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  • Projecting the 2012 Cubs: Matt Garza

    We move to the last member of the Cubs pitching staff who has a rotation spot locked down. As we all know, the should-have-been-rebuilding Cubs swapped three baseball players (and Sam Fuld) to the Rays at the beginning of last season for the getting-expensive Matt Garza. Garza went on to have a much better year than anyone expected, completely changing his pitch mix to generate more ground balls and quiet the worries that too many of his pitches would end up on Waveland. Through the first few months of the season, Garza was posting Marmol-esque strikeout rates, and ended the season striking out just a hair under a batter per inning. Unfortunately despite those crazy early season strikeout rates the opposing batters were hitting them where the Cubs weren't, or at least given the Cubs woeful defense, where they should have been. His BABIP numbers normalized as the year went on and ended at .306. I'm sure all of you want me to skip over all this stuff and list the most important stat, which is wins. Garza won only 10 wins last year, which means he's Not An Ace, even though he and Ryan Dempster tied at 10 wins. I guess they're both third starters. Garza and the Cubs settled at $9.5m before the arb hearing, probably because Garza knew that Thoyer was going to throw that win total in his agent's face. At least I think that's how it would have gone.

    Here are Garza's projections for 2012:

    Projection IP BB HBP SO HR ERA FIP
    Steamer 197 66 6 177 22 3.74 3.79
    Bill James 214 69 8 185 22 3.7 3.73
    RotoChamp 205 66 6 186 19 3.25 3.48
    Tango Marcel 179 58 5 162 17 3.62 3.52
    ZiPS 194.33 64 6 181 19 3.52 3.53
    CAIRO 178 64 6 177 21 3.66 3.77
    PECOTA 201.67 61 6 157 21 3.77 3.83
    Oliver 200 65 6 176 21 3.78 3.67
    DavMarcel 187 56 6 163 19 3.79 3.61
    Guru 173.67 57 5 155 18 3.85 3.67
    Average 192.97 62.6 6 171.9 19.9 3.67 3.67

    The projection systems like Garza to both pitch well and stay healthy. Based on these averages, Garza is slated to provide 29.43 runs above replacement, or 3.02 WAR. At a valuation of $5m per win, the Cubs are getting $5.5m of surplus value from Garza.

    The Cubs have Garza under control for one more year, his final arbitration year. There have been rumblings that they might discuss an extension with Garza, but I think Thoyer will keep him around. The new FA compensation rules kick in next offseason, and it's an easy bet that Garza will make more than the compensation threshold in free agency. Under the new CBA a team that trades for a player with an expiring contract midseason can't get the compensation picks, so if he's traded it will be this year. As Garza gets more and more expensive it will get harder and harder to pry away a player of equal value. I think those compensation picks will be much more than the Cubs will likely be able to get, though Thoyer will surely shop him around anyway in case some team catches a case of Dan Snyder.

    Previous pitcher projections

    Berselius
    He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.
    Berselius

    34 Responses to “Projecting the 2012 Cubs: Matt Garza”

    1. mb21 1 mb21 says:

      Unfortunately despite those crazy early season strikeout rates the opposing batters were hitting them where the Cubs weren’t, or at least given the Cubs woeful defense, where they should have been.

      Where all the fielders should have been except Barney who is always where he should be.

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    2. mb21 2 mb21 says:

      I don’t believe this projection. There is no way he’s giving up 19.9 home runs. I’m dismissing them entirely because of that.

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    3. Pezcore 3 Pezcore says:

      I remember reading somewhere that Marmol got better because he altered his pitch usage during starts (IIRC throwing more sliders). I’m not sure what adjustments the rest of the league has made and how that’ll affect him, or how you can statistically track such data.

      Still, It’s heartening to hear that he projects so well in 2012.

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    4. Berselius 4 Berselius says:

      Aaron Kurcz (A-ball pitcher) ———-> Red Sox, presumably the Theo Comp

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    5. mb21 5 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Pretty good numbers so far (2010 11th round pick): http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=kurcz-001aar

      139 K, 109.2 IP, 45 BB

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    6. Pezcore 6 Pezcore says:

      RotoChamp is a huge outlier here. They probably made Garza look more favorable by at least a few points

      They predict a 3.25 ERA, 205 IP, and 188 Strikeouts. If he has that season, he’ll be a bargain at 14 Million a year.

      The average prediction is 171 Strikeouts, 192 IP and 3.67 ERA.

      /stillbitterhewaswrongaboutGarza

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    7. 7 ACT says:

      So, now both Wood and Marmol have ERA’s over 15.

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    8. Berselius 8 Berselius says:

      The South Bend Silver Hawks owner just announced on twitter that they renewed their affiliation with the DBacks

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    9. mb21 10 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Wonder if they used the Cubs as leverage in some way.

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    10. GBTS 11 GBTS says:

      @ Berselius:
      That reply clearly isn’t at masturbation aficionado Velveeta Bloodfucker.

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    11. Pezcore 12 Pezcore says:

      ACT wrote:

      So, now both Wood and Marmol have ERA’s over 15.

      I knew we should have jettisoned Marmol while he had value. He’s gonna play like rotten cursed goat shit again, isn’t he?

      Precisely the reason a Garza extension makes me so nervous. It’s a risk… is the reward for a player not part of the long-term plans worth it?

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    12. Pezcore 13 Pezcore says:

      In the interest of March Madness, who else picked VCU over Wichita State in a ‘Shocker’? Sounds like such an easy pick

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    13. Berselius 14 Berselius says:

      @ Pezcore:

      I picked Wichita St. because VCU was the consensus easy pick. They’re the next Gonzaga.

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    14. Pezcore 15 Pezcore says:

      @ Berselius:

      I guess you’ll get your revenge when VCU starts getting 4 and 5 seeds and starts losing when they’re favored. I don’t think they’ll be that good. They come from a tougher conference (remember, the CAA has produced two final four teams in the last five years) and VCU never quite dominated the CAA like the Zags did the WCC. It’s difficult to remember that the WCC was low-major before Gonzaga’s rise in the mid-90s.

      Speaking of Zags (of which I am a huge fan), they obliterated West Virginia recently. Looked at the game score, that was ridiculous.

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    15. Rice Cube 16 Rice Cube says:

      Dammit UConn…

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    16. josh 17 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      I’m with GBTS. Velveeta Bloodfucker’s handle is pinkporkponk, not dangerous raincoat.

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    17. josh 18 josh says:

      Barney ———–> Strained left side in BP

      I guess best shape of his life didn’t include warmups?

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    18. SVB 20 SkipVB says:

      @ Pezcore:
      I did. Though with so many players who weren’t on the team last year, I wondered why afterward. Guess I know now. But it was dumb luck. As is any other correct pick on my part.

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    19. Suburban kid 21 Suburban kid says:

      MB, I have a 30Mbps internet service but because of WiFi and lots of interference in my house I only get the equivalent of about 8Mbps. If I didn’t use WiFi I’d get around 20Mbps.

      I just know that every time I’ve had an increase in access speed, going back to 56K dialup and earlier, I’ve been underwhelmed by the improved user experience. I know it has improved, but until all web interactions are instantaneous, or sub one second like changing channels on a TV, it will still seem slow.

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    20. mb21 22 mb21 says:

      Suburban kid wrote:

      I know it has improved, but until all web interactions are instantaneous, or sub one second like changing channels on a TV, it will still seem slow.

      At 1 Gbps things should be instantaneous.

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    21. WaLi 23 WaLi says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      But not only is your internet speed changing, the content is too. So unless you are far ahead of the curve, you aren’t going to notice much.

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    22. Suburban kid 24 Suburban kid says:

      @ WaLi:
      This is true

      Open another lane on a highway and it too will soon be full.

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    23. Suburban kid 25 Suburban kid says:

      @ mb21:
      Is that what Google will be delivering to your house? Nice.

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    24. Berselius 26 Berselius says:

      mb21 wrote:

      1 Gbps

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    25. Aisle424 27 Aisle424 says:

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    26. Suburban kid 28 Suburban kid says:

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    27. josh 29 josh says:

      @ Aisle424:
      That was amazing.

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    28. mb21 30 mb21 says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      It will be available in KC and then presumably they will continue across the country. So no, it won’t be available in my house, but I’m still excited to try it when its done in KC.

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    29. Suburban kid 31 Suburban kid says:

      Creeper looks like Bill Cosby
      (dying laughing)

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    30. Aisle424 32 Aisle424 says:

      josh wrote:

      That was amazing.

      I don’t even hear the real lyrics if I ever hear the song being played somewhere, I default to the literal ones.

      “It’s a big freakin’ watch!”

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    31. Suburban kid 33 Suburban kid says:

      I followed ST closely in past years because when there’s a chance you are going to contend to the end, you don’t want to miss any of it.

      When you expect a losing season, it doesn’t matter so much if you miss a bunch of it.

      Also, the Pope shits in the woods.

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