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  • Tangotiger now consults exclusively with the Cubs

    cwolf pointed out an article on Tangotiger's blog in which he says the following:

    The Cubs are looking for a Director of Research & Development in their Baseball Operations.  If you apply, make sure to say you “heard it from Tango”.  Since we’re on the topic, I am now providing my consulting services exclusively to the Cubs.  

    That's awesome. This can't be anything but good news for the Cubs and their fans.

    Back on ACB Mercurial Outfielder and I interviewed Tangotiger and you can read it here.

    dmick89
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    68 Responses to “Tangotiger now consults exclusively with the Cubs”

    1. dmick89 1 dmick89 says:

      In the last thread I mentioned I thought the Cubs did have a decent chance of reaching the playoffs. Since “decent” could mean just about anything, let me explain. I think the Cubs are in a position that if several things go their way they could play in October. Last year I’d have been flat out shocked if the Cubs reached the playoffs. I thought the odds of doing so were probably under .1%. I don’t know what the percentage chance is, but I won’t be surprised if they reach the playoffs. I think it’s far more likely that they don’t. As mentioned, I peg them at about 72 wins, but with a true talent team of about 75 or so wins entering the season. That’s enough for them to reach the postseason if enough things roll their way. It’s not likely, but I won’t be surprised.

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    2. Myles 2 Myles says:

      a) This is amazing news, and an important piece as well.

      b) We are the only 2 people who have commented on it so far.

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    3. Myles 3 Myles says:

      Bit of history: Tom Tango’s Run Expectancy Matrix was one of the first things that really got me into sabermetrics (when I concluded that you had to be nuts to bunt).

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    4. Suburban kid 4 Suburban kid says:

      I learn a lot more being around people who aren’t dumber than me.

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

      Could there be a dumber way of saying that? I absolutely think I’m certain there probably isn’t, but then, I’m dumber than you.

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    5. dmick89 5 dmick89 says:

      @ Myles:

      Pretty sure it was that RE table that made me rethink bunts, but also Tango and MGL that made it clear that sometimes bunts are good. I think MGL wrote that chapter in The Book, but I could be wrong.

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    6. dmick89 6 dmick89 says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      I told you I’m dumb.

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    7. Rice Cube 7 Rice Cube says:

      @ Myles:
      I was too busy doing somersaults at the time.

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    8. Myles 8 Myles says:

      dmick89 wrote:

      @ Myles:
      Pretty sure it was that RE table that made me rethink bunts, but also Tango and MGL that made it clear that sometimes bunts are good. I think MGL wrote that chapter in The Book, but I could be wrong.

      Oh, absolutely not a hard and fast rule. Baseball Behind The Numbers has a pretty good chapter on the “sacrifice plays.”

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    9. dmick89 9 dmick89 says:

      Baseball Between The Numbers by Baseball Prospectus? I love that book. It’s one of two stat books I’d recommend to fans who are getting interested in sabermetrics (The Book being the other).

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    10. Myles 10 Myles says:

      dmick89 wrote:

      Baseball Between The Numbers by Baseball Prospectus? I love that book. It’s one of two stat books I’d recommend to fans who are getting interested in sabermetrics (The Book being the other).

      It’s the one. I’ve actually never read the Book, I really should get on that.

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    11. dmick89 11 dmick89 says:

      @ Myles:
      Probably a little more difficult to get through than BBTN, but one of the best baseball books I’ve ever read.

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    12. Rice Cube 12 Rice Cube says:

      @ dmick89:
      Mish was telling me about this (I also read the Book on his recommendation) so I guess I should get on that too.

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    13. Myles 13 Myles says:

      Am I a hack if I say Moneyball is my favorite book?

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    14. Rice Cube 14 Rice Cube says:

      @ Myles:
      Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah…

      I think it was a much better book than movie though the movie was enjoyable.

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    15. 16 Mobile WaLi says:

      This is fantastic

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    16. josh 17 josh says:

      !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    17. 18 AndCounting says:

      Is this for real? Because I’m also dedicating my consulting services exclusively to the Cubs.

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    18. josh 19 josh says:

      I like to think this move is in direct response to all my anti-Hope Monster-ing negativity lately.

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    19. Berselius 20 Berselius says:

      @ dmick89:

      BBTN was a thousand times easier to read than The Book (which I never got around to finishing)

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    20. Rizzo the Rat 21 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ dmick89:
      Yes, that was MGL. That chapter was actually the main reason I bought the book, and it’s probably my favorite piece of sabermetric research ever. I refer to it whenever someone says that RE tables have refuted bunting as a strategy.

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    21. Rizzo the Rat 22 Rizzo the Rat says:

      In short, MGL’s finding was not that the bunt was overused (in fact, he though managers bunted about as often as they should), but rather that the bunt should be employed unpredictably with game theory and infield positioning in mind.

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    22. Rizzo the Rat 23 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Part of the problem with arguing against the bunt is that the average result of a bunt attempt is much better than exchanging a runner advance for an out. Another major part is that it ignores game theory (keeping the defense honest.)

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    23. Rice Cube 24 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      The surprise bunt when the 3B is playing back, or a not-so-obvious squeeze attempt when nobody is bothering to charge…those are probably the best uses of the bunt and definitely things I enjoy.

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    24. Rice Cube 25 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Basically, the 100-point bunt.

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    25. GBTS 26 GBTS says:

      He should bring MGL along just for comic relief.

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    26. SVB 27 SVB says:

      “I have an NDA.” About Ronny Cedeño? heh heh heh.

      Anyway, I only lurked at ACB a little before the Jack Benny Alltime greatest season’s article, so I’m having a hard time with the history of the personalities here at OV. Am I the only one surprised that MB is now an optimist? I’m pretty sure if it weren’t for certain other comments about his choice of beverages, I would assume he is now sporting orange eyes, a red brim on his cap, and a beer gut….

      I still see 100 losses. But that’s OK. When they only win 70, I’ll be the happiest guy here!

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    27. uncle dave 28 uncle dave says:

      So, wait, the Cubs hired the guy who literally wrote The Book?

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    28. SVB 29 SVB says:

      uncle dave wrote:

      So, wait, the Cubs hired the guy who literally wrote The Book?

      Theo must be the miracle worker we all hoped for if he was able to get Moses and Peter to come out of retirement.

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    29. WaLi 30 WaLi says:

      So this has to raise our expected win total by at least 5, right? I mean if Theriot raises the WAR of everyone around him by 0.5 I expect at least that from TangoTiger

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    30. josh 31 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      I just bought this book on a whim purely based on this thread. If it sucks, I’m going to throw my digital copy in the digital trash and EMPTY THE BIN!

      Okay, so we have lost something valuable in the digital age.

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    31. josh 32 josh says:

      @ SVB:
      I think he’s just slowly becoming more sarcastic is all.

      And who would have thought it possible?

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    32. 33 Edwin says:

      AndCounting wrote:

      Is this for real? Because I’m also dedicating my consulting services exclusively to the Cubs.

      Will dropping your name get me an interview with the Cubs?

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    33. WaLi 34 WaLi says:

      Steroids going to be making its round in the news cycle again: (h/t BN)

      http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-01-31/news/a-rod-and-doping-a-miami-clinic-supplies-drugs-to-sports-biggest-names/

      Then check out the main column, where their real names flash like an all-star roster of professional athletes with Miami ties: San Francisco Giants outfielder Melky Cabrera, Oakland A’s hurler Bartolo Colón, pro tennis player Wayne Odesnik, budding Cuban superstar boxer Yuriorkis Gamboa, and Texas Rangers slugger Nelson Cruz. There’s even the New York Yankees’ $275 million man himself, Alex Rodriguez, who has sworn he stopped juicing a decade ago.

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    34. Berselius 35 Berselius says:

      @ WaLi:

      That sound you hear is corks popping in baseball writers’ offices across the country, for having something to grandstand on in the dead weeks before ST.

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    35. Mucker 36 Mucker says:

      I can’t imagine people are surprised by this new PED news. These guys will never stop trying to get an edge. Not when making $15 million a year compared to league minimum is within reach. Once you get the taste of that kind of money, it’s got to be hard to let it go.

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    36. 37 mobile svb says:

      Mucker Once you get the taste of that kind of money, it’s got to be hard to let it go.

      My presciousssssssssssss

      /Heard in every clubhouse

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    37. Mucker 38 Mucker says:

      @ mobile svb:
      I bet Gollum had 80 power. He had a very high protien diet and had exceptional upper body strength.

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    38. WaLi 39 WaLi says:

      @ Mucker:
      No way. While I admit he really grew into his frame the best he could, I wouldn’t compare him to Vogelbach. Gollum was fighting hobbits so it’s hard to guage his actual strength.

      He is probably comparable to Fontenot. Similar size, both scrappy, sneaky power.

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    39. Berselius 40 Berselius says:

      @ Mucker:

      Gollum didn’t need power. His invisibility makes it impossible to call a strike against him, he walked in every PA.

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    40. Mucker 41 Mucker says:

      @ WaLi:
      Good point about fighting Hobbits. He had tremendous hand and eye coordination as evidence by his ability to catch a fish with his bare hands. I don’t know, 80 might be a bit high but he definitely had above average power. I think he could have had 40+ HR power and he would have probably reached based at a Bondsian pace.

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    41. Mucker 42 Mucker says:

      @ Berselius:
      I was thinking because of his non-existent strike zone. I didn’t even think about the power of the ring. He would have broke the SB record too seeing as how nobody would have seen him stealing a bag.

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    42. Myles 43 Myles says:

      If you thought Milton Bradley was a “clubhouse cancer”, just wait until you get a load of the guy who only eats raw fish, constantly talks to himself, and a demonstrated history of violence.

      That’s either Gollum or Carlos Zambrano, I forget

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    43. Myles 44 Myles says:

      Also, both are never going to end up with a ring

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    44. WaLi 45 WaLi says:

      @ Mucker:
      So maybe a 50 power, but a 75-80 hit tool.

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    45. Mucker 46 Mucker says:

      @ WaLi:
      I would say that seems reasonable.

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    46. 47 Edwin says:

      How does Gollum grade out defensively?

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    47. Mucker 48 Mucker says:

      I’m thinking middle infielder with good range but excellent hands and strong throwing arm. 3B maybe.

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    48. 49 Edwin says:

      @ Mucker:

      I was thinking Catcher. I mean, he already has that hunched over thing going on.

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    49. Aisle424 50 Aisle424 says:

      This is a weird conversation even for this place.

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    50. WaLi 51 WaLi says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Agreed. But at least it is baseball related (dying laughing)

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    51. Mish 52 Mish says:

      This blog has the credibility equivalent of Mordor, so I think it works.

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    52. Myles 53 Myles says:

      Uh….

      I’m working on my spreadsheet for my 2013 prediction, and my current projected win total is so high that dmick is blushing. I need to figure out what’s up.

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    53. SVB 54 SVB says:

      Aisle424 wrote:

      This is a weird conversation even for this place.

      The last time I seeded a weird conversation here it was about the size of teaspoon…

      I had no idea this would take off like it has (neither did I for the teaspoon either) but maybe I should have, there is are a lot of scifi nerds in these parts….

      (dying laughing)

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    54. SVB 55 SVB says:

      @ Myles:
      Gollum is only one player, not two.

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    55. Berselius 56 Berselius says:

      @ Myles:

      Without seeing it, my guess is that the league wOBA is off.

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    56. Myles 57 Myles says:

      @ Berselius:
      I’m not using wOBA: rather, I’m using this . League avg/obp could very, very well be off.

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    57. Aisle424 58 Aisle424 says:

      1st question of Bruce Levine’s chat today:

      Mo (Chicago)

      Hi Bruce, To me, Castro looked “soft” at the convention. Do you have any fear now that he’s gotten paid his work ethic isn’t going to be what it should be?

      At least Bruce pretty much dismissed it.

      Bruce Levine (1:02 PM)

      I would doubt it. This guy wants to be the next Derek Jeter. He also has an agent in Paul Kinzer who has nothing but aggressive players under contract. The only thing that I noticed is that Castro looked taller and a little bit stronger.

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    58. Myles 59 Myles says:

      I could be vastly overrating fielding and underrating injury attrition. I use Bill James projections for everyone for OBP/SLG/K/BB, and assume that the Cubs will give 10.3% of their PA to replacement-level batters (close to their 3-year average, positionally) and 15% of their IP to replacement-level pitchers (way lower than the 3-year average, but they have a “stockpile” of above-replacement arms). I’ve diagnosed many ways in which this could go wrong (the highlight of which is improving the -.2 WAR from 3B last season to 3 this year), but the general thrust is that I have a tentative projection that is a hair over .500 for the Cubs this year, a crazy assertion.

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    59. Berselius 61 Berselius says:

      @ Myles:

      3 WAR from Ian Stewart et al? I’m one of the most optimistic people about Stewart and even I think that’s way too high (dying laughing)

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    60. Myles 62 Myles says:

      Berselius wrote:

      @ Myles:
      3 WAR from Ian Stewart et al? I’m one of the most optimistic people about Stewart and even I think that’s way too high (dying laughing)

      No… just 2.1 from Stewart (dying laughing), and 0.9 from Valbuena (dying laughing)

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    61. 63 Edwin says:

      @ Myles:

      Did you “add” in Vitters?

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    62. GBTS 64 GBTS says:

      I thought Castro looked a little chubby.

      Though I couldn’t really give two shits until I watch him in spring training.

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    63. GBTS 65 GBTS says:

      Edwin wrote:

      @ Myles:
      Did you “add” in Vitters?

      This raises all sorts of philosophical questions.

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    64. dmick89 66 dmick89 says:

      @ Myles:
      BJ’s projections generally have a relatively high league wOBA so that might be the cause of it. Also, I agree with berselius about Stewart. I’d be happy if he’s replacement level next year and be ecstatic if he could somehow contribute 1 WAR. I’m not confident he can even be a replacement level player.

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    65. Aisle424 67 Aisle424 says:

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