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  • Projecting the 2012 Cubs: Backups

    We've already published the projections for some of the backups along the way. Jeff Baker's was posted with the infield backups and the two possible back-up catchers were published in another article. Without commentary, the others are below.

    Projection Name PA H HR BB SO avg obp slg wOBA
    Guru Blake DeWitt 351 82 5 26 55 .256 .313 .376 .305
    ZiPS Blake DeWitt 430 100 8 39 68 .256 .326 .399 .319
    Dav-Marcel Blake DeWitt 33 7 1 3 5 .243 .312 .370 .309
    Steamer Blake DeWitt 0 0 0 0 0 .261 .328 .397 .329
    Average Blake DeWitt 204 47 4 17 32 .254 .320 .386 .316
                         
    CAIRO Dave Sappelt 353 88 6 25 55 .274 .326 .403 .320
    Guru Dave Sappelt 186 38 1 13 35 .228 .277 .316 .264
    PECOTA Dave Sappelt 233 61 3 12 36 .276 .312 .386 .305
    Oliver Dave Sappelt 604 151 8 34 90 .272 .313 .385 .306
    RotoChamp Dave Sappelt 128 33 0 8 18 .275 .320 .350 .297
    Dav-Marcel Dave Sappelt 71 18 1 4 10 .267 .313 .375 .307
    Steamer Dave Sappelt 117 29 2 9 17 .278 .331 .412 .334
    Marcel Dave Sappelt 259 60 4 20 43 .259 .322 .366 .310
    Average Dave Sappelt 244 60 3 16 38 .266 .314 .374 .306
                         
    Steamer Joe Mather 0 0 0 0 0 .228 .285 .362 .294
    ZiPS Joe Mather 385 82 8 27 81 .234 .290 .366 .287
    Marcel Joe Mather 248 54 5 18 50 .240 .298 .369 .291
    Average Joe Mather 317 68 7 23 66 .237 .294 .368 .289
                         
    CAIRO Reed Johnson 226 58 4 10 47 .280 .329 .423 .328
    Guru Reed Johnson 214 48 4 11 44 .247 .301 .356 .292
    PECOTA Reed Johnson 203 51 3 9 41 .265 .313 .373 .302
    Bill James Reed Johnson 281 72 4 12 65 .268 .323 .383 .299
    RotoChamp Reed Johnson 257 66 5 7 62 .264 .311 .408 .315
    Dav-Marcel Reed Johnson 32 8 1 1 7 .257 .307 .381 .302
    Steamer Reed Johnson 102 24 2 4 23 .256 .307 .377 .310
    Marcel Reed Johnson 354 87 7 16 75 .269 .319 .480 .319
    Average Reed Johnson 209 52 4 9 45 .263 .314 .397 .308
                         
    Guru Tony Campana 203 44 2 12 42 .235 .281 .296 .260
    ZiPS Tony Campana 478 123 1 27 95 .273 .317 .380 .290
    PECOTA Tony Campana 130 33 0 7 25 .265 .302 .324 .279
    Oliver Tony Campana 103 25 0 5 19 .262 .301 .317 .277
    Bill James Tony Campana 143 39 0 8 24 .289 .333 .341 .302
    RotoChamp Tony Campana 212 59 2 12 41 .295 .338 .365 .318
    Dav-Marcel Tony Campana 199 47 1 12 37 .250 .300 .298 .273
    Steamer Tony Campana 117 28 1 7 23 .261 .307 .336 .297
    Marcel Tony Campana 278 66 5 20 51 .262 .320 .357 .305
    Average Tony Campana 207 52 1 12 40 .266 .311 .335 .289

    Later on we'll use our playing time estimates and include a WAR projections, but these guys are mostly just replacement level players.

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    77 Responses to “Projecting the 2012 Cubs: Backups”

    1. mb21 1 mb21 says:

      bubblesdachimp wrote:

      I would totally trade Byrd to Atl and pick up all salary to get a good arm…

      Pretty sure the Braves aren’t going to give up a good prospect to acquire Byrd. Byrd has value, but not all that much value.

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    2. josh 2 josh says:

      So, who would you take in a Campana v. Mather contest to be on the team?

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    3. mb21 3 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      Whoever has the higher batting average the final 9 days of spring training.

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    4. josh 4 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      Maybe a low-A guy with upside?

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    5. josh 5 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      Now I can’t tell if you’re joking. Basically it doesn’t matter?

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    6. mb21 6 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      I’m not sure what level he’d be in, but I’d say a B prospect if you pay all of Byrd’s contract.

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    7. mb21 7 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      I’m definitely joking. I couldn’t care less what their batting averages are over 9 games or 162 games. I’d take Campana. About the same projection and Campana can fucking fly.

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    8. josh 8 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      Might be worth it. The Cubs can afford to eat the money.

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    9. josh 9 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      It seems like a shame to lose his speed. Mather seems more flexible on defense, but sometimes utility guys don’t play any one position particularly well.

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    10. mb21 10 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      I’d probably keep him, but it would depend on what you could get. My guess is that if Byrd had much value he’d already have been traded. He’ll likely be moving to LF or RF in June anyway.

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    11. josh 11 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      Good point. It’s possible his value increases when Nate McClouth has his annual 2-month trip to the DL.

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    12. 12 ACT says:

      Uh, how were those averages figured? Blake’s average is lower than any of his projections.

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    13. Berselius 14 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      I’d take Mather, because he can play 3B. If we’re just talking about OF it would be Campana.

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    14. josh 15 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      Kind of what I was thinking. A guy that can play 3B and the OF, assuming he can actually play centerfield as he did in the game yesterday, that could be valuable, given that his average and wOBA are rougly the same as Campana’s.

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    15. GBTS 16 GBTS says:

      @ josh:
      Who advanced further in the bunting contest?

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    16. Berselius 17 Berselius says:

      GBTS wrote:

      Who advanced further in the bunting contest?

      http://www.whoadvancedfurtherinthebuntingcontest.com

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    17. mb21 18 mb21 says:

      @ ACT:
      Thanks, ACT. I’m not sure why DeWitt’s was calculated wrong, but I did it manually and updated it. I’ll look through the others here.

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    18. mb21 20 mb21 says:

      The rest of them are right. Thanks a lot, ACT. I never would have caught that as I didn’t look over the numbers for this post.

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    19. mb21 21 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      That’s a million dollar domain idea, b.

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    20. Berselius 22 Berselius says:

      mb21 wrote:

      That’s a million dollar domain idea, b.

      Sounds like a deal to me. Just send me the million dollars and I’ll sign the rights to the name over to you.

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    21. josh 23 josh says:

      mb21 wrote:

      I never would have caught that as batting average is the bane of sabermetrics.

      \pedantic’d

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    22. mb21 24 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      I’m assuming the Cubs will have Baker and DeWitt on the roster. How many guys do you need who can play 3rd base? If you’re carrying Mather then there’s no reason to carry DeWitt.

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    23. mb21 25 mb21 says:

      Now that I think about it, the better question is who you’d rather have: Blake DeWitt or Joe Mather.

      I’d take DeWitt.

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    24. Berselius 26 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      I’d take Mather over DeWitt too, but I’m a little too fixated on the platoon advantage stuff at 1B/3B. Cubs have too many LHB in the infield.

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    25. mb21 27 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Just sent it to your paypal account.

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    26. Berselius 28 Berselius says:

      Maybe I’ll change my mind once we do the platoon split projections.

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    27. mb21 29 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Here are the CAIRO split projections: http://www.obstructedview.net/projections/platoon-splits-projections.html

      Mater wasn’t included though.

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    28. 30 AB says:

      Does anyone have any ideas of where to find out MLB team rankings for amateur draft spending year by year??

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    29. Berselius 31 Berselius says:

      Stewart’s projection vs lefties is .298, which I’m guessing Mather would beat.

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    30. mb21 32 mb21 says:

      Mather’s CAIRO projected splits

      wOBA vsL vsR
      .316 .326 .308

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    31. Berselius 33 Berselius says:

      Yeah, he beats it handily. I wonder how his defense grades out at 3b.

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    32. mb21 34 mb21 says:

      @ AB:
      All I’ve found is a top 10 list on baseball america. I’ll dig around.

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    33. mb21 36 mb21 says:

      @ AB:
      I’m not sure if you need a subscription to read that article or not. If you do, I can email you the table. Just let me know.

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    34. mb21 37 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      CAIRO was one of the more optimistic projections for Mather for what it’s worht.

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    35. mb21 38 mb21 says:

      CAIRO”s projected UZR for Mather is basically 0 at every position so that doesn’t do us much good. If he’s average at 1st base, he’s pretty bad at 3rd. Then again, if he’s average at 3rd, he’s awesome at 1st. Who knows?

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    36. Berselius 39 Berselius says:

      mb21 wrote:

      His projection above is .289, without CAIRO factored in. With the platooning boost that should put him ahead of Stewart, though not by that much.

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    37. mb21 40 mb21 says:

      Berselius wrote:

      His projection above is .289, without CAIRO factored in.

      Yeah, I wasn’t going to go back through the projections and look for Joe Mather’s projections. I just added the one I had and the two Fangraphs had. Good enough for me for someone like Mather. (dying laughing)

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    38. Berselius 41 Berselius says:

      Shawn Camp ——–> Cubs, minor league deal. Was recently released by Seattle

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    39. mb21 42 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      In 9.2 September innings he allowed just 4 hits and a .93 ERA. He also won 5 games.

      Shawn Camp ——–> rotation

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    40. mb21 43 mb21 says:

      Batters only had a .457 OPS against him in September so he should probably start opening day. Cubs best vs the Nats best. Game of the century.

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    41. 44 AB says:

      thanks

      no problems accessing it

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    42. mb21 45 mb21 says:

      @ AB:
      I’m wondering what you had in mind with the data.

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    43. bubblesdachimp 46 bubblesdachimp says:

      Frank martin ===> Gamecocks

      Bubbles====> Happy

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    44. josh 47 josh says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      No one else =====> Cares

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    45. Berselius 48 Berselius says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:

      I told my main bitch. She was unimpressed.

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    46. bubblesdachimp 49 bubblesdachimp says:

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    47. GBTS 50 GBTS says:

      [spoiler title="Cubs Bench"]Crappy white guys.[/spoiler]

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    48. Berselius 51 Berselius says:

      @ GBTS:

      [spoiler title="Re: Cubs bench"]Scrappy white guys[/spoiler]

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    49. 52 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GBTS:
      [spoiler]Dave Sappelt isn’t white. Still crappy, though.[/spoiler]

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    50. Berselius 53 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      [spoiler]Dave Sappelt isn’t going to make the roster[/spoiler]

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    51. 54 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      [spoiler]That’s racist.[/spoiler]

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    52. SVB 56 SkipVB says:

      @ mb21:
      Campana is so fast he can pinch run for Soto and Lehair in the same inning, TOOTBLAN for both, and be in the dugout before Hunter Wendlestadt can say “what happened?”

      /game pace quickened

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    53. SVB 57 SkipVB says:

      This is my first time looking at OV on my phone and it’s funny that the content resizes better after I’ve signed in. Also the helper buttons for text format are here and don’t show up on my laptop.

      Looks good though. Nice work.

      Maybe the sizing issues are bc I’m on a Blackberry. (Let antique smartphone jokes commence now.)

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    54. WaLi 58 WaLi says:

      @ SkipVB:
      If you use IE then you don’t get format helper boxes. mb hates IE more than he hates AVG (dying laughing)

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    55. Mish 59 Mish says:

      P@ WaLi:
      It’s the Joe Morgan (announcer) of web browsers.

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    56. SVB 60 SkipVB says:

      @ WaLi:

      Wow. He must REALLY hate IE. I use Firefox.

      @ Mish:
      I think you’re being a tad unfair to Joe Morgan. (Dying laughing)

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    57. SVB 61 SkipVB says:

      @ WaLi:

      Wow. He must REALLY hate IE. I use Firefox.

      @ Mish:

      I think you’re being a tad unfair to Joe Morgan. (Dying laughing)

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    58. SVB 62 SkipVB says:

      @ WaLi:

      Wow. He must REALLY hate IE. I use Firefox.

      Mish-
      I think you’re being a tad unfair to Joe Morgan. (Dying laughing)

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    59. SVB 63 SkipVB says:

      Wow. He must REALLY hate IE. I use Firefox.

      Mish-
      I think you’re being a tad unfair to Joe Morgan. (Dying laughing)

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    60. SVB 64 SkipVB says:

      @ WaLi:

      Wow. He must REALLY hate IE. I use Firefox.

      Mish-
      I think you’re being a tad unfair to Joe Morgan.
      (Dying laughing)

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    61. SVB 65 SkipVB says:

      @ WaLi:

      Wow. He must REALLY hate IE. I use Firefox.

      Mish
      I think you’re being a tad unfair to Joe Morgan.
      (Dying laughing)

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    62. Berselius 67 Berselius says:

      Trever Miller ——–> released

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    63. mb21 69 mb21 says:

      @ SkipVB:
      Do you have javascript enabled? I can’t think of any other reason why the comment buttons (b, i, link, img, quote) wouldn’t show up in Firefox. I have no idea what’s up with IE, but by the time we figured it out IE would change some shit and it wouldn’t work.

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    64. mb21 70 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      That sucks. I was hoping we’d see a rotation of Casey Coleman, James Russell, Shawn Camp, F7 and Scott Maine.

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    65. Berselius 71 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      I’m not sure how that changes your expectations.

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    66. mb21 72 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      I think F7 would still be the 4th starter.

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    67. 73 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      We should start a “How Long Will JefF7 Be A SP?” pool. Winner gets a bottle of Cookie’s.

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    68. 74 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      89.3% of the comments on this blog are summed up in this image:

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    69. Berselius 75 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      Lwaxana Troi?

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    70. 76 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:

      Not objectively hot.

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