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  • Series preview: San Francisco Giants (94-68) vs Cincinnati Reds (97-65)

    The Reds jockeyed with several other NL Central teams (including the Pirates!) for the divisional lead for the first half of the season, but after July 19 they moved into first place and never looked back. The closest they got to losing the lead was on August 9th, after NL MVP Shawn Camp exerted his powers and defeated the Reds to bring their lead down to 2.5 games. After that the Reds went on a five game winning streak and were never less than six games up the rest of the year.

    The Giants basically had one opponent this year in their longtime rivals the Dodgers. The Dodgers got off to a strong start to the year, and the Giants were 7.5 games back in late May. Tim Lincecum lost whatever it was that made him Tim Lincecum, but Matt Cain threw a perfect game in mid-June in a run that led to the Giants tying for the divisional lead at the end of the month. For the next month and a half the Giants and Dodgers had eleven lead changes, and oddly enough the Giants only kept the lead after their center fielder and MVP candidate Melky Cabrera was busted for using testosterone. I'm disapponted in Cabrera, only becuase I was looking forward to the stupid contract that the Royals were inevitably going to offer to him next year.

    Projected starting lineups:

    Reds Giants
    2B Brandon Phillips CF Angel Pagan
    SS Zack Cozart 2B Marco Scutaro
    1B Joey Votto 3B Pablo Sandoval
    LF Ryan Ludwick C Buster Posey
    RF Jay Bruce RF Hunter Pence
    3B Scott Rolen 1B Brandon Belt
    C Ryan Hanigan LF Xavier Nady
    CF Drew Stubbs SS Brandon Crawford

    It's not exactly clear what's going on with the back end of the Giants lineup. Joaquin Arias has picked up a lot of starts at SS lately, and Nady/Blanco seem to be in a platoon situation in LF. The Reds have chosen Zack Cozart and his .288 OBP to bat in front of perennial MVP candidate Joey Votto. I guess he must have plus speed, because stolen bases what you really need when you have a high slugging batter right behind you.

    Rotations

    Giants: Derrek Lee, Madison Bumgarner, Tim Lincecum, Barry Zito

    Reds: Johnny Cueto, Bronson Arroyo, Mat Latos, Homer Bailey

    Team Statistics (NL Ranks):

    • wRC+: Giants 99 (4th), Reds 93 (9th)
    • BSR: Reds 5.3 (4th), Giants 4.3 (5th)
    • SP FIP- : Reds 98 (7th), Giants 102 (10th)
    • RP FIP- : Reds 82 (1st), Giants 99 (10th)
    • UZR: Reds 11.9 (4th), Giants 8.6 (7th)
    • DRS: Reds 32 (2nd), Giants -7 (8th)

    Maybe I should have picked the Giants as my most overrated team, huh.

    Game schedule:

    Game 1 (@SFO): Saturday, 8:37 PM CT

    Game 2 (@SFO): Sunday, 8:37 PM CT

    Game 3 (@CIN): Tuesday, 4:37 PM CT

    Game 4 (@CIN): Wednesday, TBA

    Game 5 (@CIN): Thursday, TBA

    Storylines you may or may not care about:

    I wonder which Cabrera will be mentioned more tomorrow: Miguel's Triple Crown or Melky's PED suspension.

    Will Big Time Timmy Tim show up in the playoffs? The Giants are considering starting Zito over him in game three, which shows how much his star has fallen.

    The Reds are starting Bronson Arroyo in a playoff game. It would be fitting if he faces off against Barry Zito. If they make it to the WS, I hope the Orioles do too so he can face off with Joe Saunders in the LOL-Bowl.

    Speaking of futility, Ryan Theriot was the Giants starting 2B for half the year, and batted second for 64 games.

    Reds manager Dusty Baker was hospitalized with an irregular heartbeat for four days during the Cubs series last month, and may even have had a mild stroke. He's lost 20+ pounds and is back with the Reds to face the last team that he took to the World Series.

    Buster Posey is probably the NL MVP, and has had a relatively quiet MVP season. I haven't really heard any buzz for anyone in the NL other than Posey, and that's just been from Giants fans. Joey Votto probably would have been the MVP if he hadn't missed a nearly two months with a knee injury in the middle of the season. He led the NL with a .474 OBP. Those are Playstation numbers. He also had a .567 SLG, 6th in the NL, but somehow only 14 HRs. He came in second to Rodrgio's 50 doubles with 44 of his own.

    Projection:

    I can't seem to find the BPro odds either, but I think the Reds are the clear favorites in this series.

    Berselius
    He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.
    Berselius

    73 Responses to “Series preview: San Francisco Giants (94-68) vs Cincinnati Reds (97-65)”

    1. Rice Cube 1 Rice Cube says:

      Giants: Derrek Lee, Madison Bumgarner, Tim Lincecum, Barry Zito

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    2. Rice Cube 2 Rice Cube says:

      I think the Reds are the clear favorites in this series.

      I’m going to throw all your fagety spreadsheets out the window and root for the Giants anyway.

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    3. josh 3 josh says:

      Problem with signing Upton, I think, is that he is coming in with a previous reputation of not hustling. I just think fans/media would tear him apart, Milton Bradley style.

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    4. Rice Cube 4 Rice Cube says:

      Moneyball —> 26-pitch first inning despite two K’s

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    5. Rizzo the Rat 5 Rizzo the Rat says:

      How did the Giants go from anemic hitting and great pitching to virtually the reverse in just 1 year? A healthy Buster Posey and an ineffective Lincecum is part of the story, but it’s still weird.

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    6. Rizzo the Rat 6 Rizzo the Rat says:

      The Tigers are the real moneyball team. Just look at those fat, high-OBP guys in the middle of their lineup. (Note: I haven’t read the book, but that’s what moneyball means, right?)

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    7. Rice Cube 7 Rice Cube says:

      Rizzo the Rat wrote:

      The Tigers are the real moneyball team.

      They definitely make more money :D

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    8. uncle dave 8 uncle dave says:

      Haven’t watched much of the Tigers this year, but man, is Prince Fielder fat. Amazing he doesn’t have more injury issues.

      (Yes, I’m just now noticing this.)

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    9. Rizzo the Rat 9 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Delmon Young is terrible. I can’t belief he’s the no. 5 hitter and DH on a playoff team. His wRC+ was 87 the last 2 years in a row.

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    10. GW 10 GW says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:

      off the top of my head: melky was fantastic, pagan had a great year, more brandon belt

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    11. Rice Cube 11 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Jim Leyland is smarter than you.

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    12. Rizzo the Rat 12 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Young has been worth 0.8 fWAR and 0.6 rWAR. In his career. He has to be one of the very worst players to get regular playing time since 2007.

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    13. mb21 13 mb21 says:

      Verlander doesn’t have very good control tonight.

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    14. Berselius 14 Berselius says:

      @ GW:

      Sandoval is pretty great too

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    15. Berselius 15 Berselius says:

      One of my Math Profs from UW wrote:

      Sure, there are more errors in the postseason on average, but that’s just because Derek Jeter is in the playoffs every year.

      (dying laughing)

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    16. mb21 16 mb21 says:

      The umpire should have called the infield fly rule on Coco Crisp’s 1st inning home run.

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    17. Rice Cube 17 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      I figure with that pitch count Verlander’s got maybe two innings left and then the A’s can try to scrounge up some runs against the bullpen.

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    18. Berselius 18 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      Come on, mb, that’s totally against the rules. You should know better. There has to be a runner on base to call it.

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    19. mb21 19 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      In the umpire’s judgment there were runners on 1st and 2nd. Can’t challenge judgment calls.

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    20. Berselius 20 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      (dying laughing)

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    21. Rice Cube 21 Rice Cube says:

      Hit-and-run fail.

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    22. Rizzo the Rat 22 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Having Delmon Young run was almost as dumb as having him hit.

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    23. GW 24 GW says:

      @ Berselius:

      true. i was just going for big differences from last year.

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    24. Rice Cube 25 Rice Cube says:

      Wow, THAT was a strike? I know Verlander’s good and all, but damn.

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    25. Rizzo the Rat 26 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      The comparison to the Castro play was nice. Virtually the same thing, except that Castro actually caught the ball.

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    26. GW 27 GW says:

      @ mb21:

      perhaps you haven’t read the book blog today. MGL has watched thousands of games and he thought it was a good call. I’m going to start deleting your comments if you disagree with him.

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    27. Rizzo the Rat 28 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ Berselius:
      Jeter doesn’t make many errors. You have to actually get to the ball to make an error.

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    28. mb21 29 mb21 says:

      @ GW:
      I read that and laughed. He’ll delete any comments that basically disagree. (dying laughing)

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    29. mb21 30 mb21 says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      I don’t think the person was trying to be accurate, but rather funny by explaining the errors with Jeter’s poor defense.

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    30. mb21 31 mb21 says:

      @ GW:
      I really don’t think MGL understands people very well. I don’t think most people were really upset because they believed that it was the wrong call based on the rule book. I might have at first, but after reading the rules it’s hard to argue that. I still believe it was the wrong call though. Like Tango asked, had they not called infield fly on that play, would anyone have complained?

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    31. Rizzo the Rat 32 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ mb21:
      I know. I was being snarky, too.

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    32. mb21 33 mb21 says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      I’m an idiot.

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    33. GW 34 GW says:

      @ mb21:

      right, when a rule does the exact opposite of what it’s intended to do, it tends to bother some people.

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    34. Rice Cube 35 Rice Cube says:

      Francona —> Indians officially official

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    35. Rice Cube 36 Rice Cube says:

      121 pitches. You think Verlander’s done?

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    36. Rizzo the Rat 37 Rizzo the Rat says:

      I will say that I think MGL has a point that this kind of snafu is so rare that changing the rule seems kind of extreme.

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    37. Rice Cube 38 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      I haven’t read the Tango blog thread but I don’t think the rule needs to be changed, just the players and managers have to be better apprised of how it’s supposed to be called/signaled/whatever’d. Either that or they have to better define how it’s supposed to be judged since it’s a pure judgment call.

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    38. Rice Cube 39 Rice Cube says:

      What would be fucking awesome for Pat Neshek and his family is if the A’s were able to come back right now after his shutdown inning and earn him the victory tonight.

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    39. Rice Cube 40 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Wishful thinking.

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    40. Rice Cube 41 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Of course the best thing that could’ve happened was if Pat Neshek’s infant son were still alive. To pitch in that situation so soon afterwards is pure madness to me, but I guess he needed it.

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    41. 42 Billy Beane says:

      My shit doesn’t work in the playoffs.

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    42. josh 43 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I think there’s an element of benefit. He said his wife joined him up there. They’re around people who care for them. He’s able to shut his mind off and focus on pitching while he’s doing it.

      Seriously, I don’t think a human being is capable of feeling anything worse than that. I get choked up every time I think about the joy we felt that first day and what it must be like to have that cut off abruptly. That’s the worst.

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    43. 44 Joe Morgan says:

      @ Billy Beane:

      *scoffs in your general direction*

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    44. Berselius 45 Berselius says:

      Wow, this sucks for the Reds

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    45. Berselius 46 Berselius says:

      Thank DeRosa for the playoffs. We’ve had 8 posts in the last two days, after having something like two posts in the eight previous ones (dying laughing)

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    46. josh 47 josh says:

      Whoa, what the hell just happened?

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    47. Rice Cube 48 Rice Cube says:

      Johnny Cueto broke.

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    48. Berselius 49 Berselius says:

      Cake made by a a friend of a friend from HS:

      Double plus bonus: it’s a wedding cake

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    49. josh 50 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Two batters in? That sucks.

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    50. Rice Cube 51 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      8 pitches if I counted right. It really does suck and speaks to the fickle nature of the injury demons.

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    51. mb21 52 mb21 says:

      What the hell? What happened to Cueto? Just turned the game on.

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    52. mb21 53 mb21 says:

      There goes my pick for the Reds winning it all.

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    53. Berselius 54 Berselius says:

      Reports of many Giants fans standing and applauding Cueto’s injury. I know who I’m rooting against the rest of the way.

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    54. Rice Cube 55 Rice Cube says:

      Video makes it look like a groin issue. Didn’t Cueto have groin problems earlier this season?

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    55. Rice Cube 56 Rice Cube says:

      @ Berselius:
      You sure they’re not applauding him walking off under his own power? The video cut off on me. But fans can be dicks.

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    56. Berselius 57 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      It’s not like he was concussed or anything. I turned the TV on just as they were pulling him.

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    57. Berselius 58 Berselius says:

      Whatever ad wizard greenlit that MLB fan cave commercial with Bronson Arroyo should be fired

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    58. Berselius 59 Berselius says:

      (dying laughing) at everyone who is surprised that Latos is warming up to pitch the rest of this game. How is that not the right move?

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    59. Berselius 60 Berselius says:

      Back spasms for Cueto

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    60. Rizzo the Rat 61 Rizzo the Rat says:

      The 5 Reds starters had zero injuries all year and started 161 games combined (they also brought in Todd Redmond to pitch game 2 of a doubleheader against the Cubs). They were due for an injury.

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    61. Berselius 62 Berselius says:

      Geno Smith: 25 TD, 0 INT

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    62. Berselius 63 Berselius says:

      Apparently he had spasms before the game, but tried to pitch anyway

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    63. Rice Cube 64 Rice Cube says:

      @ Berselius:
      That sounds like a day-to-day issue, thank goodness for them. The way he was gimping around after coming off the mound made it seem like a groin.

      I actually applaud the decision to get Latos loose here. He’s the #4 starter right? He’d still have time to recover for a potential game 4 or 5.

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    64. Rice Cube 65 Rice Cube says:

      I like how they used Homer Bailey as the pinch-bunter here (dying laughing)

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    65. Berselius 66 Berselius says:

      Phillips got all of that one

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    66. Berselius 67 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      He was supposed to start game 3. I think the Reds are hoping Cueto can take his place

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    67. Rice Cube 68 Rice Cube says:

      Early on it looks as though the Reds are going to go home with the homefield advantage after all. I do hate the 2-3 setup regardless.

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    68. Aisle424 69 Aisle424 says:

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    69. Rizzo the Rat 70 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Looks like the wild Aroldis showed up today.

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    70. Rice Cube 71 Rice Cube says:

      There was surprisingly little commotion about those two invocations of the infield fly rule.

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    71. Suburban kid 72 Suburban kid says:

      I think I will watch the Nats-Cards game. Go Natinals!!!

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