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  • The worst Cubs of 2012

    In a season that has mostly sucked it seems appropriate to pay tribute to those who helped them suck even more than they would have otherwise. I haven't looked this over so I'm doing the work as I write along. We'll start with the position players and if I feel like I'll do one for the pitchers tomorrow.

    Joe Mather has had a spectacular season. His .210/.257/.326 batting line is good for a .255 wOBA. Thanks to -9 UZR and below average baserunner he's been worth -1.5 fWAR and has had only 242 plate appearances. Mathers has an even more impressive -2.0 rWAR though BPro's WARP has him at a measly -0.9.

    Josh Vitters career is off to a fabulous start. It's been so good the Cubs are likely to shut it down for good. Yes, we're back to that. Vitters has opposite-of-hit .113/.171/.196 and that's good for a wOBA of .170. His fWAR is -1.4. Consider this, Mather has had 242 plate appearances and has been worth -1.5 fWAR. Vitters has 105 PA and has been worth -1.4.Although Mather has been horrible at the plate, his wRC+ is a solid 57 points higher than that of Josh Vitters (-5). Josh's rWAR is -1.3 and his WARP is a team worst -1.4. Mike Trout is 11.7 rWAJV.

    Although he only played in 13 games for the Cubs, Marlon Byrd has the 3rd worst fWAR at -0.8. His rWAR is 4th worst at -0.4 and his WARP is 5th worst at -0.5.

    Then there's Steve Clevenger who can't even be close to replacement even though he has the advantage of being a catcher. His fWAR is -0.7, rWAR -1.0 and his WARP is -1.3.

    Honorable mention: Blake. The Cubs would have been nearly a win better if they didn't have any player named Blake. Blake Lalli and Blake DeWitt combined had -.8 fWAR, -.6 rWAR and -.4 WARP in 46 plate appearances.

    The average of the 3 WAR's barely gives Joe Mather (-1.5 WAR) the lead over Josh Vitters  (-1.4). It's actually -1.46 for Mather and -1.43 for Vitters so these next 4 games are critical. Then again, Mather has more than twice as many PA as Vitters so it's really not at all close. If Vitters had the playing time that Mather has, he might have -3.3 WAR.

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    92 Responses to “The worst Cubs of 2012”

    1. Rice Cube 1 Rice Cube says:

      But Joe Mather feeds the Hope Monster…

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    2. Rice Cube 2 Rice Cube says:

      Rusin actually doing fairly well despite that fail earlier.

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    3. Rizzo the Rat 3 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Pirates ————> losing record

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    4. WaLi 4 WaLi says:

      That Zagurski does not look like an athlete. At all.

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    5. Rizzo the Rat 5 Rizzo the Rat says:

      More like FAILbuena.

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    6. Rice Cube 6 Rice Cube says:

      The Cubs have stumbled into a lead.

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    7. Rizzo the Rat 7 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      They keep giving away outs, too.

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    8. Rice Cube 8 Rice Cube says:

      All-Star TOOTBLAN

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    9. Rizzo the Rat 9 Rizzo the Rat says:

      I just hope that the O’s win AL East crown over the Yanks. That would be awesome.

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    10. mb21 10 mb21 says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      This team is good at that.

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    11. Rice Cube 12 Rice Cube says:

      So…many…TOOTBLANs…

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    12. Suburban kid 13 Suburban kid says:

      @ mb21:
      At least she gets the quotes, amirite?

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    13. EnricoPallazzo 14 EnricoPallazzo says:

      mb21 wrote:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      That’s going to hurt their playoff chances. I really thought they had a chance, but it looks like they’re choking it away late in the season once again.

      so close. at least they’re poised to dominate next season.

      Rice Cube wrote:

      The players really like Sveumy:

      http://muskat.mlblogs.com/2012/09/30/930-garza-says-thanks-to-sveum/

      and apparently really fucking hated quade. that’s news to me…did i miss something? did everyone else know about this?

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    14. WaLi 15 WaLi says:

      I think Aaron Rodgers just got his eye ripped out. And then his replacement came in and fumbled on the goal line on his first career snap (dying laughing)

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    15. EnricoPallazzo 16 EnricoPallazzo says:

      Rizzo the Rat wrote:

      I just hope that the O’s win AL East crown over the Yanks. That would be awesome.

      i live in baltimore and i was out walking around today and this is the first day all season that everyone is wearing o’s gear. people have been saying all season that “they’ll shit the bed at some point”. i’m not even sure they’ve been selling out recently with the exception of the special cal ripken night they had a few weeks ago. no one here gives a shit about baseball anymore…kind of annoying considering how much fun their team has been this year.

      but yeah, it would be really cool if they won the division. i’ve got tix for the first round of the playoffs…can’t wait.

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    16. Berselius 17 Berselius says:

      @ WaLi:
      Ugh. This game fucking blows :/

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    17. mb21 18 mb21 says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      They loved Quade in 2011 and hated him in 2012. Here’s how many fucks I give about how players feel about their manager: 0. (dying laughing)

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    18. mb21 19 mb21 says:

      Len: If you keep track of assists, Darwin Barney gets one.

      Thanks, Len. I’m sitting here right now tracking assists. I have a folder on my computer going back to 1988 and sometimes when I’m bored I glance through the assists leaders. It’s so much fun.

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    19. WaLi 20 WaLi says:

      @ Berselius:
      I’m enjoying it :)

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    20. Rizzo the Rat 21 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      They have a tougher schedule ahead of them than the Yankees (they are on the road against the Rays; Yanks are at home against the Sox).

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    21. Rizzo the Rat 22 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Also, there’s the whole thing about the Yankees being the better team.

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    22. SVB 23 SVB says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      @ SVB:
      If you are familiar with how human reproduction works, this is not a completely inaccurate statement…

      I thought we were all just a little squirt.

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    23. Rice Cube 24 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:

      Depends on the dispenser, I suppose.

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    24. SVB 25 SVB says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      At the end of Muscat’s article about Garza’s bromance with Sveum there is this gem:

      Be the first to like this.

      Com’on. This has been linked here for >1 threads and none of you has given Carrie some love yet?

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    25. SVB 26 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      A teaspoon is a teaspoon, no matter what size magnifying glass you are looking through, amigo.

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    26. WaLi 27 WaLi says:

      @ Berselius:
      The referees hate GB

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    27. josh 28 josh says:

      @ SVB:
      False. Depends on grain size, surface tension, leveling, packing, etc.

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    28. josh 29 josh says:

      We’re about to see Wisconsin go Thermohooligan, methinks.

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    29. Rizzo the Rat 30 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Here’s hoping the Cubs sweep the Astros at home to avoid 100 losses.

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    30. Rice Cube 31 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      False.

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    31. Rice Cube 32 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      Or maybe correct. I don’t know what Green Bay residents do after a win.

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    32. SVB 33 SVB says:

      @ josh:
      (dying laughing)
      I figured the response would be about exit velocity and viscosity. Pretty sure surface tension only would slow the little guys down.

      As for the dispenser, it doesn’t matter if you pour a teaspoon out of this:

      or this:

      It is still a teaspoon.

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    33. Rice Cube 34 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:

      I’d respond to this line of discussion but I fear this might get into TMI territory.

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    34. Berselius 35 Berselius says:

      I think I need a beer or ten

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    35. Rice Cube 36 Rice Cube says:

      Berselius wrote:

      I think I need 2 or 288 beers

      :D

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    36. josh 37 josh says:

      @ SVB:
      You’re assuming some sort of ideal concept of “teaspoon.” I disagree.

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    37. WaLi 38 WaLi says:

      @ SVB:
      Wtf are you guys arguing about (dying laughing)

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    38. mb21 39 mb21 says:

      @ WaLi:
      I was going to ask this question. Thanks. (dying laughing)

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    39. Rizzo the Rat 40 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Dunn needs 5 strikeouts in 3 games to tie the record. If anyone can do it he can (well, him and BJax).

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    40. SVB 41 SVB says:

      1 US teaspoon (tsp) = 4.92892159 milliliters (ml)

      Rice Cube wrote:

      I’d respond to this line of discussion but I fear this might get into TMI territory

      Yeah, ol’ Vin Scully is probably tut-tutting us right now. Considering how healthy he apparently is at his age, he must have been one of those large-grained teaspoons-full that Josh was talking about.

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    41. Rice Cube 42 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:

      I apologize to everyone here for this line of discussion that I may have inadvertently started and perpetuated.

      I think Jackass did this once.

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    42. josh 43 josh says:

      SVB is endorsing a Platonic reality, I’m denying the truth of this. Also, boredom.

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    43. josh 44 josh says:

      @ SVB:
      That’s just avoiding the central issue.

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    44. SVB 45 SVB says:

      @ WaLi:
      Ah, WaLi, that’s what you get for not reading every word, I guess. I’m just being a jerk and perpetuating a ridiculous line of commentary. But I did think the Big Gulp picture was funny.

      From last thread:

      Rizzo the Rat wrote:

      @ SVB:
      All fossils were created by the Great Flood. Same with all those geographical features like mountains and canyons.

      SVB wrote:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Vin Scully was created by a flood?

      Rice Cube wrote:

      @ SVB:
      If you are familiar with how human reproduction works, this is not a completely inaccurate statement…

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    45. SVB 46 SVB says:

      @ josh:
      What was the central issue, again? Let me see if I can get back to it.

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    46. SVB 47 SVB says:

      I’m discussing weights and measures which have standard values, Josh is debating what the meaning of “is” is. Also, boredom.

      I apologize that as a good scientist, I didn’t just give all the guys here the benefit of the doubt with the metric system and round up to 5 mL. Using tsp is poor form.

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    47. josh 48 josh says:

      @ SVB:
      No, you said no matter how powerful the microscope, a teaspoon is a teaspoon, but that’s not the case. If you look close enough, two teaspoons of matter won’t have exactly the same weight. It maybe an extremely small difference and practically insignificant (until you get down to quantum levels). It sounds like BS, but it’s a significant problem in dynamic systems because of sensitive dependence on initial conditions (i.e., chaos).

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    48. josh 49 josh says:

      @ SVB:
      Sometimes small differences matter a whole lot. Believe me, there are entire books devoted to the problem of those tiny differences that are dependent on how fine your system of measure.

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    49. josh 50 josh says:

      All declaring 1tsp = x mL does is establish a standard, it says nothing about actual matter and achieving that “1 tsp/x mL” standard we are comparing the quantity to.

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    50. josh 51 josh says:

      It’s like saying there’s an objective measure of beauty. I have to disagree on principle.

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    51. SVB 52 SVB says:

      @ josh:
      I hope, for Rice Cube’s sake, no one is looking at his dispenser with a microscope, a magnifying glass is bad enough.
      (dying laughing), (dying laughing)

      @ Rice Cube:
      @ SVB:

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    52. SVB 53 SVB says:

      @ josh:
      (dying laughing), (dying laughing), (dying laughing)
      of course, Kim DeJesus is still miffed by that!

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    53. Rice Cube 54 Rice Cube says:

      This took a weird turn (dying laughing)

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    54. mb21 55 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      I don’t really want to get involved in this discussion, but I assume what you’re saying is, for example (a simple one), a teaspoon of floor will weigh more than a teaspoon of sifted floor. Or that a teaspoon of water would weigh more than a teaspoon of oil.

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    55. SVB 56 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I’m not even drinking…

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    56. SVB 58 SVB says:

      .

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    57. SVB 59 SVB says:

      Photobucket

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    58. WaLi 60 WaLi says:

      Out of all the sidetracked conversations on this blog, this is probably the strangest.

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    59. EnricoPallazzo 61 EnricoPallazzo says:

      the fact that this discussion is taking place on what is ostensibly a cubs blog is a great testament to how shitty this team truly is.

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    60. Rice Cube 63 Rice Cube says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:

      …but NOT TODAY!!!!

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    61. Rice Cube 66 Rice Cube says:

      O’s season almost went down in flames:

      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/30/fire-aboard-orioles-plane-results-in-emergency-landing/

      Not really, but still scary. Glad all were okay.

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    62. SVB 67 SVB says:

      @ WaLi:
      I think it all got started by Mish and Rizzo equating RBI to fossils. In Gotham, Batman is always responsible.

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    63. WaLi 69 WaLi says:

      @ Rice Cube:

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    64. SVB 70 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Commissioner Gordon: Batman!
      Batman: I only slapped him a little
      Gordon: No matter how large the hand, or how hard the impact, a slap is still a slap.
      Josh: Whoa, wait a minute here.

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    65. Rice Cube 71 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:
      I see what you did there.

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    66. mb21 72 mb21 says:

      Dexter was really good tonight. I heard Sepinwall and Feinstein talking about how much better it is this year. It is.

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    67. SVB 73 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I wouldn’t want to derail the discussion any more than I already have, so I thought we should point back to Josh’s comments, because I’m dying to hear about a teaspoon of floor.

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    68. Rice Cube 74 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:
      Is the floor hardwood, carpet or marble/granite?

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    69. SVB 75 SVB says:

      @ SVB:
      Which, by the way, will be my OV-inspired band name: Teaspoon of Floor. I’m thinking a harmonica (me), 2 pipers, a steel drum, and a ukelele.

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    70. WaLi 76 WaLi says:

      @ mb21:
      Great. I forgot about it. I’ll have to watch it tomorrow night.

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    71. SVB 77 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Beats me, that was MB’s contribution.
      @ mb21:

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    72. Rice Cube 78 Rice Cube says:

      I figure he meant “flour” but he was probably inputting this on the iPhone rather than the iPad with the attached keyboard ;)

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    73. SVB 79 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      (dying laughing). Probably, but floor seems to fit this sidetracked thread better than flour, which would kind of make sense.

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    74. 80 Akabari says:

      So I met Dolis today. I guess he dates this girl I work with. No one I work with knows shit about baseball so people were asking me “Why is she still working if she’s dating a baseball player? He must terrible”
      …they have no idea.

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    75. SVB 81 SVB says:

      @ Akabari:
      He’ll be seasoning cast iron skillets with teaspoons of floor before he knows it.

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    76. Rice Cube 82 Rice Cube says:

      Texas, NYY, O’s —-> October

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    77. mb21 83 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      (dying laughing), that was on my iPad though my keyboard was charging. I have no idea why autocorrect changed flour to floor. (dying laughing)

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    78. mb21 84 mb21 says:

      @ Akabari:
      Yeah, it’s not like Dolis is rich. Or ever will be.

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    79. SVB 85 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Yes, and the White Sox E number is 1.

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    80. GBTS 87 GBTS says:

      Josh Vitters career is off to a fabulous start. It’s been so good the Cubs are likely to shut it down for good.

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    81. GBTS 88 GBTS says:

      SVB wrote:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Yes, and the White Sox E number is 1.

      I went to two games this weekend and got to witness this epic turd they’re laying first hand. My favorite moment though has to be eavesdropping on a conversation between a man and his toddler son sitting behind me on Saturday. The White Sox were down something like 6-0 at the time and had only managed a single hit. With the season quickly fading, the father offered up this sage advice to his young impressionable offspring:

      “Yeah it’s lookin’ bad, but it’s like I always tell you: there aint no better feelin’ in the world than when you sneak up behin’ someone’s back and knock ‘em out cold after they thought they left you fo’ dead.”

      White Sox baseball!!

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    82. Rice Cube 89 Rice Cube says:

      @ GBTS:
      I thought they were banned from the Cell after beating up that base coach.

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    83. GBTS 90 GBTS says:

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    84. SVB 92 SVB says:

      .

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