Carl Crawford and a prospect to the Marlins for Hanley Ramirez and Heath Bell is something that Bob NIghtengale is suggesting is in the works that doesn't make the least bit of sense. Carl Crawford, a truckload of money and all the Red Sox prospects for Hanley Ramirez makes sense, but other than that this is just ridiculous.
I've read several times over the past few days that the Cubs really really want to trade Ryan Dempster so that they can focus on trading Matt Garza. This sounds as absurd as the Crawford/Hanley trade proposal. Can the Cubs not chew gum and spit at the same time? They have to trade one to work on trading another. It's like a check list? One down. Now we can move on and talk about another player. Can't talk trade about more than one player at a time. What the fuck? Obviously this is bullshit, but why do people keep saying this?
The Kansas City Royals inquired about Matt Garza. Obviously the Royals were told that the Cubs had to first trade Ryan Dempster before they could talk Garza trade. No, seriously, why the hell would the Royals want Matt Garza?
This ad in the local paper doesn't seem right.
I agree with what EP said in the last thread. I’d trade Dempster to the Pirates for the 33rd pick and a mid-level prospect.
MO posted this yesterday and it somehow got flagged as spam: http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/7006
I think it’s kind of funny that Akismet sees the Daily Herald as spam. (dying laughing)
I think this has to do with market saturation (not sure if correct term but it makes sense to me) in that if both Dempster and Garza are still on the market, then teams still have a choice, but once Demp is off the market, then teams have less choices because the supply just went down by one. It’s probably still bullshit but that’s what I’ve read.
@ Rice Cube:
Except BOTH Dempster and Garza are on the market. If some team calls and wants to talk trade for Garza Theo or Hoyer isn’t going to hang up and tell them to call after they trade Dempster. It’s just a silly comment by writers. Hoyer already said they’re taking calls for several players.
@ mb21:
I think that the journalists are just going with a narrative but it does seem like the Cubs are trying to fast-track a Dempster trade. However, they can fast-track the Demp trade while also fielding calls for Garza, so I definitely agree with you that the Cubs are able to multi-task. Once one is traded, though, I’m guessing the urgency to acquire the other will change in the Cubs’ favor.
The only thing I can think of is if a Dempster trade is either imminent or complicated, and the brass needs to concentrate on that right now to either get it done quickly or to work out the complexities. This seems unlikely, but it’s a possibility.
Bubbs just relaized he will see Batman one hour before Mish…
RUH ROH
@ bubblesdachimp:
Mish is probably going to kill you.
@ mb21:
Will tweet him ending after Mitt Romney kills batman
Doug Padilla @ESPNChiCubs
Soler to DH in AZ league tomorrow. First game action. Almora not ready for games yet.
@ bubblesdachimp:
We all know this is impossible.
@ bubblesdachimp:
(dying laughing)
Seeing that stalker picture in the sidebar made me think, “I bet Al posted a FanShot about this story, and I bet he fucked it up by criticizing his readers’ comments and the like”.
mb21 wrote:
I’m not going to kill him…but I don’t have to save him.
Dick move batman you even saved the joker and he blew up a hospital
@ bubblesdachimp:
False.
Mish is going to be here tomorrow
I’d go, but I’m taking my daughter to the local Minor League game tomorrow.
I probably won’t see TDKR until August, so…
Baez doing Baez things and hits a doube
bubblesdachimp wrote:
Better be careful or else he might get suspended for drug violations…
Jackson with a double… I really like our hitting prospects
I’m surprised Baez hasn’t been bumped to Daytona
I guess a 4.2% walk rate is probably reason enough to keep him there for now.
@ mb21:
He gets hit by a lot of pitches it seems.. WHen i watch on gameday it seems like he has a good eye.. I think he has only been there for about a month and a half i am cool with not rushing him. Maybe send him their in August
Hope soler goes 4-4 with 4 homeruns tomorrow. Would be so dope
good call about the hbp though it’s difficult at his age to know how much is that is talent and how much it is a freak thing. he has more hbp than walks. weird.
@ mb21:
its so bizarre to me. I dont know if the ability to get hit a lot is one you want your special players picking up
@ bubblesdachimp:
Everyone knows Ra’s survived that crash. He couldn’t let the Joker die as it would have looked like he (Batman) pushed him off the side and killed him and that would have played into Joker’s plan.
a player who knows how to get hit by a pitch usually does it by just not getting out of the way of pitches. In other words, he’s getting hit on the ass and shoulder while other batters are getting out of the box. I’m OK with that. I like it actually.
@ mb21:
Biggio mode.
Darwin Barney just made a great play on that caught-stealing. Great block.
@ Rice Cube:
Reed Johnson too
chase utley
bubblesdachimp wrote:
I didn’t take you for a women’s soccer fan, bubs
@ GW:
South Carolina is very good at women’s soccer at the international level.
Anyone that has read the Dark Knight books already knows how this ends. Most have even figured out how they condense the stories to make a coherent movie without violating the original storyline. They just get clever with the cure and the Lazarus Pit.
It’s possible that the teams inquiring about Dempster and Garza have similar interests in the same secondary piece such as Barney, and that’s why they need to get one done before the other. Just a thought.
Watching my first Cubs game in about two months after finishing up school/working. Good to be back in these parts. (dying laughing)
CASTRO!!
Soto is pants.
@ David:
I suppose anything is possible, but I’d like to think this front office can work on more than one trade at a time. If you’ve got players you’re sellling you need to be taking offers whenever they come in. If you get a good one or can negotiate a deal for one, you do it. I cannot imagine a situation in which this front office isn’t doing that. It’s possible the Cubs think Dempster will be more valuable if they get rid of him first, but even if that’s true they’re still working on offers for Garza too. And others.
F7 is lucky Hanley didn’t put that fucking meatball on Waveland.
@ mb21:
I was thinking more along the lines of thinking they can get a lot for Dempster and Barney, but if the offer doesn’t meet their expectations they can still package Garza with Barney. It doesn’t necessarily have to be the pitcher’s value, but the value of the package. This is TheVan by the way. Not sure why I can’t get the mobile app to post as my username.
@ Mercurial Outfielder:
F7 hung one earlier too that Hanley just missed.
@ David:
are you logged in?
You may be right, but I still think if the Cubs got an acceptable offer for Barney and Garza that they’d take it. They’d have to, wouldn’t they? What happens if that team interested in that deal goes elsewhere and the deal they’re hoping to make along with Dempster falls through? Then you’re screwed.
I also don’t think they’ll be trading Barney for what it’s worth. He’s nothing great, but he’s a solid player considering his defense and makes league minimum. I’d be very hesitant to trade him because I just don’t know what his value is in a trade. It’s hard to figure out because the defensive metrics disagree a lot.
@ PFD:
I just saw the Castro home run. Good to see him flash some power. He’s been struggling.
@ mb21:
I was just using Barney as an example for the package deal. But let’s say Team A wants Grienke from the Brewers but the Brewers are dragging their feet. Plan B is Dempster and a secondary piece. Team B wants Garza and the same secondary piece, but the Cubs think they can get more for Dempster and that secondary piece…Do they take the first sure offer or try to get the most value for what they have? I say they wait and see if they can move Dempster before agreeing to deal Garza. Just my opinion.
9k for F7 in 5IP. Did he look good or get lucky?
@ TheVan:
that’s a big risk though. You risk the sure deal for one that may never happen. Keep in mind most deals teams talk about never reach an agreement. I think one GM said something like 90% of trade talks fall through. I don’t think you can take that risk. But it’s possible. Then again, we do have Hoyer’s word saying he’s talking trades about several players so I’m thinking it’s just a narrative for the sportswriters to roll with. I could be wrong though.
@ WaLi99:
He looked pretty good and just OK at the same time. He gave up a lot of hits and some were hit really hard. He didn’t have very good command, but the batters were having trouble making contact.
Baez with another base hit and RBI.
I love him.
what a play by Infante even though they didn’t get him.
YYou think we non tender soto after this year?
Baez has been incredible. I wonder if he’ll get moved up anytime soon. Also, shouldn’t Vogelbach get a bump up to Boise after what he’s done to the AZL.
@ PFD:
Rock shoulders is playing first there and playing well..
@ PFD:
azphil said he was obviously frustrated after his poor showing in exst. i’m guessing they are just letting him get his confidence back up.
Just fucking call it, for Pete’s sake.
donnie veal called up by the chisox
@ Mercurial Outfielder:
Yeah, the Cubs are home team. Call it.
@ mb21:
Story of my little league career. (dying laughing)
Ah ok. Wasn’t sure, and for some reason I thought Vogelbach was ahead of Rock Shoulders in terms of prospects.
@ SVB:
Getting hit by the pitch that is, not actually hitting the pitch.
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing) @ new OV banner
Hey, the Hope Monster is up. Hope Monster, Hope Monster, yaaaaaaay, Hope Monster.
Is there some reason they haven’t called this game? Do the Marlins have to complete their inning?
@ SVB:
Game should be official after 5 full and with someone in the lead. I guess they’re trying to see whether the storm moves quickly but I doubt it.
@ Rice Cube:
When the rain delay kicked in, WGN switched to Tom Skilling and weather. Looks like it’ll be hours before the storms pass. So at this point, I’m learning that America’s Funniest Videos aren’t any funnier now than they were 20 years ago (except the baby pissing into the baptismal pool).
Current radar for Chicago:
Even if that cell doesn’t hit the lake and stall or turn around, there’s another behind it. Call the fucking game, morans.
Wrigley, right now, per Miles on FB:
Miles says the rain is “coming in sheets.” No reason not to call this, the field isn’t even going to playable when it does stop.
They took the “rain delay” banner off the WGN broadcast. (It wasn’t interfering with AFV content any.)
@ SVB:
And now on MLB.com they say its final.
CUBS WIN
@ SVB:
About time.
FOR A WORLD SERIES AMIRITE
It’s been called. Cubs win!
@ SVB:
@ Mercurial Outfielder:
@ Rice Cube:
I should read every word.
@ Rice Cube:
You’ve been warned.
I like the banner.
@ josh:
LARBUDDY
55-22 guys. I’m telling you!
Sorry I have to ask a question that has been keeping me up at night and plaguing my mind since the twins series. What’s larbuddy?
@ PFD:
He is the better prospect. However Rock is doing pretty good at Boise
@ WaLi99:
It’s an onomatopoeia.
@ josh:
It looks pretty good. Thanks again.
Did you guys realize Castro is the same age now that HanRam was when he was a rookie? HanRam hit 17HR that year, if Castro has another second half like last year he could get pretty close to that. I’m not saying he has HanRam type power in him, but wouldn’t it be cool if he did?
/haven’tsleptoptimism
@ josh:
Christ..Luckily I loaded OV before starting to drink my coffee, otherwise I would have spit it all over my monitor.. Goddamn Hope Monster scared the shit out of me…(dying laughing)
Michael Bowden (dude from Byrd trade) has been putting together some good outings in Iowa. In 20 IP, he has a WHIP of .9, K/BB of 3.43, and K/9 of 10.8
@ mikeakaleroy:
I like that Theo is looking at the Hope Monster without an ounce of fear showing. It’s well done.
I like to think that Theo and the Hope monster are rivals in some sort of anciet competition for the souls of Cubs fans.
@ Edwin:
Like peanut butter and chocolate.
@ josh:
Peanut butter and chocolate seem more like collaborators than rivals though.
@ Mobile Rice:
There are parallels, damn it!
@ Mobile Rice:
It’s a metaphor!
This is a year!
@ Doogolas:
Although Ramirez wasn’t exactly hitting for power in the minor leagues, he was still hitting twice as many home runs at Castro a the same age. Hanley Ramirez is also a couple inches taller and about 40 pounds heavier according to Baseball Reference. I’m guessing Ramirez put on a lot of weight and started hitting more home runs. Same could happen to Castro, but I don’t think he’ll be hitting them out like Ramirez once was. Ramirez is an odd player. He was a fantastic player until he was 26 and he’s fallen off a cliff since. He’s been worth .6 rWAR since the start of last season.
It’s not a bad comparison though, TV. I think there are some notable differences and in all honesty I hope Castro doesn’t end up like Ramirez because I’m not sure he’s that good anymore.
Also, Hope Monster has eaten Soriano and is now left fielder for the Cubs.
@ Edwin:
In my universe, you can never have too much chocolate and peanut butter.
/PMS’d
@ mikeakaleroy:
No wonder the LF defense has improved!
/stupid Cubs fan’d
@ Rice Cube:
“I say we move Soriano back to 2B, since he obviously can’t play LF”
/even more stupid Cubs fan’d
mb21 wrote:
Wasn’t he battling injuries last year? I don’t know about this year.
@ josh:
Could be. I’m not sure, but he’s not been very good since 2010.
Happy soler day!!!
@ mb21:
He played 90 some games last year. But even the year before was a sharp dropoff from his previous two years. It doesn’t look good for him ever going back to that form.
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
scout on jorge soler: “hes going to be a monster.” (thats a good thing, btw) #cubs
bubblesdachimp wrote:
We should play “Jon Heyman or Lady Gaga tweets”
I’m glad Jon had the foresight to tell me that was a good thing, otherwise I might have thought that Soler was going to turn into Bane and break MIsh’s back.
@ Mercurial Outfielder:
IS THAT A KNOCK ON ROMNEY, YOU COMMIE!?
@ Mercurial Outfielder:
Keep the political stuff outta here. That is your first warning
Hey whatever happened to Stuart Turkeylink?
@ Mucker:
He quit. He’d been around since the beginning of ACB (he and I along with someone else started it) and hadn’t really been a Cubs fan for about 4 or 5 years.
mb21 wrote:
Lucky.
new shit up
@ mb21:
So he just gave up his Cub fan allegiance? How did he do that? I’ve been trying for years.
Royals sign Jason Kendall. To me, that’s almost as surprising as the Orioles signing Barry Bonds or something.