Suddenly this afternoon, Jon Heyman’s Twitter feed was full of figures reflecting various arbitration-eligible players’ salary requests and their teams’ starting offers.
The teams will have until sometime in early to mid-February to come to agreements and avoid the actual arbitration hearing. The arbitration cases can take place anywhere from February 1 to February 21 and a settlement can be agreed upon at any time before the hearing starts. Once the hearing starts, the arbitrators decide if the player gets the full amount he desires, or only the amount the team has offered. There is no middle ground once the arbitration case begins.
So let the negotiating begin!
Right now, the only figures relating to the Cubs are those of Matt Garza. He submitted a salary of $10.225 million and the Cubs submitted a figure of $7.95 million. That’s is not terribly far apart, so I expect something will get done.
In years’ past, we knew Hendry hated going to arbitration with players, and to the best of my memory only did so with Ryan Theriot. At this point, I have no idea what the histories of Theo or Hoyer are in regards to arbitration hearings for their players. I’ll have to look into that.
What makes me confident is that Clayton Kershaw submitted a figure of $10 million and the Dodgers submitted $6.5 million. Now, I love Matt Garza’s abilities, but he is no Clayton Kershaw and the best Kershaw can do is less than Garza’s request.
Here are the rest of Heyman’s tweets as of this writing:
UPDATE:
Carrie Muskat tweets many arb-eligible Cubs have agreed to terms:
DeWitt signed for $1.1 million; Soto $4.3 million; Stewart $2.237 mill; Baker $1.375 mill; Wells $2.705; Volstad $2.655 million.
So. Fucking. Good. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/1/13/2702190/tim-tebow-nfl-playoffs-2012-denver-broncos-haters-gonna-hate
Read about the house of fucking lies Tebow’s “underdog” story is built on and tell me again how he’ s a good guy.
Garza is going to get expensive, quickly. I’d be surprised if he isn’t dealt by the end of ST.
You filed at $21.5 with the Giants?
The Cubs and Soto agreed at $4.3 million.
[quote name=mb21]The Cubs and Soto agreed at $4.3 million.[/quote]Rob G. is angry with you.
Kershaw is first year is arbitration eligible whereas this is Garza’s 3rd trip through. If Kershaw was up for his 3rd time those figures would be double what they are.
My guess is the Cubs and Garza split the difference and he gets roughly $9 million. The Cubs don’t want this to go to arbitration because if Garza wins then his salary in 2013 would be increased as well.
[quote name=Suburban kid]You filed at $21.5 with the Giants?[/quote]I’m totally worth it.
[quote name=Suburban kid]You filed at $21.5 with the Giants?[/quote]Our comment message never lies.
[quote name=Aisle424]I’m totally worth it.[/quote]{Insert Loreal gif here.}.
Not only is he not an underdog, he’s the fucking Antichrist.
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/could-tim-tebow-really-just-be-the-antichrist/
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]Not only is he not an underdog, he’s the fucking Antichrist.
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/could-tim-tebow-really-just-be-the-antichrist//quote(dying laughing)
[quote name=Aisle424]I’m totally worth it.[/quote]
[quote name=GBTS]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPR9bI1qDxA[/quote]Needs more glitter.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Needs more glitter.[/quote]
[quote name=Suburban kid]
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Post updated with other signings, per Carrie Muskat.
(dying laughing)
Hey man, it was the best
least disturbingthing that came up searching images of whore glitter.Am I wrong to think 2.65 mil for Volstad is steep?
[quote name=Suburban kid](dying laughing)
Hey man, it was the best
least disturbingthing that came up searching images of whore glitter.[/quote](dying laughing)[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Am I wrong to think 2.65 mil for Volstad is steep?[/quote]No. I think $480K is steep for him, but that’s what Swartz projected.
I’ll have a rundown of these signings sometime tomorrow. Is Garza the only arb eligible player to not sign?
[quote name=mb21]No. I think $480K is steep for him, but that’s what Swartz projected.
I’ll have a rundown of these signings sometime tomorrow. Is Garza the only arb eligible player to not sign?[/quote]As long as you don’t count the auto-renewals.
The auto-renewals are either renewed or not. They make an insignificant amount of money that it’s not worth much consideration to be honest.
Color me a bit surprised that Volstad and Wells got as much as they did. Drop in the bucket, but still.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Color me a bit surprised that Volstad and Wells got as much as they did. Drop in the bucket, but still.[/quote]Agreed. Not a lot of money, but still seems like overpaying.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Color me a bit surprised that Volstad and Wells got as much as they did. Drop in the bucket, but still.[/quote]
Didn’t Berselius predict that’s what they would get with the 40/60/80 guideline?
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]Didn’t Berselius copy what mb wrote about Matt Swartz’s predictions that’s what they would get with the 40/60/80 guideline?[/quote]
fixed
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]Didn’t Berselius predict that’s what they would get with the 40/60/80 guideline?[/quote]Probably. I don’t read every post (dying laughing)
Or I read them and then forget.
/no dinner
[quote name=Rice Cube]Probably. I don’t read every post (dying laughing)
Or I read them and then forget.
/no Taxi[/quote]
/New Cub Way’d
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]/New Cub Way’d[/quote]Thank goodness for the CTA.
I just realized that once again it was a player who broke news about the Cubs interest in a player (Cespedes). The Chicago media fucking sucks.
[quote name=mb21]I just realized that once again it was a player who broke news about the Cubs interest in a player (Cespedes). The Chicago media fucking sucks.[/quote]I don’t think they can afford to send Bruce Levine to the Dominican every few days to get this type of news though, so in this case I think the Latin American reporters had a bit of an advantage (dying laughing)
Regardless of why, it’s hilarious that this continues to happen. I don’t even know why the Tribune, Sun Times, and Daily Herald employ the Cubs writers they do. I can provide as much information as they do and I could actually do it on time. (dying laughing)
I very much enjoy your new comment submission message. Is Aisley taking the Giants all the way to arbitration?
I want to see the new message.
[quote name=mb21]Regardless of why, it’s hilarious that this continues to happen. I don’t even know why the Tribune, Sun Times, and Daily Herald employ the Cubs writers they do. I can provide as much information as they do and I could actually do it on time. (dying laughing)[/quote]
And you do it while in your mother’s basement drinking Code Red. That has to count for extra.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]
Read about the house of fucking lies Tebow’s “underdog” story is built on and tell me again how he’ s a good guy.[/quote]
I dunno, MO. I don’t see it. Most of that article seems a response to the coverage of Tebow, which, admittedly, is probably grating if one gives a shit; I don’t. It’s not like tebow is a singular interruption in espn’s otherwise heady lineup. TV sports coverage almost uniformly consists of bloviating gasbags searching for content.
I’ve not seen that “frs health energy” commercial before (nor have i even heard of that brand), and it’s clearly overly dramatic, but it’s not like Tebow wrote the copy. If he agrees with every word (a possibility), it just makes him delusional, which would place him in the company of just about every other highly paid athlete in the country. I certainly wouldn’t characterize it as a house of lies. Moreover, if an NFL quarterback who can’t pass isn’t an underdog, then I don’t know who is.
[quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]I want to see the new message and I’m a huge vagina face.[/quote].
(dying laughing)
[quote name=Mish].[/quote]
Shouldn’t you be making your cliche “Latinos and baseball” jokes?
And I guess that would make at least one of us that actually knows what a vagina looks like.
I’ll post more tomorrow, but using 40/60/80 for arb values and the CAIRO projections, here’s what I get for the ones who signed a contract today:
Player PA/IP WAR $$$
DeWitt 327 1.1 3.3
Soto 399 2.3 6.9
Stewart 338 1 3
Baker 228 0.7 2.1
Wells 119 1.2 2.4
Volstad 114 0.8 1.6
[quote name=GW]I dunno, MO. I don’t see it. Most of that article seems a response to the coverage of Tebow, which, admittedly, is probably grating if one gives a shit; I don’t. It’s not like tebow is a singular interruption in espn’s otherwise heady lineup. TV sports coverage almost uniformly consists of bloviating gasbags searching for content.
I’ve not seen that “frs health energy” commercial before (nor have i even heard of that brand), and it’s clearly overly dramatic, but it’s not like Tebow wrote the copy. If he agrees with every word (a possibility), it just makes him delusional, which would place him in the company of just about every other highly paid athlete in the country. I certainly wouldn’t characterize it as a house of lies. Moreover, if an NFL quarterback who can’t pass isn’t an underdog, then I don’t know who is.[/quote]I didn’t read the article because I couldn’t care less about the whole Tebow shit, but I agree with what you say here. Especially the part I highlighted.
Hey MO, did you hear the Raiders have requested permission to interview Tice for its head coaching job?
This may screw up the already backwards operation of hiring new coaching and FO personnel.
[quote name=GW]I dunno, MO. I don’t see it. Most of that article seems a response to the coverage of Tebow, which, admittedly, is probably grating if one gives a shit; I don’t. It’s not like tebow is a singular interruption in espn’s otherwise heady lineup. TV sports coverage almost uniformly consists of bloviating gasbags searching for content.
I’ve not seen that “frs health energy” commercial before (nor have i even heard of that brand), and it’s clearly overly dramatic, but it’s not like Tebow wrote the copy. If he agrees with every word (a possibility), it just makes him delusional, which would place him in the company of just about every other highly paid athlete in the country. I certainly wouldn’t characterize it as a house of lies. Moreover, if an NFL quarterback who can’t pass isn’t an underdog, then I don’t know who is.[/quote]
yes, 1000x this
[quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]Hey MO, did you hear the Raiders have requested permission to interview Tice for its head coaching job?
[/quote]
please let this happen.
I think at this point it’s best to rid ourselves of Soto and Garza. The Sawx could really use a decent catcher. I wonder if we could get a bunch of guys for both?
Wellington Castillo is about ready to take over in the ML anyway. Garza and Soto are close to the end of the ‘peak years’. Wells is cooked and DeWitt and Baker are platoons/back-ups. Why bother?
Cubs Den is reporting via a Gail Fischer tweet that Sean Marshall is interested in returning to the Cubs when he becomes a FA.
Just finished the 1st season of Treme, I’m really hooked. A bit more high-context (you have to have visited New Orleans a few times/know some stuff about it to get everything that’s going on), and more character focused with several plot-lines, but I’m eager to watch season 2 to see where it goes. David Simon just writes damn good television.
Some late night CSN shit:
Larry Lucchino calls in Bud to settle Theo compensation:
http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/cubs-talk/post/Selig-to-settle-Theo-compensation-drama?blockID=633284&feedID=10336
KWood’s backup team was…the White Sox:
http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/cubs-talk/post/Were-the-White-Sox-Kerry-Woods-fallback-?blockID=633220&feedID=10336
And Joe Fucking Lemire hearts Theo:
http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/cubs-talk/post/SIs-Joe-Lemire-on-Theo-Cubs?blockID=633218&feedID=10336
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15865
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]So. Fucking. Good. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/1/13/2702190/tim-tebow-nfl-playoffs-2012-denver-broncos-haters-gonna-hate
Read about the house of fucking lies Tebow’s “underdog” story is built on and tell me again how he’ s a good guy.[/quote]
“They said I couldn’t be a high school QB”
Because you didn’t go to high school?
“They said I couldn’t get a D1 scholarship”
Is that why Rivals gave you a five-star ranking as a recruit?
I don’t dislike Tebow at all, but I’m not sure where all this underdog bullshit came from.
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]“They said I couldn’t be a high school QB”
Because you didn’t go to high school?
“They said I couldn’t get a D1 scholarship”
Is that why Rivals gave you a five-star ranking as a recruit?
I don’t dislike Tebow at all, but I’m not sure where all this underdog bullshit came from.[/quote]He actually didn’t go to high school (dying laughing)
Yeah I have never heard this underdog shit before. This guys argument is stupid. “I watch way too much ESPN and all they talk about is Tebow so I hate Tebow”
Here’s your solution: STOP WATCHING ESPN. Your life will be better.
/haven’t watched a non-sports broadcast on ESPN since 2006.
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]
And Joe Fucking Lemire hearts Theo:
http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/cubs-talk/post/SIs-Joe-Lemire-on-Theo-Cubs?blockID=633218&feedID=10336/quote
Ian Stewart = David Ortiz (dying laughing)
How many arb players are left to sign? Just Garza?
In fairness to the local media if I were the new President/GM and these were the ass-clowns covering me I wouldn’t throw them a bone either.
[quote name=Mucker]How many arb players are left to sign? Just Garza?[/quote]yes and i highly doubt they go to arb.
[quote name=Mucker]How many arb players are left to sign? Just Garza?[/quote]BUZZ!!!! Correct.
[quote name=JMan]In fairness to the local media if I were the new President/GM and these were the ass-clowns covering me I wouldn’t throw them a bone either.[/quote]I wouldn’t either. I just think it’s hilarious. There are two things that beat writers are useful for. The first is their access to the players. Only Carrie Muskat does a decent job at that and I think she does a really good job. The other thing is inside information they can pass along and all of them have sucked at that for a very long time. Now they have none.
Best GIF about SOPA/PIPA is also thinking about cats.
Also, I thoroughly enjoyed Justified yesterday.
[quote name=Mish]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15865[/quote]
[quote name=Suburban kid]
[/quote]It’s 5 am give me a break. (dying laughing)
[quote name=Mish]It’s 5 am give me a break. (dying laughing)[/quote](dying laughing)
[quote name=mb21]Our comment message never lies.[/quote]I finally got this. (dying laughing)
[quote name=Suburban kid]I finally got this. (dying laughing)[/quote]I think you’re the only one so you’re super smrt.
[quote name=Mish]Best GIF about SOPA/PIPA is also thinking about cats.
[/quote]
I love how Mish explains the GIF that explains itself, but not the link (dying laughing)
[quote name=WaLi]I love how Mish explains the GIF that explains itself, but not the link (dying laughing)[/quote]I aim to confound.
[quote name=Mish]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15865[/quote]I’m not paying.
So, this is happening:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/epstein-compensation-in-seligs-hands.html
What does Bud Selig give to the Red Sox? I wonder if he just leaves it at cash considerations because this isn’t a lateral move and he doesn’t want to set a bad precedent.
[quote name=Rice Cube]So, this is happening:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/epstein-compensation-in-seligs-hands.html
What does Bud Selig give to the Red Sox? I wonder if he just leaves it at cash considerations because this isn’t a lateral move and he doesn’t want to set a bad precedent.[/quote]What can he do? Theo is already working for the Cubs. Maybe Theo saw the mess here and won’t agree to compensation so he can be sent back to the Sox
Heh, since Wikipedia is down, Tripping Olney is answering everyone’s questions about everything. http://twitter.com/TrippingOlney
[quote name=WaLi]What can he do? Theo is already working for the Cubs. Maybe Theo saw the mess here and won’t agree to compensation so he can be sent back to the Sox[/quote]While that would be mildly amusing, I don’t think Theo can actually go back to Boston. I also feel like MLB will low-ball the Red Sox if it’s gone this far.
Why do the Cubs have 41 players on their 40-man roster? http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc
[quote name=mb21]Why do the Cubs have 41 players on their 40-man roster? http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc/quote
Theo is a miracle worker. Praise be to Theo.
[quote name=mb21]Why do the Cubs have 41 players on their 40-man roster? http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc/quoteI was wondering that the other day but thought I had miscounted. Maybe one of them is there as Boston’s compensation.
Or they’ve removed one guy but forgot to tell the webmaster.
[quote name=mb21]Why do the Cubs have 41 players on their 40-man roster? http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc/quoteThese guys don’t look so fucking good.
[quote name=mb21]Why do the Cubs have 41 players on their 40-man roster? http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc/quote
Maybe MLB has only counting been counting guys that are deserving of being on a 40 man roster?
[quote name=shawndgoldman]Maybe MLB has only counting been counting guys that are deserving of being on a 40 man roster?[/quote]So shouldn’t there only be about 5 guys on the 40 man roster then?
new shit: http://www.obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/cubs-sign-6-of-7-arbitration-eligible-players.html
[quote name=Mucker]So shouldn’t there only be about 5 guys on the 40 man roster then?[/quote]
Right. They’re well under the limit.