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  • The Children Are The Future-Cubs Minor League Update Sponsored by RC Cola

    Iowa

    Brett Jackson had a pair of hits and stole his 3rd base of the year and Anthony Rizzo continues to mash AAA pitching to the tune of .380 as the Iowa Cubs  lost 2-6. It might be time for Jay Jackson to say goodbye as he is just terrible. Yesterday also marked the debut of Frank Batista in AAA. Batista started the year in AA and did well and he struck out 2 in 2 IP last night. Seems like the Cubs like this guy alot based on a sub 10 IP sample. 

    Smokies

    We should just stop talking about AA. The only player left who is worth a shit is a RP. 

    Daytona

    AGGRESSIVE BASERUNNING! is spreading. Last night Daytona had 3 guys caught stealing. Spellcheck Jr now has as many CS as SB's. Knuckleballer Joe Zeller had a decent 4 inning appearance and tonight Hayden Simspon pitches after getting a few days extra rest after his last debacle. 

    Peoria

    Taiwan Easterling hit a triple which drew a stern rebuke from the Chinese Embassy. Tonight the Cubs continue their annual game of Is He a Starter or RP? by switching Kyle(r) Burke from the pen to start the game. Because nothing is better for young arms than to keep doing this over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

    dylanj
    DylanJ was born in a secret military base on Baekdu Mountain. His coming was foretold by a rare double rainbow and marked the sight of a new star in the sky. After defeating Jaime Lannister in battle at the age of 15 in the 77th Hunger Games he became an internet expert at staring at minor league box scores. His thoughts on said box scores can been seen Mon-Fri at Obstructed View.
    dylanj

    157 Responses to “The Children Are The Future-Cubs Minor League Update Sponsored by RC Cola”

    1. Rice Cube 1 Rice Cube says:

      Peoria Chiefs FB just said they added Gerardo Concepcion to their roster.

      Nice snark, btw.

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    2. 2 Nate says:

      I drank alot of RC Cola as a kid in NC

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    3. Rice Cube 3 Rice Cube says:

      Sponsored by RC Cola

      This amuses me.

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    4. mikeakaleroy 4 mikeakaleroy says:

      Cherry RC is quite tasty as well. Just a public service announcement for ya’ll.

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    5. Rice Cube 5 Rice Cube says:

      I propose this as your next sponsor:

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    6. mikeakaleroy 6 mikeakaleroy says:

      Now that Concepcion has a team, any word on the enigma that is Jorge Soler? I’m assuming he still isn’t a free agent, but haven’t heard a lot on him lately. Then again, I live in a cave.

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    7. Rice Cube 7 Rice Cube says:

      @ mikeakaleroy:
      This might be the greatest thing to every happen to RC Cola. Tell me more.

      I’ve only seen the regular stuff in stores and did not know that a cherry flavor existed. I am excited.

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    8. mikeakaleroy 8 mikeakaleroy says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Here you go! It is quite tasty.

      http://www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com/brands/rc-cola/

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    9. Rice Cube 9 Rice Cube says:

      @ mikeakaleroy:
      I didn’t know Dr. Pepper made RC. The cherry vanilla Dr. Pepper is awesome too.

      I have learned something new today.

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    10. josh 10 josh says:

      Who is spellcheck jr?

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    11. Rice Cube 11 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      Szczur

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    12. 12 Nate says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      They didn’t use to, must have bought them in recent years. RC was the first coke in a can according to wikipedia.

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    13. WenningtonsGorillaCock 13 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

      RC Cola will also now be the only cola-flavored soft drink available at Bears games. Along with Dr. Pepper and 7-up.

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    14. 14 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Who fears to speak of Easter Week?

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    15. Rice Cube 15 Rice Cube says:

      @ WenningtonsGorillaCock:
      I think I prefer that to the Pepsi products that are available in Cubs games.

      But I will always be a Coke fiend.

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    16. Rice Cube 16 Rice Cube says:

      http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2012.shtml

      So what factors (other than the teams sucking) are suppressing offense this first month of the season? I was fairly confident the Cubs could muster 70 runs in April but the Pirates have barely scored two runs a game. I didn’t think that was possible. I assume it’ll equalize over the course of the season but what an epic fail.

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    17. WenningtonsGorillaCock 17 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I prefer Pepsi to Coke, but I mostly drink Coke Zero. Despite the commercials, Coke Zero does not taste like Coke (it’s better).

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    18. Rice Cube 18 Rice Cube says:

      @ WenningtonsGorillaCock:
      Have you ever tried the Mexican Coke with pure cane sugar? It’s more expensive but it’s so much better than regular Coke. There’s only so much high-fructose corn syrup one can stomach.

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    19. mb21 19 mb21 says:

      I’m not a fan of Pepsi. If I drink a non-diet cola it’s going to be RC, but I don’t drink them very often. I mostly drink water and tea, but enjoy the occasional Diet Mountain Dew. I don’t think I could ever turn down freshly squeezed orange juice. (dying laughing)

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    20. Mish 20 Mish says:

      I try to avoid pop, but I like both Coke and Diet Coke, and usually drink the latter. I do like Coke Zero too, but I prefer to Diet Coke to it still. I’m not an anti-Pepsi person but will prefer Coke.

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    21. GBTS 22 GBTS says:

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    22. GBTS 23 GBTS says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I think I remember Wali said he does.

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    23. WaLi 25 WaLi says:

      @ GBTS:
      What did I do?

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    24. Rice Cube 26 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Rany is not a happy panda.

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    25. Mish 27 Mish says:

      Rogers said this:

      The 3-2 victory over the Cardinals, the product of a lineup that had Joe Mather at third base and Jeff Baker at first base, should quiet that down for a little bit. Believe me, unless you’ve crunched numbers for an afternoon, you probably shouldn’t second-guess a Sveum lineup. The players who start, and the way guys are used off the bench, are as much (probably more) the result of the Theo Epstein/Jed Hoyer statistical analysis as they are the manager’s instincts.

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    26. GBTS 28 GBTS says:

      @ Mish:
      I like that it took one win for Theo to become The Wizard of Oz again.

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    27. 29 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Mish:

      Phil Rogers is the dumb version of MGL.

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    28. Berselius 30 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      Mexican Coke rocks. I don’t drink soda very often (it’s pretty much just water, coffee, and beer) but I usually pick up a bottle or two at the grocery store if I know I’m going to be doing stuff outside. Having it in just about all the grocery stores is one perk of living here.

      Usually the only soda I drink is root beer, and even then not that often. Diet sodas are anathema. My in-laws are all diet coke fiends and my wife always gets re-hooked on it when we visit.

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    29. mb21 31 mb21 says:

      Mish wrote:

      Rogers said this:

      I’d write an article, but I’m busy blowing Theo and Jed.

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    30. 32 Mobile Rice says:

      @ Berselius:
      If you’re near a Costco you should check and see if they carry it in bulk. 24-pack of 20-oz bottles for $19 or so.

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    31. WaLi 33 WaLi says:

      Berselius wrote:

      Mexican Coke rocks

      Mexican coke rocks are why the cartel is killing kids in Mexico. There’s a thread in the forum about this:
      http://www.obstructedview.net/forum.html?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=46

      I prefer water/tea/beer myself, but if I need caffeine (like if I’m driving on a road trip) then I drink Coke Zero Cherry or Diet Dr. Pepper

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    32. mb21 34 mb21 says:

      I’ve had Colombian Coke.

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    33. Berselius 35 Berselius says:

      Sounds like that ridiculous Royals ranking is mostly based on 3 weeks worth of UZR, despite the fact that they have a below average DER (dying laughing)

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    34. Berselius 36 Berselius says:

      (dying laughing), and Cameron is defending the ranking on FG

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    35. mb21 37 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Seriously? This should be used as a teaching moment. That ranking was fucking absurd. The entire thing was. I liked what the guy said about the Cubs. Volstad and F7 have poor ERA’s but they should be good the rest of the year because of some shit that means very little to this point in the season.

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    36. GBTS 38 GBTS says:

      @ Berselius:
      Shit like this certainly doesn’t help the sabermetric movement.

      “Hey, you know the worst team in baseball? Better than the Tigers, for reasons you don’t understand.”

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    37. Berselius 40 Berselius says:

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    38. GBTS 41 GBTS says:

      @ Berselius:

      Mr. Deez says:
      April 24, 2012 at 12:35 pm
      So if the Royals got their “situational BABIP” up they’d be a .500 team instead of 3-13 so naturally that means they’re #7 in all of MLB.

      (dying laughing)

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    39. 42 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      It’s pretty wearying how dogmatic the all too many of the FG and BPro folks have become.

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    40. 43 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      regfairfield says:
      April 24, 2012 at 12:42 pm
      You had the opportunity to go “yeah, this is a blip caused by small sample size UZR but in the long run this is a decent method”, but instead you decided to double down on the results and imply that you’re smarter than the people who disagree with you.

      THIS. Exact same thing as the SIERA silliness a few months back.

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    41. Rice Cube 44 Rice Cube says:

      KO Stradivarius (Boulder, CO)

      I’ve always been a fan of Geovany Soto, but at this stage in the Cubs’ rebuilding process, he is obviously the wisest choice and the easiest player to trade next. Lots of teams need a catcher. Who do you think will trade for him, and when?

      Bruce Levine (12:30 PM)

      It’s too early to trade for a catcher hitting .120. If you really want to trade him, wait for him to break out of this a little bit and start hitting some homers. The Cubs had a deal set for him last July with the Pittsburgh Pirates but they backed out of it because Jim Hendry did not want to take away the team’s starting catcher from the next GM.

      This I did not know. Or it happened in the blink of an eye and nobody noticed.

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    42. Berselius 45 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      Nice to see Pittsburgh dodge a bullet for once.

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    43. GBTS 46 GBTS says:

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    44. 47 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:

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    45. 48 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GBTS:

      As a Royals fan, I approve this message. (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)

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    46. josh 49 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      A Royals fan AND a Cubs fan? How do you sleep at night in October with all that excitement?

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    47. Mish 50 Mish says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I second your THIS.

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    48. 51 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:
      It’s a good thing I follow EPL and NFL with greater fervor. (dying laughing)

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    49. josh 52 josh says:

      Pitching coach Don Cooper on Humber:

      “What we tried to do was tap into his best asset: his stuff.”

      Something about the way people talk about a pitcher’s “stuff” all the time always skeeves me out a little.

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    50. josh 53 josh says:

      No baseball at all till tonight? Day: ruined.

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    51. Rice Cube 54 Rice Cube says:

      Too much Hope Monster.

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    52. mb21 55 mb21 says:

      Will someone please start #7mlb if it hasn’t been started already?

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    53. 56 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Tonight the Cubs continue their annual game of Is He a Starter or RP? by switching Kyle(r) Burke from the pen to start the game.

      The best part is that when the Cubs acquired him from SD, he was a OF. (dying laughing)

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    54. mb21 57 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Hendry said he didn’t want to make any deals at the deadline because it was the next GM’s responsibility. Hendry already knew he had been fired so in my opinion he did the right thing. No reason for him to be making those kinds of decisions. Besides, it’s not like keeping Soto has set the Cubs back several years. He’ll hit and when he does there will be plenty of interest. And when the Cubs trade him they’ll be much worse behind the plate than they have been.

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    55. Mucker 58 Mucker says:

      Does anybody have MLB the Show 12′? Is it me or is it impossible to rip a double down the line or hit the ball in the gaps?

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    56. 59 Urk says:

      Jarritos!

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    57. Rice Cube 60 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      Indeed, I understood Hendry’s position, I was just surprised that this potential Pittsburgh trade came up because I hadn’t seen anything on the interwebs about it except from Levine.

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    58. mb21 61 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      Would you rather they talk about his “junk”? (dying laughing)

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    59. mb21 62 mb21 says:

      Mercurial Outfielder wrote:

      The best part is that when the Cubs acquired him from SD, he was a OF. (dying laughing)

      I meant to say that earlier, but forgot. It’s more like a game of “is he a RP, SP or position player?” If there was only a way to tell.

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    60. 63 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I don’t believe for one fucking second a trade was in place. Levine is full of shit.

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    61. Berselius 64 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      Didn’t Randy Bush make some other deadline deal last year? I’m blanking on who it was.

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    62. mb21 65 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      I think there was an insignificant trade, but I can’t remember. The 2011 season seems like it happened in the 80s.

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    63. mb21 66 mb21 says:

      They traded Fukudome for Abner Abreu and Carlton Smith. Haven’t heard of either of them since the trade, but that’s not surprising.

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    64. mb21 67 mb21 says:

      Looks like Carlton Smith may have been released. He was at AAA last season and hasn’t played this year. Abreu hasn’t played this year either and he was in high A last year. That’s just the type of players you get for someone who has no value (see Byrd, Marlon).

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    65. JonKneeV 68 jtsunami says:

      mb21 wrote:

      That’s just the type of players you get for someone who has no value (see Byrd, Marlon).

      I wouldn’t think we would get a blue-chipper or anything. But paying all of Byrd’s salary should get us a low-level prospect that has decent upside. I have a hard time believing we pay his salary and we get a below replacement level RP and the PTBNL is a Michael-Brenly-type prospect (dying laughing).

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    66. Berselius 69 Berselius says:

      @ jtsunami:

      Michael Brenly could be an All Star catcher. You Never Know.

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    67. mb21 70 mb21 says:

      @ jtsunami:
      That’s a good point. If we assume Byrd is as good as he’s projected (league average in the NL). That’s roughly 2 WAR per 700 PA in the NL and 1.5 in the AL. Say he’s worth 1.25 WAR the rest of the way. That’s roughly $6 million in value. That’s what he’s owed the rest of the way so the Cubs should get something. According to this they should get a grade b hitter or pitcher: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/3/777412/al-west-farm-system-values

      This assumes he’s as good as his projections. It sees most people don’t think that’s true. How much worse? I have no idea. I think he’s the same player. I just don’t see any reason to adjust expectations on him based on a few weeks.

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    68. mb21 71 mb21 says:

      Prior to last season I’d have said Brenly isn’t all that bad a prospect, but then he had a ridiculously bad season last year: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa455866&position=C

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    69. josh 73 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      I’m not in a hurry to get rid of Soto. I like watching him play. But if they get a good offer, I understand taking it at this point. I’m not getting attached to any player from the Cubs for a while.

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    70. 74 mobile skip says:

      Late to the party. Cheerwine. Hands down the best pop out there. You didn’t drink this in NC, Nate? @ Nate:

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    71. Berselius 75 Berselius says:

      @ mobile skip:

      Cheerwine is great. I was shocked when I saw it being sold in WI a few years ago, even more strangely I only ever saw it in gas stations.

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    72. 76 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      If he’s transformed, a new sample space has been inaugurated, so we can safely disregard all prior stats at this point.

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    73. 77 mobile skip says:

      @ Berselius:
      Wow. I’ve never seen Cheerwine outside Central NC.

      Rankings at SI: Crap. Houston at 16 and Balt at 19. 16 suggests that Houston ought to be equal to a replacement team right? NOT

      Note to SI: getting the Rangers and Cubs correct in a ranking only means that 2011 Adam Dunn hits better than you.

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    74. Rice Cube 78 Rice Cube says:

      Q for all you computer-savvy baseball OVblog people…

      MLB.com videos used to have an embed button that you could use to paste a HTML code into a blog so that the video could just play in the blog body. That button is no longer there, but I recall one of your previous articles had an embedeed video. How’d you do it?

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    75. Berselius 79 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      I think that was from before they got rid of that button.

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    76. Rice Cube 80 Rice Cube says:

      @ Berselius:
      I wonder if there’s a way to reverse-engineer the code such that you can embed it anyway. MLB is no fun sometimes.

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    77. 81 Nate says:

      @ mobile skip:
      Drank a ton of it as a kid in NC. Sun Drop too. Coke is too sweet for me now; i stick to water coffee and booze

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    78. 82 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      It’s pretty amazing to consider the great lengths to which they go, likely at some expense, to prevent their customers from enjoying their product.

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    79. Berselius 83 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I’m still laughing at the ridiculous gif policy that was recently announced.

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    80. 84 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      Yeah, that’s so unenforceable and dumb…Selig’s tenure as commish in a nutshell: inept, reactionary policies that will only cost them money and fans in the long run.

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    81. 85 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Re: the stupid gif policy:

      A 40-frame GIF constitutes 1/151,200th of an MLB work. Here is 1/151,200th of Infinite Jest: “annular fusion.”— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) April 13, 2012

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    82. 86 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I guess Selig reads every word.

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    83. 87 mobile skip says:

      @ Nate:
      What booze would/did you mix with Cheerwine? I imagine almost anything would make it taste like Robitussin.

      If I could consistently get unsweetened tea in NC and PR, I probably wouldn’t drink pop at all.

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    84. GW 89 GW says:

      @ Berselius:

      (dying laughing) kudos to colin for never missing an opportunity to shit all over his (less competent) competitors

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    85. 90 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GW:

      He seems to take special glee in skewering FG.

      And truth be told, they deserve it.

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    86. Berselius 92 Berselius says:

      Mercurial Outfielder wrote:

      Yeah, that’s so unenforceable and dumb…Selig’s tenure as commish in a nutshell: inept, reactionary policies that will only cost them money and fans in the long run.

      I’m not a big fan of MLB’s business practices in general under Selig (mostly over pushes for public stadia) but it’s not driving many fans or money away (just look at the $$ they’re getting from the RSNs). We can complain about the petty stuff but MLBAM has been insanely profitable and forward looking for MLB relative to all the other sports leagues. For every fan they annoy with this gif crap there’s a thousand people who are glad to have access to mlb.tv, even with their archaic and idiotic blackout structure.

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    87. Berselius 93 Berselius says:

      Can’t wait to see if Mather is in the lineup again today (dying laughing)

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    88. 94 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      Right, that’s why I said long-term. It’s just going to keep costing them more money to keep up all these security measures and restrictions and such. And more and more people are going to get weary of it.

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    89. Berselius 95 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I just don’t think enough people give a shit. It’s amusingly petty, but not going to stop anyone from consuming baseball.

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    90. Rice Cube 96 Rice Cube says:

      @ Berselius:

      Carrie Muskat ‏ @CarrieMuskat Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
      #Cubs lineup vs #Cardinals: DeJesus rf, Campana cf, Castro ss, LaHair 1b, Soriano lf, Stewart 3b, Barney 2b, Soto c, Samardzija p

      Also, a bonus gem from Muskat:

      KJ ‏ @alcavol · Open
      @CarrieMuskat Can Lahair play 3rd, I mean how hard is it?

      Carrie Muskat ‏ @CarrieMuskat Close
      @alcavol It’s extremely hard.
      Hide conversation
      2:56 PM – 24 Apr 12 via web · Details

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    91. 97 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      It is stopping people from consuming it already. Me, for one. I can’t afford any of the shit from MLB.tv, and now I can’t even catch a radio broadcast, and am confined to the scraps of highlights they throw out. It’s only going to become a bigger problem, and people aren’t going to fork over the money in the amounts MLB wants forever.

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    92. Berselius 99 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      Their point is that they want you to watch the highlights on their site instead of here. It’s not like you have to pay to see those highlights. I don’t find it that unreasonable, and watched plenty of them in years that I didn’t have mlb.tv. The gif stuff is pretty laughable though.

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    93. 100 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:

      But their site is clunky and inconvenient, and they don’t even put up complete highlights. At least EPL does stuff like BBC Match of the Day and lets Sky do Sky Sunday and such. MLB just keeps ratcheting up their little scheme. I think it won’t last 5 years.

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    94. GW 101 GW says:

      I agree with MO. Highlights are nothing but advertisements for their product. By restricting those, they will do fine in squeezing their existing fanbase, but not so much in spreading to younger viewers.

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    95. GW 102 GW says:

      someone at the nba understands this, even if stern does not.

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    96. 103 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GW:
      Right. People who have MLB.tv will probably keep it. A few might drop off. But they aren’t growing their fanbase with shit like this. The NHL did the same thing.

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    97. 104 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GW:

      That someone needs to talk to some folks at the NFL, then.

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    98. Berselius 105 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I think they’ve been doing one free mlb.tv game a day, at least for the month of april. And mlb network is on a lot of cable carriers.

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    99. Berselius 106 Berselius says:

      I’m just remembering how much better all of this video stuff is now compared to ~10 years ago and am lucky to have what we have (dying laughing).

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    100. Berselius 107 Berselius says:

      I suspect the gif/pfx stuff is more due to the fact the fact that, from what I’ve seen, 98% or so is to bitch about umpires or make fun of misplays.

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    101. Berselius 108 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I thought the NHL’s problem (well, one of hundreds) was that no one could watch their games due to shitty media negotiations. Apples and Oranges if we’re comparing to MLB restricting highlights to its own site.

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    102. Mish 109 Mish says:

      Seeing as I couldn’t find an embeddable video of Longoria’s game 162 walkoff for Rays opening day, I’m firmly with GW and MO. (dying laughing)

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    103. 110 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      The free game is a smart move. But MLBN is just another iteration of the money grab. Attendance is already down (I know it’s up so far this season, but that’s after 3 years of decline), because cost are prohibitive there, and I’m not sure a lot of those people are going to be willingly herded to MLB.com to do all their baseball viewing. It’s a business move that will garner them short-term profits, but 5-10 years down the road, I think MLB is going to be dealing with a serious decline in the amount of people willing to hand them money.

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    104. 111 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      The last thing on MLBs mind should be how I choose to consume their product. That’s like Hershey’s refusing to sell people chocolate bars because they melt them in coffee instead of eating them piece-by-piece.

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    105. 112 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:

      No, NHL moved all their programming to cable and tried to control how and where fans viewed the game. They lost everyone but the die-hards, and are only just now recovering.

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    106. Rice Cube 113 Rice Cube says:

      @ Berselius:
      I used to watch the NHL all the time when they were on ESPN and ESPN2, but then they moved to VS for whatever reason and I had no access to that channel with my cable package, so there was a period of about five years where I basically watched nothing except for the Stanley Cup Finals games that were on NBC. Ridiculous decision on their part. Not sure if that’s what you were referring to.

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    107. 114 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      That’s it. They also took games of local networks, i.e. WGN. Only a matter of time before MLB does the same thing.

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    108. Berselius 115 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I think MLB is going to be doing just fine in 5-10 years.

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      If it costs them potential revenue, it should.

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      That’s what I was trying to say (dying laughing). No one could find the games because of the cable move to some relatively obscure channel at the time after they got frozen out from, IIRC, NBC and/or ESPN

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    109. Berselius 116 Berselius says:

      Narveson ——–> donezo for the season

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    110. 117 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:

      We’ll see. The NFL, NBA, and hell, even the MLS, already have a more accessible product. MLB is being completely backwards in their approach (although the NFL seems to be trending backasswardsly under Der Kommissionar).

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    111. 118 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:

      That sucks.

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    112. Berselius 119 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      How are the other products so much more accessible?

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    113. Berselius 120 Berselius says:

      The NFL has even more leverage due to the scarcity of its games. You’re fucked if you live out of market and don’t have directTV. Radio streams cost $$ from them now too.

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    114. GW 121 GW says:

      @ Berselius:

      it’s not just about the current bottomline. in terms of profits, i think they will be just fine in 5-10 years, as well. that’s not really the question, though. it’s all opportunity costs at the margins. the biggest knock on the mlb audience is that they are old. they are doing very little to adapt to that right now.

      there are hundreds of people that would love to spend their own free time making custom advertisements for their product and force it into the faces of the casual internet user. in their wisdom, mlb has said, nah, we’re good, we’ll just squeeze our existing customers dry.

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    115. 122 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      Readily available highlights, games televised on multiple networks on a regular basis, better websites with more readily available content, and for MLS and NBA, lots of games televised on local channels. And MLS and NBA at least are moving towards more free content, not away from it

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    116. 123 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GW:
      Exactly. They’re focused on extracting maximum profits from the fans they have now and almost completely ignoring the fans they need to be gaining, i.e. the way the Cubs were run for most of the 80′s and 90′s (dying laughing)

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    117. 124 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I can watch an NFL game on NBC, FOX, ESPN, ESPN3, and, Ticket, NFLN. I can watch NBA on ABC, ESPN, ESPN 3, TNT, the local FOX affiliate and League Pass. I can watch MLS (!!!) on local cable, and the local FOX, on ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPN 3, FSC, and FSC+. I can watch MLB on some local networks, FOX, ESPN, ESPN3, Extra Innings, and MLBN.

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    118. GW 125 GW says:

      try a quick experiment. see how long it takes you to find a blake griffin dunk montage, and then try to find a matt kemp home run montage.

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    119. 126 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      It’s easier for me to watch golf than it is to watch baseball. If I was Selig, I’d be trying to remedy that.

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    120. 127 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:

      Yeah, I’m not happy about or encouraged by the way the NFL is trending. The owners have become incredibly short-sighted and I fear they will soon kill the golden goose, i.e. more games on non-basic cable.

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    121. 129 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Liriano ————–> being skipped this week

      Phillies ————-> lost Pence and Howard for at least a week

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    122. mb21 130 mb21 says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      MLB.com videos used to have an embed button that you could use to paste a HTML code into a blog so that the video could just play in the blog body. That button is no longer there, but I recall one of your previous articles had an embedeed video. How’d you do it?

      It’s still there. They didn’t change anything with regards to embedding content. The issue is that the videos aren’t available to be immediately embedded except on a rare occasion. Here’s a video from 2009 that has the embed button: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=8140947&c_id=mlb

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    123. mb21 131 mb21 says:

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    124. mb21 132 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      It reminds me of a comment that was in, I think, the first episode of Ken Burns’ Baseball where the narrator said baseball is one of the most conservative sports in the world, but many times they are ahead of the others. Their video policy is an example of them being conservative and MLBAM is an example of them being ahead of the others.

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    125. mb21 133 mb21 says:

      Mercurial Outfielder wrote:

      And more and more people are going to get weary of it.

      I don’t see that happening. MLB’s blackout restrictions barely even affect me. There are literally 2 or 3 games each year I’m bummed that I can’t watch. I just don’t care enough about that to get even the least bit upset. I spend less than 30 minutes each year being upset at MLB’s blackout policy. I realize the number of games may be higher for others, but I’m not them and it just doesn’t affect me.

      As annoying as their video and new gif policy is, I don’t really care either. I rarely embed videos and I’m one of the few fans who blogs about baseball. I could probably count on both hands the number of times I’ve embedded a video in articles I’ve written. I’ve never made a gif so although that policy is retarded it will never affect me.

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    126. 134 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      It’s only going to get more restrictive. If it doesn’t affect you now, it will soon.

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    127. GBTS 135 GBTS says:

      mb21 wrote:

      I’ve never made a gif so although that policy is retarded it will never affect me

      As local Gif Secretary, I say you’re either with us or against us.

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    128. mb21 136 mb21 says:

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    129. 137 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GBTS:
      Solidarity! (dying laughing)

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    130. 138 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Maybe now we know why the Cubs beat guys are so slow with the info. They have to wait a couple of days until MLB makes the video available.

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    131. GBTS 139 GBTS says:

      @ mb21:
      Shut Mish right up.

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    132. mb21 140 mb21 says:

      Mercurial Outfielder wrote:

      It’s only going to get more restrictive. If it doesn’t affect you now, it will soon.

      I don’t see that happening. If I can watch fewer games I have less incentive to buy MLB Extra Innings.

      I don’t watch the NFL, but last year I was looking to see if the Raiders were televised. I think they were 3 or 4 times. Basically 25% of their games were on here. I could have paid a million dollars to get Sunday Ticket and I’d have gotten all of the games. I get 98% of the Cubs games and pay half as much as I’d have to pay to get Sunday Ticket. If I don’t want to pay for that I get about 60 games on WGN or a higher percentage of games than the Raiders were televised last year. For people who don’t want to get MLBEI or MLB.tv there’s an issue, but it’s just not one I’m concerned about. If it starts to affect me maybe I’ll care. This just isn’t a fight worth fighting for me.

      MLB isn’t growing their audience here in the US. They’re trying to create a global market for MLB and they’ve done pretty well at that.

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    133. 141 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      I guess b was right. (dying laughing)

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    134. 142 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Seriously, though, if you like watching baseball, do not move to the PacNW. It’s not easy to find, and no one here gives a fuck about it.

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    135. mb21 143 mb21 says:

      @ GBTS:
      I don’t know how old a video has to be before it can be embedded, but they do allow it.

      I’m not saying there isn’t more MLB could do. I’m just saying there’s not more they could do to appease me.

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    136. Mish 144 Mish says:

      @ mb21:
      Well clearly I’m an asshole. (dying laughing)

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    137. mb21 145 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I remember when I moved to Portland my cable provider didn’t have WGN. That was unbelievable. There was this bar down the road that did so I spent way too much time there watching the Cubs. (dying laughing)

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    138. GW 146 GW says:

      mb21 wrote:

      If I can watch fewer games I have less incentive to buy MLB Extra Innings.

      but with bud as nothing more than a pawn for the owners, and the rsn fees skyrocketing, i wouldn’t be surprised.

      we’d be remiss not to mention the plight of fans in iowa and oklahoma, who basically can’t watch baseball

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    139. mb21 147 mb21 says:

      @ GW:
      I don’t have much interest in seeing either, but do we know for sure allowing more access to videos increases the number of fans? I don’t know if it does or not. It makes sense that it would, but that doesn’t mean it does. I do find it very hard to believe that some non-baseball fan is going to see a home run montage of Matt Kemp and think to himself, I’ve gotta go home and watch the Dodgers. More likely that person will watch the video and in two months check to see if there’s a new video montage of Kemp’s home runs.

      Baseball’s problem isn’t their video policy or even their blackout restriction. It’s that they have a 162 game season, which leads to very little drama down the stretch. If baseball wants to create more interest in their sport they’ll consider having 2 seasons per calendar year. Each season is 80 games or so.

      Does anyone see MLB doing this?

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    140. mb21 148 mb21 says:

      GW wrote:

      we’d be remiss not to mention the plight of fans in iowa and oklahoma, who basically can’t watch baseball

      I don’t know about Oklahoma, but that’s not true in Iowa. You get WGN and CSN Chicago all throughout Iowa. I think you get about 140 Cubs games per year. I have family still in Iowa who are Cardinals fans and I think they get 100 games per year.

      Last summer I went back to Iowa 3 different times and could have seen every Cubs game. I didn’t have time to do so, but would catch an inning here and there. I had better luck watching the Cardinals since they tended to play at night more.

      Any person who tells you there are many Twins, Royals or White Sox fans in Iowa is lying. There’s very little interest in any of those teams, but because of WGN and CSN Chicago you get a lot of the White Sox games. When I was a kid we used to have a network that aired the Royals games, but it’s been a long time since that network aired in Iowa. Based on my stays in Iowa over the last 5 years that is the only difference I’ve noticed. You used to be able to watch the Royals once a week and now you can’t. The number of Cardinals games has increased. The number of White Sox games have too and the number of Cubs games has remained the same.

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    141. GW 149 GW says:

      mb21 wrote:

      allowing more access to videos increases the number of fans

      do we know that advertisements increase the number of fans? no, but if they don’t, someone should tell them.

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    142. GW 150 GW says:

      mb21 wrote:

      Any person who tells you there are many Twins, Royals or White Sox fans in Iowa is lying

      then mlb is lying, because they claim it’s their territory.

      it’s pretty fuckin simple; if you can’t get the games on tv, there should be no blackout.

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    143. Rice Cube 151 Rice Cube says:

      @ GW:
      Why black out? If they aren’t going to bother to watch the game in person, and you prevent the fans from watching the game where they want to, that’s not exactly going to make them suddenly want to buy a ticket to watch anyway.

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    144. uncle dave 152 uncle dave says:

      mb21 wrote:

      Any person who tells you there are many Twins, Royals or White Sox fans in Iowa is lying.

      I knew two guys from Britt who were big Royals fans, so there’s that.

      /smallsamplesiz’d

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    145. Berselius 153 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      It looks like the mobile site ate my comment, but everyone gets the FOX games, and ESPN and TBS games are carried in all basic cable packages. There’s also MLBN and whatever local RSN, which are a little spottier in standard packages to varying degrees. MLB highlights are available on their own site, and FWIW I hate the NFL site as much as I hate mlb’s. I’ve never been to NBA/NHL since I don’t follow those sports at all.

      I don’t think MLB directs teams not to do deals with local channels, I think it has more to do with how much MLB is desired by the local stations. No networks want to cut into their weekday primetime ratings (though I think NBC affiliates should push harder for live sports considering their ratings). And the big problem is volume. The NFL has it easy because it’s such a weekend sport and there’s just one a week so you don’t want to miss it. With mlb, it’s more meh with 162 games. It’s going to be a lot harder to slice up that package across various channels unless they’re all owned by the same media corp (Like the Trib with WGN/WCIU/the stake in CSN).

      One other thing that I’m too lazy to look up is what the market penetration is on cable tv and other video outlets. MLB.tv has expanded to a TON of streaming platforms (basically anything that has netflix), and young people value broadband and cable tv access far, far more than older folks these days. GW has a good point with the advertising and the interwebs stuff but I think most of the younger generation has access anyway.

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    146. Berselius 154 Berselius says:

      Then again, the entire internet exploded when netflix was going to raise its fees by $3 or something so I don’t know shit about what most people want to pay for streaming video (dying laughing)

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    147. Berselius 155 Berselius says:

      Our views could also be pretty skewed having grown up with so many free games on WGN. Growing up in the DC area you couldn’t get jack shit as far as live O’s broadcasts even if you did have cable went but fan sentiment was still very strong.

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    148. mb21 157 mb21 says:

      GW wrote:

      do we know that advertisements increase the number of fans? no, but if they don’t, someone should tell them.

      Where exactly are these things posted, GW? I don’t visit any sites that embed NFL videos. I’m not being subjected to youtube after youtube of NFL highlights that grab my attention and make me want to be a fan. I’d guess I see more NFL videos embedded on this site than I do on all the other sites combined (that I visit). I see 50 times the number of baseball videos embedded. Probably a lot more than that. Most of the people who visit this site are already baseball fans.

      That’s what I’m asking. Where exactly are these awesome advertisements that I’m apparently not seeing? Are these really advertisements? I don’t think so. I see embedded baseball videos because I visit a lot of baseball sites. I visit no NFL, NBA or NHL sites.

      Here’s the only question that matters: does MLB make more money forcing people to come to MLB.com to view recent videos or would they make more money if they allowed them to be posted elsewhere? Considering how MLB has maximized their revenues over the last decade I’m going to say that they’re making more money forcing people to come to MLB.com. No sport has maximized their revenues like MLB has over the last decade. I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I’ve also added it up before and forcing people to watch those videos on mlb.com generates MLB at least $5 million per year in ad revenue.

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