Chris Jaffe over at The Hardball Times posted an article yesterday on the 30th anniversary of the Ryne Sandberg trade.
And one more thing: DeJesus was several years younger than Bowa. To be precise, he was seven years and one month younger. Thus even though Bowa had the reputation and the name value and the Gold Gloves, in order to pull off the shortstop swap the Phillies had to throw in a second player.
And that’s where the deal became a disaster for Philadelphia.
On the face of it, the Phils sent the player they could most afford to lose. They sent Chicago a young prospect who played third base. Folks, it’s January 1982 and the Phillies are pretty well settled at third base, thank you very much. They had a guy named Mike Schmidt and he’d just won his second consecutive NL MVP Award.
I can’t help but think that this type of trade is less likely to happen today. Sandberg, by today’s standards, doesn’t profile as a 3rd baseman so he’d be moved to 2nd base. Jaffe points out that many lopsided trades are going to be logical trades at the time they were made and this one was from the Phillies perspective.
424, go ahead and post whatever you’re working on when you want to.
The Phillies never heard of changing a guy’s position back in 1982? Seems weird that they wouldn’t have thought to try him at 2nd.
Maybe they had a 2nd base prospect or player they liked better, too.
I think it’s like Jaffe said. They had Schmidt and Sandberg wasn’t going to beat him out of a job and since they needed to add another player he was one they could part with.
This should replace wins above replacement.
From that point of view, this trade actually made a lot of sense. I guess Ryno really epitomized the draft “crapshoot” phenomenon as he was a 20th round pick.
@ Mish:
How would you pronounce LYOF? That’s why I like WAR. It’s easy to say. (dying laughing)
mb21 wrote:
I think you’d say “Lee-off”…
This trade (and similarly successful trades for the Cubs like the Fergie Jenkins one) is why it pisses me off when people point to the Lou Brock trade to show how cursed the Cubs are. They’ve made some terrible trades, but they’ve made about as many (if not more) great ones.
mb21 wrote:
(dying laughing)
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mb21 wrote:
With a French accent, preferably.
Berselius wrote:
Dude, did you just steal this from George Takei?
josh wrote:
Every image that is ever posted on this site was created by the poster, didn’t you know? Sounds like you need to reread the 23-part series of posts about posting.
Berselius wrote:
Wait, so those ones I saw on failbook originated here too?
This will cause me to rethink what I know about the World Wide Web.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/lego-man-space-moves-230122438.html
Legos in space
Quoting Rice Cube
We already the highest Lee-off of all time:
I think it would LIE-off, as in “Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.”
I added a comment rating plugin.
I take that back. It’s not playing nicely with the site.
WP just doesn’t have any decent comment rating plugins. They all contain way too much code for something that should be relatively simple.
mb21 wrote:
Yeah, if you ever find a good one, be a chum and let me know – I’ve been searching/trying/failing for a year.
@ Brett:
Over the last 2 days I’ve tried about 6 of them and they just suck. It’s really surprising. The ones we had on Jcomments were simple and easy. It seems the WP developers are trying to top one another with more and more features.
nice new diggs!
So the Bears have a new GM? Where is the Epstein-esque press conference and associated media circus? Did he go to a Starbucks?
@ 26.2cubfan:
Monday @ 2 I hear
26.2cubfan wrote:
I think everybody knows by now this whole thing was a sham and this guy is only here to act as pro personnel director, with no power to hire and fire anyone, so no one really cares.
Here’s the dope on Emery: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0129-bio-box-bears-chicago–20120129,0,1219606.story
Out of curiosity, let’s say that Selig gave Matt Garza to the Red Sox. How would arbitration work after that?
The Red Sox would have to deal with it
If Selig gives the Red Sox compensation that is considered to be exorbitant, I think the most immediate consequence we will see is that no exec with ambitions will ever sign more than a 1-year deal.
Latest from Nick Cafardo, best Chicago beat reporter:
My best guess is that it tops out at Trey McNutt.
I think giving BOS a significant player will have the opposite effect. FO guys that want to move along will stop signing multi-year deals, and there will be more FO turnover than before. Selig is such a short-sighted commish.
@ Rice Cube:
I certainly hope it’s not more than that.
new shit: http://www.obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/more-on-theo-epstein-compensation.html