The Cubs have completed a couple of trades already and we'll have more on tha ttomorrow. For now, the Cubs are still talking with teams about Matt Garza and they'll continue to try to trade Ryan Dempster as well. MLBTR has collected the most recent info for Garza.
Rosenthal says the Reds and Cubs are talking about a Matt Garza trade while Danny Knobler of CBS Sports says a deal with the Reds is unlikely. The Blue Jays are still interested and Jayson Stark says there's a "very high chance" he'll be traded. Along with the Blue Jays, Bruce Levine says the Rangers are interested.
How is that sleep coming for ya, mb?
Oh yeah, I’d much much much much much much much rather have Vizcaino than Delgado. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
snider to the buccos
@ BubbaBiscuit:
Not very well (dying laughing)
Once I saw GW blurt Vizcaino’s name out, that was it. I asked if he was randomly saying names in hopes he was so I could sleep.
@ mb21:
Agreed, if you only have one pull of the slot machine, would rather it be the $10 machine over the quarter machine.
Snider ———> Buccos
Lincoln ——–> Jays
Considering Hoyer’s comments there, I’m wondering if the Cubs keep one of Dempster or Garza. Sounds like they didn’t really want to trade Maholm, which means they’re probably going to keep one, right?
@ mb21:
That seems logical but I feel like he’s just talking up a pitcher to be a nice guy so I could still see them actively peddling both Garza and Dempster anyway.
Cash going with Geo, deal needs MLB approval
@ Rice Cube:
You’re probably right.
@ mb21:
I don’t see why it should matter. If he gets the deal he wants, they he moves them. The comment about Maholm seems to me that maybe he thought they could get more for him in the off-season then now, but the right deal came along now.
i don’t see Delgado as behind Vizcaino the way MB does but im still really happy.
@ BubbaBiscuit:
I was probably overthinking it and taking Hoyer too serious. RC is probably right in that he was just talking up Maholm.
(dying laughing)
@ dylanj:
Younger, more strikeouts, fewer walks, fewer home runs, fewer hits. This isn’t to knock Delgado who is a good prospect, but when you can get a guy who reaches the big leagues at age 20 and has a better than 4 to 1 K/BB ratio in the minor leagues you’re talking about a potentially awesome pitcher.
Signing maholm and Reed Johnson this offseason is looking like a stroke of genius. Probably less than 10 million commited to the two of them and it ends up turning into a top 40 prospect. Gives me some hope for what Camp could bring if coupled with Baker. Won’t be Vizcaino but might give us a legit talented prospect. Can’t wait to wake up to see what this team looks like in the morning.
@ Andrew:
I’m sure it’ll still look like a steaming pile of shit.
But it’ll be a steaming pile of shit with a slightly better future.
mb21 wrote:
i liked him more then julio teahren coming into ST. I am ecstatic. Good move to get Mahoom and turn him into a long term asset. ANd kudos to Paul for pitching his ass off for the past month to make him that marketable.
mb21 wrote:
I assume tomorrow the following are gone in order of likelihood
Dempster
Garza
Russell
Baker
Marmol
Soriano
LaHair.
I think at least 4 go bye bye
No wonder Dale was so anxious to get by thursday deadline. Literally the whole team could be moving
(dying laughing) i forgot about camp… (dying laughing)
@ mb21:
I think there seems no doubt that Vizcaino has the better stuff, but based on what ive read on twitter from braves fans (great source i know), there is some concern that hes not durable enough to start.
I still like him more than Delgado. It seems every pitcher gets TJ at some point and the recovery seems generally pretty solid. Vizcaino has the floor of a very good closer and the ceiling of an ace. Delgado seems like he will definitely be a number 3 guy nothing more nothing less. a good 3 is very valuable so thats not a knock on delgado but anybody thats major league ready with ace potential is moreso.
eric thames for steve delabar
league to the dodgers
Jays are putting Lincoln in the bullpen, so they could still be in for Garza.
Bowden says Texas not in on Garza.. Maybe he stays
@ Mercurial Outfielder:
interesting. delabar’s also a bullpen guy.
couple notes from law
“The price for Atlanta, however, was too high. I had Vizcaino ranked as the 14th-best prospect in baseball coming into 2012, ”
“Vizcaino alone is a tremendous return for what the Cubs gave up, a shot at a No. 2 or better starter in exchange for an extra outfielder and a pitcher anyone could have signed for $5 million last winter.”
“but the Cubs land the best prospect they’re likely to obtain in this year’s trade market in exchange for two players they didn’t need”
full article here
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/law_keith/id/8216730/analyzing-trade-braves-cubs-featured-paul-maholm-reed-johnson-arodys-vizcaino
(dying laughing)
@ Suburban kid:
WTF? Didn’t they just trade for him like a week ago? Did they not realize he sucked?
@ josh:
They didn’t realize they sucked.
I’m starting to have second thoughts about going to a Cubs game when I am in Chicago. (dying laughing)
From Keith Laws top 100 prospects blurbs on Randall Delgado his #98
On Vizcaino his #14 OVERALL prospect
This is a steal no matter how you cut it. The kid is still 21 years old and has absolutely dominated. It might also be good that he has already had TJS. Nowadays people are coming back stronger and better. Even if he never amounts to anything I really like the thought process of rolling the dice on a kid with an electric arm for a 5th starter and a 4th outfielder. Amazing deal IMO
@ Suburban kid:
On the plus side, SOMEONE has to win that game, which means someone has to have played relatively good baseball by default…
Zambrano —> bullpen
(dying laughing)
Bob Nightengale @BNightengale
Alfonso Soriano has informed the #Cubs which teams he would be traded to but no offer yet
I guess Peter Jackson is somehow making The Hobbit into three movies. I haven’t read the book but I saw that cartoon movie ages ago and I don’t remember it being three movies long (dying laughing)
@ WaLi:
One of them is going to be a musical compilation of all of Tolkien’s songs.
This is why I should watch Game of Thrones, right?
@ WaLi:
Oh dear god. I hope that’s not true.
@ WaLi:
I’d heard two, though that’s still one movie too long. I am kinda glad that it looks more adult in tone than the book, though.
@ Perkins:
I thought that too. Still looked a little overwrought. I liked LOTR okay, but a couple of moments dragged on with EMOTION.
http://www.csnchicago.com/baseball-chicago-cubs/cubs-news/Kaplan-Trio-of-suitors-for-Dempster?blockID=748937&feedID=8487
Yankees, Rangers, and Dodgers reportedly in on Dempster. Supposedly he’ll agree to trade to any of them.
kap still carrying the water for the org.
edited for too slow
@ josh:
Yeah, Peter Jackson announced yesterday that The Hobbit will be three movies….seems like stretching it to me, but I’ll still see them
From Peter-
“So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of “The Hobbit” films, I’d like to announce that two films will become three. “
Bubbs is a happy chimp
@ mikeakaleroy:
Well WTF. There’s some good stuff in Unfinished Tales and the LOTR appendices, but I still don’t see how you get three films out of that. Other than the fact that they’ll make a ton of money, anyway.
@ Perkins:
You film every single second of the books, including songs, and add a bunch of bullshit from “after” LOTR so that Elijah Wood gets to be on the payroll. Then you add dramatic music and slow pans.
@ Perkins:
And you may have hit it with the money aspect…
From the rest of Jackson’s statement:
@ Perkins:
tom bombadil?
@ GW:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I’d pay good money to see the Downfall of Numenor or the events of the First Age on screen. As long as Peter Jackson isn’t allowed to screw up the characters like he did in LOTR.
@ GW:
That’s probably best left to the books. I think that whole section would be like a bad acid trip for a casual fan. (dying laughing)
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/19694682/cubs-talking-to-rangers-and-2-others-about-garza-deal-but-could-keep-him
rangers and two other teams for garza
Well looks like adolfo is going to stay.. I am ok with that
Rice Cube wrote:
It’s like you’re in my mind circa August 2006.
new shit up