The Cubs are reportedly close to signing Doug Davis to a minor league deal. Davis has been considerably better throughout his career than most people realize. Baseball Reference uses Rally’s WAR calculation and has him at nearly 22 rWAR. Fangraphs has him at 23.5 fWAR. Last season he threw only 38.1 innings in the big leagues for the Brewers. He threw a small number of innings in the minor leagues as well, but had to miss most of the year because of a condition with his heart. He also had surgery on his elbow.
This is only a minor league deal and the truth is that if Doug Davis can return to the form he showed from 2003 to 2009, he’s a pretty good pick up for this team. His career FIP is basically league average (4.43). The ERA is also about league average and the same with xFIP. This is his age 35 season and he’s coming back from surgery and complications with his heart so even expecting him to be average is a stretch.
Marcel and ZiPS each projected a 4.42 FIP from Davis this season. If Wells and Cashner return on time, Davis is nothing more than depth. If one has a setback, Davis could see action with the Cubs. I know I’ve underrated Davis over the years and still have trouble figuring out how the ridiculously boring and time consuming Davis has given the Cubs so much trouble over the years. Only the A’s and Nationals have hit Davis worse than the Cubs have over his career. The A’s and Nationals faced Davis 9 different times while the Cubs have faced him 18 different times in the regular season.
Davis doesn’t turn this team into contenders, but for a team that thinks they are, this is about as solid a pick-up the team could have made for presumably little money.
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Soooo… Kind of like the White Carlos Silva?
Sans insanity, of course.
Well, this sure as hell beats Ramon Ortiz. And is better than a Jeff Russell, Jeff Stevens, Marcos Mateo combo too.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Sammy Fuld is…..
fundamentally sound
a throwback
gutsy
hustles
OK we get it, he’s a white guy
by Kooter on Apr 12, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions
I’ll flag this one myself.
[/quote]Good work, Al! Phew, my precious Caucasian sensibilities were almost stung by that racist banter!
Maybe it’s because the Marcel tag was right below it, but I originally read that as “presumably little monkey.”
It’s too bad the Cubs were so set on getting rid of Gorzelanny. He would have come in handy right about now.
Calcaterra with Len:
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/12/hbt-daily-talkin-cubs-with-len-kasper/
[quote name=melissa]It’s too bad the Cubs were so set on getting rid of Gorzelanny. He would have come in handy right about now.[/quote]
Correct.
[quote name=melissa]It’s too bad the Cubs were so set on getting rid of Gorzelanny. He would have come in handy right about now.[/quote]
I was annoyed that they traded Gorzelanny too. But, after the Garza trade it was kind of inevitable. Don’t forget that when the trade was made there was supposedly tons of pitching depth with Wells, Silva, Coleman, Jay Jackson, and Cashner all fighting for the 4th and 5th spots.
Silva being even worse than expected and Jackson getting hurt make it seem worse.
Burgess already has 4 HR in A+. If he turns into a legit prospect, the trade will have been a good one.
Josh Vitters hit a home run yesterday.
Michael Burgess hit his fourth. Why isn’t he at AA again?
[quote name=Hector Villanueva ]I was annoyed that they traded Gorzelanny too. But, after the Garza trade it was kind of inevitable. Don’t forget that when the trade was made there was supposedly tons of pitching depth with Wells, Silva, Coleman, Jay Jackson, and Cashner all fighting for the 4th and 5th spots.
Silva being even worse than expected and Jackson getting hurt make it seem worse.
Burgess already has 4 HR in A+. If he turns into a legit prospect, the trade will have been a good one.[/quote]Isn’t Burgess a pitcher?
[quote name=Brad at Cubs Stats]Isn’t Burgess a pitcher?[/quote]
Methunk he was an OF.
[quote name=Brad at Cubs Stats]Isn’t Burgess a pitcher?[/quote]Oh, nm. I was thinking of the throw-in pitcher from the Garza trade. Didn’t realize we were talking the Gorzo trade.
[quote name=BWoodrum]Soooo… Kind of like the White Carlos Silva?
Sans insanity, of course.[/quote]
I’ll flag this one myself.
[quote name=Brad at Cubs Stats]Isn’t Burgess a pitcher?[/quote]
Someone doesn’t read his Vine Line.
The interesting thing about Carlos Silva is that he took a minor league deal with the Yankees but wouldn’t stick around with the Cubs. I think he actually chose wisely even if he’s still a dick.
[quote name=Hector Villanueva ]I was annoyed that they traded Gorzelanny too. But, after the Garza trade it was kind of inevitable. Don’t forget that when the trade was made there was supposedly tons of pitching depth with Wells, Silva, Coleman, Jay Jackson, and Cashner all fighting for the 4th and 5th spots.
[/quote]
I’m not saying Gorz should have started before Wells or Cashner but he certainly would have been better to keep around than some of the garbage (JefF7 for example) that’s currently in the bullpen. Gorz had shown in the past he could transition fairly easily from bullpen to starter and back and he’s a decent lefty which they also lack.
[quote name=Rice Cube]The interesting thing about Carlos Silva is that he took a minor league deal with the Yankees but wouldn’t stick around with the Cubs. I think he actually chose wisely even if he’s still a dick.[/quote]
This makes total sense to me. It’s easier to go be in the Yankees minor league system than to be demoted from the Cubs.
I would much prefer to leave my company and take a lesser position elsewhere than to suffer the ignominy of being demoted.
[quote name=melissa]I’m not saying Gorz should have started before Wells or Cashner but he certainly would have been better to keep around than some of the garbage (JefF7 for example) that’s currently in the bullpen. Gorz had shown in the past he could transition fairly easily from bullpen to starter and back and he’s a decent lefty which they also lack.[/quote]
Clearly Gorz is a decent MLB pitcher. My only point was that they didn’t give him away, and they didn’t really need him either.
[quote name=Rice Cube]The interesting thing about Carlos Silva is that he took a minor league deal with the Yankees but wouldn’t stick around with the Cubs. I think he actually chose wisely even if he’s still a dick.[/quote]If what he wants is to start in the majors, he chose poorly. It could happen in NY, I guess, but he’d probably be starting today if he had been less oblivious to the limits of his talent.
[quote name=Rice Cube]The interesting thing about Carlos Silva is that he took a minor league deal with the Yankees but wouldn’t stick around with the Cubs. I think he actually chose wisely even if he’s still a dick.[/quote]
I think some guys just have to have the reality of a situation smack them in the face. Remember when Shawon Dunston didn’t want to move to the outfield when he was with the Cubs? he insisted he was still a shortstop. Well, the Cubs couldn’t keep paying him veteran salary to keep getting hurt while trying to play shortstop, so they let him go (or traded him or however it went). Then, all of a sudden, there was Shawon as the 4th outfielder for the Giants because nobody would let him be their shortstop.
I think Silva probably thought he could get a starting gig somewhere as soon as the Cubs released him, so he said fuck you to going to Iowa. When it turned out the minors were the best anyone was offering, he took the gig with the Yankees.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Methunk he was an OF.[/quote]
Absolutely correct.
[quote name=AndCounting]If what he wants is to start in the majors, he chose poorly. It could happen in NY, I guess, but he’d probably be starting today if he had been less oblivious to the limits of his talent.[/quote]Honestly, I expect the Yankees to call Silva up in a matter of weeks. Their rotation is ugly this year.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jKRM9gJWSNE/TY1n8JMJAkI/AAAAAAAAMX4/q5q9fFJInF8/s1600/ohsalad.gif
[quote name=AndCounting]If what he wants is to start in the majors, he chose poorly. It could happen in NY, I guess, but he’d probably be starting today if he had been less oblivious to the limits of his talent.[/quote][quote name=Hector Villanueva ]This makes total sense to me. It’s easier to go be in the Yankees minor league system than to be demoted from the Cubs.
I would much prefer to leave my company and take a lesser position elsewhere than to suffer the ignominy of being demoted.[/quote]
(dying laughing)
I knew I didn’t phrase that right at all.
I don’t think the Cubs handled the Silva thing very well and neither did Silva. But considering the divergent paths of each organization and the fact that the Yankees don’t appear very happy with Phil Hughes for the time being, seeing Silva on the big league Yankee roster doesn’t seem completely farfetched to me.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jKRM9gJWSNE/TY1n8JMJAkI/AAAAAAAAMX4/q5q9fFJInF8/s1600/ohsalad.gif[/quote]
You could do a similar mashup with yogurt commercials.
[quote name=Rice Cube](dying laughing)
I knew I didn’t phrase that right at all.
I don’t think the Cubs handled the Silva thing very well and neither did Silva. But considering the divergent paths of each organization and the fact that the Yankees don’t appear very happy with Phil Hughes for the time being, seeing Silva on the big league Yankee roster doesn’t seem completely farfetched to me.[/quote]
Too bad they didn’t want to trade Hughes for Silva (dying laughing)
[quote name=Berselius]You could do a similar mashup with yogurt commercials.[/quote]
Yogurt is a funny motherfucker. Fruit on the bottom, hope on top.
[quote name=Berselius]Too bad they didn’t want to trade Hughes for Silva (dying laughing)[/quote]
I actually wanted Mark Prior just for nostalgia.
Doug deal sealed.
/gordotweet
KG:
Last sentence sure is insightful.
Any word if that Android app is ready for download?
[quote name=GBTS]Any word if that Android app is ready for download?[/quote]It looks like it is. Now all I need to do is upgrade my Zack Morris phone.
[quote name=GBTS]Any word if that Android app is ready for download?[/quote]
It would be better if it were, yes?
[quote name=AndCounting]It looks like it is. Now all I need to do is upgrade my Zack Morris phone.[/quote]Link?
/lazy Latin
[quote name=GBTS]Link?
/lazy Latin[/quote]Scroll up. Right sidebar.
Unless you’re on your phone and it’s not showing up.
http://www.noticeorange.com/r/ObstructedView
Maybe I’m just a dumb hick, but there’s no download link once you get to that page.
I still can’t get Obstructed View on this fucking phone!
[quote name=GBTS]Maybe I’m just a dumb hick, but there’s no download link once you get to that page.[/quote]
Right click, then save as.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Right click, then save as.[/quote]
Don’t presume to tell me what to click.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Right click, then save as.[/quote]That just saves the aforementioned HTML page with no download link.
[quote name=GBTS]That just saves the aforementioned HTML page with no download link.[/quote]
Hmm… Try CTRL + F4.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Hmm… Try CTRL + F4.[/quote]That only works on your phone, since you bought it from here
[quote name=GBTS]That just saves the aforementioned HTML page with no download link.[/quote]Is that not good enough?
[quote name=GBTS]That only works on your phone, since you bought it from here
[/quote]
Weird. Someone has altered the sign on the machine from which I purchased my phone.
I’ll flag that one myself.
[quote name=GBTS]I’ll flag that one myself.[/quote]
-1 faget point
Common Man at TPA looked at last 15 WS winners to see who had “tainted” titles (i.e. someone accused of PEDs in Mitchell Report, Canseco’s book, or was actually caught). Only the White Sox of 2005 had no one linked:
http://www.platoonadvantage.com/2011/04/fifteen-years-of-tainted-titles.html
[quote name=Mish]Common Man at TPA looked at last 15 WS winners to see who had “tainted” titles (i.e. someone accused of PEDs in Mitchell Report, Canseco’s book, or was actually caught). Only the White Sox of 2005 had no one linked:
http://www.platoonadvantage.com/2011/04/fifteen-years-of-tainted-titles.html/quote
So since it wasn’t the same team every year that won and most of the winners used, we can probably just assume just about everyone was using to some extent and just move the fuck on until the time machine is completed.
[quote name=Aisle424]So since it wasn’t the same team every year that won and most of the winners used, we can probably just assume just about everyone was using to some extent and just move the fuck on until the time machine is completed.[/quote]
Can we still use a DeLorean?
/showing my age
[quote name=Rice Cube]Can we still use a DeLorean?
/showing my age[/quote]
Hey, that was a recent movie I enjoyed.
[quote name=Berselius]Hey, that was a recent movie I enjoyed.[/quote]
Is it like a recent movie?
No edits. No truncation.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Hmm… Try CTRL + F4.[/quote]
Back in my day, it was ALT+F4
[quote name=Xoomwaffle]Back in my day, it was ALT+F4[/quote]
Recent.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]No edits. No truncation.[/quote]
What is really funny is Al’s response helped cover the fact that Crane Kenney searches for inspiration for Wrigley at Six Flags.
Soon there will be a spinning tea cups (cubs?) ride on the concourse.
[quote name=Mish]Soon there will be a spinning tea cups (cubs?) ride on
the concourseWaveland and Sheffield.[/quote]Not enough room inside, the spinning tea cups would bring the house down.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]No edits. No truncation.[/quote]
Where is garbage like that posted?
Shep (Chicago)
Hi Bruce… any chance that Tyler Colvin has an opportunity to win the RF, or is he simply a fill-in for Kosuke? I know 21′s not an All-Star yet, but it seems like no one is until they have an opportunity to be one.
i love this question
[quote name=dylanj]Shep (Chicago)
Hi Bruce… any chance that Tyler Colvin has an opportunity to win the RF, or is he simply a fill-in for Kosuke? I know 21′s not an All-Star yet, but it seems like no one is until they have an opportunity to be one.
i love this question[/quote]
No question is stupid until given the opportunity to be one.
[quote name=GBTS]Link?
/lazy Latin[/quote]I don’t think it is ready yet. I just checked and it doesn’t appear to be in the store. There’s an image on the sidebar with a link to the app. You should see a button that says install on that page if you click through whenever it’s ready.
[quote name=AndCounting]Is that not good enough?[/quote]I know, what’s the deal? These people are picky when it comes to apps. We didn’t say it would work. (dying laughing)
[quote name=WaLi]Where is garbage like that posted?[/quote]Google tells me this is the link of that interview. The entire site is just utter nonsense: http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/3/12/1368720/bcb-interview-tom-ricketts-and
[quote name=Aisle424]
[/quote]There should be a hole in that shelf for 1906. If you post the best winning percentage in history and don’t win a title, you lose.
CK: We’ve got something else coming that you’ll like. When I was out at Six Flags last year with my kids, I took them out there in the summer and they had these misters, which were interesting. They were like a stainless steel column that you can walk up to and they sense your presence and they mist.
BCB: Is it like a misting station?
[quote name=WaLi]Where is garbage like that posted?[/quote]
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com.
Have fun!
[quote name=mb21]Google tells me this is the link of that interview. The entire site is just utter nonsense: http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/3/12/1368720/bcb-interview-tom-ricketts-and/quote
I refuse to go to that website anymore. I got the banhammer for calling out their fearless leader.
Tom Ricketts- We are going to serve Goose Island this year at Wrigley. Ice cold, fresh Goose Island Beer. Fans will love it
Al- So its like beer?
[quote name=WaLi]I refuse to go to that website anymore. I got the banhammer for calling out their fearless leader.[/quote]So he’s still busy banning people on a regular basis?
Tom Ricketts- We decided to an improved security system at wrigley. We are using new advanced cameras.
Al- So are they like a camera of some sort?
[quote name=mb21]So he’s still busy banning people on a regular basis?[/quote]
Not sure, this was over a year ago.
Tom Ricketts- We have decided that all vendors will wear bright blue jerseys. They are made of cloth, are the color blue and and cannot be more plain- all vendors will wear them.
Al- So are they a type of jersey?
[quote name=dylanj]Tom Ricketts- We have decided that all vendors will wear bright blue jerseys. They are made of cloth, are the color blue and and cannot be more plain- all vendors will wear them.
Al- So are they a type of jersey?[/quote]
Are they like fagets?
Tom Ricketts-We’ve decided that when fans get too unruly or make racist comments toward players, then we won’t allow them to come back to the park.
Al-So it’s like a banning?
Tom Ricketts- My family is owner of the team. I am the chairman. I run the team’s day to day.
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?
[quote name=dylanj]Tom Ricketts- My family is owner of the team. I am the chairman. I run the team’s day to day.
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?[/quote]
Did I run?
/Marlon’d
http://hirejimessian.com/2011/04/12/the-millars-tale/
Hilarious.
[quote name=dylanj]Tom Ricketts- My family is owner of the team. I am the chairman. I run the team’s day to day.
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?
al- So are you the owner?[/quote]
That was a good one too.
the misting station just sums up everything about Al. hilarity
lineup today vs RHP Brett Myers
Castro
Barney
Byrd
Ramirez
Pena
Soriano
Soto
Colvin
Russell
[quote name=Berselius]lineup today vs RHP Brett Myers
Castro
Barney (BAH)
Byrd
Ramirez
Pena
Soriano
Soto (*tear*)
Colvin
Russell[/quote]
Barney did pretty good against shoddy pitching but I don’t think he’s going to do so hot against Myers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=MVP-2011
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=DPOY-2011
It’s been a good run, but I think it’s time to put Jack Ramsay down.
Barney is on pace to hit .400 this season so I’m good with him hitting 2nd. (dying laughing)
I like the DOug davis signing. He always kills us. This stops him from killing us
If the Cubs signed everybody that killed them they’d have a 795-man roster.
[quote name=mb21]If the Cubs signed everybody that killed them they’d have a 795-man roster.[/quote]It would essentially be the Cubs vs. Ross Ohlendorf every day.
[quote name=GBTS]It would essentially be the Cubs vs. Ross Ohlendorf every day.[/quote]Cubs lose.
If it was Cubs vs. Carlos Silva every day, they might break .500.
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]I like the DOug davis signing. He always kills us. This stops him from killing us[/quote]While I really don’t like the idea of signing ex-Brewers pitchers, I’m just glad it’s not Dave Bush, Manny Parra, Chris Capuano or Jeff Suppan.
Glendon Rusch was enough, thanks.
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]I like the DOug davis signing. He always kills us. This stops him from killing us[/quote]
Otherwise known as the Blauser Theorem.
[quote name=Aisle424]Otherwise known as the Blauser Theorem.[/quote](dying laughing)
A direct descendant of the Howard Johnson Doctrine.
Nothing will ever top the Rodney Myers Theorem
[quote name=mb21]Nothing will ever top the Rodney Myers Theorem[/quote]
The Al Yellon Proposition?
[quote name=Berselius]The Al Yellon Proposition?[/quote]Nothing to see here.
The Cubs just e-mailed this to me:
“If you need to purchase extra tickets to additional games, please contact me and I’ll be happy to assist you, based on availability. While there is limited availability or no availability for some of our marquee games, I can still help you secure additional tickets for many games throughout the season.”
For $10?
Coming soon to boost sales at Wrigley:
[quote name=WenningtonsGorillaCock]
For $10?[/quote].
[quote name=Cubs ticket rep]Deal![/quote].
I would bet he is like 9-1 against us
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]I would bet he is like 9-1 against us[/quote]
Amusing, but false…just 9-8.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=davisdo02&year=Career&t=p
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]I would bet he is like 9-1 against us[/quote]
You’re half right. 9-8. 3.55 ERA 1.20 WHIP in 18 games.
Hmmmm we hit him up recently
Josh Hamilton —-> Broken right shoulder —–> out 6-8 weeks
[quote name=Aisle424]You’re half right. 9-8. 3.55 ERA 1.20 WHIP in 18 games.[/quote]He has allowed the lowest OPS vs the Cubs of any team he’s faced 10 or more times. overall, only 2 teams were worse. He carved the Cubs up for a long time, but I think bdc is right. I think the Cubs had his number in recent years.
I hate watching Doug Davis pitch. He’s as slow as Steve Trachsel on that mound and I have no idea why MLB allows that stuff. They’d have a lot more fans if they worried more about speeding up the game than they do performance enhancing drugs.
Cue the mb21 MLB stupidly puts their players in danger for the sake of tradition post in 3, 2, 1…
[quote name=AndCounting]Cue the mb21 MLB stupidly puts their players in danger for the sake of tradition post in 3, 2, 1…[/quote]At least there’s no flag pole in the field of play. (dying laughing)
game thread up: http://www.obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/games/chicago-cubs-at-houston-astros-4-12-11.html