NLDS: Cardinals @ Cubs Game 4

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Here we go. Time to clinch this and get it done. I'll take 6 more home runs today and I think that will be good for a win. Addison Russell injured his hamstring last night on a triple and was removed immediately. It didn't look awful, but you never know with those things. He's not in the lineup and Javier Baez is in his place. Other than that, the lineup is the exact same as last night.

Lineups

Cardinals
Matt Carpenter, 3B
Stephen Piscotty, 1B
Matt Holliday, LF
Jason Heyward, RF
Jhonny Peralta, SS
Randal Grichuk, CF
Kolten Wong, 2B
Yadier Molina Tony Cruz, C
John Lackey, P

Cubs
Dexter Fowler, CF
Jorge Soler, RF
Kris Bryant, 3B
Anthony Rizzo, 1B
Starlin Castro, 2B
Kyle Schwarber, LF
Miguel Montero, C
Jason Hammel, P
Javier Baez, SS

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  1. JonKneeV

    With the wind blowing in, here’s to a lot of singles/doubles to center that turn into doubles/triples because Grichuk can’t throw a baseball.

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  2. Perkins

    JonKneeV:
    Want to hear something crazy? Carl Crawford is getting starts in the outfield over Yasiel Puig Don Mattingly is playing a constant game of “how many fireable offenses can I commit as manager?”

    Fixed.

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  3. BVS

    What’s this BS on the TBS pregame about Baez being a big defensive liability at SS? The pregame host obviously hasn’t been paying attention, except for one play last night. Props to Pedro for disagreeing and Dusty for pointing out Baez’s power.

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    dmick89

    I think Dusty has picked the Cardinals in 3 of the 4 games so far. He’s still pissed off, though I do understand why he’d hate Chicago considering the racism that not only he had to endure, but also his family. I’d hate Chicago too.

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  5. BVS

    Perkins: Re: Mattingly…Fixed.

    He and Yost continue to prove that good talent can overcome bad managers. OTOH, Fredi Gonzalez continues to prove that teams with less talent cannot overcome bad managers.

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    dmick89

    BVS,

    Baez wasn’t known for his defense in the minor leagues. This whole Baez is good at defense thing is new. Like this year new. Maybe he suddenly improved. Possible, but I’m not buying it.

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  7. Millertime

    Sometimes I feel sad, because I really wanted Ramirez, Sosa, Zambrano, and Wood to get a ring. The 2003 team was when I first became more than a casual fan, and I haven’t stopped since.

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  8. Perkins

    dmick89:
    BVS,

    Baez wasn’t known for his defense in the minor leagues. This whole Baez is good at defense thing is new. Like this year new. Maybe he suddenly improved. Possible, but I’m not buying it.

    I think it’s fair to say he doesn’t suck, but there’s a definite drop off from Russell to Baez.

    I also love how Lackey’s starting on three days rest didn’t seem to factor into most of the analysts’ predictions. Pedro’s the only one with any kind of intelligent thought other than “Cardinals have to win this one, so I bet they will.”

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  9. Perkins

    BVS: He and Yost continue to prove that good talent can overcome bad managers.OTOH, Fredi Gonzalez continues to prove that teams with less talent cannot overcome bad managers.

    I’m still flabbergasted that Yost got another manager gig.

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  10. Urk

    oh, Jesus Christ.

    Pull Hammel now.

    This is especially maddening given his posturing about being taken out early-ish earlier in the season. Fuck him.

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  11. JonKneeV

    Jason Hammel’s game plan:
    – Throw fastball in strike zone
    – Don’t do anything different from previous starts
    – ?
    – Profit

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  12. Urk

    Seriously. Two runs. Pull him now, and we can have better hitting and better pitching the rest of the game. Does he understand that we’d like to win this game?

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  13. Millertime

    dmick89,

    All it takes is one or two comments from a “scout” or a coach or some such, talking about “great defense” and then those comments get kicked around back and forth in a vaccuum of coverage until it becomes the accepted narrative.

    It’s how someone like Mike Olt gets labeled as a plus defender, even though there’s been little actual evidence of it. A scout says something to a prospect evaluator, who writes it up in a blurb on a prospect list, and than that blurb gets kicked back and forth on blogs.

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  14. Urk

    dmick89:
    Cubs ought to get the bullpen up at the start of the top of the 2nd.

    Yeah, don’t fuck around. We have an actual chance of not having to go back to St. Louis and HAVING to win there.

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  15. JonKneeV

    Geez man. No fastball command and a bunch of get-me-over breaking balls. Idk how you can leave him out there for the top of the order again.

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  16. Smokestack Lightning

    Fuck Lackey and his goddamned Cardinal voodoo. Done with this POS pitching like Baseball Jesus.

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  17. cerulean

    I watched those first two games of the 2003 NLDS in Atlanta. Cheap tickets. I think we got Jim Hendry’s autograph on a sign. That was a lifetime ago.

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  18. Urk

    Well, I was in the middle of typing a complaint about Hammel hitting with two on, and there ya go. Happy to be wrong…

    And…

    BAEZ!

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  19. cerulean

    Urk:
    Well, I was in the middle of typing a complaint about Hammel hitting with two on, and there ya go.Happy to be wrong…

    And…

    BAEZ!

    Things escalated quickly (dying laughing)

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  20. Smokestack Lightning

    Perkins:
    Just because it worked out doesn’t make Hammel bat the right decision.

    It was a fantastic decision. Prove me wrong.

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  21. Suburban kid

    I was busy texting my son to tell him I called Hammel’s hit so I missed the full glory of the Baez swing.

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  22. Smokestack Lightning

    Sooo… Lackey’s pissed because Cruz called for a curve and Hammel hit it and he wanted to throw something else?

    Well, John, shake off your backup catcher until he calls what you want. I’m sure you’re allowed to do it.

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  23. Millertime

    Baez hits some of the most entertaining HR. I still hope he turns into a decent everyday player, because I just love watching him.

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  24. cerulean

    These commentators. It’s basic physics—if the wind is blowing toward right at all, all balls that are hit will be *wind-aided*. Only a true crosswind or no wind will not have any effect on the distance. So Baez’s homerun *was* wind-aided, just like every homerun last night. But none of them were cheap.

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  25. Smokestack Lightning

    Millertime:
    Josh,

    Was it that bad?I was following on my phone, and the calls didn’t look too bad.

    False. They looked horrible. Do you have Verizon or something?

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  26. Perkins

    cerulean:
    These commentators. It’s basic physics—if the wind is blowing toward right at all, all balls that are hit will be *wind-aided*. Only a true crosswind or no wind will not have any effect on the distance. So Baez’s homerun *was* wind-aided, just like every homerun last night. But none of them were cheap.

    This could be my obvious Cubs bias, but it seems like the announcers are stopping just short of openly rooting for the Cardinals. As with yesterday, I’m impressed they can sound words with all that Cardinal dick in their mouths.

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  27. Millertime

    Josh,

    I usually give umpires the benefit of the doubt. For starters, nobody calls the strike zone according to the rules anyways, so I’m not sure how accurate the boxes really are in these situations. I’m more interested in how consistent they call it compared to the rest of the league.

    Also, most of these pitches are split second decsions, from over the shoulder views, based on a difference of inches. I figure there’s always going to be errors, until the robots take over. Which probably hurts the Cubs more than helps them.

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  28. cerulean

    Suburban kid:
    cerulean,

    I’m simulcasting Pat and Ron the last two games because they are so horrible.

    The streams not lining up always bugs me, but if I could sync them—you are doing that through the mlb website?

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  29. Josh

    Millertime,

    Compared to what I normally see on Gameday, this is not as good. I don’t give a shit what their angles are, they are professionally trained to recognize strikes from that angle.

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  30. Smokestack Lightning

    dmick89:
    Hammel even shaking his head after being taken out. He’s probably going to be traded in the offseason.

    I interpreted that as shaking his head about the bad umping. He’s gotten pretty roundly screwed all game.

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  31. Urk

    dmick89:
    Hammel even shaking his head after being taken out. He’s probably going to be traded in the offseason.

    “What the fuck? I just gave up two runs and labored to get guys out over three innings, and then walked the leadoff batter on four pitches. Its not like its a big game or anything.”

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  32. Rizzo the Rat

    I felt bad earlier this year when Hammel was getting pulled early no matter how well he pitched, but not after how he pitched the last couple months.

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  33. Suburban kid

    cerulean,

    I have MLB.TV going through a PS3 to my TV, and I got the MLB At Bat app on my phone going for the radio, which can also be paused if necessary.

    Obviously you need a subscription and not be blacked out, but can’t you dudes pause your live TV (assuming you have a digital service that does that)?

    (and assuming you’re not at work)

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  34. cerulean

    Perkins: This could be my obvious Cubs bias, but it seems like the announcers are stopping just short of openly rooting for the Cardinals. As with yesterday, I’m impressed they can sound words with all that Cardinal dick in their mouths.

    I don’t think there is much bias—there just isn’t much depth of knowledge, and since St Loius has been better over the last few years, there are just more clichéd stories to fall back on. I can imagine that ever they are tiring of the “Look, rookies!” narrative around the Cubs.

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  35. cerulean

    Suburban kid:
    cerulean,

    I have MLB.TV going through a PS3 to my TV, and I got the MLB At Bat app on my phone going for the radio, which can also be paused if necessary.

    Obviously you need a subscription and not be blacked out, but can’t you dudes pause your live TV (assuming you have a digital service that does that)?

    (and assuming you’re not at work)

    VPN helps for the blackouts. I am close enough that I can get the radio, usually (South Bend), so I’ve never bothered with the MLB audio. Next game, maybe.

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  36. Perkins

    cerulean: I don’t think there is much bias—there just isn’t much depth of knowledge, and since St Loius has been better over the last few years, there are just more clichéd stories to fall back on. I can imagine that ever they are tiring of the “Look, rookies!” narrative around the Cubs.

    That’s a more rational way to look at it. Maybe it’s just easier for them to do their jobs (admittedly poorly) if the Cardinals advance. Not really looking forward to the NLCS also being on TBS.

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  37. Nate the old recalcitrant one from a long time ago

    Getting the good Grimm back could be a good weapon if this playoff run can continue

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  38. Millertime

    I’ll admit, the bullpen the rest of the way doesn’t make me feel too comfortable though. Pretty much the only RP I trust are Strop and Rondon.

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  39. Smokestack Lightning

    Millertime:
    I’ll admit, the bullpen the rest of the way doesn’t make me feel too comfortable though.Pretty much the only RP I trust are Strop and Rondon.

    If we get up by a few more runs, I bet Gibbons will let the Cubs borrow David Price.

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  40. Smokestack Lightning

    dmick89: I didn’t mean for that to sound rude. Sorry about that.

    Stick your sorries in a sack, man. It’s too late to apologize. Too late.

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  41. cerulean

    Perkins: That’s a more rational way to look at it. Maybe it’s just easier for them to do their jobs (admittedly poorly) if the Cardinals advance. Not really looking forward to the NLCS also being on TBS.

    Some announcers are great at play-by-play, some it doesn’t matter what sport. These guys are not those guys.

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