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  • Pirates (sorta) winning, attendance goes up

    In a Hardball Talk blog today, Drew Silva reported that the Pittsburgh Pirates’ attendance is up relative to last year.  A couple reasons why:
    1.  PNC Park is really nice.  As reported below:
    According to Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, ticket sales this year at the gorgeous PNC Park are already up 2.4 percent and are 14 percent ahead of the sales pace set in 2010.
    2.  The Pirates are actually above the Cubs in the standings, just a game below .500, and for a team with little expectation, that’s pretty much winning.  Winning or even the threat of winning, with a team that’s full of potential, seems to bring the fans to the yard.
    Funny how that works.


    205 Responses to “Pirates (sorta) winning, attendance goes up”

    1. 1 Mish says:

      Hah good stuff RC

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    2. 2 Mish says:

      Holy Crap the Cubs won last night? I monitored on my phone til it was 3-1 in the 7th and I basically stopped.

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    3. 3 Mish says:

      IDK why I read the Trib site, but Sully is at it again:

      The news on Byrd and Garza marred a big win for the Cubs, especially after Friday’s 15-5 drubbing by the Red Sox. Carlos Zambrano threw 122 pitches in 52/3 innings, leaving with a 3-1 deficit. He said he didn’t know Garza was injured until he came out of the game and heard Fox analyst Eric Karros mention it on TV.

      Zambrano’s most important contribution was plunking Kevin Youkilis in the backside in retaliation in the fifth, a pitch that led to warnings from plate umpire Alfonso Marquez.

      So having a pretty solid start against one of the best offenses in baseball and giving your team a chance to win is LESS IMPORTANT than some neanderthalistic dick-measuring wherein we potentially run the risk of injury by throwing a ball 90 mph right at someone. Wow, have my spreadsheets been wrong.

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    4. 4 Xoomwaffle says:

      Is it far fetched to think the Jose Bautista already has more HRs than any Cub will have all year?

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    5. 5 GBTS says:

      RC, you’re forgetting that every day in Pittsburgh this year it’s been 75 degrees with no clouds in the sky. That’s the only reason for those attendance numbers.

      /Ricketts’d

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    6. 6 GBTS says:

      [quote name=Alvin]Just to complete yesterday’s weird happenings, I was driving over to Fenway yesterday afternoon, stopped at a light in downtown Boston, when I hear my name called from the car next to me. It was Tom Ricketts, sitting in a taxi stopped next to my rental car.[/quote]Crane: Hey Tom, look, it’s that manchild who keeps sending you fan mail on construction paper.
      Tom: Shit. I hate this fucking guy.
      Crane: Yell at him, see if he blogs about it.

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    7. 7 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=GBTS]RC, you’re forgetting that every day in Pittsburgh this year it’s been 75 degrees with no clouds in the sky. That’s the only reason for those attendance numbers.

      /Ricketts’d[/quote]
      I can’t argue with you today.

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    8. 8 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=GBTS]RC, you’re forgetting that every day in Pittsburgh this year it’s been 75 degrees with no clouds in the sky. That’s the only reason for those attendance numbers.

      /Ricketts’d[/quote]
      It’s a well known fact that the weather in Pittsburgh is picture perfect all the time.

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    9. 9 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]It’s a well known fact that the weather in Pittsburgh is picture perfect all the time.[/quote]
      It’s always sunny in Philadelphia, but they never said shit about Pittsburgh.

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    10. 10 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]It’s always sunny in Philadelphia, but they never said shit about Pittsburgh.[/quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihxKvBHc0cU

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    11. 11 GBTS says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihxKvBHc0cU[/quote]False.

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    12. 12 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihxKvBHc0cU[/quote]
      Shut me right up.

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    13. 13 bubblesdachimp says:

      MB that michigan pitcher is pitching again

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    14. 14 Suburban kid says:
    15. 15 Suburban kid says:

      Wells threw 27 pitches in the first inning against Tucson, giving up a single and a 2-run homer.

      Meanwhile, Al’s still pissed the Cubs didn’t have him pitch in Boston today.

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    16. 16 GBTS says:

      That’s because Alvin believes this series is winnable.

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    17. 17 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=GBTS]That’s because Alvin believes this season is championship-bound.[/quote]
      True fan’d

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    18. 18 Suburban kid says:

      One of the other regulars said the Cubs shouldn’t do that to Wells — have him sacrifice his rehab start to pitch in “such a big game as this.”

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    19. 19 mb21 says:

      Didn’t Wells only throw 45 pitches and last 2 to 3 innings in Low A? Who on earth would want him to make his next start against the Boston fucking Red Sox? Or the Pittsburgh Pirates for that matter?

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    20. 20 mb21 says:

      I wonder where Pirates attendance ends up this year. They’re very likely going to be a lot worse from this point forward. PNC is an awesome part, though.

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    21. 21 mb21 says:

      This title cracks me up: Believers perplexed after prediction fails
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13489641

      That title is something Al would write.

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    22. 22 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=mb21]Didn’t Wells only throw 45 pitches and last 2 to 3 innings in Low A? Who on earth would want him to make his next start against the Boston fucking Red Sox? Or the Pittsburgh Pirates for that matter?[/quote]
      The same guy who thought Kerry Wood should make 2 or 3 starts.

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    23. 23 mb21 says:

      Robert Fitzpatrick, a retired transportation agency worker in New York, said he had spent more than $140,000 (£86,000) of his savings on advertisements in the run-up to 21 May to publicise the prediction.

      After 1800 passed and nothing had happened, he said: “I do not understand why… I do not understand why nothing has happened.”

      “I can’t tell you what I feel right now. Obviously, I haven’t understood it correctly because we’re still here.”

      Robert Fitzpatric is dumber than Nathan H. from Omaha.

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    24. 24 mb21 says:

      The Washington Post reported that suicide prevention hotlines were set up in case believers fell into depression after the apocalypse failed to happen.

      You honestly have to question the intelligence of those who believed this shit.

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    25. 25 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=mb21]You honestly have to question the intelligence of those who believed this shit.[/quote]I like the truck driver who took a week off work to travel to California for the end of the world. Why didn’t he just quit his job?r

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    26. 26 Suburban kid says:

      Although, there was a major volcano eruption in Iceland today. That could be the beginning of the end. I’m taking a wait and see approach.

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    27. 27 GBTS says:

      [quote name=mb21]You honestly have to question the intelligence of those who believed this shit.[/quote]I tried telling them that my spreadsheets said the rapture would never happen in 2011, but they just told me there are some things that a spreadsheet cannot know.

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    28. 28 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=GBTS]I tried telling them that my spreadsheets said the rapture would never happen in 2011, but they just told me there are some things that a spreadsheet cannot know.[/quote]Spreadsheets can’t account for the divine element.

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    29. 29 Suburban kid says:

      Jesus cut short the Rapture, because he loved it.

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    30. 30 Aisle424 says:

      All I know is after this massive failure by God to end the world at this deadline and embarrassing his best followers, he will certainly end it in 2012, because he has to.

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    31. 31 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Jesus cut short the Rapture, because he loved it.[/quote]Shut it down. SK has won the innernetz.

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    32. 32 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Harold Camping knew the rapture was going to happen. He had a source.

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    33. 33 Suburban kid says:

      Wells is probably done after 68 pitches in 4 IP, and giving up 6 hits, 3 BB, 3 K and 7 ER.

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    34. 34 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Wells is probably done after 68 pitches in 4 IP, and giving up 6 hits, 3 BB, 3 K and 7 ER.[/quote]Ugh.

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    35. 35 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Wells is probably done after 68 pitches in 4 IP, and giving up 6 hits, 3 BB, 3 K and 7 ER.[/quote]That line roughly translated to @ Boston would be 2.2 IP, 9 hits, 6 BB, 3 K and 4789 ER.

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    36. 36 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Jesus cut short the Rapture, because he loved it.[/quote](dying laughing) I’m still as confused as could be at what Quade was talking about. I picture four guys standing around watching Garza pitch nearing orgasm when they suddenly become aware of the awkwardness of the situation, at which point they tell Garza to shut it down.

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    37. 37 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]That line roughly translated to @ Boston would be 2.2 IP, 9 hits, 6 BB, 3 K and 4789 ER.[/quote]In other words, what Doug Davis did. And what Russell will do. (dying laughing)

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    38. 38 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21](dying laughing) I’m still as confused as could be at what Quade was talking about. I picture four guys standing around watching Garza pitch nearing orgasm when they suddenly become aware of the awkwardness of the situation, at which point they tell Garza to shut it down.[/quote](dying laughing)

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    39. 39 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I’m watching Oregon-Wash St. right now. Any players on either team anyone wants me to watch for?

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    40. 40 mb21 says:

      Whitenack: 4 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K
      AA so far: 34 IP, 29 H, 8 R, 0 HR, 9 BB, 20 K

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    41. 41 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I’m watching Oregon-Wash St. right now. Any players on either team anyone wants me to watch for?[/quote]Whoever is batting 9th.

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    42. 42 mb21 says:

      Whitenack 2011 season: 57 IP, 40 H, 0 HR, 10 BB, 45 K

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    43. 43 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]Whoever is batting 9th.[/quote](dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    44. 44 Perkins says:

      [quote name=mb21]Robert Fitzpatric is dumber than Alvin Y. from Chicago.[/quote].

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    45. 45 mb21 says:

      The Vittersian Approach from Jae-Hoon Ha is finally catching up to him at AA.

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    46. 46 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]The Vittersian Approach from Jae-Hoon Ha is finally catching up to him at AA.[/quote]You don’t walk off the peninsula.

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    47. 47 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      This pitcher for Oregon looks like the kind of pitcher that excites Mik Quade: low-mid-80′s fastball, poor location, and hittable, with the added bonus of taking forever and a day between pitches.

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    48. 48 shadasrevenge says:

      [quote name=mb21]Didn’t Wells only throw 45 pitches and last 2 to 3 innings in Low A? Who on earth would want him to make his next start against the Boston fucking Red Sox? Or the Pittsburgh Pirates for that matter?[/quote]
      Al Yellon?

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    49. 49 shadasrevenge says:

      It should also be noted that the most expensive ticket at PNC is 52 bucks, and is actually a club level seat. Bleacher seats at PNC are nine bucks, while bleachers seat for some games at Wrigley are 70.

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    50. 50 mb21 says:

      Yeah, you can watch some cheap baseball in Pittsburgh.

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    51. 51 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I christen today Hop Sunday.

      1st course: DesChutes Inversion IPA

      2nd course: 21st Amendment Back in Black IPA

      3rd course: Lagunitas Hop Stoopid

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    52. 52 shadasrevenge says:

      [quote name=mb21]Yeah, you can watch some cheap baseball in Pittsburgh.[/quote]
      Price is one reason I’m going to Kansas City to watch the Cubs as opposed to going to Chicago.

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    53. 53 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=shadasrevenge]Price is one reason I’m going to Kansas City to watch the Cubs as opposed to going to Chicago. That and seeing them play in a modern facility.[/quote]I love Kaufmann. Great ballpark, and super fan and family friendly.

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    54. 54 shadasrevenge says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I love Kaufmann. Great ballpark, and super fan and family friendly.[/quote]
      I haven’t been there since the last time the Cubs were there in 1998, and I’m really looking forward to it. Got some pretty good seats, and they’re probably at least 100 bucks less than I’d have paid for comparable seats at Wrigley.

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    55. 55 mb21 says:

      [quote name=shadasrevenge]I haven’t been there since the last time the Cubs were there in 1998, and I’m really looking forward to it. Got some pretty good seats, and they’re probably at least 100 bucks less than I’d have paid for comparable seats at Wrigley.[/quote]It’s significantly better than it was back then. It’s a really nice park these days.

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    56. 56 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=shadasrevenge]I haven’t been there since the last time the Cubs were there in 1998, and I’m really looking forward to it. Got some pretty good seats, and they’re probably at least 100 bucks less than I’d have paid for comparable seats at Wrigley.[/quote]Oh, for sure. Don’t forget to stop at Gates for BBQ!

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    57. 57 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I christen today Hop Sunday.

      1st course: DesChutes Inversion IPA

      2nd course: 21st Amendment Back in Black IPA

      3rd course: Lagunitas Hop Stoopid[/quote]
      Fuck you, today is Berselius Has Access to Spotted Cow Again Sunday

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    58. 58 Berselius says:

      I tried some of that Inversion IPA a few weeks ago. I thought it was good but I’m not a huge hoppy beer guy

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    59. 59 mb21 says:

      Has anyone heard anything on Marlon Byrd?

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    60. 60 mb21 says:

      I guess he’s going to the DL

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    61. 61 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I tried some of that Inversion IPA a few weeks ago. I thought it was good but I’m not a huge hoppy beer guy[/quote]
      I didn’t know you were a Rastafarian, Berselius.

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    62. 62 Berselius says:

      Miles says Byrd—>DL, Berg —>Cubs is expected

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    63. 63 shadasrevenge says:

      [quote name=mb21]I guess he’s going to the DL[/quote]
      Article in the Tribune says it’s all but a certainty, and that it was swollen shut when he left the hospital.

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    64. 64 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I tried some of that Inversion IPA a few weeks ago. I thought it was good but I’m not a huge hoppy beer guy[/quote]
      Yeah. The Red Chair is a much more rounded version of IPA, with some nice caramel notes from the malt. The Inversion is pretty in-your-face with the Cascade hops.

      [quote name=Berselius]Fuck you, today is Berselius Has Access to Spotted Cow Again Sunday[/quote]
      You. Bastard.

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    65. 65 mb21 says:

      So he is out of the hospital?

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    66. 66 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Miles says Byrd—>DL, Berg —>Cubs is expected[/quote]FREE TYLER COLVIN

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    67. 67 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]So he is out of the hospital?[/quote]Yeah. Left last night, but his eye is apparently swollen shut.

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    68. 68 mb21 says:

      I thought I read he stayed overnight at the hospital

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    69. 69 mb21 says:

      As of Sunday afternoon, Byrd was still recuperating at the Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmiry and it was uncertain when he would be released.

      Is that not part of the hospital?

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    70. 70 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]I thought I read he stayed overnight at the hospital[/quote]My info is secondhand from FB, so yours is probably correct. (dying laughing)

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    71. 71 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]Is that not part of the hospital?[/quote]www.istheMassachusettsEyeandEarInfirmirynotpartofthehospital.com

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    72. 73 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]You. Bastard.[/quote]

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    73. 74 Berselius says:

      Also, beer at 11 am = okay if you woke up at 4 am (dying laughing)

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    74. 75 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I christen today Hop Sunday.

      1st course: DesChutes Inversion IPA

      2nd course: 21st Amendment Back in Black IPA

      3rd course: Lagunitas Hop Stoopid[/quote]
      On a related note, I christen today Jealous Sunday.

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    75. 76 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Perkins]On a related note, I christen today Jealous Sunday.[/quote]Damn. Now I feel bad.

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    76. 77 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Also, beer at 11 am = okay always [/quote].

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    77. 78 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Also, beer at 11 am = okay if you’re watching football and it’s after 5 p.m. in England (dying laughing)[/quote]
      Fixed for my morning.

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    78. 79 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Damn. Now I feel bad.[/quote]
      (dying laughing), it’s no worries. Honestly, I don’t even miss beer that much out here. I still have my coffee and cigars, so it’s all good.

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    79. 80 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Perkins]On a related note, I christen today Jealous Sunday.[/quote]
      If you’re ever in Austin for some random reason, fire me an email and I’ll buy you a beer.

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    80. 81 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Perkins](dying laughing), it’s no worries. Honestly, I don’t even miss beer that much out here. I still have my coffee and cigars, so it’s all good.[/quote]Ah. See, I had none, so I missed them all. (dying laughing)

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    81. 82 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]If you’re ever in Austin for some random reason, fire me an email and I’ll buy you a beer.[/quote]That goes double for Eugene.

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    82. 83 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Ah. See, I had none, so I missed them all. (dying laughing)[/quote]Well now I feel bad. (dying laughing)

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    83. 84 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Perkins]Well now I feel bad. (dying laughing)[/quote](dying laughing), I think that’s the entire point of deployment stories.

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    84. 85 Perkins says:

      I’ll probably pass Eugene before Austin; my goal is to take a cross-country, then down the west coast road trip with the wife once I get back.

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    85. 86 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing), I think that’s the entire point of deployment stories.[/quote]No doubt. All of us here who went to Haiti last year have a ton of stories about how crappy it was, so all the folks who didn’t go are pretty sick of hearing about it. Kinda sad though, that we’re living better in Afghanistan.

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    86. 87 Perkins says:

      Also, Buster Posey just got messed up by a foul tip. That looked painful.

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    87. 88 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Perkins]Also, Buster Posey just got messed up by a foul tip. That looked painful.[/quote]
      Crushed testicle style?

      /ouch

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    88. 89 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Perkins]I’ll probably pass Eugene before Austin; my goal is to take a cross-country, then down the west coast road trip with the wife once I get back.[/quote]If you come from out east, take 94 West once you get past Illinois. It’s amazing.

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    89. 90 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Crushed testicle style?

      /ouch[/quote]Not quite the Barrett special, but he took one to the face mask.

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    90. 91 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Crushed testicle style?

      /ouch[/quote]Ack. That Carlton Fisk story is the worst.

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    91. 92 uncle dave says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]If you come from out east, take 94 West once you get past Illinois. It’s amazing.[/quote]
      Roosevelt National Park is pretty sweet. Typically completely empty, too…

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    92. 93 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]If you come from out east, take 94 West once you get past Illinois. It’s amazing.[/quote]
      Yeah, when I drove to Ft Lewis a few years ago, I took I-90 westward, and I-94 on the return trip. 94 was really nice. I-90 west of Livingston, MT, the ID panhandle, and western Washington were absolutely beautiful. I really want to make that drive again.

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    93. 94 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Berselius]If you’re ever in Austin for some random reason, fire me an email and I’ll buy you a beer.[/quote]I appreciate it. How’s the local beer in Texas? I’m not familiar with anything outside Shiner.

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    94. 95 cdw says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I christen today Hop Sunday.

      1st course: DesChutes Inversion IPA

      2nd course: 21st Amendment Back in Black IPA

      3rd course: Lagunitas Hop Stoopid[/quote]
      About to try my first Lagunitas brew, Wilco Tango Foxtrot. I’ve heard great things about this brewery so I’m ready to be disappointed (dying laughing)

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    95. 96 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Perkins]I appreciate it. How’s the local beer in Texas? I’m not familiar with anything outside Shiner.[/quote]
      Ryno and GW can probably tell you a lot more than I could (dying laughing). I’ve gotten various Rahr beers on Ryno’s rec and they’re good, though we only get a limited selection down in Austin (they’re based in Ft Worth). There’s a great Pecan Porter that I tried on GW’s rec from some place local but I don’t think they bottle it. For the most part my experience with TX beers has been with Shiner since they sell cases of Shiner Bock and their samplers at Costco.

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    96. 97 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=cdw]About to try my first Lagunitas brew, Wilco Tango Foxtrot. I’ve heard great things about this brewery so I’m ready to be disappointed (dying laughing)[/quote]Not at all. WTF is a nice brew, but their IPA range are their crown jewels. All good to very fucking good, IMO.

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    97. 98 Berselius says:

      Nothing I’ve had from TX has been able to dethrone North Coast Brewing’s Pranqster Belgian Golden Ale from the top of my list.

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    98. 99 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Not at all. WTF is a nice brew, but their IPA range are their crown jewels. All good to very fucking good, IMO.[/quote]
      MO should change his name to the US IPA Brewers Marketing Team (dying laughing)

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    99. 100 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]MO should change his name to the US IPA Brewers Marketing Team (dying laughing)[/quote](dying laughing)

      I also enjoy Ambers.

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    100. 101 Berselius says:

      Gordo says 15 day DL for Byrd, multiple facial fractures

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    101. 102 Suburban kid says:

      ¬

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    102. 103 Berselius says:

      Excited to have access to Bell’s products this week too.

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    103. 104 cdw says:

      [quote name=Berselius]MO should change his name to the US IPA Brewers Marketing Team (dying laughing)[/quote]
      Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

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    104. 107 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Excited to have access to Bell’s products this week too.[/quote]Oooh, Expedition Stout…

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    105. 108 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Gordo says 15 day DL for Byrd, multiple facial fractures[/quote]And Tyler Colvin still can’t get PT over Reed.

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    106. 109 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=Berselius]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389660/Armed-police-helicopter-scrambled-hunt-escaped-white-tiger-M27—cuddly-toy.html

      (dying laughing)[/quote]

      I think everyone’s common sense told them it was very unlikely there was actually a tiger on the loose.

      Yeah, except for the cops and the zoo guys. (dying laughing)

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    107. 110 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Hey, they caught the alleged LA parking lot perp

      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/22/l-a-times-suspect-arrested-in-bryan-stow-beating-case//quote
      Excellent. Justice shall be served.

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    108. 111 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Excellent. Justice shall be served.[/quote]
      Hopefully he’ll roll over on the other assailant, if he is indeed the guy

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    109. 112 Rice Cube says:

      I saw some of you folks were talking about Kauffman in KC. I’ve never actually gone inside the stadium, but I drove past it in the middle of the night once on my way from CA to Chicago and the huge KC on the outside was lit up and looked spectacular. From what I’ve seen on TV it looks great on the inside as well. Hope you guys going to that interleague series have a good time.

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    110. 113 Rice Cube says:

      I’m not sure what happened here but it looks very painful.

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    111. 114 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I’m not sure what happened here but it looks very painful.

      [/quote]That’s just a picture of someone who got caught in Tony Campana’s tailwind.

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    112. 115 shadasrevenge says:

      I think it says a lot about this organizations like of any direction that there isn’t anyone better than James Russell available to start tonight. We all know how this is going to go.

      They’re bringing up Berg because they know Russell is going to get smoked and the rest of the bullpen being gassed, but at the same time they’re leaving the bench a guy short by having 13 pitchers on the roster.

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    113. 116 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=shadasrevenge] they’re leaving the bench a guy short by having 13 pitchers on the roster.[/quote]
      I’m sure one of the pitchers can be called on to play left field.

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    114. 117 Berselius says:

      I think it says a lot about this organizations like of any direction that there isn’t anyone better than James Russell available to start tonight. We all know how this is going to go.

      Currently injured or bouncing back from injury

      Matt Garza
      Randy Wells
      Andrew Cashner
      Jay Jackson
      Trey McNutt

      No team has a pitcher that’s going to be worth a damn 8th-9th on their depth chart

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    115. 118 Berselius says:

      I don’t like seeing Russell pitch either, but this reminds me of all the complaints about the 2009 Cubs being doomed because they didn’t have depth to replace their best hitter when he separated his shoulder and went out for 2 months.

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    116. 119 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]
      No team has a pitcher that’s going to be worth a damn 8th-9th on their depth chart[/quote]
      MLB teams are so woefully unprepared.

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    117. 120 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Currently injured or bouncing back from injury

      Matt Garza
      Randy Wells
      Andrew Cashner
      Jay Jackson
      Trey McNutt

      No team has a pitcher that’s going to be worth a damn 8th-9th on their depth chart

      [/quote]I agree. There’s not much you can do here. You’re down to a starting pitcher the Cubs thought they’d never have to use and certainly did not expect to use this often this early in the season. If you consider that the average 5th starter is about a 5.3 runs per 9 pitcher, I’m not even sure that Russell hasn’t performed better than expected based on rotation spot.

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    118. 121 mb21 says:

      I do agree it’s silly to recall Justin Berg. I don’t understand that one. I also won’t understand why Reed Johnson is starting instead of Tony Campana, but whatever.

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    119. 122 Berselius says:

      All of these guys should be higher on the depth chart than Russell

      Demp
      Z
      Garza
      Wells
      Cashner
      Coleman
      Jackson
      McNutt
      Davis

      Throw in Carpenter and Marshall there too if they weren’t bullpened.

      That makes Russell 10th. 12th if you include those other two pitchers.

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    120. 123 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]I do agree it’s silly to recall Justin Berg. I don’t understand that one. I also won’t understand why Reed Johnson is starting instead of Tony Campana, but whatever.[/quote]There’s no reason to play Fukudome and Reed over Campana and Colvin now. The season is lost. Let the kids play.

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    121. 124 Berselius says:

      Too bad the Cubs probably won’t be able to trade Ramirez, except in the bizzaro universe where he agrees not to pick up the $16m player option that vests if he’s traded

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    122. 125 Berselius says:

      Still (dying laughing) at the OBP meter

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    123. 126 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Let the kids play.[/quote]
      Don’t tell them what to do.

      In seriousness though, I agree with you. It’s just a matter of convincing the Cubs that the season really is over instead of holding onto the 0.01% chance that they can still salvage something out of this season.

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    124. 127 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]There’s no reason to play Fukudome and Reed over Campana and Colvin now. The season is lost. Let the kids play.[/quote]
      You’re forgetting about Brad Fucking Snyder, the third head of the replacement level Cubs OF hydra who would replace a DFA’d Soriano.

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    125. 128 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Don’t tell them what to do.

      In seriousness though, I agree with you. It’s just a matter of convincing the Cubs that the season really is over instead of holding onto the 0.01% chance that they can still salvage something out of this season.[/quote]

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    126. 129 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]You’re forgetting about Brad Fucking Snyder, the third head of the replacement level Cubs OF hydra who would replace a DFA’d Soriano.[/quote]You’re forgetting I’m the guy who wouldn’t shut up about Josh Kroeger. (dying laughing)

      Fuck, let Snyder play, too. A OF of Colvin–Campana–Snyder can’t possibly be worse than Soriano–Reed–Fukudome

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    127. 130 Berselius says:

      Where is all this Legend of Tony Campana stuff coming from? Has he ever profiled as more than the 5th outfielder type he appears to me to be?

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    128. 131 Berselius says:

      I think you’re selling Fukudome short, MO, but I definitely agree about Soriano and Reed. Fukudome’s one of the few guys on the team who can demonstrate to the youngsters what the mysterious object known as a “base on balls” is.

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    129. 132 shadasrevenge says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Where is all this Legend of Tony Campana stuff coming from? Has he ever profiled as more than the 5th outfielder type he appears to me to be?[/quote]
      He’s fast, white, and wears his hat one size too big.

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    130. 133 Xoomwaffle says:

      Has Bert Jackson been back yet? Could they just be bringing Berg up to play today, then send someone back down to get Jackson up to replace Byrd?

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    131. 134 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Where is all this Legend of Tony Campana stuff coming from? Has he ever profiled as more than the 5th outfielder type he appears to me to be?[/quote]Nah, nothing special. But Yellon called him the fastest player in baseball the other day.

      I just want the kids to play. No reason not to see what’s there. More than likely, all of Colvin, Campana, and Snyder are reserve OF, at best. But you might as well blood them in and see if one of them can be better.

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    132. 135 Berselius says:

      [quote name=shadasrevenge]He’s fast, white, and wears his hat one size too big.[/quote]
      He’s Sam Fuld 2.0

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    133. 136 Suburban kid says:

      Even Samardzija should be 13th on the chart ahead of Russell.

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    134. 137 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I think you’re selling Fukudome short, MO, but I definitely agree about Soriano and Reed. Fukudome’s one of the few guys on the team who can demonstrate to the youngsters what the mysterious object known as a “base on balls” is.[/quote]
      “Base on balls”…is that like what happens when a player slides into second base but isn’t wearing a cup?

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    135. 138 Berselius says:

      MO, if anything all the injuries this year could mean the club has an excuse to give to the fanbase to go ahead and let the kids play. Of course, that assumes that management doesn’t have their heads up their asses, so this is all moot (dying laughing)

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    136. 139 Suburban kid says:

      Also – 13 pitchers on the 25-man just in time for interleague? WTF?

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    137. 140 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Even Samardzija should be 13th on the chart ahead of Russell.[/quote]
      (dying laughing), let’s not get carried away here. I was talking to a Cubs fan today at DFW who agreed that we need to blow up the team, and that he loves the Cubs young talent like Castro, Barney, and…Jeff Samardzija (dying laughing).

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    138. 141 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]MO, if anything all the injuries this year could mean the club has an excuse to give to the fanbase to go ahead and let the kids play. Of course, that assumes that management doesn’t have their heads up their asses, so this is all moot (dying laughing)[/quote]Yeah, all the right thigns have happened for the club to give youngsters a chance. Unfortunately, they hired a manger who has a grizzled veteran fetish.

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    139. 142 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Also – 13 pitchers on the 25-man just in time for interleague? WTF?[/quote]
      Why not? How many lineup moves do teams typically make in AL parks anyway? If anything NL teams need the extra cannon fodder against AL lineups (dying laughing)

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    140. 143 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Why not? How many lineup moves do teams typically make in AL parks anyway? If anything NL teams need the extra cannon fodder against AL lineups (dying laughing)[/quote]
      The Yankees are one team I know of who carry extra pitching and have a short bench. Unless the DH gets hurt you just need a backup catcher, IF and OF and that’s pretty much it most games.

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    141. 144 Rice Cube says:

      Chase Utley returns on Monday…possibly.

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    142. 145 Xoomwaffle says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Where is all this Legend of Tony Campana stuff coming from? Has he ever profiled as more than the 5th outfielder type he appears to me to be?[/quote]Al said something about him being the fastest player in MLB

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    143. 146 mb21 says:

      I’m OK with Fukudome playing since the team will try to trade him.

      As for Tony Campana, he may be the fastest guy in baseball right now. I don’t know for sure, but the guy can fucking fly. He is a 5th outfielder, but I’ve been writing something for the last couple days and I ran the numbers on Campana and Soriano. Campana’s CAIRO was a .285 wOBA, Soriano’s is about .345. Soriano is horrible on defense so I figure -10 is generous to him. How good would Campana have to be on the bases and in the field to be more valuable than Soriano (assuming Campana plays CF)? Shockingly, only 13 runs better than average. I think we can safely say that Campana is at least 3 runs better than the average baserunner. He’s also known as a good fielder. Is he 10 runs better than average? If so, he’s as valuable as Alfonso Soriano.

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    144. 147 mb21 says:

      Jackson hasn’t returned yet to the Smokies yet. Not sure when he’s due back.

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    145. 148 Berselius says:

      Is he 10 runs better than average

      That’s a stretch to believe about anyone, unless they’re billed by scouts as the second coming of Andruw Jones.

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    146. 149 Berselius says:

      [quote name=mb21]Jackson hasn’t returned yet to the Smokies yet. Not sure when he’s due back.[/quote]
      I keep forgetting that Jackson was injured. This fucking team and injuries (dying laughing)

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    147. 150 mb21 says:

      I’m guessing Justin Berg is up for one day (today). He’ll take over for Russell in the bottom of the 1st with the Cubs down 9-0 and pitch 3 innings and be sent back to Iowa tomorrow.

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    148. 151 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]I’m guessing Justin Berg is up for one day (today). He’ll take over for Russell in the bottom of the 1st with the Cubs down 9-0 and pitch 3 innings and be sent back to Iowa tomorrow.[/quote]Hopefully Colvin comes up and gets regular AB then. I have no desire to see Reed Johnson play every day.

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    149. 152 Berselius says:

      Bourn was the only double-digit UZR guy last year (followed by Byrd (!) and Borbon). A lot of guys were double digits in DRS (in order: A Jackson, Bourn, Gutierrez, Rios, Byrd, Victorino, Young)

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    150. 153 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Berselius]That’s a stretch to believe about anyone, unless they’re billed by scouts as the second coming of Andruw Jones.[/quote]I wouldn’t count on him being +10 on defense, but I have read in the past that he’s pretty good. I think a .285 wOBA is silly. Campana isn’t a good hitter by any means, but I see no reason he won’t be somewhere between .300 and .310 with the chance to be a bit better than that.

      The point is that Soriano is also a 5th outfielder at this point in his career. A 5th outfielder you only want to use as a pinch hitter.

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    151. 154 Xoomwaffle says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Hopefully Colvin comes up and gets regular AB then. I have no desire to see Reed Johnson play every day.[/quote]
      Does he play Center, then? Who is playing Center tonight?

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    152. 155 Rice Cube says:

      CIN blown out by the Indians again.

      STL-KC to extras.

      Cubs still won’t be able to make up ground (dying laughing)

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    153. 156 mb21 says:

      I’d assume Reed plays CF tonight.

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    154. 157 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]
      The point is that Soriano is also a 5th outfielder at this point in his career. A 5th outfielder you only want to use as a pinch hitter.[/quote]
      Vs. LHP whose names end in “F” on Thurssdays in June when the wind is blowing to the west.

      /Ari Kaplan

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    155. 158 Berselius says:

      [quote name=mb21]I’d assume Reed plays CF tonight.[/quote]
      Fukudome RF,
      Barney 2B,
      Castro SS,
      Ramirez 3B,
      Pena 1B,
      Baker LF,
      Soriano DH,
      Castillo C,
      Johnson CF,
      Russell P

      At least he’s batting 8th 9th (stupid AL lineup) vs a RHP. And no Koyie!

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    156. 159 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Xoomwaffle]Does he play Center, then? Who is playing Center tonight?[/quote]www.whoisplayingCFtonight.com

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    157. 160 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]www.whoisplayingCFtonight.com[/quote]
      I thought Why was in CF.

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    158. 161 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Reed Johnson. Fucking Quade. That alopecian fucker loves Reed Johnson.

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    159. 162 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I thought Why was in CF.[/quote]You’ve been warned.

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    160. 163 Berselius says:

      Reed Johnson. Fucking Quade.

      I hope this is not something we see on the air tonight.

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    161. 164 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I hope this is not something we see on the air tonight.[/quote]
      I didn’t know Quade played catcher.

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    162. 165 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I hope this is not something we see on the air tonight.[/quote]If Reed plays 9 innings, it’s inevitable.

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    163. 166 Rice Cube says:

      Why is Baker in LF now? Does he hit knuckleballers well or something?

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    164. 167 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Why is Baker in LF now? Does he hit knuckleballers well or something?[/quote]Quade wants to see what happens.

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    165. 168 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Note: Quade has played MIF in LF two consecutive days, but he had no idea how to get Colvin any PA. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

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    166. 169 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Note: Quade has played MIF in LF two consecutive days, but he had no idea how to get Colvin any PAmanage a major league ball club. Riiiiiiiiiiight.[/quote]
      I see.

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    167. 170 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing)

      Two bases-loaded walks and the Cardinals are ahead in extras. Nice work KC.

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    168. 171 Berselius says:

      Is the CW with knuckleballers that platoon splits don’t really matter?

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    169. 172 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Oregon’s closer is kinda nasty…

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    170. 173 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Is the CW with knuckleballers that platoon splits don’t really matter?[/quote]
      I think that’s right, but I was just wondering why Baker is in LF and not an ACTUAL OUTFIELDER.

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    171. 174 Suburban kid says:

      The Cubs have about seven 5th OFs. (dying laughing)

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    172. 175 Rice Cube says:

      Billy Butler is very strong.

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    173. 176 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I think that’s right, but I was just wondering why Baker is in LF and not an ACTUAL OUTFIELDER.[/quote]Becasue the 5th OF is starting in CF, and 4th OF just got sent down to AAA.

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    174. 177 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Becasue the 5th OF is starting in CF, and 4th OF just got sent down to AAA.[/quote]
      Ah, so they DID forget about Tony Campana.

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    175. 178 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Billy Butler is very strong.[/quote]
      Here’s a picture of him doing his off-season job:

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    176. 179 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Ah, so they DID forget about Tony Campana.[/quote]He’s so fast, his name won’t stay on the lineup card.

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    177. 180 Berselius says:

      Wow. Colby Rasmus with 5 walks in today’s game

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    178. 181 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing) When Wash St. scores, they play the Sex Panther “Rawr Rawr” sound on the PA

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    179. 182 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Oregon blow the save. This is like watching the Cubs. (dying laughing)

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    180. 183 Suburban kid says:

      I just realized the fuckyeahnouns site only takes images from Flickr and/or similar sites, hence all the awkward snapshots.

      Which means you can find lots of your friends and family in there (as long as their names aren’t too common). (dying laughing)

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    181. 184 Aisle424 says:

      The Cubbieezzz fanz still belieeeeve!!! 111 Rec’d 11111

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    182. 185 Suburban kid says:

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    183. 186 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Not at all. WTF is a nice brew, but their IPA range are their crown jewels. All good to very fucking good, IMO.[/quote]I’m especially partial to Lil’ Sumpin’ Sumpin’. I was skeptical at the idea of a wheat IPA, but it’s an outstanding summer beer.

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    184. 187 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]

      The Cubbieezzz fanz still belieeeeve!!! 111 Rec’d 11111[/quote]Those folks support Einstein’s assertion that human stupidity is infinite.

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    185. 188 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Perkins]Those folks support Einstein’s assertion that human stupidity is infinite.[/quote]
      If someone cared to do a game thread, we’d know that there is about a 25% chance that those stupid humans could be right (dying laughing)

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    186. 189 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]If someone cared to do a game thread, we’d know that there is about a 25% chance that those stupid humans could be right (dying laughing)[/quote]
      (dying laughing), like a stopped clock twice a day?

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    187. 190 Rice Cube says:

      Giants tie!

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    188. 191 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Perkins](dying laughing), like a stopped clock twice a day?[/quote]
      They’ll use that to shut you right up.

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    189. 192 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]They’ll use that to shut you right up.[/quote]I can’t argue with you today.

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    190. 193 Suburban kid says:

      Holy shit that ESPN intro ripped the piss out of Cubs fans.

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    191. 194 Suburban kid says:

      I don’t think Byrd comes back this year.

      I could be off base, but multiple facial fractures sounds like it needs a long time to heal before you can go back to playing a contact sport.

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    192. 195 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Holy shit that ESPN intro ripped the piss out of Cubs fans.[/quote]
      Ooooh! I hope they have it on Youtube later.

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    193. 196 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]I don’t think Byrd comes back this year.

      I could be off base, but multiple facial fractures sounds like it needs a long time to heal before you can go back to playing a contact sport.[/quote]
      That really depends on the severity of the fractures, but it definitely doesn’t sound good. However they do have ear flap extenders to protect players with facial injuries. I don’t think it’s a good idea to rush Byrd back given the context of this year’s team though…player welfare should come first regardless.

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    194. 197 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=some site on the Internet]Facial bone fractures take many months to completely heal. During this time,
      avoid any activities that may injure the surgery site..[/quote].

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    195. 198 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid].[/quote]
      That must be different from broken noses then…I know basketball players will wear a protective mask when they have broken noses, but some of those are also broken cheekbones. I agree with you that Byrd probably doesn’t come back this year.

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    196. 199 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I don’t think it’s a good idea to rush Byrd back given the context of this year’s team though….[/quote]
      Yeah, but since they have to contend, you never know, let’s see what happens, this actually makes a trade of Fukudome less likely now. Maybe they will trade for (dying laughing).

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    197. 200 Suburban kid says:

      ESPN: the Curse is good for baseball.

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    198. 201 Suburban kid says:

      Wasn’t this game supposed to start 12 minutes ago?

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    199. 202 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Wasn’t this game supposed to start 12 minutes ago?[/quote]
      8 Eastern…7 Central.

      How come they’re doing a one-hour intro to this game?

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    200. 204 shadasrevenge says:

      Well fuck me, James Russell. That was a pretty good pitch.

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    201. 205 shadasrevenge says:

      Those of you who had the over at “one inning,” please make your way to the cage to collect your winnings.

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