Sources: #Marlins close to acquiring Carlos Zambrano from #Cubs. #MLB — Ken Rosenthal. The most interesting thing if this is true is going to be how much money the Cubs save. I don’t expect they get much or anything of real value in return. Zambrano just isn’t that good these days after his VWL performance it’s hard to even argue he has much left in the tank. I’ll post more as more information becomes available.
One of my favorite Zambrano memories is when he ejected the umpire. Lots of laughs.
h/t to Bubblesdachimp
UPDATE: Zambrano is owed $18 million and there’s an option for another year at the same amount if he finishes in the top 4 in the Cy Young voting. Not gonna happen. He’s projected to be worth somewhere between .7 and 2 WAR. The average is probably somewhere around 1.5. At $5 million per win that makes him worth $7.5 million. His trade value is -$10.5 million. This means the Cubs will have to send along that amount to get $0 in return. If they want some kind of prospect they’d have to send more.
It’s important to note that these trade values are an average so it doesn’t mean that every player is equal to that. If I had to guess right now I’d guess that the Cubs send $12 million and get some 23 year old pitching prospect in A ball or AA who has serious command issues, but some upside.
I am really kinda sad. He was my favorite Cubs and was always an entertaining guy.. Sad to see him go but wish him nothing but the best.
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]I am really kinda sad. He was my favorite Cubs and was always an entertaining guy.. Sad to see him go but wish him nothing but the best.[/quote]Correct.
Having said that he had to go.. The atlanta bullshit was my final straw. Still will miss him batting. Thank god he didnt go to an AL team.
Zambrano for Josh Johnson, then flip him for Kyle Lohse.
Look at Lou’s face……classic.
I’ve updated the thread
I don’t know what that means.
ChiTribRogers Phil Rogers
Another way to facilitate deal cld be for #cubs to take closer Juan Carlos Oviedo, who is uncertain for ’12 in false identity case.
ChiTribRogers Phil Rogers
@Ken_Rosenthal says #cubs are close to dealing Big Z to #marlins. With #cubs paying most of Z’s salary, cld 3B Matt Dominguez be in play?
[quote name=GBTS]I don’t know what that means.[/quote]It means that he has probably already waived it. That they dont need to ask him
Is Rosenthal saying he would need to waive his no-trade clause, if he hasn’t already? That’s my only interpretation. That’s god-awful writing, even for Twitter.
(dying laughing) @ Rogers. There are illiterate paraplegics who could do his job better.
[quote name=GBTS]Is Rosenthal saying he would need to waive his no-trade clause, if he hasn’t already? That’s my only interpretation. That’s god-awful writing, even for Twitter.[/quote]I am so confused. He is saying that Zambrano has a NTC and he would have to accept the deal but he probably already has accepted it.
Thats what i took
either that or 2 =288
I thought he meant Z might already have played for Ozzie.
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]It means that he has probably already waived it. That they dont need to ask him[/quote]Rosenthal’s tweet confuses me. I like apple pie, because the sentence structure seems twisted.
I’m an ass, I misread that. I didn’t see the “to” in between “would” and “play.” Changes everything.
Bubbles had no problem interpreting it
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Bubbles had no problem interpreting it in the third person[/quote].
Favorite Carlos moment might have been the Homerun off of Octavio Dotel in I want to say 2003 in houston.. Super important game. Was so mad we didnt Pinch Hit and he smoked one.
Joe Fucking Mather ——————–> Cubs
http://twitter.com/#!/Kevin_Goldstein/status/154641853696847873
Last remnant of 2003 right?
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Last remnant of 2003 right?[/quote]Unless Wood re-signs.
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]Joe Fucking Mather ——————–> Cubs
http://twitter.com/#!/Kevin_Goldstein/status/154641853696847873/quoteI think MB showed earlier today how the Cubs have hardly any shitty outfielders on the 40-man, so it makes sense.
[quote name=Suburban kid]I think MB showed earlier today how the Cubs have hardly any shitty outfielders on the 40-man, so it makes sense.[/quote]Good to know who your 9th pitcher and 18th outfielder are.
http://www.halosheaven.com/2012/1/4/2682571/moneyblog#storyjump
Greatest blog post every.
[quote name=GBTS]http://www.halosheaven.com/2012/1/4/2682571/moneyblog#storyjump
Greatest blog post every.[/quote]
I was going to comment and tell them that, but I don’t feel like waiting 24 hours.
[quote name=Aisle424]I was going to comment and tell them that, but I don’t feel like waiting 24 hours.[/quote]Lazy bastard
People keep talking about Chris Volstad// That would be awesome
JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
marlins are indeed close to acquiring carlos zambrano, as @Ken_Rosenthal reported. deal could be official tomorrow.
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]People keep talking about Chris Volstad// That would be awesome[/quote]http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/volstch01.shtml
I would go with “meh” in general, but beggars can’t be choosers in this case.
[quote name=Rice Cube]http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/volstch01.shtml
I would go with “meh” in general, but beggars can’t be choosers in this case.[/quote]
hes a good rebound candidate. He was very highly thought of.
JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
hearing chris volstad is going to cubs in zambrano deal. #marlins
[quote name=Rice Cube]http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/volstch01.shtml
I would go with “meh” in general, but beggars can’t be choosers in this case.[/quote]
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]hes a good rebound candidate. He was very highly thought of.[/quote]
Plus he’ll only be 25. I’d be shocked if the Marlins gave him up for Zambrano unless the Cubs are paying his entire salary and maybe also sending along some sort of prospect as well.
Count me as “meh” on Volstad. But that would still be a good return for Z.
He seems to not strike anyone out…
i think volstad is atrocious
BleacherNation Brett Taylor
RT @cst_Cowley Big Z trade is a wrap, according to a source. The new best clubhouse in the biz just added a touch of crazy!
cubs absorb all but mlb min per mlbtraderumors…
TheCCO ChicagoCubsOnline
(@clarkspencer) #cubs will eat all of Zambrano’s $18 million salary minus minimum in trade with #marlins for Volstad
[quote name=Snyds01]cubs absorb all but mlb min per mlbtraderumors…[/quote]Soriano better pack a bag. Cubs are clearing the decks, methinks.
Wow Theo really I mean really wanted him gone..
ESPNChiCubs Bruce Levine
Cubs and marlins agree on trade that sends p Carlos Zambrano in exchange for Chris volstad .cubs pay 15 of 18 million .
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Wow Theo really I mean really wanted him gone..[/quote]I dunno. More like he wanted that contract off the book. This is a salary dump.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I dunno. More like he wanted that contract off the book. This is a salary dump.[/quote]Except he’s paying it….
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]ESPNChiCubs Bruce Levine
Cubs and marlins agree on trade that sends p Carlos Zambrano in exchange for Chris volstad .cubs pay 15 of 18 million .[/quote]Wait wut. Conflicting reports!
What are we to make of HR/FB%? Aside from poor strikeout numbers, seems like Volstad has had some inflated totals in that regard in his worst seasons. 3.6 xFIP last season, FWIW.
I don’t have anything up here yet, but will add to it: new thread up
http://www.obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/cubs-trade-carlos-zambrano-to-marlins-for-chris-volstad.html