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Iowa

There isn't anyone left in Iowa to write about so lets just say Casey Coleman had a good start. Also, Esmalin Caridad should be back up in the pen. He has been very tough this year.

Smokies

Trey McNutt struck out 3 and allowed 1 ER in 3 IP. I thought they would keep this guy in 1 inning situations to see how he responded to that role but if anything it seems he is getting stretched back out. 

Daytona

Javier Baez got the clown shoes. He struck out 3 times giving him a total of 5 K's in 8 AB's. Christian Villanueva was 2-4 and John Andreoli stole his 44th base of the year.

Peoria

Michael Jensen had a nice start. Jensen worked 5 IP allowing 1 ER and striking out 4. Al Yellon was in attendance and wrote what I consider, to be, the most, tortured, (sentence of English, which is a language) of all, time,. This is Yellon describing Jensen's start: "He threw five very nice innings, holding Clinton to five hits and a run, and striking out four. He might have gone further than that, but something you'll see at this level, showing the difference in ability, dropped foul popups, extended at bats that should have produced outs." 

Boise

Dan Vogelbach was 1-5 with a BB and the game winning HR. Vogelbach now has 9 HR's and an OPS over 1.000 over two levels so far this year. He's every bit the hitter that we heard about after last years draft. Trey Martin went 3-4 with at triple and is hitting .279. Vogelbach wasn't the only Hawk going deep as C Lance Rymel went 2-4 with a pair of dongers. 

AZL

Duane Underwood got lit up failing to make it out of the 1st inning. Underwood gave up 3 hits and 3 ER including a HR and only retired one batter. On the hitting side Ben Carhart was 2-4 and looked stylish in his work coat while doing it. 

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    Mercurial Outfielder

    Sullivan finally found a source. Hoyer. Who says it didn’t go down the way Sullivan fabricated described it. Which did not stop Sullivan from insisting on his version of events. I’m 99% sure Sullivan made this whole thing up to provoke a reaction from THoyer, who otherwise want nothing to do with his myopic, craven, uninformed and lazy brand of sportswriting.

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    josh

    He might have gone further than that, but something you’ll see at this level, showing the difference in ability, dropped foul popups, extended at bats that should have produced outs

    That’s some tasty English.

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    Mercurial Outfielder

    Did Yellon even go to school? I have international students who barely speak English, and they regularly compose better sentences than he can.

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    Mercurial Outfielder

    @ josh:
    Sullivan said the Dodgers were mad THoyer let Dempster listen to trade talks on the phone. The Dodgers won’t even comment on the story, Rosenthal and Morosi, who seem to have the best sources in the LAD org, aren’t running with it, and today Hoyer debunked it. Sullivan is still running with it.

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    mb21

    The point of this study is that it is unreasonable to sign a long contract with the expectation that you will have a player on top of his game the whole time. Instead, you should sign a player for as long as you expect him to merit a roster spot, and price accordingly. Make sure it’s a bargain at the beginning, since these contracts are effectively loans. The end of the contract is the repayment period for elite seasons banked at the beginning.

    Overall, this analysis should dispel the myth that long-term contracts are usually bad. Instead, they are usually about average, but with a lot of risk in either direction. Having some risks with favorable outcomes is a prerequisite for a championship, while unfavorable outcomes can remove a team from contention for years at a time.

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    EnricoPallazzo

    “He threw five very nice innings, holding Clinton to five hits and a run, and striking out four. He might have gone further than that, but something you’ll see at this level, showing the difference in ability, dropped foul popups, extended at bats that should have produced outs.”

    if you imagine christopher walken reading this out loud, it sounds normal.

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    Mercurial Outfielder

    Kaplan talked to Dempster, Dempster refuted the story. Sullivan fabricated this entire story. He should be fired without interpose delay. He is done.

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  8. Rodrigo Ramirez

    What’s funny, is that all the links in that story go back to articles originated by the Tribune, not another news source to corroborate.

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    mb21

    Sullivan didn’t lie. Theo admitted right after the trade that Dempster listened in. Now they’re covering it up.

    My issue with Sullivan had nothing to do with Dempster listening in but about how the Dodgers would unwilling to trade with the cubs in the future.

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  10. Rodrigo Ramirez

    @ mb21:

    Yes, I’m aggravated he made that claim with no supporting sources. I guess that’s my biggest issue with all of this.

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    dylanj

    Dempster wouldn’t help cover it up for Theo. He doesnt work for them anymore. Honestly, the Dodgers never said a word about being “pissed” it was just Sullivan deciding they might be

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    WaLi

    @ EnricoPallazzo:
    So Dempster was having sex with his kid’s nanny?

    Ted Lilly: You know, the kids don’t look very taken care of. What happened to the nanny?
    Dempster: Well, she’s here. She just didn’t get around to it.
    Lilly: Oh.
    (Nanny comes from Dempster’s bedroom.)
    Nanny: Hi, Ted.
    (She picks up her money from the counter.)
    Nanny: Thanks, Ryan. Bye.
    (She leaves.)
    Lilly: Well, what’s the matter?
    Dempster: What did I just pay for?
    Lilly: Uh-oh. You’re a john.

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    Mercurial Outfielder

    @ mb21:
    He did lie. He does not have one single source that confirms the Dodgers (a) knew anything about how the Cubs FO handled the trade negotiations and (b) that the Dodgers are pissed about how the Cubs FO handled the trade negotiations. Not. One. Single. Source. Rosenthal and Morosi seemed to have the best contacts in the Dodger FO. Neither of them have touched this “story.” The Dodgers have refused to comment, and both Hoyer and Dempster have contradicted Sullivan’s version of events. He has absolutely no ground to speculate like he has, and even less grounds to masquerade that speculation as the reporting of fact. He made this up out of an offhand, poorly worded comment from Theo. There is nothing to corroborate Sullivan’s initial story. It’s a complete fabrication.

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    bubblesdachimp

    Dont know if anyone seen this but it was in Jayson Starks most recent column

    “So what’s up with that? According to baseball-reference.com’s fabulous Play Index, Camp was the first relief pitcher in the live-ball era to enter a game, face seven hitters (or more) and give up a hit to all of them. That’s what.”

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    WaLi

    So Darwin Barney is on like a 91-game errorless streak at 2B? Didn’t he get an error a few weeks ago? They must have taken it away or something.

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  16. TheVan

    I should’ve said he had 2 errors, I think…not actually. I thought it was 2 errors in one game, but both happened while playing SS.

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    mb21

    @ Mercurial Outfielder:
    I don’t know what you mean by initial story, but here are Theo’s words:

    “It was an unusual situation. But I think it as helpful to have him there so he could hear first-hand that (the Dodgers deal) wasn’t going to happen,” Cubs president Theo Epstein said

    Every outlet ran with Dempster listening because that’s what Theo said.

    The article I linked last night was pure speculation. There are no lies. It’s just Sullivan speculating it might be difficult to trade with the Dodgers over this. I think it’s nonsense as I said last night, but Theo said Dempster listened in.

    That Hoyer is now contradicting what Theo said doesn’t make the initial article false (Carrie Muskat ran with it too because that’s what Theo said).

    Sullivan is a piece of shit and his article last night was nonsense, but it wasn’t because he fabricated a story about Dempster listening in. He was told, like other beat reporters were told at the same time, that Dempster listened in. It’s plain as day that Theo says Dempster listened in.

    In the final hour before the Trade Deadline on Tuesday, Dempster was with Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer to listen to conversations with the Dodgers.

    Once he came into our office and actually heard the conversations we had with L.A., he came to realize, ‘OK, that’s not actually going to happen, let me consider a couple other places,’ and the deal got done with about three minutes left,” Epstein said.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120801&content_id=35943810&notebook_id=35945046&vkey=notebook_chc&c_id=chc&partnerId=rss_chc&target=Z&source=PJ_AD:Z:MLB&affiliateId=21181&clickId=432093844&affiliateCustomId=skim32290X899567X098c39c5bb09c92ede13221a0fbe2181

    This cannot be mistaken as anything other than Theo saying that Ryan Dempster came in to listen to the discussions.

    I hate defending Sullivan, especially when I think he wrote a shitty article last night, but saying he lied about this is untrue. Maybe Sullivan was lied to by Theo (and so were the other reporters), but he and they were told Dempster listened in.

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