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  • Daily Facepalm 2.15.12

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    Jorge Soler a Cub, then Jorge Soler not a Cub

    Reports that the Cubs had signed Jorge Soler yesterday proved to be premature. Could he be signed today? It could go either way. The Yankees have been added to the mix of interested teams, but given how this offseason has played out I'm betting on Mystery Team

    Cubs transactions MB21 recently enjoyed

    In the midst of yesterday's argument about whether the rumored Soler deal was worth it, we were reminded that MB does not seethe at every move the Cubs make. Let's not forget that the Sean Marshall and Andrew Cashner trades were pretty good, as well as signing Reed and DeJesus. We don't hate everything around here (laughing). Just Mish.

    Is there a Cubs game today?

    No.

    News in pitchers that I thought the Cubs had already signed

    The Cubs are interested in bringing Ramon Ortiz back to be the eleventh starter. Honestly I thought the Cubs had already signed him, but in my defense it's easy to mix him up with Andy Sonnanstine, Ryan Rowland-Smith, Casey Coleman, and Rodrigo Lopez.

    This week in stellar Chicago media

    The local NBC picked up an unconfirmed rumor "from Wrigleyville" that the Cubs were maybe thinking about playing at The Cell next year during Wrigley renovations. The Cubs denied the rumor. No word on the shirt color of NBC's source. I am disappointed that this didn't come from a certain ABC morning show, or Tribune Tower.

    If the Cubs do need to clear out for a season (or at least a non-trivial chunk of time) it's pretty obvious that the Cell is where they need to go. How many fans, especially STH are going to schlep up to Milwaukee for 81 games? It's not bad to do for a single Brewers series but if they're already having trouble drawing fans for Wednesday Pirates-Cubs games, how many do you think would turn up if you add an hour or so drive (if there's no traffic) with no public transportation or Wrigleyville bar scene to the mix? It would be a disaster. Not to mention that the idea the Cubs would be ready for major renovations one year from now given the number of permits/kickbacks/paperwork they'll have to get through with the city.

    Woodworking products Koyie Hill wishes he recently enjoyed

    I'm too dumb to figure out how to embed this video, so here's the link (Don't be so hard on yourself, Bersy)

    The Colbert Report Mon – Thurs 11:30pm / 10:30c
    People Who Are Destroying America – SawStop
    www.colbertnation.com
    Colbert Report Full Episodes Political Humor & Satire Blog Video Archive

    Cubs org meetings begin today in Mesa

    Per Carrie Muskat the Cubs organizational meetings begin today. Usually these take place not long after the World Series but the org chart was a little unsettled this offseason.  Also per Muskat the Cubs are waiting with bated breath to see if they can keep Blakey.

    Pitchers and Catchers report in 3 days

    The official start day is Saturday. We can all get excited for 5 minutes before we realize that real baseball is still over a month away.

    Fewer Noon games this year, presumably

    FOX is moving many of its Saturday games to primetime, which means that there should be fewer noon starts caused by the national blackout worked into FOX's MLB deal. I'm guessing the blackout restriction is waived in these cases, because there's no way the 20+ other teams that play on Saturday nights are going to move those games.

    Berselius
    He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.
    Berselius

    69 Responses to “Daily Facepalm 2.15.12”

    1. Suburban kid 1 Suburban kid says:

      The Cubs are interested in bringing Ramon Ortiz back to be the eleventh starter. Honestly I thought the Cubs had already signed him, but in my defense it’s easy to mix him up with Andy Sonnanstine, Ryan Rowland-Smith, Casey Coleman, and Rodrigo Lopez.

      Don’t forget Trever Miller.

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    2. Mish 2 Mish says:

      You guys are assholes.

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    3. 3 AndCounting says:

      All your embed are belong to us, b.

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    4. Suburban kid 5 Suburban kid says:

      By the way, if anyone wants the link for buying bleacher season tickets (you use the same ticket buying interface as regular tickets, but just pay a deposit at this stage), let me know. I’m not going to be using it.

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    5. 6 AndCounting says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      You’re just offering this up to anyone? To anyone? I was told nothing like this would every happen again.

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    6. Rice Cube 7 Rice Cube says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      I always thought there were walkways that allowed passage between the bleachers and the bowl, but since they go in through separate entrances perhaps the seat nazi who told me the tale of free passage was mistaken. Whoever takes this deal may be stuck in the bleachers for a wee bit before they will be allowed to relocate.

      I wonder why they don’t sell PSLs at Wrigley?

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    7. Berselius 8 Berselius says:

      AndCounting wrote:

      All your embed are belong to us, b.

      Thanks, AC.

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    8. Berselius 9 Berselius says:

      Suburban kid wrote:

      By the way, if anyone wants the link for buying bleacher season tickets (you use the same ticket buying interface as regular tickets, but just pay a deposit at this stage), let me know. I’m not going to be using it.

      If you can get me a job in Chicago and some money, I’m in.

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    9. Berselius 10 Berselius says:

      I added a few new tidbits to the post.

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    10. Suburban kid 11 Suburban kid says:

      It also will let you buy up to 8 bleacher season tickets.

      They must be hoping scalpers go for this deal.

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    11. Berselius 12 Berselius says:

      @ Suburban kid:

      They’re just holding out for that customer that has piles of money and a large family and thinks that the best way to watch Cubs games is a mile away while surrounded by drunk Chads and Trixies.

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    12. josh 13 josh says:

      Blake DeWitt should be the compensation to the Sox, along with a photocopy of Bud Selig’s ass.

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    13. Dr. Aneus Taint 14 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      Corey Patterson?

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    14. Dr. Aneus Taint 15 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    15. Dr. Aneus Taint 16 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    16. Suburban kid 17 Suburban kid says:

      Its funny how “bleacher season tickets” went from something owned only by an “elite” minority of olden-day bleacher bums, totally unavailable to anyone else but those chosen few, to something the Cubs are pushing out in wads of up to eight at a time while apologizing for them not being good seats.

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    17. Berselius 18 Berselius says:

      @ Dr. Aneus Taint:
      Win

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    18. 19 AndCounting says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      If this doesn’t send Alvin on a murderous rampage, nothing will.

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    19. Rice Cube 20 Rice Cube says:

      @ Dr. Aneus Taint:
      I think that was the top “bad swing” on the list and it was Jonathan Herrera.

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    20. mb21 21 mb21 says:

      @ Dr. Aneus Taint:
      He always liked those eye high fastballs.

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    21. Rice Cube 22 Rice Cube says:

      After a few inquiries, it has been confirmed that indeed, one cannot access the bowl with a bleachers ticket and vice versa as the Cubs have put up a force field between the two sections of park.

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    22. Rice Cube 23 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      I guess he had to try to protect the runner, and therefore he can sort of be excused for such a terrible swing. I did (dying laughing) though.

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    23. Aisle424 24 Aisle424 says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      I wonder why they don’t sell PSLs at Wrigley?

      Because the team was so bad by the time it became an option for the Ricketts, there was no way it would fly.

      It would also be the first baseball stadium to sell PSLs for a stadium (or part of a stadium) that wasn’t newly built or refurbished. I did this post over on the old site that goes into more detail.

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    24. Suburban kid 25 Suburban kid says:

      Nobody called it the fucking “bowl” until Wally Hayward Jablowme came to town.

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    25. Aisle424 26 Aisle424 says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      After a few inquiries, it has been confirmed that indeed, one cannot access the bowl with a bleachers ticket and vice versa as the Cubs have put up a force field between the two sections of park.

      That’s what I thought. It seemed to be a security nightmare otherwise. I think they started screening it off because they didn’t want people buying cheap bleacher seats and sneaking into the bowl. Now I think it is probably reversed.

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    26. Berselius 27 Berselius says:

      FOX moving many Saturday games to prime time.

      I guess this means fewer noon starts, and that they’re relaxing the Saturday blackout restrictions on those games.

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    27. Aisle424 28 Aisle424 says:

      Suburban kid wrote:

      Nobody called it the fucking “bowl” until Wally Hayward Jablowme came to town.

      I use it because it is easier than typing “grandstand.”

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    28. Rice Cube 29 Rice Cube says:

      MLBTR out of options list:

      Cubs

      Marcos Mateo, Jeff Samardzija, Geovany Soto, Bryan LaHair

      I knew about Samardzija and LaHair but wasn’t aware about Soto.

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    29. Suburban kid 30 Suburban kid says:

      If I had a bowl shaped like that, shit would spill out before I could eat any of it.

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    30. josh 31 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      Every team but the Cubs? I wish the Cubs would play more primetime games, honestly.

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    31. Rice Cube 32 Rice Cube says:

      Aisle424 wrote:

      I use it because it is easier than typing “grandstand.”

      That, and Cubs.com said it’s a bowl (dying laughing)

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    32. mb21 33 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Why would you guess that? I know the games that were on here at 6pm last year were blacked out on MLB.tv or Extra Innings.

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    33. Suburban kid 34 Suburban kid says:

      Suburban kid wrote:

      If I had a bowl shaped like that, shit would spill out before I could flush it.

      .

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    34. mb21 35 mb21 says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      Replying to yourself now? (dying laughing)

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    35. Berselius 36 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:
      I used the wrong word. I’m sure there will still be blackouts if FOX isn’t showing the game you want locally. FOX negotiated an exclusivity window where their games were the only ones scheduled to be on the air. Their games ran ~3:30 to 7, so the only other times you could start if you weren’t on FOX were noon or after 7.

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    36. mb21 37 mb21 says:

      @ mb21:
      It appears he is.

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    37. mb21 38 mb21 says:

      @ mb21:
      It’s just the one comment, mb21.

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    38. josh 39 josh says:

      @ josh:
      I’d like to see a few games on TV instead of always having to listen to them on the radio.

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    39. Berselius 40 Berselius says:

      @ josh:
      I’m trying to decide if I want to shell out for mlb.tv again. Somehow I feel like the 20% or so of games on WGN-tv will probably be enough video for this likely awful season.

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    40. josh 41 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      Yeah, I wouldn’t unless you have a backup team you want to follow.

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    41. Berselius 42 Berselius says:

      @ Berselius:

      Unless MB, Aisley, and AC want to buy it for me for the sake of the blog. I generally get several posts a year out of bitching about MLB.tv’s shitty customer service, advertising, and horrible product launches (dying laughing)

      /AlsoRepliesToSelf

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    42. Rice Cube 43 Rice Cube says:

      MLBTR says Olney sez Phillies and Yankees are in on Soler. Not sure if serious.

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    43. mb21 44 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I’ve read the Yankees are making a big push for Soler.

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    44. mb21 45 mb21 says:

      @ mb21:
      I’m guessing Soler ends up in New York.

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    45. GBTS 46 GBTS says:

      I’ll bite and say I don’t get the raven pic.

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    46. josh 47 josh says:

      @ GBTS:
      A group of crows is called a “murder.” This is not quite a group.

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    47. Rice Cube 48 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      That was a vernacular lesson I recently enjoyed.

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    48. josh 49 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      More vocabulary than vernacular.

      \semantics

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    49. GBTS 50 GBTS says:

      @ josh:
      You guys are smrt.

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    50. 51 AndCounting says:

      @ Aisle424:
      If the Cubs did relocate to anywhere for a year, you can pretty much bet the PSLs would go into effect immediately following, and that’s how they would make up any revenue lost while they played in the Cell or Milwaukee or Bolivia.

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    51. Mish 52 Mish says:

      Aside from obviously the Rays, I am getting mlb.tv again because I want to watch some quality baseball this season. Neither of the local teams seem intent on providing that to me.

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    52. Rice Cube 53 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      Would Soler’s contract count against their luxury tax, or just if he’s at MLB level? I assume he’d have to spend a year or so in the minors.

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    53. Aisle424 54 Aisle424 says:


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    54. josh 56 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      But the Red Sox are on top, and now we have the guy who oversaw that.

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    55. Berselius 57 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      So does this mean the Rays are now #6org?

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    56. Rice Cube 58 Rice Cube says:

      @ Berselius:
      I think the Rays would be #5org while the Tigers are #6org if you are just referencing that list. I forgot what criteria they used originally to say that the Mariners were #6org though.

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    57. WaLi 59 WaLi says:

      @ josh:
      Right. With theo @ 4.36 WAR / player, that brings up the whole over 10 years 1st round draft picks are only worth (enter WAR amount here, I forget) figure that MB was using.
      I mean if we use Theo as a basis of comparison with what 1st round talent should do instead of the whole league (which includes the atrocious Cubs and Mariners), wouldn’t we get a better understanding of what value we can expect from Concepcion/Soler?

      Does that make sense at all? I mean there seems to be more than just luck to drafting.

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    58. Rice Cube 60 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      It’s like trading in a Toyota Tercel for a Lamborghini.

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    59. Mish 61 Mish says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Stupid criteria. I still (dying laughing) at Cameron (was it him) ranking them as #6.

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    60. GW 62 GW says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      It’s like trading in a Toyota Tercel for a Lamborghini.

      And finding out a universal 35mph speed limit has been enacted

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    61. Rice Cube 63 Rice Cube says:

      GW wrote:

      And finding out a universal 35mph speed limit has been enacted

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    62. Rice Cube 64 Rice Cube says:

      @ GW:
      Although they could still go 5-10 mph over the limit and the cops might not care…

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    63. mb21 65 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      If he’s on the 40-man roster then it counts toward the luxury tax. The Cubs are nowhere near that point though.

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    64. Rice Cube 66 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      I was more referring to the Yankees as they are fairly obviously trying to trim payroll (i.e. AJ Burnett trade possibility) and adding a guy like Soler seems counter to that plan.

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    65. Berselius 67 Berselius says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      @ mb21:
      I was more referring to the Yankees as they are fairly obviously trying to trim payroll (i.e. AJ Burnett trade possibility) and adding a guy like Soler seems counter to that plan.

      I don’t think the Luxury tax is going to be a big concern if they go after Soler. Moving Burnett is more due to the fact that he’s deadweight on the roster, any payroll savings they get is gravy. IIRC the rumors had the Yankees sending something like 70% of his salary in a trade.

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    66. josh 69 josh says:

      @ WaLi:
      Exactly. Even if there is a speed limit, as someone suggested, the non-luck component of the draft will increase the minor leagues, long-term, and everyone has the speed limit. My guess is that the disparity will decrease somewhat, but there is still going to be an edge to be had.

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