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  • Assume the Position: Catcher

    We are getting very close to catchers and pitchers reporting. We might have one or two moves of significance until that point, but I'm going to assume that our team is essentially what we have in front of us. That being said, I'm going to take a broad look at every position to seem what we have there, both now and going forward. First up are the catchers.

          Last Year 2013   Career
      Name Age AVG OBP SLG wOBA BJwOBA   AVG OBP SLG wOBA
    MLB Castillo 26 0.265 0.337 0.418 0.327 0.325   0.261 0.326 0.424 0.325
      Clevenger 27 0.201 0.260 0.276 0.242 0.246   0.202 0.264 0.281 0.246
    AAA Navarro 29 0.319 0.382 0.449 0.371 0.293   0.245 0.306 0.357 0.293
      Apodaca 25 0.280 0.387 0.371 0.350            
      Esposito 33 0.225 0.268 0.275 0.250            
    AA Brenly 25 0.227 0.295 0.342 0.297            
      Flores 25 0.167 0.322 0.250 0.289            
    A+ Gibbs 23 0.200 0.338 0.297 0.312            
      Lopez 24 0.269 0.338 0.403 0.343            
    A Krist 22 0.253 0.324 0.447 0.346            
      Burruel 20 0.250 0.314 0.297 0.290            
    A- Contreras 20 0.273 0.316 0.357 0.318            
      Rymel 22 0.188 0.246 0.344 0.279            
      Escobar 21 0.235 0.355 0.412 0.362            
    Rk Marra 19 0.322 0.457 0.467 0.434            
      Mineo 17 0.100 0.182 0.100 0.156            

    The MLB average wOBA for a catcher last year was .312.

    MLB

    Beef Castle is the definite starter next year. He's projected by BJ to have a wOBA of .318. I like him a pretty good deal: his minor league numbers indicate that he is ascending, he improved over the course of the season, and his defensive game-calling abilities are vastly underrated and overreported. Not an area of concern. Steve Clevenger's projection seems incredibly optimistic. I'm not sure I expect an wOBA above .285-.290. If he does reach .310, he becomes a very useful backup/utility guy; it's also the only he stays on the roster. Some people believe he played all of 2012 hurt, but that's either false or stupid (take your pick). Dioner Navarro is 5 years removed from being useful. He's the de facto backup, though he can't hit and can barely field so who knows how long it'll be until he's usurped by Clevenger or someone else.

    AAA

    Juan Apodaca is a 26-year old journeyman who put up very nice numbers in AAA last year. He's been with 4 organizations and never reached the bigs. I don't understand why: he's not old, he's walked at every level, and the very few scouting reports I've seen on him indicate he's not terrible behind the plate. He's got low power, but that's no game breaker: he maybe deserves a backup role somewhere but it won't be with the Cubs – they released him last year (he's with the Rangers now). I include him only because he was the primary AAA guy this year: the other guy (that wasn't Castillo) was the abortive Brian Esposito. I haven't seen his release notice on mlbtr so I assume he's still with the club: he's 33 and can't hack it at AAA. Blake Lalli was also booted. The Cubs had 4 primary catchers on the AAA roster last year and none of them will be back.

    AA

    Michael Brenly is the "favorite" to break camp with the AAA squad (if Clevenger isn't waived, clears, and accepts). He is the son of Bob Brenly, which is the only reason he was drafted. Since then, he's been an unspectacular, slow-moving catcher. I have no reason to believe he'll ever contribute at the MLB level. Luis Flores put up a .572 OPS as a 25 year backup in AA last year. 

    A+

    Micah Gibbs might be a backup one day, maybe? He walks and he's not particularly old for his level (I mean, he's not a prospect level, but he's not completely worthless yet). He's got no power and for a 3rd rounder has disappointed. Se la vie…Chad Noble was so bad last year that I couldn't even include him on this list. Rafael Lopez is too old for this level, but has been a solid performer so far. Catchers as a rule get a longer age-leash in the minors, so the book isn't entirely closed on him. He's got mediocre gap power, which for a catcher is pretty good.

    A

    Yaniel Cabezas had an OPS under .550 and thus didn't qualify for my list, because he isn't a baseball player. Sergio Burruel has youth on his side, but he's been in the organization for 4 years and has never slugged above his OBP. Chadd Krist inexplicably sounds like the name of a porn star to me. He had a very nice season in 2012 and should start the year as the A starter, or maybe the A+ co-starter.

    A-

    Wilson Contreras is young and adequate at Boise this year. He also had a 47% CS last year, which is probably unsustainable. He's been in the organization for 4 years and has always been average to middling with the bat, but that's no dealbreaker at all. Lance Rymel was a 28th round draft pick in the 2012 draft and got embarrassed in his 25 games. His BABIP was under .200 so he's a fair bet to look better next year, but he has some definite work to do if he wants to stick around. Carlos Escobar is another 2012 draftee (15th), and he acquitted himself quite well. He'll be 22 next year, and should grab the bulk of the starts for the club next year if not promoted to A outright.

    Rk

    Justin Marra is become Youkilis, destroyer of pitchers with poor control. He got a late start to his career after being drafted in 2011, but embarrassed the rookie league much like Vogelbach did (albeit in a much different way). He had a .397 BABIP, so he's a serious regression candidate (as is the fact that he very likely just took the walks given to him), but you couldn't ask much more from a guy in his first taste of baseball. Hits doubles, and walks, what's not to like? Alberto Mineo is 17 and has 62 career PA. I'd be lying if I told you I knew anything about him. 

    I'm not going to do FRk, because it's so far from my periphery.

    The Cubs don't have any real breakout candidates anywhere near ready to hit the majors. Depending on how you feel about Clevenger, you might not even have great depth at the major league level. I think that there are a few fringey-prospects in the deep minors (Marra, Escobar, Contreras) but absolutely no one that I'd feel projecting to ever start for the Cubs in the next 4-5 years. 

    Projected Rosters

    MLB: Castillo/Navarro/Clevenger

    AAA: NRI/Brenly/Esposito

    AA: Gibbs/Flores/Lopez

    A+: Lopez/Krist

    A: Escobar/Burruel/(Cabezas?)

    A-: Contreras/Marra/Rymel

    Rk: Mineo/?

     

    Myles
    It's like, how much more black can this be? And the answer is none...none more black.
    Myles
    Myles

    48 Responses to “Assume the Position: Catcher”

    1. Rice Cube 3 Rice Cube says:

      @ Berselius:
      My gawd.

      Canada is the Matrix.

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    2. GBTS 4 GBTS says:

      Assume the Position

      Don’t tell me what to do.

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    3. GBTS 6 GBTS says:

      In all seriousness, really looking forward to this series.

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    4. dmick89 7 dmick89 says:

      Am I the only who has paid zero attention to this whole Sammy stuff?

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    5. dmick89 8 dmick89 says:

      I’m still really confused by the Navarro signing. The guy is horrible and the Cubs actually paid him above him replacement level.

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    6. JonKneeV 9 JonKneeV says:

      Is Malave still a catcher? He’s out of the DR.

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    7. dmick89 10 dmick89 says:

      I knew the Cubs didn’t have much strength behind the plate, but wow, this is awful.

      I’m still not convinced that Castillo will be very good either. I really wish Soto would have been more consistently good. Oh well.

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    8. Rice Cube 11 Rice Cube says:

      @ dmick89:
      It’s probably not for everyone, but I liked what he had to say in the ten minute session.

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    9. Mucker 12 Mucker says:

      @ dmick89:
      Maybe they want to flip him for Nolasco?

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    10. Berselius 13 Berselius says:

      dmick89 wrote:

      I knew the Cubs didn’t have much strength behind the plate, but wow, this is awful.

      It looks bad, but I don’t really know a baseline to compare it with as far as other systems go. It’s a scarce position.

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    11. Berselius 14 Berselius says:

      Also, Bill James sure hates Clevenger (dying laughing)

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    12. dmick89 15 dmick89 says:

      @ Berselius:
      good point.

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    13. 16 AB says:

      The Cubs cut Luis Flores, I think shortly after his PED suspension was over.

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    14. Suburban kid 17 Suburban kid says:

      Did Sammy make that up about the Cubs discussing retiring his number at the convention?

      Also, his secretary must be really fast at deleting nasty FB comments.

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    15. Rice Cube 18 Rice Cube says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      It was an actual question posed to the Ricketts, and Tom said it would be under consideration in the future.

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    16. Rice Cube 19 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Or I guess to be more exact, they kinda ducked the retired number question and said they’d consider welcoming Sosa back to the Cubs later on.

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    17. Rizzo the Rat 20 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ Berselius:
      Since his defense of Joe Paterno, I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

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    18. Suburban kid 21 Suburban kid says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Bill James defended Paterno? Wasn’t that Joe Poz?

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    19. Rizzo the Rat 22 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/14/bill-james-doubles-down-on-the-joe-paterno-defense/
      Or you could just type “Bill James Paterno” or something similar in Google.

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    20. Suburban kid 23 Suburban kid says:

      Rizzo the Rat wrote:

      Or you could just type “Bill James Paterno” or something similar in Google.

      Don’t tell me what

      OK

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    21. 24 Edwin says:

      Since Sosa left the Cubs, the number 21 has been worn by:

      Jason Marquis
      Milton Bradley
      Tyle Colvin
      Luis Valbuena
      Joe Mather

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    22. josh 25 josh says:

      I don’t have time to read the article or the comments right this minute, I just wanted to say: Awesome title.

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    23. EnricoPallazzo 26 EnricoPallazzo says:

      @ Edwin:
      i see your point.
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      your point is that they can’t retire sosa’s number because they will be retiring #21 for luis valbuena, right?

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    24. Rice Cube 27 Rice Cube says:

      @ Edwin:
      This annoys me.

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    25. Rice Cube 28 Rice Cube says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      This made me (dying laughing)

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    26. Rice Cube 29 Rice Cube says:

      Just for kicks…

      Sammy Sosa = 54.8 rWAR

      Marquis = 3.5 rWAR
      MB = 14.9 rWAR
      Colvin = 1.9 rWAR
      Valbuena (who I didn’t even think wore 21) = 0.4 rWAR
      Super Joe = -2.4 rWAR

      Sammy Sosa was almost three times more valuable than everyone who wore his number after he left…combined.

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    27. dmick89 30 dmick89 says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      (dying laughing)

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    28. 31 Edwin says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:

      No. They should totally retire Sosa’s number because he’s probably one of the greatest Cubs ever, certainly of the modern era. I’m sure if the Cubs want to retire Valbuena’s number they’ll have him switch to a different number first, and retire that one.

      I just find it interesting to see who else has worn #21 for the Cubs. So far, it hasn’t gone well for anyone after Sosa.

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    29. Rice Cube 32 Rice Cube says:

      @ Edwin:
      They give that number away like it was a promotional item.

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    30. Rizzo the Rat 33 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Sosa had 55.9 rWAR as a Cub. (That’s right; he was sub-replacement when not wearing Cubbie blue.)

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    31. Rice Cube 34 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Cubbie blue must be magic.

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    32. Rizzo the Rat 35 Rizzo the Rat says:

      That said, I honestly don’t care whether they retire Sosa’s number or not. I want the team to make sound business/baseball decisions, and don’t really care about anything else. (Would retiring Sosa’s number be good for business? I honestly don’t know and am not in a good position to judge.)

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    33. Rizzo the Rat 36 Rizzo the Rat says:

      There I go getting carried away with parentheses (again).

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    34. Rice Cube 37 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      To be honest it’d probably piss a lot of people off and the meatheads would likely stop going to games as a form of protest, but I don’t know how much.

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    35. Rice Cube 38 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      You’re the Al Yellon of parentheses.

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    36. Rizzo the Rat 39 Rizzo the Rat says:

      One final thing: I don’t get why anyone makes a fuss over people using Sosa’s (or any great player’s) former number. There is no tradition of withholding a player’s number from circulation until it is retired, at least not for the Cubs, who gave Ron Santo’s and Fergie Jenkins’ numbers to other players before retiring them (which was decades after the players themselves retired). Even if you think retiring Sammy’s number is an issue of great importance, I don’t see why you would get upset about what they do with his number before it’s retired.

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    37. Aisle424 40 Aisle424 says:

      Scott Hairston ——> Cubs (per Rosenthal) 2 year deal.

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    38. GW 41 GW says:

      @ Aisle424:

      bummer. one of the reasons I was still holding out hope for upton was that they hadn’t signed hairston.

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    39. josh 42 josh says:

      @ GW:
      Hope? You’re not buying that line again, are you?

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    40. Aisle424 43 Aisle424 says:

      Aisle424 wrote:

      Scott Hairston ——> Cubs (per Rosenthal) 2 year deal.

      He can earn up to $6 million over the 2 years with incentives.

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    41. GW 44 GW says:

      @ josh:

      just didn’t make sense that they would go with soriano/dejesus/schierholtz/sappelt/campana while doing everything they can to dump soriano when a cheap righty outfielder with some pop was out there. signing hairston completely fits their MO for the last two years. that it hadn’t happened yet combined with the fact that they are sitting on a 7 man rotation in which feldman is guaranteed a spot made me think that something was in the works.

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    42. GBTS 45 GBTS says:

      I definitely have been confusing Scott Hairston with Jerry Hairston for like 3 days. (dying laughing)

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    43. GBTS 46 GBTS says:

      Mets fans seem perturbed on Twitter by this.

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    44. uncle dave 47 uncle dave says:

      @ GBTS:
      I tend to confuse him with Jerry Harrison, but then again, I listen to the Talking Heads quite a bit.

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