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  • Aramis Ramirez is Due

    With the news that Darwin Barney is now headed to the DL, I thought it would be “fun” to see if the Cubs could field an entire squad of players who have been on the DL this season.

    SS Darwin Barney

    2B Jeff Baker

    C Geovany Soto

    1B Alfonso Soriano

    LF Marlon Byrd

    RF Reed Johnson

    CF Brett Jackson

    SP Matt Garza

    SP Randy Wells

    SP Andrew Cashner

    SP Trey McNutt

    SP Jay Jackson

    SP/RP Bob Whitenack

    CL Kerry Wood

    All we’re missing is a third baseman. You’re next, Aramis Ramirez!


    Berselius
    He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.
    Berselius

    169 Responses to “Aramis Ramirez is Due”

    1. 1 Berselius says:

      Alternatively, if we go

      2B Barney
      3B Baker

      Then Castro is up next.

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    2. 2 ACT says:

      At least Barney’s knee died a hero.

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    3. 3 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Castro is up next.[/quote]You shut your dirty whore mouth.

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    4. 4 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      (dying laughing), when people see the title of this post, they’re going to think it’s about something verrrrrrrrrrryyyyyy different. (dying laughing)

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    5. 5 Mish says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing), when people see the title of this post, they’re going to think it’s about something verrrrrrrrrrryyyyyy different. (dying laughing)[/quote]He’s pregnant?

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    6. 6 Xoomwaffle says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing), when people see the title of this post, they’re going to think it’s about something verrrrrrrrrrryyyyyy different. (dying laughing)[/quote]
      I was very confused. I was thinking “Didn’t he have a good game last night?”

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    7. 7 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    8. 9 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Rosscup: 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 9 K, 1 BB

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    9. 10 Rice Cube says:

      http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Cubs-minor-league-team-mocks-LeBron-with-ring-gi?urn=mlb-wp9511

      It sure takes a lot of guts to schedule a giveaway mocking LeBron’s lack of rings when you’re feeding a big league baseball franchise that hasn’t won one since 1908. Especially when the Cubs are currently a heck of a lot farther away from winning a championship than James and the Heat.

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    10. 11 jtsunami says:

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    11. 12 Mish says:

      Dunno if this has been posted here:

      http://www.sporcle.com/games/DJC83/mlbbats9s

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    12. 13 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Cubs-minor-league-team-mocks-LeBron-with-ring-gi?urn=mlb-wp9511[/quote]
      They also “fed” STL and LAA. Is it OK now?

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    13. 14 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]Dunno if this has been posted here:

      http://www.sporcle.com/games/DJC83/mlbbats9s/quote
      Where’s “Can you name the MLB players with the most career R+RBI by position?”?

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    14. 15 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]They also “fed” STL and LAA. Is it OK now?[/quote]
      Feel free to draft an angry letter to the blogger.

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    15. 16 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Feel free to draft an angry letter to the blogger.[/quote]
      Dear blogger,

      Fuck you, faget.

      Sincerely,

      Jame Gumb.

      p.s. What are you, about a size 13?

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    16. 17 Rice Cube says:

      Goooooood…I can feel your anger…

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    17. 18 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Where’s “Can you name the MLB players with the most career R+RBI by position?”?[/quote]I’m working on it.

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    18. 19 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]

      Goooooood…I can feel your snark…[/quote].

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    19. 20 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    20. 21 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    21. 22 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb][/quote]
      Flaming.

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    22. 23 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb].[/quote]
      It’s too bad you’re banned or else this could’ve been a fanshot.

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    23. 24 Rice Cube says:

      Snap.

      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-cubs-are-having-a-street-fair-outside-wrigley-field-sort-of/

      “They’re trying to entertain their fans and have an exciting event around the ballpark, even if the team doesn’t win. I don’t think they want to be doing this. The Cubs are not in the street fair business. But, this is what they have to do to stay relevant.”

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    24. 26 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Can this happen to the Cubs?

      http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/David-Einhorn-could-buy-a-majority-of-the-Mets-f?urn=mlb-wp9587/quote
      I didn’t read it, but if whatever is in that link is bad, then yes. yes it can.

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    25. 27 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]I didn’t read it, but if whatever is in that link is bad, then yes. yes it can.[/quote]

      Basically said that if the Wilpons crap out, that Einhorn guy can control the Mets for just a dollar.

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    26. 28 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Basically said that if the Wilpons crap out, that Finkle/Einhorn guy can control the Mets for just a dollar.[/quote]

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    27. 29 josh says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Can this happen to the Cubs?

      http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/David-Einhorn-could-buy-a-majority-of-the-Mets-f?urn=mlb-wp9587/quoteI was wondering if selling some control or getting serious sponsor or new investor involvement might be a way to fix/replace Wrigley.

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    28. 30 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      If I’m doing a gif of Bob Stoops, what poster should be up on his wall?

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    29. 31 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      If you like pina coladas…

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    30. 32 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]

      If you like pina coladas…[/quote]
      Oddly enough, we listened to the NPR “Wait Wait Don’t Tell me Podcasts” on the drive to Chicago and in one of them I actually discovered this was the meaning of the Pina Colada song.

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    31. 33 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]If I’m doing a gif of Bob Stoops, what poster should be up on his wall?[/quote]
      Too late. It’s a team edward poster.

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    32. 34 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]Oddly enough, we listened to the NPR “Wait Wait Don’t Tell me Podcasts” on the drive to Chicago and in one of them I actually discovered this was the meaning of the Pina Colada song.[/quote]
      Are you telling me Rupert Holmes was a nazi pederast?

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    33. 35 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    34. 36 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Are you telling me Rupert Holmes was a nazi pederast?[/quote]
      I’m not not telling you this.

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    35. 37 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]I’m not not telling you this.[/quote]
      Were you implying that? Because I was inferring that.

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    36. 38 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      For those of you who were curious…

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    37. 39 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Too late. It’s a team edward poster.[/quote]

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    38. 40 GBTS says:

      What’s a pederast, Walter JG?

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    39. 41 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=GBTS]What’s a pederast, Walter JG?[/quote]
      Shut the fuck up, GBTS!

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    40. 42 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Were you implying that? Because I was inferring that.[/quote]
      Imply? Or implode?

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    41. 43 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]Imply? Or implode?[/quote]
      I’m becoming disinterested with this conversation.

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    42. 44 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Shut the fuck up, GBTS![/quote]
      Or you’ll go on the most pederast rant this board has ever seen?

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    43. 45 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]I’m becoming disinterested with this conversation.[/quote]
      So does that make you dispartial or unpartial?

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    44. 46 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]So does that make you dispartial or unpartial?[/quote]
      I used “disinterested” not just because it’s a correct definition, but it seems to define me — someone completely detached from this conversation.

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    45. 47 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]Or you’ll go on the most pederast rant this board has ever seen?[/quote]
      Were you listening to my story?

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    46. 48 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Were you listening to my story?[/quote]No, was it a cool story, bro?

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    47. 49 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]No, was it a cool story, bro?[/quote]
      You have no frame of reference. You’ re like a child who wanders in in the middle of a movie and wants to know–

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    48. 50 Mish says:

      Meh, I’m iminterested.

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    49. 51 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Peasants! Arst thou conversing?

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    50. 52 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Man, someone is +1ing the shit out of this thread.

      Prediction: One person will -1 this post.

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    51. 53 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Man, someone is +1ing the shit out of this thread.

      Prediction: One person will -1 this post.[/quote]Or not. It could go either way.

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    52. 54 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    53. 55 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Or not. It could go either way.[/quote]
      +1

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    54. 56 ZappBrannigan says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]+1[/quote]
      -1

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    55. 57 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=ZappBrannigan]-1[/quote]
      Hilarious. +1

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    56. 59 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Peasants! Arst thou conversing?[/quote]
      Nay, M’Lord! Just walking!

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    57. 60 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/6/15/2224992/detroit-tigers-news-justin-verlander-al-central-race?login=1308157894#69706029

      FLAGGED[/quote](dying laughing)

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    58. 61 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Nay, M’Lord! Just walking![/quote]False.

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    59. 62 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]False.[/quote]
      Correct. I was dumb enough to bike into work when the high is 103 today (dying laughing).

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    60. 64 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Correct. I was dumb enough to bike into work when the high is 103 today (dying laughing).[/quote]Ye gods. 65 here, with a nice breeze.

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    61. 67 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Correct. I was dumb enough to bike into work when the high is 103 today (dying laughing).[/quote]
      Wow. Two hundred miles north and we’re only at 93.

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    62. 68 Mish says:

      I didn’t realize interleague play started up again:

      **Kansas City Royals pitching prospect Mike Montgomery allowed one earned run in five innings last night for Triple-A Omaha, fanning eight Iowa Cubs and allowing just two hits, but walking five. On the season, he is now 2-3, 5.00 in 14 starts with a 64/46 K/BB in 76 innings, 66 hits allowed. The Royals hoped he would be ready to contribute in the majors sometime this year, and while we may still see him at some point, he isn’t as advanced as they hoped he would be entering the campaign.

      (dying laughing)

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    63. 69 Mish says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Any chance on the choice quote(s) for the wage slaves grad students in the audience?[/quote]

      Mish ———> not an Insider

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    64. 70 Mish says:

      More from Sickels:

      **Chicago Cubs prospect Brooks Raley had a nice start on June 9th for Double-A Tennessee, going 6.2 innings, allowing two earned runs on seven hits and one walk, fanning four and picking up the victory. His performance this year has been spotty, and his overall numbers aren’t very good: 4.84 ERA in 12 starts, 35/28 K/BB in 61 innings, 79 hits.

      A sixth-round pick in 2009 out of Texas A&M, Raley was a two-way player in college and is a terrific athlete. The Cubs hoped that moving him to the mound full-time would boost the quality of his stuff, but the results have just been so-so. He works at 88-92, and while his curveball and changeup are decent, none of his pitches are spectacular and his K/IP rate is low. He rates as a Grade C type at this point, but given his background there may be some upside yet to tap.

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    65. 71 Mish says:

      Good stuff by Poz – LBJ related, but easily applicable to baseball (writers): http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/06/case-for-rooting-against-lebron.html

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    66. 73 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Mish]Good stuff by Poz – LBJ related, but easily applicable to baseball (writers): http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/06/case-for-rooting-against-lebron.html/quoteThat's why Poz is the best sportswriter in the biz.

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    67. 74 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]GW and B:

      http://www.bonappetit.com/magazine/slideshows/2011/07/aaron-franklin-barbecue-best-restaurant-in-america#intro/quote
      Fuck you Ryno, now I’m starving for BBQ and it’s too late to go there (dying laughing)

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    68. 75 Rice Cube says:

      Dallas fans who rooted for Jason Kidd and basketball fans who rooted for him to finally win his championship after a long and great career, they were not speaking out in support of his domestic abuse arrest, and I think it’s disingenuous and insulting to suggest it. Jason Kidd is a character in our lives, not the best man at our weddings. People enjoy the Sistine Chapel without supporting Michelangelo’s reportedly disgusting personal habits. People have a great time at Woody Allen movies without standing up for his kind of creepy life. So people should be able to root for Jason Kidd because he’s been a fabulous player for so long without saying anything at all about who he is when he’s off the court.

      I agree with this. I just like Jason Kidd because he’s very good at distributing the basketball, not because he’s a wifebeater.

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    69. 76 Rice Cube says:

      I also found it hilarious that he mentions Ric Flair upon moving to Charlotte…Ric Flair did his “woo” thing for the Carolina Hurricanes whenever they scored a goal. That was loads of fun.

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    70. 77 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Fuck you Ryno, now I’m starving for BBQ and it’s too late to go there (dying laughing)[/quote]
      (dying laughing) It’s not too late to drive to Luling, though.

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    71. 78 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    72. 79 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      To complete my purchase of a ticket to hell, (dying laughing):

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    73. 80 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I agree with this. I just like Jason Kidd because he’s very good at distributing the basketball, not because he’s a wifebeater.[/quote]Definitely. People have to separate the athlete from the person. I couldn’t care less what kind of a person Barry Bonds is. All I care about is how fucking awesome he was at sports. None of that shit matters to me.

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    74. 81 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb](dying laughing) It’s not too late to drive to Luling, though.[/quote]
      (dying laughing). At least we have another out of town guest coming soon so I’ll have another excuse to drive to Salt Lick

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    75. 82 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Berselius](dying laughing). At least we have another out of town guest coming soon so I’ll have another excuse to drive to Salt Lick[/quote]
      You need to take them to Franklin’s first. Then I need a report telling me if it’s worth a 200-mile drive.

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    76. 83 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]Definitely. People have to separate the athlete from the person. I couldn’t care less what kind of a person Barry Bonds is. All I care about is how fucking awesome he was at sports. None of that shit matters to me.[/quote]
      I thought Barry Bonds was awesome even amidst all the steroid stuff. Sammy Sosa too. I guess that makes me a bad sports fan, but I figure that most guys can’t do what they did even with steroids…

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    77. 84 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]You need to take them to Franklin’s first. Then I need a report telling me if it’s worth a 200-mile drive.[/quote]
      I’m probably not the best judge. Like the guy who wrote that Franklin’s article I’m generally prejudiced against brisket.

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    78. 85 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I thought Barry Bonds was awesome even amidst all the steroid stuff. Sammy Sosa too. I guess that makes me a bad sports fan, but I figure that most guys can’t do what they did even with steroids…[/quote]
      What about playing salsa music too loud?

      Never Forget.

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    79. 86 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]What about playing salsa music too loud?

      Never Forget.[/quote]
      I actually don’t remember the salsa music as the sound of the ball exploding off Sosa’s bat must have drowned it out.

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    80. 87 ZappBrannigan says:

      Everyone always thought Grace was such a hero for smashing it. Sounds like a passive aggresive little bitch to me.

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    81. 88 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=ZappBrannigan]Everyone always thought Grace was such a hero for smashing it. Sounds like a passive aggresive little bitch to me.[/quote]
      I’ve heard it wasn’t Grace or Wood. Someone from the Cubs once told me it wasn’t anybody who you would think it was.

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    82. 89 Rice Cube says:

      If you were running the Cubs in 2012, considering his age and awesomeness and the pricetag attached…do you sign Yu Darvish?

      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/yu-darvishs-scoreless-inning-streak-stopped-at-46/

      It’s kind of funny that Matt Murton stopped the streak.

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    83. 90 Aisle424 says:

      Maybe they didn’t think I would think it was Mark Grace, or they were totally lying, but I’ve always assumed it was someone like Alou.

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    84. 91 Corms says:

      [quote name=ZappBrannigan]Everyone always thought Grace was such a hero for smashing it. Sounds like a passive aggresive little bitch to me.[/quote]
      Grace was gone from the Cubs by time the boom box got smashed.

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    85. 92 ZappBrannigan says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Maybe they didn’t think I would think it was Mark Grace, or they were totally lying, but I’ve always assumed it was someone like Alou.[/quote]
      That would make sense. The Latin players always form clubhouse barriers between themselves and other ethnicities.

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    86. 93 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]I’ve heard it wasn’t Grace or Wood. Someone from the Cubs once told me it wasn’t anybody who you would think it was.[/quote]
      Strange – I thought the CW has always been that it was Kerry Wood.

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    87. 94 ZappBrannigan says:

      [quote name=Corms]Grace was gone from the Cubs by time the boom box got smashed.[/quote]
      Hmmm.. I guess I always heard for some reason it was him. I guess it would make sense if it wasn’t. He was pretty well hated in the clubhouse so it could’ve been any number of people.

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    88. 96 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Maybe they didn’t think I would think it was Mark Grace, or they were totally lying, but I’ve always assumed it was someone like Alou.[/quote]Wasn’t Grace gone by then?

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    89. 98 ZappBrannigan says:

      Shit that’s a Sullivan article

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    90. 99 ZappBrannigan says:

      I’m disuncredited…

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    91. 100 mb21 says:

      We know it wasn’t Carlos Zambrano. He would have upset Cubs fans by breaking the thing over his knee.

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    92. 101 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]We know it wasn’t Carlos Zambrano. He would have upset Cubs fans by breaking the thing over his knee.[/quote]
      I wonder if he’d give lessons on the proper destruction of boom boxes as well.

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    93. 102 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/fay-vincent-wouldnt-want-any-mark-cubans-if-he-were-commissioner/[/quote]
      I like winning.

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    94. 103 Mish says:

      THT has a post up on random team stats, and this was in there:

      The Cubs feature the only bullpen that throws fastballs fewer than 50 percent of the time.

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    95. 104 GW says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Fuck you Ryno, now I’m starving for BBQ and it’s too late to go there (dying laughing)[/quote]
      i just got some rudy’s as a consolation

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    96. 105 josh says:

      Have there been any updates on the Cubs draft picks that anyone has seen? Have they signed any of them yet?

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    97. 106 Berselius says:

      Thomas Diamond ——> Released

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    98. 107 Mish says:

      My splooge —–> released

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    99. 109 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mish]mb disagrees: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-next-market-inefficiencies-east-asian-talent//quote
      I know he’s part Iranian or something, but what about Yu Darvish?

      /Darvish-fag

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    100. 110 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I know he’s part Iranian or something, but what about Yu Darvish?

      /Darvish-fag[/quote]
      I do get what Brad is saying though.

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    101. 111 Rice Cube says:

      LeMahieu —> starting 2B

      Soriano —-> batting cages, pinch hitter

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    102. 112 Aisle424 says:

      Castro SS
      Johnson CF
      Baker 1B
      Ramirez 3B
      Soto C
      Montañez RF
      DeWitt LF
      LeMahieu 2B
      Zambrano P

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    103. 113 Aisle424 says:

      Quade really has a nice balance of scrap and lazy Latino going in this lineup.

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    104. 114 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Quade really has a nice balance of scrap and lazy Latino going in this lineup.[/quote]
      One of the lazy Latinos has jet lag, so DeWitt gets to play LF again.

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    105. 115 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      It’s good to see DeWitt get yet another chance to look incompetent in the field. (dying laughing)

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    106. 116 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Two hours of weeding the garden = reward of smoked brisket sandwich, couscous salad and two ice-cold IPAs. Life is good.

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    107. 117 Berselius says:

      Barney ——-> Grade 3 PCL strain, not a Grade 1 as originally reported. Do the Cubs underestimate every injury their players get?

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    108. 118 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mish]mb disagrees: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-next-market-inefficiencies-east-asian-talent//quoteIt's not that I disagree, it’s that the talent level disagrees. Go ahead and spend a shitload of money over there. I hope 29 teams do so. I just hope that the one that does not is the Cubs.

      Like one of the commenter says in that thread, you can build an awesome academy or a dozen of them and the players won’t be any good unless they have someone good to play against. Nobody has mentioned this before, but if you want to improve the talent level in those countries create a professional league there and send MLB caliber players there to play. Actually, fuck the whole academy thing. Start a professional league in China, but to start you’re going to have to fill the rosters with former MLB players. Maybe at some point the talent level comes up and they begin to replace them.

      The pipeline of Chinese players coming to MLB is similar to the one coming from Russia.

      I don’t watch soccer and couldn’t care less about it, but we’ve been playing soccer in this country for a long time. From what I can find, only 10 Americans played in the EPL this season. Just what kind of investment is an MLB team willing to accept to develop talent in China or Taiwan? It’s going to be considerable and there is no possible way on earth that it qualifies as a market inefficiency when all is said and done. By the time you get that league average player, the team will have spent well over $100 million.

      If all the teams except the Cubs started spending their money in that way instead of here, the Cubs would actually win a World Series so I hope it happens.

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    109. 119 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Castro SS
      Johnson CF
      Baker 1B
      Ramirez 3B
      Soto C
      Montañez RF
      DeWitt LF
      LeMahieu 2B
      Zambrano P[/quote](dying laughing) at almost everyone in the lineup.

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    110. 120 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Barney ——-> Grade 3 PCL strain, not a Grade 1 as originally reported. Do the Cubs underestimate every injury their players get?[/quote]I think teams always do that. I assume with a grade 3 he’s out for the season and perhaps some of next year.

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    111. 121 ACT says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Castro SS
      Johnson CF
      Baker 1B
      Ramirez 3B
      Soto C
      Montañez RF
      DeWitt LF
      LeMahieu 2B
      Zambrano P[/quote]Is Pena just not going to play against southpaws now?

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    112. 122 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Barney ——-> Grade 3 PCL strain, not a Grade 1 as originally reported. Do the Cubs underestimate every injury their players get?[/quote]Bears fans think Barney is a quitter and should gut it out.

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    113. 123 mb21 says:

      I’d also add that because so many Hispanics are signed it’s no longer a market inefficiency either. I want the Cubs to continue to invest, but it wouldn’t surprise me to find that teams are spending more per win on that talent than they are on American born players. Part of that is because every Hispanic is signed thinking he’s the next great one. So it’s awesome when you get that one player that you signed for dirt cheap to be super productive, but we can’t ignore all the money wasted to find that one player.

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    114. 124 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]Is Pena just not going to play against southpaws now?[/quote]Seems like Quade’s recent MO is to go strictly with platoon advantages. Let’s See What Happens.

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    115. 125 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ACT]Is Pena just not going to play against southpaws now?[/quote]If they play Baker in his absence I’m fine with it.

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    116. 126 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Bears fans think Barney is a quitter and should gut it out.[/quote]I hope the Cubs called Maurice Jones-Drew to make sure this was a significant enough knee injury to put Barney on the DL.

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    117. 127 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]If they play Baker in his absence I’m fine with it.[/quote]Yeah, Baker just murders LHP. I’d never have him sit vs. a lefty.

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    118. 128 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I hope the Cubs called Maurice Jones-Drew to make sure this was a significant enough knee injury to put Barney on the DL.[/quote]
      Derrick Brooks agrees

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    119. 129 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Derrick Brooks agrees[/quote]Someone get Jimmy Johnson out of the cryogenic tanning bed where he spends the offseason and get his opinion.

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    120. 130 ACT says:

      I’d rather have Baker at second, personally, but I guess you have to find playing time for DJ.

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    121. 131 josh says:

      [quote name=mb21]I think teams always do that. I assume with a grade 3 he’s out for the season and perhaps some of next year.[/quote]Is that true? It was a nasty looking slide, I winced when I saw it.

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    122. 132 josh says:

      Do they teach stretching in Des Moines? How about sliding?

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    123. 133 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Josh]Is that true? It was a nasty looking slide, I winced when I saw it.[/quote]Is it true he’s likely out for at least the rest of this season? I would assume so. A grade 3 tear means the ligament ruptured. Tore in half or whatever you want to call it.

      PCL strains are different than ACL strains in that surgery is less likely, but for a grade 3 it may be mandatory. I’m not really sure. I’d have to look into it. Usually when you tear your PCL, you also damage other ligaments. I tore my PCL and ACL during a running accident a couple years ago. The ACL was a grade 3 and the PCL a grade 2. They didn’t do any surgery on the PCL, but replaced the ACL. It requires a much longer rehab than the PCL, but I’d be shocked if he played this season.

      If it requires surgery, and it just might for an athlete, missing a year wouldn’t be too surprising.

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    124. 134 mb21 says:

      One early report I read said at least 3 weeks. I think that’s ridiculous. That’s as absurd a timeline as the 4 weeks for Wells and Cashner. Based on similar injuries and down time in the past we could guess that it would be at least 7 weeks and maybe a bit longer. Wells returned right at the 8th week and Cashner wasn’t far behind until his setback.

      Just checking out Wikipedia so you know how accurate that is (it’s NEVER wrong), it says that most PCL tears (complete ones like Barney has) do require surgery. He’s going to be out for a long time.

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    125. 135 josh says:

      [quote name=mb21]Is it true he’s likely out for at least the rest of this season? I would assume so. A grade 3 tear means the ligament ruptured. Tore in half or whatever you want to call it.

      PCL strains are different than ACL strains in that surgery is less likely, but for a grade 3 it may be mandatory. I’m not really sure. I’d have to look into it. Usually when you tear your PCL, you also damage other ligaments. I tore my PCL and ACL during a running accident a couple years ago. The ACL was a grade 3 and the PCL a grade 2. They didn’t do any surgery on the PCL, but replaced the ACL. It requires a much longer rehab than the PCL, but I’d be shocked if he played this season.

      If it requires surgery, and it just might for an athlete, missing a year wouldn’t be too surprising.[/quote]Where is the information on it being a Grade 3 coming from? Is this a reliable source? Just curious, since that seems like pretty bad news. I think we should DFA Soriano as a sign of mourning, even if it turns out it’s only Grade 1.

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    126. 136 mb21 says:

      Berselius said it was and then roto times or something like that has an update. Let me look for a link.

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    127. 137 josh says:

      [quote name=mb21]One early report I read said at least 3 weeks. I think that’s ridiculous. That’s as absurd a timeline as the 4 weeks for Wells and Cashner. Based on similar injuries and down time in the past we could guess that it would be at least 7 weeks and maybe a bit longer. Wells returned right at the 8th week and Cashner wasn’t far behind until his setback.

      Just checking out Wikipedia so you know how accurate that is (it’s NEVER wrong), it says that most PCL tears (complete ones like Barney has) do require surgery. He’s going to be out for a long time.[/quote]It would depend on the injury, because a sprain is much worse than a strain, right? I’m not a doctor or anything. I think “strain” is usually reserved for muscles and tendons, not ligaments.

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    128. 138 mb21 says:

      A sprain is a strain is a tear. A grade 1 sprain is a grade 1 strain is a grade 1 tear. Teams always use sprain because we think it’s less of an injury. Sometimes they’ll use strain because it doesn’t sound like tear. Rarely do they say someone is going to the DL with a grade 3 tear, which is really what it is.

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    129. 140 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Josh]It would depend on the injury, because a sprain is much worse than a strain, right? I’m not a doctor or anything. I think “strain” is usually reserved for muscles and tendons, not ligaments.[/quote]Technically yes, which is the best kind of correct. Still, a grade 3 sprain means the ligament was ripped in half.

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    130. 141 josh says:

      [quote name=mb21]Technically yes, which is the best kind of correct. Still, a grade 3 sprain means the ligament was ripped in half.[/quote]I’m just trying to hope it’s not as bad as it sounds. I guess that’s what the team wants. Not that Barney is going to save the team, but he’s been one of the bright spots.

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    131. 142 Aisle424 says:

      Levine is still calling it a Grade 1 sprain.

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    132. 144 Mish says:

      For me:

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    133. 145 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ACT]For what it’s worth… http://twitter.com/#!/PWSullivan/status/81102369265434624/quoteOut for 2 weeks. I really hope someone questioned him on that because if it’s a grade 3 there’s literally no chance he’s back in 2 weeks.

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    134. 146 mb21 says:

      The colors look pretty good, Mish.

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    135. 147 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]Out for 2 weeks. I really hope someone questioned him on that because if it’s a grade 3 there’s literally no chance he’s back in 2 weeks.[/quote]
      Steroids.

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    136. 148 Berselius says:

      http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/5868

      (dying laughing), Hendry just got a vote of confidence. He’s cooked.

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    137. 149 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Steroids Stem cells.[/quote]
      /Colon

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    138. 150 Mish says:

      [quote name=mb21]The colors look pretty good, Mish.[/quote]Racist

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    139. 151 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]/Colon[/quote]
      Wonder if he flew back down to get stem cells injected into his hamstring.

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    140. 152 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/5868

      (dying laughing), Hendry just got a vote of confidence. He’s cooked.[/quote]Ricketts would be the only guy to get the dreaded vote on confidence wrong, too. (dying laughing)

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    141. 153 Berselius says:

      [quote name=mb21]Berselius said it was and then roto times or something like that has an update. Let me look for a link.[/quote]
      I saw it in a Bruce Miles tweet

      http://twitter.com/#!/BruceMiles2112

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    142. 154 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/5868

      (dying laughing), Hendry just got a vote of confidence. He’s cooked.[/quote]
      I really wonder how much of a “non-story” the debt thing is. Their pockets aren’t exactly bottomless.

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    143. 155 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      –Ricketts said he has “never bought into, ‘I should have a baseball guy to watch my baseball guy and his baseball guys.’ Then what do you get, a baseball guy to watch the baseball guy who’s watching your baseball guys?”

      Logic FAIL

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    144. 156 josh says:

      I think the fact that they’re calling it 2-3 weeks with a Grade 3 hopefully just means they’re wrong about the severity.

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    145. 157 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Berselius]http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/5868

      (dying laughing), Hendry just got a vote of confidence. He’s cooked.[/quote](dying laughing)

      I just think it’s unbecoming of a major-league franchise to be doing that kind of thing.

      Who. Fucking. Cares.

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    146. 158 mb21 says:

      By the way, I don’t really care if Hendry is fired or not. It’s not going to make a damn bit of difference with this organization. This team’s problems run a lot deeper than its general manager.

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    147. 159 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]Who. Fucking. Cares.[/quote]Exactly. Why does the owner of a franchise in a tailspin care about fucking t-shirts!?!?!
      [quote name=mb21]By the way, I don’t really care if Hendry is fired or not. It’s not going to make a damn bit of difference with this organization. This team’s problems run a lot deeper than its general manager.[/quote]THIS.

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    148. 160 ACT says:

      Q says Barn should only need 15 days. Somehow that makes me worry more.

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    149. 161 ACT says:

      This team is like the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant team, only with less talent and even more mishaps.

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    150. 162 mb21 says:

      Exactly. Why does the owner of a franchise in a tailspin care about fucking t-shirts!?!?!

      I quoted Bruce Miles for what it’s worth. What I said in response could be said for what Ricketts said too.

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    151. 163 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ACT]Q says Barn should only need 15 days. Somehow that makes me worry more.[/quote]Then it has to be grade 1. That’s a reasonable timetable for that injury. 2-4 weeks is about what you’d expect.

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    152. 164 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]Q says Barn should only need 15 days. Somehow that makes me worry more.[/quote]Yeah, something about this doesn’t pass the smell test.

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    153. 165 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]I quoted Bruce Miles for what it’s worth. What I said in response could be said for what Ricketts said too.[/quote]Ah, yeah. It’s a pretty pointless thing to be upset about.

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    154. 166 Rice Cube says:

      Wow the Indians really crashed.

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    155. 167 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Wow the Indians really crashed.[/quote]Regression is a cruel mistress.

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    156. 168 ACT says:

      Theriot was caught stealing today.

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