it’s that Boras and Fielder want a longer contract than that. Whatever Boras says, he has to have the same concerns about Fielder’s durability that everyone else has. Committing to a short-term contract would be a pretty big gamble/concession on their part, I think.[/quote]
It’s a big gamble, but the upside is also pretty good.
BerseliusQuote Reply
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/jays-bid-40mm-plus-favored-to-win-darvish-bidding-.html
I just read the bottom part for the first time:
How can they not know? Is it like a pair of parents hoping to be surprised by the sex of their baby?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/jays-bid-40mm-plus-favored-to-win-darvish-bidding-.html
I just read the bottom part for the first time:
How can they not know? Is it like a pair of parents hoping to be surprised by the sex of their baby?[/quote]The Fighters get all the bids blind. All they know are dollar amounts. Then they decide whether to accept or reject the high bid. If they accept, the winning team is notified. If the winning team agrees to enter negotiations, the Fighters are then notified as to whom that team is, and they have a window to work a deal. If they can’t get a deal done, the posting fee goes back to the team, Darvish remains to fight more Hams, and it all begins again next offseason.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]The Fighters get all the bids blind. All they know are dollar amounts. Then they decide whether to accept or reject the high bid. If they accept, the winning team is notified. If the winning team agrees to enter negotiations, the Fighters are then notified as to whom that team is, and they have a window to work a deal. If they can’t get a deal done, the posting fee goes back to the team, Darvish remains to fight more Hams, and it all begins again next offseason.[/quote]Ah, for some reason I thought all the bids come in an envelope with the secret admirer’s name on it. Good to know!
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]The Fighters get all the bids blind. All they know are dollar amounts. Then they decide whether to accept or reject the high bid. If they accept, the winning team is notified. If the winning team agrees to enter negotiations, the Fighters are then notified as to whom that team is, and they have a window to work a deal. If they can’t get a deal done, the posting fee goes back to the team, Darvish remains to fight more Hams, and it all begins again next offseason.[/quote]
All of this posting crap with Japanese teams needs to stop. Throw them in the draft and let the pieces fall where they may.
PinetarQuote Reply
[quote name=8volumesthick]oops late to the waiting party but a worthy candidate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOAXm94VWo%5B/quote%5DPlease read the post with the rules about posting.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder] Boras can’t force teams to give a guy with a bad body a long deal. [/quote]
This reminded me of the best line in Robothal’s column:
You guys could be right and 6/7 years with maybe a player option after 4/5 might be Boras’s best case scenario right now. I just suspect he’s hoping to find that one team who will negotiate against themselves.
AndCountingQuote Reply
I know people have talked about how close to the vest this new front office is, but that’s just not true. We know for a fact it is not. I do believe the Chicago media is worthless, but they’re not this lazy. The reason we hear so little is because so little is going on. Even awhile back when Cespedes’ name came up, it was pointed out by at least two beat writers that the Cubs were more interested in another Cuban defector (Soler). Thoyer basically admitted they have no interest in spending money this offseason. They’ve done this a few times. They’ve talked about how important pitching is, but haven’t wasted a moment trying to acquire any of the top starting pitchers available.
This just isn’t a front office that is going for it right now. I don’t think they could care less about making a splash. I don’t believe the Cubs had any genuine interest in Pujols. I don’t believe they do for Cespedes, Darvish and Fielder.
They’ve acquired stop gaps in RF and 3B. I’m sure if Fielder’s price drops considerably they’d be interested, but my guess is that they’d pay no more than 5 years and $100 million. I know the Cubs bid on Darvish, but I believe that all 30 teams bid on him. There’s just no reason for any team to say, ah fuck it, I’m not going to bid on this guy.
I know it’s exciting to talk about getting stars, but nothing this front office has said or done indicates they have any interest in building a contender in 2012.
I’ll be called a funsucker for this, but I don’t think this front office has made contending a priority for 3 to 5 years. Both of them were signed to 5-year contracts. Executives often talk about 5-year rebuilding plans. I don’t believe that’s a coincidence. The Cubs have put every player on their roster on the market. Nobody is untouchable. They’ve talked to teams about Matt Garza (their best starting pitcher) even though they’re wanting more pitching and Garza is still a bargain.
Sucks, but the next few years are going to be pretty bad. I predict firetheoepstein.com will be purchased within a year.
mb21Quote Reply
BerseliusQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]
Sucks, but the next few years are going to be pretty bad. I predict firetheoepstein.com will be purchased within a year.[/quote]
I’m surprised it’s not live right now.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I’m surprised it’s not live right now.[/quote]Give Cub fans a few months to talk themselves into thinking they’re smarter than him.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Give Cub fans a few months to talk themselves into thinking they’re smarter than him.[/quote]I like the part where MO has isolated himself from dumb Cubs fans (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I like the part where MO has isolated himself from Cubs fans (dying laughing)[/quote].
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder].[/quote]Hater.
Although I guess it would take a few months for them to learn simple HTML.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Hater.
Although I guess it would take a few months for them to learn simple HTML.[/quote]
That’s what DreamWeaver is for!
/dumbest software ever
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]That’s what DreamWeaver is for!
/dumbest software ever[/quote]Do you believe it will get them through the night?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I know people have talked about how close to the vest this new front office is, but that’s just not true. We know for a fact it is not. I do believe the Chicago media is worthless, but they’re not this lazy. The reason we hear so little is because so little is going on. Even awhile back when Cespedes’ name came up, it was pointed out by at least two beat writers that the Cubs were more interested in another Cuban defector (Soler). Thoyer basically admitted they have no interest in spending money this offseason. They’ve done this a few times. They’ve talked about how important pitching is, but haven’t wasted a moment trying to acquire any of the top starting pitchers available.
This just isn’t a front office that is going for it right now. I don’t think they could care less about making a splash. I don’t believe the Cubs had any genuine interest in Pujols. I don’t believe they do for Cespedes, Darvish and Fielder.
They’ve acquired stop gaps in RF and 3B. I’m sure if Fielder’s price drops considerably they’d be interested, but my guess is that they’d pay no more than 5 years and $100 million. I know the Cubs bid on Darvish, but I believe that all 30 teams bid on him. There’s just no reason for any team to say, ah fuck it, I’m not going to bid on this guy.
I know it’s exciting to talk about getting stars, but nothing this front office has said or done indicates they have any interest in building a contender in 2012.
I’ll be called a funsucker for this, but I don’t think this front office has made contending a priority for 3 to 5 years. Both of them were signed to 5-year contracts. Executives often talk about 5-year rebuilding plans. I don’t believe that’s a coincidence. The Cubs have put every player on their roster on the market. Nobody is untouchable. They’ve talked to teams about Matt Garza (their best starting pitcher) even though they’re wanting more pitching and Garza is still a bargain.
Sucks, but the next few years are going to be pretty bad. I predict firetheoepstein.com will be purchased within a year.[/quote]They’ve also talked about not doing a fire sale, and always wanting to contend, even during rebuilding.
If what you say is true about not caring about contending for a few years, why would stop gaps at 3B and RF even matter, given the existence of Blaker and LaHair?
The thread’s tag (Not Gonna Happen) is probably right, we’re probably dumb for allowing ourselves hope for a good 2012, but I absolutely do not think Thoyer is done making moves at the MLB level this offseason. Maybe they’re more stopgappy moves, but until I hear otherwise, I’ll think the Cubs could still land someone more significant for the long haul.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
We should buy firetheoepstein.com and put up the forest gif on it (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
I wouldn’t say NOTHING they said precludes contention in 2012. I seem to remember them mentioning they weren’t going to punt any particular year, but I agree overall that they have been deflecting such questions and consistently referring to long term plans. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them add a piece if they could get Fielder or Darvish at a relative bargain, but I don’t see them doing something Nationals-esque.
joshQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]We should buy firetheoepstein.com and put up the forest gif on it (dying laughing)[/quote]Brilliant.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]They’ve also talked about not doing a fire sale, and always wanting to contend, even during rebuilding.
If what you say is true about not caring about contending for a few years, why would stop gaps at 3B and RF even matter, given the existence of Blaker and LaHair?[/quote]The Cubs will never do a fire sale, but they’re open for business. Numerous sources have confirmed that. They’re listening on anybody and everybody. I haven’t even read a report that says Starlin Castro is off limits. I imagine he is unless it’s one of those deals you’d be stupid to offer.
As for stop gaps, the O’s and Pirates sign them each year with no hope of contending. I don’t think LaHair can play every day in the OF so acquiring someone for RF was kind of a necessity unless you want to open the season with Jackson in CF. I don’t see that happening. Gaining that extra year is more important than an additional 40 games of experience for him.
I think the Cubs as an interested suitor are being thrown around for a couple of reasons. First, the media is lazy so they see very good GM who has signed high dollar contracts in the past and a team with a lot of money. Then you have the agents more than willing to use the Cubs and the Cubs willingness to allow them to be used. They wanted Pujols away from the Cardinals. They want Fielder away from the Brewers. It makes sense for them to allow themselves to be used.
I get excited at the possibility of the Cubs signing these guys too. That’s inevitable, but it’s also highly unlikely.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]We should buy firetheoepstein.com and put up the forest gif on it (dying laughing)[/quote]I love that idea. Someone should register it.
mb21Quote Reply
firetheoepstein.com is already taken.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I love that idea. Someone should register it.[/quote]I love the idea, but I’m not putting that gif in my name. (dying laughing)
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Let me know when the domain is registered and I’ll work on converting the gif to a swf that will repeat endlessly to Yakety Sax.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]firetheoepstein.com is already taken.[/quote]Damn, I was going to offer to pay for it as long as berselius put it in his name.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
The snark is strong with this one:
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/barry-bonds-gets-30-days-house-arrest-two-years-probation/
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I think I read that Boras wanted to include an opt out in the contract; I’d jump at that and use it to burn him. Give him a 7 year deal worth 25M AAV with an opt out after year 4. Then after he opts out, let him sign elsewhere and install Vogelbach or some other developed prospect.
work sucksQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]firetheoepstein.com is already taken.[/quote]It takes you to a domain name registration site…
http://firetheoepstein.com/
Did someone buy it already? When entered into the search no results are returned.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=work sucks]I think I read that Boras wanted to include an opt out in the contract; I’d jump at that and use it to burn him. Give him a 7 year deal worth 25M AAV with an opt out after year 4. Then after he opts out, let him sign elsewhere and install Vogelbach or some other developed prospect.[/quote]I think that’s how the Sabathia deal was set up and it seemed to work out for CC.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Firetheoepstein.biz is available.
So is .net and .org but .biz always cracks me up.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Let me know when the domain is registered and I’ll work on converting the gif to a swf that will repeat endlessly to Yakety Sax.[/quote]
Approved.
Aisle424Quote Reply
At what point does Fielder’s price come down enough where the Brewers are actually back in play for him?
Aisle424Quote Reply
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]
[/quote]Normally I would do something about a child being raped, but it was like totally the weekend, so…
KIll them all. Line them up, put a cigarette in their mouth, and expel their worthless asses from existence.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Is it also your favorite site for discussions about whether lobster and anal sex are overrated?[/quote]No on the former, HELL YES on the latter.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]No on the former, HELL YES on the latter.[/quote]
It’s not your favorite site for these discussions?
BerseliusQuote Reply
firethoyer.com
there is an option still available…
snyds0122Quote Reply
[quote name=snyds0122]firethoyer.com
there is an option still available…[/quote]so is http://www.theoepsteinisoverratedlikelobsterandanalsex.com
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
(dying laughing), Jerry Angelo just told a Bears beat reporter to “Whistle Dixie” in response to a stupid question. (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing) That was full of win.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
FireTheoNathanEpstein.com
or there is this…
snyds0122Quote Reply
Why not just go with http://firethepersoncurrentlyinchargeoftheChicagoCubs.com?
AndCountingQuote Reply
(dying laughing) at OV’s $100 bid on Yu Darvish.
AndCountingQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting](dying laughing) at OV’s $100 bid on Yu Darvish.[/quote]
Keeping my fingers crossed.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]Why not just go with http://firetheCubs.com?%5B/quote%5Dsounds good
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]It’s not your favorite site for these discussions?[/quote]I have no idea what I said. (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
Not to resurrect anybody’s hopes here, but Jim Bowden, who earlier was the loudest crowing about the Jays winning the Darvish sweeps…deleted the original tweet.
http://twitter.com/#!/JimBowdenESPNxm/status/147646968397697024
He has since tweeted that the Commish’s office hasn’t told anybody anything about nothing to do with Darvish, and won’t, thank you very much, until Nippon Ham accepts the bid.
http://twitter.com/#!/JimBowdenESPNxm/status/147739078572515328
Smokestack LightningQuote Reply
Jim Hendry sent a Darvish bid to Hormel, hoping for a loyalty discount.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting](dying laughing) at OV’s $100 bid on Yu Darvish.[/quote]It’s no laughing matter, AC. If we win the bid, all of us are out $25 thanks to Aisle 424.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It’s no laughing matter, AC. If we win the bid, all of us are out $25 thanks to Aisle 424.[/quote]It’s okay, that money came from Carlos Silva’s contract.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]It’s okay, that money came from Carlos Silva’s contract.[/quote]But it was being used to pay Marlon Byrd.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It’s no laughing matter, AC. If we win the bid, all of us are out $25 thanks to Aisle 424.[/quote]
I should have brought it before the OV Appropriations Committee to have it properly discussed and approved before getting voted on in the next OV referendum election.
Aisle424Quote Reply
OCCUPY AISLE 424!!!!
BerseliusQuote Reply
Worst case scenario is that I will return the gold-plated shoe polisher that I ordered for my OV office to pay the posting fee.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Worst case scenario is that I will return the gold-plated shoe polisher that I ordered for my OV office to pay the posting fee.[/quote]I bet you etched our bid on a Faberge egg to send it in.
BerseliusQuote Reply
new shit: http://obstructedview.net/articles/major-league-baseball/cheatingiest-cheating-cheater.html
mb21Quote Reply