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  • Playoff play-in chaos scenarios

    I'm a little annoyed that while the overall playoff field is set, only one "series" is set in stone right now (the Braves-Cardinals wild card play in game). Don't these teams realize that writers have series previews to write? Anyway here's how things stand right now, followed by what can happen tonight

    National League:

    3rd seed: San Francisco Giants

    Wild Card 1: Atlanta Braves

    Wild Card 2: St. Louis Cardinals

    The Wild Card game will be played in Atlanta, since they have the better record.

    The Reds and Nationals are currently tied for the best record in the NL. The Nats host the Phillies this afternoon, while the Reds play the Cardinals tonight. Here's what can happen.

    • If Washington beats the Phillies tonight, or if both teams lose, the Nats are the #1 seed. They have a 5-2 head to head record with CIN. In that case the Nats play the winner of the StL/Atl game, and the Reds have home field advantage in a series with the Giants.
    • If the Reds win and Nats lose, the Reds get the #1 seed. The Nats play the Giants and the Reds get StL/ATL

    Amercian League:

    3rd seed: Detroit Tigers

    That's all we know. This is where the tiebreaking fun occurs.

    If Texas beats Oakland tonight:

    The Rangers win the AL West, and Oakland gets a wild card slot

    • If the Yankees beat Boston tonight: The Yankees win the AL East and get the #1 seed, and Baltimore gets the other wild card. If the Orioles lose to the Rays tonight, the WC game would be played in Oakland, as they have a 5-4 record vs the Orioles this season. If the Orioles beat the Rays, they would host the A's. The Yankees would play the winner of this game, and the Rangers would host the Tigers for the NLDS.
    • If the Yankees and Orioles both lose: The Yankees win the AL East and get the #1 seed, based on their head-to-head record of 4-3 with the Rangers. The Orioles play the WC game in Oakland, and the Yankees play the winner of this game while the Rangers host the Tigers
    • If the Yankees lose and Orioles win The Yankees and Orioles tie for the AL East division lead, and play a one-game playoff to determine who has to play in the wild card game. This game would be played in Baltimore, because they have a better intradivisional record than the Yankees and the teams are 9-9 against each other this year. The loser of this game would host Oakland in the wild card playoff game. If the Yankees win the division, they would get the #1 seed based on their record vs Texas. If the Orioles win the division, Texas would get the #1 seed based on their 5-2 record vs the O's

    If Oakland beats Texas tonight:

    The A's win the AL West, and the Rangers get a wild card slot

    • If the Yankees beat Boston tonight: The Yankees win the AL East and get the #1 seed, and Baltimore gets the other wild card. If the Orioles lose to the Rays, the WC game would be played in Texas, as they have a 5-2 record vs the Orioles this season. If the Orioles beat the Rays, the game would be played in Baltimore. The Yankees would play the winner of this game, and the A's would host the Tigers for the NLDS.
    • If the Yankees and Orioles both lose: The Yankees win the AL East and get the #2 seed. The A's get the #1 seed because they have a 5-5 record vs the Yankees and a better intradivisional record (~57% vs ~56%). The Orioles play the WC game in Texas, and the A's play the winner of this game while the Yankees host the Tigers
    • If the Yankees lose and Orioles win The Yankees and Orioles tie for the AL East division lead, and play a one-game playoff to determine who has to play in the wild card game. This game would be played in Baltimore, because they have a better intradivisional record than the Yankees and the teams are 9-9 against each other this year. The loser of this game would host Texas in the wild card playoff game. If the Yankees win the division, they would get the #2 seed based on their record vs Oakland and their intradivisional records. If the Orioles win the division, Oakland would still get the #1 seed based on their 5-4 record vs the O's.

    I'm rooting for a Yankees lose/O's win scenario, just because we'd get bonus baseball.

    Berselius
    He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.
    Berselius

    44 Responses to “Playoff play-in chaos scenarios”

    1. Berselius 1 Berselius says:

      Final game lineup

      LF Campana
      2B Cardenas
      SS Castro
      1B LaHair
      RF Sappelt
      3B Vitters
      CF Jackkkkson
      C Recker
      P Wood

      Pretty fitting for the 2012 Cubs that 7 of those players are guys who belong in the minor leagues.

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    2. mb21 2 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      I agree. Campana and Cardenas are big-time MLB players. The rest? Not so much.

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    3. Suburban kid 3 Suburban kid says:

      @ mb21:
      I was going to say the two hot prospect ROY candidates Jackson and Vitters, but your suggestion works too. Really this team is stacked.

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    4. Berselius 4 Berselius says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      They have no chance, this is Edinson Volquez’s year.

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    5. josh 5 josh says:

      So I take it the Dodgers lost? Actually, I think I was listening to that game/sleeping last night.

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    6. josh 6 josh says:

      The AL is kind of exciting all around. I forgot that the O’s and Y’s were still duking it out for the division. It becomes do-or-die b/c you don’t want to get stuck playing that 1-gamer.

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    7. josh 7 josh says:

      I have never heard the term “play-in” till this year. I don’t like it.

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    8. mb21 8 mb21 says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      It’s really difficult to put into words just how stacked this team is. With a lineup like this, their future is bright.

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    9. mb21 9 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      That’s what it is. They keep saying there are 5 playoff teams in each league, but there aren’t. There are 4 playoff teams in each league just like last year. All Selig did was try to create the same kind of exciting final day to the 2011 season by forcing it to happen every year.

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    10. SVB 10 SVB says:

      @ josh:
      Play in is used for 2 of the 16th and 12th seeds in the NCAA hoops tournament. It whittles the field from 68-64, and previously for the last seed when the field was 65 teams.

      I like it, not that that matters.

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    11. SVB 11 SVB says:

      Berselius wrote:

      Pretty fitting for the 2012 Cubs that 7 of those players are guys who belong in the minor leagues.

      Only 7? Other than Castro, who is the major leaguer?

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    12. WaLi 13 WaLi says:

      @ SVB:
      I’m guessing Wood.

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    13. Berselius 14 Berselius says:

      SVB wrote:

      Play in is used for 2 of the 16th and 12th seeds in the NCAA hoops tournament. It allows more 8th place schools with big fanbases to get into the tournament to help ratings

      Fixed.

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    14. Berselius 15 Berselius says:

      I’m not a huge fan of the play-in game, but it says about as much as to who is the better team as the playoffs in general. It’s just one coin flip instead of a handful of them, so bring on the added excitement I guess.

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    15. SVB 17 SVB says:

      @ Berselius:
      That’s a great fix. I agree. I really don’t care about whether Seton Hall or St. Joseph’s gets into the tournament or not. I do like that all the small conferences are represented though, because I like the Hoosiers/underdog atmosphere of the tournament. And besides, with such a weak sport like basketball, any 3 guys can get hot for awhile, carry the other two, and upset some teams with more balanced talent. Isn’t that what the Bulls did for years?

      When I said I like “Play-in” I meant the phrase, which is what I thought Josh was referring to. But I LOVE the baseball play in. Win damnit. Win a division or face the music of sudden death.

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    16. EnricoPallazzo 18 EnricoPallazzo says:

      Berselius wrote:

      Pretty fitting for the 2012 Cubs that 7 of those players are guys who belong in the minor leagues.

      wait who is the other non-minor league player besides castro? sappelt’s been ok but he’s only had, what, 70 or 80 PAs. and i guess wood’s not that much worse than replacement level. not sure i’d really want either of these guys on a major league squad though…

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    17. Berselius 19 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      (dying laughing)

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    18. SVB 20 SVB says:

      Berselius wrote:

      SVB wrote:
      Play in is used for 2 of the 16th and 12th seeds in the NCAA hoops tournament. It allows the Big East to retain some semblance of relevance as a sports conference.

      Fixed

      Fixed better. ??

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    19. SVB 21 SVB says:

      @ mb21:
      What if is was a teaspoon of peanuts, instead of a small bag?

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    20. mb21 22 mb21 says:

      @ SVB:
      (dying laughing) I actually tried to find the cost per peanut, but I didn’t get very far. all the results were about peanut butter.

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    21. WaLi 23 WaLi says:

      You can get 48 / 1 oz bags for $15 on amazon.. That’s 31 cents / oz. There are ~ 28 g / oz. An individual peanut weighs about 1 g.. Therefore the price of a peanut is about 1.1 cents. So for the same price of a Cubs ticket, you can get about 8 peanuts. (dying laughing)

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    22. mb21 24 mb21 says:

      Not that it really matters to me, but isn’t MLB still blacking out local games? I don’t care about watching the Royals so it doesn’t matter to me one bit. Mostly, it never bothered me anyway. There were only a handful of games each year that I couldn’t see. The last 2-3 years it hasn’t bothered me at all since the Cubs have sucked. Still, it will be nice to know I can watch the Cubs on a Saturday afternoon on MLB Extra Innings.

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    23. WaLi 25 WaLi says:

      @ WaLi:
      That’s not even enough peanuts to field a baseball team!

      The Cubs haven’t fielded a baseball team this year yet so that seems about right.

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    24. EnricoPallazzo 26 EnricoPallazzo says:

      josh wrote:

      The AL is kind of exciting all around. I forgot that the O’s and Y’s were still duking it out for the division. It becomes do-or-die b/c you don’t want to get stuck playing that 1-gamer.

      i was thinking about this and it would almost be better if the o’s lost, played oakland in one game, and then played the yankees for the 5-game series. i mean not really but my point is i’d rather play NY for 5 games than texas or oakland. if the o’s lose, they’ll have a day off tomorrow. if the win, they face NY just to see who gets the WC spot and then they still have to play the WC game the next day if they lose to NY. i think i’d almost rather see them forego the one-game playoff (game 163, that is) so that they can be better rested for the 1-game WC playoff game. then, as i said, they’d likely play NY over a 5-game series which is way better then 5 games vs. texas.

      not sure if this makes any sense but this is one of the reasons why i was so against the added playoff spot – it’s just kind of pointless. there is enough action going on right now and adding this one game just makes the logistics more unreasonable and in my opinion adds nothing to the excitement level.

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    25. 27 gbts22 says:

      @ Berselius:
      If I showed up to this game today and saw Rizzo was out of the lineup, I’d ask for my 9 cents back.

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    26. josh 28 josh says:

      I meant the term itself “play-in.” I like the concept all right. did they make up a new term because saying that the two teams are playing off for the final spot makes it sound manipulative? It’s a 1-game playoff. I dont’ understand the etymology of the term.

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    27. josh 29 josh says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      I almost prefer a shorter season with a longer playoff period where more teams get in. Watching the Cubs and Astros play to see who sucks the most is the fucking worst.

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    28. mb21 30 mb21 says:

      gbts22 wrote:

      If I showed up to this game today and came to my senses, I’d ask for my 9 cents back.

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    29. mb21 31 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      I like the idea of 2 mini-seasons each year. Play 90 or 100 games each season (who doesn’t like more baseball?) and you have 2 champions each year. Then if you really want you could have those teams play each other.

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    30. mb21 32 mb21 says:

      You can find lists online for great things to buy for a dollar. We need to start one for things you can buy for 10 cents.

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    31. WaLi 33 WaLi says:

      @ mb21:
      10 pulls at a penny slot machine

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    32. Rice Cube 34 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:
      I raughed.

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    33. josh 35 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      Yeah, the 162 game season drags on, especially if your team isn’t very good. A shorter season would allow for more statistical variance (i.e., excitement) I would think. I know it’s not going to happen, too, and they probably shouldn’t because reasons.

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    34. josh 36 josh says:

      Carrie Muskat had a tweet where she said that Sori wants a shot at a WS ring before he retires.

      THEN WHY DIDN’T YOU TAKE THE TRADE TO THE GOD DAMN GIANTS!?

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    35. Mish 37 Mish says:

      @ josh:
      He wants to do it in a city that doesn’t hate Happy Meals.

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    36. josh 38 josh says:

      @ Mish:
      So, he’s jealous of Soto is what it boils down to.

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    37. mb21 39 mb21 says:

      josh wrote:

      THEN WHY DIDN’T YOU TAKE THE TRADE TO THE GOD DAMN GIANTS!?

      He had a chance and turned it down. Saying you want a chance at a championship after declining a trade to a contender is just stupid.

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    38. Suburban kid 40 Suburban kid says:

      What, no game thread?

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    39. Suburban kid 41 Suburban kid says:

      Bob wants to see Campana hit a home run, LaHair steal a base, and Wood throw a knuckleball. He “wants to have fun”.
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      .for the first time all year

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    40. Rice Cube 43 Rice Cube says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      If Campana hits a home run they should test him for steroids immediately after the game.

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    41. Suburban kid 44 Suburban kid says:

      Cubs lose.

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