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  • OV Contest mid-season update

    At the beginning of the season we started an over/under contest that would take wouldn't reveal a winner until the end of the season.  People chose whether a player would end the season over or under his projections. Under was a bit confusing for pitchers and I made that clear in the post. If you thought the pitcher was going to do better than a 3.5 FIP you chose under. Anyway, we're halfway through the season at this point. Well not yet. In two more games they are. Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see if anyone has jumped out to a big enough lead.

    I just doubled each player's playing time and WAR (average of fWAR and rWAR). If you got it right so far, one point for you. Otherwise it's none. These can still change. Some of the players have performed right along the lines of what we would have expected. I have not yet included Anthony Rizzo or Brett Jackson since we didn't expect them to get much playing time by this point. I threw out Kerry Wood's since he retired. At the end of the season Jackson and Rizzo will be included whether they play all that much or not, but Wood will be thrown out. 

    Username Total
    berselius 28
    Snyds01 28
    Tommy (TC) 26
    Mark Ammer 26
    shawndgoldman 26
    ACT 24
    mb21 23
    SkipVB 23
    Mercurial Outfielder 22
    cwolf 22
    WaLi 21
    DamageControlFreak 21
    josh 20
    koboldekobold 20
    WenningtonsGorillaCock 20
    Suburban Kid 20
    adnielsen 20
    GW 19
    AndCounting 19
    Rice Cube 18
    Corms 18
    João Lucas Pimenta Pinto 14

    berselius, mb21 and AndCounting are highlighed because they are ineligible to win. 

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    125 Responses to “OV Contest mid-season update”

    1. Mish 1 Mish says:

      Oh yes I remember being too lazy to do this.

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    2. josh 2 josh says:

      How did my super optimistic projections net me 20 points? Have the Cubs actually done better than expected? That certainly can’t be right. Maybe I wasn’t optimistic enough.

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    3. Rice Cube 3 Rice Cube says:

      I’m guessing that my score reflects the fact that I was too optimistic.

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    4. mb21 4 mb21 says:

      I think the scores are mostly just luck. There were 3 categories for each player. I’m guessing a lot of people made some of their choices based on previous choices for that player. I figured Maholm wouldn’t reach his projected innings pitched in part because of an injury or ineffectiveness. So I also figured he’d be worse than his projected FIP and since I had both as lower I also figured his WAR would be. For Soto I figured he’d have fewer PA, but a higher wOBA and a higher WAR. So sometimes if you get one wrong you end up getting them all wrong. It’s really just luck, but I liked the idea that GW had and it’s something I think we’ll do each year. I might try to simplify it so more people take part in it. I might give people the option to pass on certain players too. I don’t know, but I’m going to play around with it before next year.

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    5. Rice Cube 7 Rice Cube says:

      Andy Griffith died :(

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    6. Suburban kid 8 Suburban kid says:

      @ Mish:
      I’m shocked to see myself listed up there, given my own profound laziness.

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    7. Mish 9 Mish says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      I usually un-latino-ify myself and end up doing these things, though.

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    8. WaLi 10 WaLi says:

      I’m mediocre!

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    9. Berselius 11 Berselius says:

      Good Chris Carpenter ———> could be shut down again, have another surgery

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    10. WaLi 12 WaLi says:

      @ Mish:
      You were probably too busy fighting crime and saving puppies

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    11. Mish 13 Mish says:

      @ WaLi:
      Probably?!

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    12. Rice Cube 14 Rice Cube says:

      Has anyone bothered to watch the new Spider-Man movie yet before Mish rampages through theaters in a couple weeks?

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    13. josh 15 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I haven’t gone to a movie in over a year. Will actually probably take a day off work to see TDK Rises.

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    14. Mish 16 Mish says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      (dying laughing)
      I have a five day weekend starting in 1:15, so at some point I might indulge in Spider-Man, though I have nothing set up yet. I could also catch it before I watch TDKR at midnight in a few weeks, but I’d rather use that pre-show time to put my my mind in the right state, if you catch my drift.

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    15. Rice Cube 17 Rice Cube says:

      josh wrote:

      I haven’t gone to a movie in over a year. Will actually probably take a day off work to see Mish Rises.

      I will probably wait for the opening weekend crowds to die down before I take the family to a matinee. We’re a bunch of nerds.

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    16. josh 18 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Me too. The day off work is so the kid will be at daycare, so we can, you know, actually watch the movie.

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    17. Rice Cube 19 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      Bane is not an especially cuddly personality for an infant.

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    18. josh 20 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      True. Plus, unless it’s Yo Gabba Gabba onscreen, he gets bored after about 5 minutes.

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    19. WaLi 22 WaLi says:

      @ josh:
      I wish I didn’t google “Yo Gabba Gabba”

      Poor kid.

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    20. josh 23 josh says:

      @ WaLi:
      It is by far — BY FAR — the most tolerable kids show I’ve seen.

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    21. bubblesdachimp 24 bubblesdachimp says:

      Just opened my twitter and the first headline i saw was “The history of the batmobile” Didnt have to even look who retweeted it

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    22. Rice Cube 25 Rice Cube says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Cool story, bro…

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    23. TheVan 26 TheVan says:

      josh wrote:

      @ WaLi:
      It is by far — BY FAR — the most tolerable kids show I’ve seen.

      False…just a bad statement all around. You need a larger sample size.

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    24. Mish 27 Mish says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      It’s not who I am underneath, but what I retweet, that defines me.

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    25. josh 28 josh says:

      @ TheVan:
      I didn’t say “in existence” or “ever made.” I said “I’ve seen,” and I stand by it. If you have suggestions, I’m open to them.

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    26. TheVan 29 TheVan says:

      josh wrote:

      @ TheVan:
      I didn’t say “in existence” or “ever made.” I said “I’ve seen,” and I stand by it. If you have suggestions, I’m open to them.

      Metalacolypse, Archer, Squidbillies…to name a few. They’re animated so they count as children’s shows. Also, I’m a horrible parent.

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    27. josh 30 josh says:

      @ TheVan:
      Kid’s not a big cartoon fan. I think he just likes the familiarity, and the fact that he knows the character’s names. He also likes when it’s time to dance.

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    28. josh 31 josh says:

      @ TheVan:
      I was trying to get him to watch me play L.A. Noire yesterday. After about 5 minutes he started slapping hte keyboard and yelling.

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    29. TheVan 32 TheVan says:

      My kids are at a fun age where they like to watch the Cubs, but they’re too young to understand that the Cubs suck, but old enough to read the scoreboard and know they’re losing. It’s a very confusing time in my household.

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    30. josh 33 josh says:

      @ TheVan:
      My son in the last week just starting pointing at the screen when I’m watching the Cubs or clips and saying “bee ball?” It begins.

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    31. BubbaBiscuit 34 BubbaBiscuit says:

      @ TheVan:
      Squidbillies will certainly get some good ole learning in them their youngins, for sure. Early’s hats combine to form the encyclopedia of all knowledge needed for red blooded Americans.

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    32. josh 36 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      Ugh. That show is soooo boring. They just stare at you. I hate Dora so much.

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    33. Rizzo the Rat 37 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Now that’s just weird. I was thinking about him earlier today, and it’s not as though I think about him every day.

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    34. Rizzo the Rat 38 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Getting back to an earlier discussion I wasn’t around for: I wonder whether Samardzija’s reliance on his splitter as his out pitch may have something to do with why he’s been so inconsistent. That is, he’s only as good as his splitter on a given day. Somebody less lazy than myself needs to research that question.

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    35. Rizzo the Rat 39 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Billy Hamilton now has 100 stolen bases.

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    36. Aisle424 40 Aisle424 says:

      Rizzo the Rat wrote:

      Billy Hamilton now has 100 stolen bases.

      Not today. That’d be a record.

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    37. mb21 41 mb21 says:

      @ Aisle424:
      (dying laughing)

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    38. mb21 42 mb21 says:

      Don’t know what the SB record is in the minor leagues, but I’m pretty sure Hamilton is going to beat it.

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    39. mb21 43 mb21 says:

      Hamilton has reached base 154 times. 17 of those were doubles, 9 triples and a home run. Those are insane stolen base numbers.

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    40. 44 mobile skip says:

      @ josh:
      If the kid is at day care, shouldn’t you go hike the Appalachian Trail instead of go to a movie?

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    41. josh 45 josh says:

      @ mobile skip:
      I don’t think I can reach the Appalachian Trail and hike it in a day starting from Illinois. If you’re generally questioning whether I get outside enough, rest assured I spend as much time outside as I can. That’s part of why I do insect photography. I try to get to a park once a week and spend my lunch hours outside hunting for bugs (when I’m not on old with the IRS, that is).

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    42. Rizzo the Rat 46 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ mb21:
      Yeah, unfortunately minor league record-keeping hasn’t always been very good. Vince Coleman stole 145 in 1983 (Class A Macon), which is the most at any level since 1962. http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2012/06/for-the-record-single-season-stolen-base-leaders-for-every-minor-league/

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    43. josh 47 josh says:

      @ mobile skip:
      Por ejemplo, a lacewing I photographed yesterday:

      Lacewing

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    44. mb21 48 mb21 says:

      So there’s a good chance he’ll set the record that we know of.

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    45. josh 49 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      Never heard of this guy.

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    46. Rice Cube 50 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      @ mb21:
      Go lacewing!

      /non sequitur’d

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    47. Rizzo the Rat 51 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ josh:
      He’s in the Reds system (high A). He’s considered the fastest guy in baseball at any level. http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hamilt002bil

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    48. Rizzo the Rat 52 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Also, a HOF outfielder from the 19th century: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamilbi01.shtml
      I think it would be a great idea to pass down the “Sliding Billy” nickname to the newer model. (Assuming the younger Billy needs to slide. From what I’ve heard, he’s probably fast enough to steal bases against A-level catchers standing up.)

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    49. josh 53 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      AND he can get on base? Is that allowed? Did anyone tell Tony?

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    50. Rizzo the Rat 54 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ josh:
      Both Tony and Billy have a career MiLB OBP of .358, FWIW.

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    51. 55 mobile skip says:

      @ josh:
      Ah, I think you missed the reference, but former SC Gov Mark Sanford can give you pointers on how to hike the AT from 1000s of miles away.

      Cool pic

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    52. 56 mobile skip says:

      Proof that performance in this contest is luck as MB says: MB – 23; Skip 23.

      I should have far less.

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    53. mb21 57 mb21 says:

      I’m glad Chipper is in the all-star game in his final season.

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    54. Rizzo the Rat 58 Rizzo the Rat says:

      A depiction of how I would prevent B. Hamilton from seizing second base.lockerz.com/s/222054580— Old Hoss Radbourn (@OldHossRadbourn) July 3, 2012

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    55. Mish 59 Mish says:

      @ mb21:
      Agreed. I’ve enjoyed watching him hit.

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    56. mb21 60 mb21 says:

      any word on a start time?

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    57. GBTS 61 GBTS says:

      mb21 wrote:

      Hamilton has reached base 154 times. 17 of those were doubles, 9 triples and a home run. Those are insane stolen base numbers.

      None of those balls left the infield, either.

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    58. mb21 62 mb21 says:

      @ Mish:
      He’s been one of my favorites for awhile. I was watching the Braves a lot when he was establishing himself. Great player

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    59. GBTS 63 GBTS says:

      Mets announcer just called RBIs “ribeye steaks.”

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    60. Rizzo the Rat 64 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ mb21:

      1st pitch sked for 8 pm ET. #Cubs #Braves— Carrie Muskat (@CarrieMuskat) July 3, 2012

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    61. bubblesdachimp 65 bubblesdachimp says:

      linccecum is done. getting hselled by the nats

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    62. Rizzo the Rat 66 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Well, so much for Big Time Timmy being back on track.

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    63. bubblesdachimp 67 bubblesdachimp says:

      Its just hanging breaking ball after hanger.. Bizarre

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    64. Rizzo the Rat 68 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Wow. Brewers and Marlins tied at 11. Brewers blew a 6-run lead in the 8th.

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    65. bubblesdachimp 69 bubblesdachimp says:

      just got away with another hanger. Everything is up for him

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    66. Rice Cube 70 Rice Cube says:

      So, this Rizzo guy…

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    67. bubblesdachimp 71 bubblesdachimp says:

      I really like Rizzo

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    68. bubblesdachimp 72 bubblesdachimp says:

      Vitters BB in first at bat. Now hitting over .300 also

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    69. bubblesdachimp 73 bubblesdachimp says:

      I have a feeling if Castro does that play brenly rips him

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    70. Rizzo the Rat 74 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Aramis just hit a 2-run come-from-behind walk-off home run against Heath Bell in the bottom of the 10th. Aramis’ WPA on the day: .991

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    71. bubblesdachimp 75 bubblesdachimp says:

      cue yakety sax

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    72. Rice Cube 77 Rice Cube says:

      Alfonso Soriano stole a base.

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    73. 78 Chet Masterson says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:

      It’s nice that Aramis and Cesar Izturis could be reunited for a postgame walkoff. Too bad the camera cut away from their hug today before we got to see a replay of this

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    74. Rice Cube 79 Rice Cube says:

      Volstad —> one bad inning as usual

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    75. josh 80 josh says:

      @ mobile skip:
      Gotcha. Totally missed that.

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    76. josh 81 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Aramis is having a pretty good year.

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    77. josh 82 josh says:

      Guys, don’t worry. Dolis is pitching.

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    78. bubblesdachimp 83 bubblesdachimp says:

      Dolis needs to go down

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    79. Rizzo the Rat 84 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Surprisingly, Dolis had trouble throwing his sinker for strikes.

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    80. Rizzo the Rat 85 Rizzo the Rat says:

      I haven’t even heard of the current pitcher.

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    81. josh 86 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      I think he pitched once before. Picked him up on a minor league deal, I believe.

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    82. Rizzo the Rat 87 Rizzo the Rat says:

      josh wrote:

      Picked him up on a minor league deal, I believe.

      Isn’t a contract with the Cubs a minor league deal by definition?

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    83. bubblesdachimp 89 bubblesdachimp says:

      i would like an official timer on this half inning.. I have over 20 minutes

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    84. josh 90 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Correct. But I guess it was a waiver claim.

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    85. bubblesdachimp 91 bubblesdachimp says:

      Cashner hurt :(

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    86. josh 92 josh says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Aw yeah! trade win!

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    87. Rice Cube 93 Rice Cube says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Already?!

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    88. josh 94 josh says:

      I hated Chipper when I was a kid. He always did well against the Cubs. Now I know he was just a good player. I was very passionate as a boy.

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    89. josh 96 josh says:

      You know, my softball game was 10-3 going into the bottom of the 7th and we got over confident and allowed them to score 3. Just saying it was closer than we thought it would be. The other team totally made a comeback and we were way better.

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    90. josh 97 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I mean, injury history was the main reason the Cubs let him go, right? Of course, the same can be said for The Rockies and Ian Stewart.

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    91. Rizzo the Rat 98 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Not surprised. I thought re-converting him to a starter was a terrible idea.

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    92. Rizzo the Rat 99 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ josh:
      Well, that and Hoyer’s long-standing man-crush on Rizzo.

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    93. josh 100 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      I’m kinda agreeing with him. Although, obviously, I’m just waiting for him to have an a slump so I can say they called him up to early and the kid has already shown he doesn’t have what it takes.

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    94. josh 101 josh says:

      Holy crapstore begonias! How do the damn White Sox have 19 runs!??!

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    95. GW 102 GW says:

      apparently it’s just a lat strain

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    96. Rice Cube 103 Rice Cube says:

      So Tyler Colvin has the winning homer today if the score holds.

      I guess the Cubs lost that trade in a way.

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    97. josh 104 josh says:

      Finally: I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Orioles’ struggles have coincided with Adam Jones slowing down.

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    98. Rizzo the Rat 105 Rizzo the Rat says:

      It’s really weird to have the Phils at 10 games below .500. I know they’re old and injured and all that, but just last year they won over 100 games, for God’s sake.

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    99. GBTS 106 GBTS says:

      I was going to go on YouTube to look for Trevor Bauer videos, but I just ended up watching Jack Bauer stuff for 40 minutes.

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    100. josh 107 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      That’s really surprising. Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay have been shakey, haven’t they? It’s mind boggling. I think everyone assumed that their first month struggles would quickly turn around, but they haven’t. Maybe they’ll make up ground in the second half. When do they play the Cubs? That should get them going.

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    101. Rice Cube 108 Rice Cube says:

      Something’s happening in Seattle through five.

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    102. josh 109 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      It’d have to be the combined kind of nothing much, if nothing much happened.

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    103. Rice Cube 110 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      The dude’s been fairly economical so it may be a solo something/nothing much.

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    104. josh 111 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      He’s already been taken out.

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    105. Rice Cube 112 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      How disappointing, but ’tis best to err on the side of caution.

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    106. Rizzo the Rat 113 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ josh:
      What? Chen’s still pitching.

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    107. Rizzo the Rat 114 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Perfect game, no-hitter, and shutout all lost on 1 pitch.

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    108. Rice Cube 115 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Not for much longer (dying laughing)

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    109. josh 116 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      I was looking at the box score all upside down. I blame the amazing beer I’m drinking.

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    110. josh 117 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      It seems to go that way a lot of the times. Guy starts thinking about it too much, challenges him with a fastball down the middle. Bang.

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    111. josh 118 josh says:

      Justin Smoak. That dude hasn’t worked out at all.

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    112. GW 119 GW says:

      @ GBTS:

      i was secretly hoping trevor would wear #24.

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    113. Berselius 120 Berselius says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      So Tyler Colvin has the winning homer today if the score holds.

      I guess the Cubs lost that trade in a way.

      It’s certainly not looking great for the Cubs, but it was a fine gamble by Thoyer. FWIW Colvin’s projection still sits at .258/.297/.476, a .328 wOBA. That’s a lot higher than I would have thought but it probably also has Coors taken into account. Colvin has power, but the rest of his numbers are buoyed by a .363 BABIP

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    114. 121 Berselius22 says:

      Holy balls, the White Sox obliterated the Rangers last night

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    115. Berselius 122 Berselius says:

      We got a search engine hit on “Jack Daniels Honey gross”

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    116. Suburban kid 123 Suburban kid says:

      @ Berselius:
      I remember posting some stupid comment that included the words Jack Daniels, so you’re welcome.

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    117. josh 124 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      That stuff is pretty gross.

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