Nick Cafardo says the Cubs are one of many teams interested in acquiring the Marlins 22 year old superstar.
1. Giancarlo Stanton, RF, Marlins — It would be a coup for whichever of the 25 teams (I’m exaggerating) that would or have bid for him to actually acquire him. But commissioner Bud Selig is watching the Marlins closely after the salary dump in the Blue Jays deal. While Selig did not step in to change or block that trade, he may not look too fondly upon a deal for the Marlins’ biggest draw. Teams would have to give their very best to the Marlins for baseball’s best young slugger. The Phillies, Red Sox, Yankees, Orioles, Cubs, and many more are inquiring, according to a major league source.
If Stanton is available, and that's a big if, of course the Cubs are interested. Along with every other team in baseball.
But let's dream for a moment and pretend the Cubs are only one of a few teams interested and that the Marlins are desparate the shed the salary of someone making the major league minimum. Are you dreaming yet?
He has a career .383 wOBA and only just finished his age 22 season. He has already totaled over 13 fWAR and 12 rWAR in 3 seasons in which he's been one of the youngest players in baseball. If he's not aready a superstar, he soon will be. Bill James projects he'll have a .403 wOBA next season.
Both UZR and DRS agree he's a well above average fielder too.
Are you dreaming now?
What would it take to acquire him?
You can forget about Javier Baez being enough to get it done. It's going to take a hell of a lot more than that. Stanton has one year in which he makes league minimum and then three years of arbitration. HIs surplus trade value is as high or higher than anybody in baseball.
I wouldn't really even know where to begin to estimate what it would take to acquire him, but I'd start with 3 of the top 5 Cubs prospects and then you can probably add on to that.
The Cubs would have a core that includes Starlin Castro, Anthony Rizzo and Stanton. All of them are very young and should only get better and better. It would probably be one of the best young cores of talent that I've seen an offense have in my life.
You need to Rant-erize the headline.
“Stanton to Cubs?”
@ GBTS:
I did like the “dream with me” tag.
dont think we have the chips to pull this one off
@ dylanj:
I think we do, but it is going to cost a shitload. Baez, Soler and Almora (have to get his approval to trade him) probably gets it most of the way there. Add in Brett Jackson or Josh Vitters.
Or maybe Rizzo, Baez and Szczur (plus a midlevel guy). Not sure why the Marlins would want Rizzo since they’re trying to get rid of someone who is better and the same age though.
is this rant enough for you bro?
“Are the Cubs trading for Stanton?”
I would guess the Marlins would want Castro.
@ GBTS:
I can’t go at Rant Sports, bro.
@ JMan:
I would think they’d not want him because of his contract. If they do want to trade Stanton, which to be honest, I find hard to believe, I don’t think they’d be interested in anyone with MLB experience.
Cubs are “interested” in Stanton the same way I’m “interested” in sex tonight.
@ GBTS:
Agreed.
@ GBTS:
So who do you think has better odds?
I keed, I keed…
Cubs to acquire Stanton, Erin Andrew nude
/Rant headline
@ mb21:
His contract is pretty cheap considering length and taking Castro’s age and ceiling. He is less risky than the other prospects and if he continues to improve he’ll become an even more valuable trade chip the Marlins can flip in a few years.
But even if they didn’t want him I would have zero problem if the cubs wanted to trade any of the farm for Stanton.
@ JMan:
I agree. I’d trade anyone to get him.
The reason I think they wouldn’t want Castro is because the Marlins could probably lock Stanton up to a similar deal. It might take a few more million, but he has only 3 years of arbitration compared to 4 for Castro.
If I was the Cubs, I’d throw whoever the Marlins wanted their direction and then I’d lock him up for a very long time.
@ mb21:
What about injury concerns?
GBTS wrote:
I’m dreaming with you.
@ AndCounting:
TMI, stranger
@ AndCounting:
You bring the cole slaw.
Upton says he’s probably going to sign with someone this week. Haven’t seen the Cubs linked to him at all.
@ Berselius:
The Cubs are obviously “Mystery Team”.
I would be kind of surprised if they signed him. He’s young but his plate discipline is Soriano-esque.
Berselius wrote:
i don’t believe the marlins trade stanton. I don’t see what they gain. Unless you basically give your entire farm system to miami and even then i don’t think it’s worth it. I bet if you ask any farm director, he’d tell you that he’d give his left nut to know that he had one single player as good as stanton in his system.
Also, would this deal even go through? Say stanton for baez, almora, vizcaino, everyone else, i gotta figure that selig vetos this. Actually, what veto power does selig have? I mean, i realize that he has absolute veto power but on what grounds can he veto a trade? To my understanding he can only veto a trade if it’s detrimental to the league as a whole but i have no clue what i’m talking about.
@ EnricoPallazzo:
I think the only scenario where they trade Stanton would be if he holds out for a trade or something because he’s so pissed at the franchise. He’s already blasted management over that trade. And it’s not like they haven’t had problems with players before (see Logan Morrison).
Berselius wrote:
First place
@ WaLi:
Rays ——–> extended Longoria for (another?) six seasons, $100m. He’s under team control until 2023.
Who the fuck is his agent?
The Rays must have blackmail photos of Longoria or something. This is fucking ridiculous.
Can’t wait for the Rant Sports article saying the Cubs don’t want to win because they don’t have a top 10 player signed for peanuts for the next decade.
Berselius wrote:
Some guy who just made $10 million for being shitty at his job? In other words, my hero?
EnricoPallazzo wrote:
I agree. It makes no sense whatsoever for them to trade a guy making league minimum this year and then followed by 3 arbitration years. Even the Marlins can afford that.
Maybe Longoria doesn’t like money.
@ mb21:
Perhaps he was terrorized by a clown dressed as Ben Franklin in his youth.
@ Berselius:
It’s weird. I don’t blame his agent at this point. He’s been around the league long enough and seen the kind of contracts others are getting. This is on him too.
@ mb21:
IIRC it’s the same guy who got a 10/157 extension for Tulo
@ Berselius:
There you go. For some reason Longoria just doesn’t care about money and really wants to play in Tampa Bay. That’s the only thing I can think of. Does he have family there? A dying grandmother who raised him since he was a little boy? Is he not allowed to move out of Florida?
@ mb21:
6/$100MM was the same extension Ryan Zimmerman got. I guess you could argue that both have injury concerns and that Longoria is probably better than Zimmerman though.
@ Rice Cube:
I guess I should remove that “probably” in post #38 then.
@ Rice Cube:
Yeah you probably should.
@ JMan:
I’m still eating dinner though.
Longoria is 3rd among position players since 2008 in fWAR behind Pujols and barely behind Braun.
I think the injury issue likely suppressed the value of his contract and it was a combination of liking where he was, financial security, and knowing that someone wanted to commit to him, not to mention that $100MM is still a fuckton of money.
I’d like to thank you all for believing in me. At least, the ones of you who did.
@ Collin Kaepernick:
Every other word out of the announcers mouth was “Kaepernick”. It was annoying watching the 49ers game.
@ Collin Kaepernick:
Ryno?
@ mb21:
My first thought too.
@ WaLi:
Just like how every other sentence in the Giants-Packers game was about how Ahmad Bradshaw never practices
@ Berselius:
It’s not his fault he’s so strong. He doesn’t even exercise.
/Fezzik’d
mb21 wrote:
Yes, that’s the one who believed in me.
@ Collin Kaepernick:
What do they do with Smith?
Bobby Scales —-> Angels director of player development
Cubs let another Young Player get away
@ mb21:
I imagine they keep him if Kaepernick falters at any time in the remainder of the season and then dangle him in an offseason trade.
“I thought it was a legal hit,” Allen said. “He’s running to make a tackle, so I just went to block him.”
@ WaLi:
Left his feet, helmet-to-helmet…that’s the new “legal” then?
Berselius wrote:
Isn’t there a picture of his penis already floating on the internet? What could they possibly have?
@ GBTS:
Uhh, Mish told me that.
Rob Deer ———–> assistant (to the) hitting coach
(dying laughing)
@ GBTS:
I imagine a video like this:
@ WaLi:
Lance Louis ——> IR
gents, it’s reached an obnoxious point where the cubs can’t hire an assistant fucking hitting coach without the fans bitching and moaning about theo/jed. people are not even willing to look at these moves and wait and see. it’s just a jump to conclusion that the hiring is bad. lmfao.
The Reds are close to giving 3 years to Broxton. Guess we’ll see Chapman in the rotation next year
Heyman says “at least” 3 years (dying laughing)
@ wpbc:
NO!
@ WaLi:
that’s it.
ultimately even the best baseball people fail. then they can all say ‘i told you so’.
what a fanbase full of dopes.
I’m starting to worry about Starlin Castro. He hasn’t drawn a walk in, what, two months?
@ Berselius:
If anyone can fix the hole in Jackson’s swing, it’s him.
wpbc wrote:
It does seem like an odd hire, what with the massive contact issues he always had as a player. Sometimes it’s hard to decipher the snark from the pure bitching like Theo is a moron.
I tend to follow more of the smarter Cubs fans on Twitter and there was quite a bit of snark, but I didn’t see many meatball tweets like Theo is ruining their lives on purpose or something. In reality, it’s a pretty minor hiring.
Lulz….
http://deadspin.com/5963323/?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
@ Aisle424:
i think i’m following mostly unstable fans.
I just think it’s funny they hired an assistant hitting coach. (dying laughing)
I’m hoping they hire assistant coaches at all coaching positions. The assistant bullpen coach will be the best. Assistant 1st base coach. (dying laughing)
Maybe they can create more assistants too. Logan Watkins could be the Assistant 2nd baseman.
If the Cubs add assistants for every positions, there would be a catcher, assistant catcher, back-up catcher and an assistant back-up catcher. That’s awesome.
@ mb21:
No more wild pitches!
@ Rice Cube:
Cubs pitchers would have the lowest babip in baseball history.
@ mb21:
Baseball would actually resemble football with the runner, assistant runner, backup runner and assistant to the runner trying to railroad the catcher, assistant catcher, backup catcher and assistant to the catcher at the plate. I would totally pay to see this.
Rice Cube wrote:
(dying laughing)
Question: Is Deer the Assistant Hitting Coach or the Assistant TO the Hitting Coach?
@ Mish:
@ Mish:
I believe you mean:
Fuck you guys I just got here. (dying laughing)
Anyway, I’ve heard it’s increasingly common to have an assistant hitting coach, especially a left-handed one (to compliment the righty).
@ Mish:
I’m sure you’re glad to be home after another long day at the power plant.
Apologies if this was mentioned already (didn’t read every word), but here’s a BP interview with Deer.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8732
Because GBTS hasn’t posted it yet..
The Angels have an asst hitting coach. Others do to but I can’t remember which teams. As I recall from an article in SI last spring, the Angels split assignments between the hitting coach and his assistant so that one focuses on the mental approach (I guess that is looking for the right pitch to hit, playing within oneself, whatever the f that means, etc.) and the other works on mechanics. Apparently most folks aren’t really strong at both. Not sure which one is Deer’s forte. I assume that he’ll have batters in slumps stare into the lights though.
@ WaLi:
Many apologies. I’ve been off my game lately.
@ SVB:
Nah, he’ll just sell them a Vizubat:
http://vizubat.com/
Now I know why MB wanted to have OV Con 2013 in Germany, although I have to assume that’s cancelled now.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/germany-to-ban-sex-with-animals-report/story-fnddckzi-1226524544281
@ Berselius:
You can go about their business.
@ GBTS:
Do tell me what to do
/Jedi mind trick
Marvin Miller ———–> negotiating his entrance to heaven
The Cubs are reportedly close to signing Scott Feldman to a one year deal.
Scott is the new Carlos
1/6 for Feldman, with another $1m in incentives. Gut reaction is that I like the deal.
@ Berselius:
Does that mean they aren’t going to bother with a Gatorade machine this year, or what?
@ Berselius:
It always surprises me how quick Wiki is:
@ Berselius:
So…what’s the corresponding roster move?
@ Rice Cube:
If the 40-man is full, I fully expect Casey Coleman to be outrighted
@ WaLi:
You’re surprised there are a lot of bored people using the internet at any given time?
The non-tender deadline is coming up too, so Ian Stewart could be just as likely.
@ Berselius:
@ Berselius:
Brett at BN had mentioned the Cubs kicking the tires on Keppinger before he almost killed himself on the stairs, so Stewart may be on the way out. Though if they now have to wait for Keppinger to get healthy, what’s the rule on non-tendering a guy and then waiting to re-sign him until after the Rule 5 draft? I doubt anybody will clamor for Stewart’s services right away and he likely won’t settle for a minor league deal if he can help it.
I like the Feldman signing a lot. If nobody else does, I’ll write more about it later today.
I can’t wait for “Getting to know Scott Feldman”.
@mb21
Fangraphs apparently loves the signing. Cameron wrote it up.
Also, came across this comment in the chat, which I’m not sure I agree with:
Berselius37 wrote:
new shit: http://www.obstructedview.net/news-and-rumors/cubs-sign-scott-feldman.html