Quade realizes the Cubs have no speed, backs off aggressive baserunning talk

In News And Rumors by berselius88 Comments

It’s nice to see the team back off from another dumb policy. At the beginning of spring training (and IIRC the offseason) Quade said that the Cubs were going to be more aggressive on the basepaths. Via the hobbit:

“I almost feel like we’re forcing something that we shouldn’t,” Quade said. “It goes against everything (I believe) — ‘We’re going to be aggressive, we want to run …’ Yeah, you’re going to run yourself into a lot of outs….We just need to run with our heads.”

Much like the decision to release Carlos Silva this is more of a common sense, let’s not do something negative move than necessarily a positive development. But it’s nice to see the Cubs pull their head out of the sand twice in three days.

The Cubs have been awful at baserunning, and it’s not just Ryan Theriot. MB took a look at this last January and found that it’s not even a recent phenomenon. If you look at just the last 5 years using Baseball Prospectus’s Equivalent Baserunning Runs (EQBRR), which combine stolen bases/caught stealing with stuff like going from first to third, scoring from second on a single, etc., this is what you get:

Year EQBRR
2010 -8
2009 -14
2008 -13.1
2007 -12.3
2006 -2

I guess they improved last year (laughing). 2006 was the last relatively decent year, but that was buoyed by Juan Pierre’s baserunning numbers. A few other regulars, such as 2008 Kosuke, 2008 Mark Derosa’s Stubble, and oddly enough 2010 Soriano and Koyie have put up EQBRRs above 2, but overall the Cubs are an old team without speed.


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  1. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=AndCounting]I tried clearing the cache and cookies (in Settings, Safari) but to no avail.[/quote]I’m all for finding the correct solution and everything, but you should smash your phone with a ball-peen hammer.

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  2. Mercurial Outfielder

    Any further posts containing the Cubs’ baserunning numbers should come with a nightmare fuel warning.

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  3. Mercurial Outfielder

    At least this team has some mashers. If this was the 2009 Cubs, their offense would be on even worse footing.

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  4. melissa

    So, Mike Fucking Quade is willing to admit the Cubs aren’t going to be a base stealing machine? Bra-fucking-vo. He just admitted that what he said two months ago was an unrealistic pipe dream.

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  5. Tom Tunney

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-0329-united-wrigley-20110328,0,2143183.story[/quote]
    I want to know why the neighborhood was not consulted. Now those poor Wrigleyville residents who are continually shocked to find Wrigley Field in their neighborhood are also going to have to deal with confused tourists thinking that they can catch a plane there.

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  6. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Tom Tunney]I want to know why the neighborhood was not consulted. Now those poor Wrigleyville residents who are continually shocked to find Wrigley Field in their neighborhood are also going to have to deal with confused tourists thinking that they can catch a plane there.[/quote](dying laughing)

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  7. Mercurial Outfielder

    You guys better be careful. Now the the Honorable Mr. Tunney of the 44th Ward is a reader, the city will be in your pockets with a quickness.

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  8. AndCounting

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]You guys better be careful. Now the the Honorable Mr. Tunney of the 44th Ward is a reader, the city will be in your pockets with a quickness.[/quote]How much does it cost to get undiscredited?

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  9. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=AndCounting]How much does it cost to get undiscredited?[/quote]Last time I was at 125 LaSalle, about the price of a bar tab for night out on Rush.

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  10. AndCounting

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Last time I was at 125 LaSalle, about the price of a bar tab for night out on Rush.[/quote]Crap. I was hoping a $10 bleacher ticket sale would be enough.

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  11. Aisle424

    Kris: We could have gotten bleacher seats in SF for $10.
    Me: Yeah, but then Al would be all pissed off we paid less than him for a baseball game.
    Kris: Do you think I give a fuck what Al fucking thinks?

    I love her.

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  12. Berselius

    [quote name=AndCounting]Crap. I was hoping a $10 bleacher ticket sale would be enough.[/quote](dying laughing)

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  13. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]So 10 Schrutebucks.[/quote]
    I didn’t realize the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns was so good right now

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  14. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=AndCounting]Crap. I was hoping a $10 bleacher ticket sale would be enough.[/quote]No self-respecting city councilperson would stoop so low as to collect a discounted ticket that so dishonors the gullibility of the most treasured fans.

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  15. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]I didn’t realize the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns was so good right now[/quote]It’s been a very good beet harvest.

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  16. Aisle424

    [quote name=Berselius]I didn’t realize the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns was so good right now[/quote]
    The market is crazy right now. The Cubs are only getting like 10 cents on the dollar for their hope right now.

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  17. Berselius

    [quote name=Aisle424]The market is crazy right now. The Cubs are only getting like 10 cents on the dollar for their hope right now.[/quote]
    The damn hobbits are flooding the market

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  18. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius]The damn hobbits are flooding the market[/quote]Well the hobbits are cleverly explaining to everyone that the money from last year’s unicorns was spent on this year’s leprechaun’s, so that this year’s unicorns now cost more because of the money that was spent on leprechauns.

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  19. Aisle424

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Well the hobbits are cleverly explaining to everyone that the money from last year’s unicorns was spent on this year’s leprechaun’s, so that this year’s unicorns now cost more because of the money that was spent on leprechauns.[/quote]
    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)

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  20. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Berselius](dying laughing), we’re on a roll tonight.[/quote]That last thread was epic. I was nearly in tears.

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  21. Dean

    Interesting data that leaves me still trying to figure out what type of team Jim Hendry tries to build. They are not built on speed, not built on power, not built on OBP, not built on defense, not built on pitching, not built on….

    It’s not even a mix of anything. Beyond the bad trades and bad signings, Hendry doesn’t seem to have a vision for what type of team he needs to put together in order to win a championship. His strategy seems to be keep trying a bunch of guys and see what happens.

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  22. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Dean]Interesting data that leaves me still trying to figure out what type of team Jim Hendry tries to build. They are not built on speed, not built on power, not built on OBP, not built on defense, not built on pitching, not built on….

    It’s not even a mix of anything. Beyond the bad trades and bad signings, Hendry doesn’t seem to have a vision for what type of team he needs to put together in order to win a championship. His strategy seems to be keep trying a bunch of guys and see what happens.[/quote]
    (dying laughing) That last sentence is the most succinct summation of the Hendry Plan that I have ever read.

    Seriously, though, Dean, I think you’re right. There’s no coherent plan here. It’s like Hendry plays darts by grabbing all three darts and hucking them all at the board at once.

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  23. AndCounting

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]That last thread was epic. I was nearly in tears.[/quote]I read it right before watching Parks and Rec and laughed ten times as hard during the thread. And next to What’s Happenin’?, that’s the funniest show I’ve seen in recent years.

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  24. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]That last thread was epic. I was nearly in tears.[/quote]
    The McCain phone bit alone had me in stitches

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  25. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=AndCounting]I read it right before watching Parks and Rec and laughed ten times as hard during the thread. And next to What’s Happenin’?, that’s the funniest show I’ve seen in recent years.[/quote]The Flying Nun was a recent comedy I enjoyed.

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  26. Aisle424

    [quote name=Dean]Interesting data that leaves me still trying to figure out what type of team Jim Hendry tries to build. They are not built on speed, not built on power, not built on OBP, not built on defense, not built on pitching, not built on….

    It’s not even a mix of anything. Beyond the bad trades and bad signings, Hendry doesn’t seem to have a vision for what type of team he needs to put together in order to win a championship. His strategy seems to be keep trying a bunch of guys and see what happens.[/quote]
    It’s built on the human element.

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  27. Berselius

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]The 2011 Chicago Cubs: We Kept Some Guys. Let’s See What Happens.[/quote]
    World Series Bound!

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  28. bubblesdachimp

    Dempster vs. Correia
    Zambrano vs. Maholm
    Garza vs. Ohlendorf

    After opening season vs. worst two teams in the NL we should have a solid idea if we are going to suck or not. If we start out any worse than 3-3 i am giving up hope

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  29. Suburban kid

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Ak-47 is the tool.
    Don’t make me act a mothafuckin’ fool.

    /because SK isn’t here to do it[/quote]
    [quote name=GW]I think SK went to bed already.[/quote].

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  30. Suburban kid

    Sorry I missed your memefest.

    MB’s got it all wrong. He called Twin Peaks a recent TV show, while I was talking about Ozzie Smith as a recent baseball player.

    We both objected to each other’s use of the word recent, even though both references were from the same time period.

    I pointed out that TV has only been around half as long as MLB, so the curve of recentness is different. He ignored that and started reminiscing about Miss Ellie and Cliff Barnes.

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  31. Suburban kid

    [quote name=mb21]I also watched Falcon Crest for a short period of time so if you want to make fun of me for that, go ahead. That just wasn’t as good as Dallas though.[/quote]

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  32. Suburban kid

    You: Hi
    Stranger: hi
    You: Dallas is a recent TV show that MB21 likes.
    Your conversational partner has disconnected.

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  33. Suburban kid

    You: Hi
    Stranger: Hello
    You: Are you bald?
    Stranger: Negative.
    You: Oh well, I like bald men.
    Stranger: That’s unfortunate. They have a lot of skin conditions.
    You: Can I call you Baldy McGrindy?
    Stranger: If I were bald, yes.
    Stranger: I’ll answer to Stallion.
    You: What about this strategy…..keep some guys, see what happens?
    Stranger: What?
    You: Would you consider Dallas a recent show?
    Stranger: Not at all.
    You: What about Twin Peaks?
    Stranger: Nope.
    You: Is Ozzie Smith a recent baseball player?
    Stranger: Nope.
    Stranger: Recent is witin a decade.
    Stranger: within
    You: Hmmmm. How would rank the Jack Benny Radio Show seasons?
    Stranger: Never listened.
    You: Oh, you should check it out. Especially the more recent ones.
    Stranger: I’m 20.
    You: I’m 187
    Stranger: Was Amelia Earhart a cool broad?
    You: Not as hot as Miss Ellie. You should really watch Dallas on your Betamax.
    Stranger: I’d rather run it on my Laserdisk.
    You: What’s your favorite meme?
    Stranger: Happy Turtle.
    You: Mine is (dying laughing)
    Stranger: I like forever alane.
    Stranger: alone.
    You: See you later Stallion. Sk out, fuckface!
    Stranger: Later, dickwad.
    Your conversational partner has disconnected.

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  34. bubblesdachimp

    Would yall brind Dome back next year as a fourth outfielder. I mean he has some on base skills has a good arm in RF can play center in a pinch.. Thoughts on bringing him back at 1 year 3 million if he would do it?

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  35. Suburban kid

    I’d like Kosuke back if he would do that, but he’d probably look for a starting job somewhere.

    What’s great about the new site on a mobile is how fast it loads, even with lots of comments. Actually, even on the PC it loads MUCH faster than ACB had been the last year or so.

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  36. Dr. Aneus Taint

    You guys need to stop all this talk about stupid shit and get back to what’s important: Cubs baseball.

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  37. bubblesdachimp

    [quote name=Suburban Kid]I’d like Kosuke back if he would do that, but he’d probably look for a starting job somewhere.

    What’s great about the new site on a mobile is how fast it loads, even with lots of comments. Actually, even on the PC it loads MUCH faster than ACB had been the last year or so.[/quote]
    Yea Bubbles is quite the fan of whoeever did the technological nonsense

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  38. mb21

    [quote name=Suburban Kid]I’d like Kosuke back if he would do that, but he’d probably look for a starting job somewhere.

    What’s great about the new site on a mobile is how fast it loads, even with lots of comments. Actually, even on the PC it loads MUCH faster than ACB had been the last year or so.[/quote]I got rid of the option last night to switch to standard because it’s quite difficult getting back to mobile. I also added a search at the bottom of the mobile page and change the login to a mobile login. I also got rid of that ad at the bottom.

    I need to add a link at the top of the comments that takes you to the bottom. I noticed the other day when 424, AC, b and I had 400 comments on a threat we’d been using for a couple weeks it takes for fucking ever to scroll to the bottom on the iphone.

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  39. mb21

    I’m going to make some changes to the URL structure right now. It should work, but it’s possible you’ll get some 404 errors

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  40. GBTS

    [quote name=mb21]I’m going to make some changes to the URL structure right now. It should work, but it’s possible you’ll get some 404 errors[/quote]Discredited.

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  41. Suburban kid

    [quote name=mb21]I’m 187 (dying laughing) (dying laughing)[/quote]That guy kicked my ass. He wasn’t fazed at all. The best was when he defined recent for me.

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  42. mb21

    All links have been updated to look a lot better than the shit it was before. Just refresh your page and it should take you to the correct link.

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  43. Suburban kid

    [quote name=mb21]it takes for fucking ever to scroll to the bottom on the iphone.[/quote]Yeah that sucks ass. There is some way to get around that, but I’m not sure if it’s an app you need or if you have to shake it three times and tap the screen twice in order to page down quickly.

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  44. Dr. Aneus Taint

    Watch your attitude.
    Because, frankly, I’m tired of it. Last chance.

    Check out Chicago sports coverage at SB Nation Chicago
    by Al Yellon on Mar 28, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply

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  45. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote]The Steelers are probably the best run franchise in all of pro sports, the Cubs are probably the worst,

    The worst?
    Really? Think about the Pirates or Royals in MLB, the Clippers in the NBA, and some others I’m forgetting right now. The Cubs aren’t even close to “worst”.

    Check out Chicago sports coverage at SB Nation Chicago
    by Al Yellon on Mar 29, 2011 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions [/quote]
    Great examples, Alvin. KC and PIT both won World Series recently (see what I did there?) and I bet the Clippers win a ring before CHC.

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  46. mb21

    [quote name=Suburban Kid]Yeah that sucks ass. There is some way to get around that, but I’m not sure if it’s an app you need or if you have to shake it three times and tap the screen twice in order to page down quickly.[/quote]I didn’t even know that. It should be easy enough to add an anchor on the comment box and then a link at the top of the comments. I’m also going to try to make the login display on here more friendly. Probably won’t get either of those done this week though.

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  47. Dr. Aneus Taint

    Al, we all know they’re both turds….
    we’re debating why our GM wants to keep the biggest, smelliest one.
    by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 28, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

    How about keeping the language cleaner?
    We’re talking about human beings here.
    by Al Yellon on Mar 28, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions

    Alvin has to be a bit. “Turds” is now bad language not to be used to describe sweet, innocent human beings.

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  48. mb21

    MB’s got it all wrong. He called Twin Peaks a recent TV show, while I was talking about Ozzie Smith as a recent baseball player.

    My opinion is not wrong! /Alvin

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  49. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]My opinion is not wrong! /Alvin[/quote]True and false are really just a difference in opinion and neither one is truly right.

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  50. Mish

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]True and false are really just a difference in opinion and neither one is truly right.[/quote]
    Amusing, but wrong.

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  51. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=bubblesdachimp]This is the episode that got me addictred to sunny[/quote]
    You’re so stupid!

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  52. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=dylanj]49ers are loving Ricky Stanzi[/quote]I suppose that’s one way to scout a prospect.

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  53. mb21

    [quote name=AndCounting]SK’s stranger conversation on recency wins the Internet. (dying laughing)[/quote]I read that first thing on here and laughed several times.

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  54. Mercurial Outfielder

    I think we need to get an online movement going for Rebecca Black to sing TMOTTBG. I smell a Twitter/FB campaign…

    It would, of course, have to be on a Friday, Friday.

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  55. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]All the partying partying would be awesome awesome.[/quote]Maybe Todd Todd could even sell some hot dogs hot dogs

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  56. AndCounting

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Maybe Todd Todd could even sell some hot dogs hot dogs[/quote]I don’t know, there are way too many seats for her to choose from.

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  57. Pudge72

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing) That last sentence is the most succinct summation of the Hendry Plan that I have ever read.

    Seriously, though, Dean, I think you’re right. There’s no coherent plan here. It’s like Hendry plays darts by grabbing all three darts and hucking them all at the board at once.[/quote]
    I’m a Cubs fan who follows the Blue Jays as my American League team…and all I can say is that Hendry sure seems to be the NL version of the thankfully departed JP Ricciardi (way to go Mets on hiring this Bozo), except that Ricciardi stated that he had a 5 year plan that only succeeded in the sense that he ended up staying employed by the Jays for 8 years with no tangible results.

    BTW, great website Obstructed View…keep up the great work!

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