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  • 4-game sweeps are always fun

    Despite watching only a batter here and there, I wanted to watch this series. For one thing, I figured the Cubs would finally put an end to all of this Pirates as a contending team stuff to rest. They did. Second, it had been awhile since I really sat down and watched Cubs baseball and figured I had enough distance at this point so that I could just enjoy the game for what it is: a game. That I did. Finally, for some reason I really thought the Cubs were going to play good baseball this series. Part of that was because I fully expected them to put an end to the Pirates hopes of contending and part of it was just one of those feelings that you get. They played good baseball.

    Zambrano had a solid start, Wells easily had the best start of his season, Garza was dominating, the Cubs scored some runs, ran the bases well for the most part, didn’t fuck up too much defensively and just seemed the superior team. It’s been awhile since we can say that about the Cubs. It’s probably going to be awhile before we can say it again unless they invest large sums of money in the club this offsesaon.

    Sweeping a team in 4 games is very tough to do. If we say the two clubs were evenly matched, ignore home field advantage, we basically have a coin flip for each game. The odds of one team sweeping the series would be 6.25%. There’s a reason the Cubs haven’t swept the Pirates in Pittsburgh over 4 games since 1959. It’s not easy to do. That, and there probably haven’t been that many 4-game series in Pittsburgh between these two teams.

    If we apply a 5% home field advantage, we get the Pirates with a 55% chance of winning each game. We’re still considering the teams equal and ignoring starting pitchers. It’s good enough for our purposes. Now we’re down to 4.1%.

    If somebody had just started watching baseball this series they’d probably think the Cubs were a pretty good team. They’d think much less of the Pirates, but that’s baseball. In small samples just about anything can happen. But I don’t care about the small samples. I made a point to watch Cubs baseball for the first time in some time and I quite enjoyed it.

    To be honest, it reminded me of watching Cubs baesball much of my life. You know, seasons in which they’re not in contention. Yeah, those. It’s not as exciting as playoff bound baseball, but it’s baseball and it’s enjoyable just the same. I’m sure Tim will have a picture of the day coming up, but I wanted to at least say that I enjoyed 2011 Cubs baseball at one point. It was hard to do and it took a long time, but this series was a lot of fun.


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    95 Responses to “4-game sweeps are always fun”

    1. 1 Rice Cube says:

      I think the Cubs players actually had fun today.

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    2. 2 ACT says:

      This reminds me in some ways of the Cubs/Padres series last year. The Padre’s like the Pirates, were way over their heads in terms of standings, and the Cubs put them out of their misery.

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    3. 3 mb21 says:

      I had fun today and let’s be honest, RC, that’s all that matters. From now on, ask yourself one question: did mb21 have fun?

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    4. 4 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]I had fun today and let’s be honest, RC, that’s all that matters. From now on, ask yourself one question: did mb21 have fun?[/quote]
      I’m not sure I want to be in the same room when that happens.

      /scared

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    5. 5 binky says:

      I just want to point out that I totally called sweep earlier in the week.

      /broke-clocked.

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    6. 6 binky says:

      I was able to watch two of the games and listen to most of the third on the radio. Good games. Lots of fun. I’m sorry I missed today with the big comeback.

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    7. 7 ZappBrannigan says:

      Random fact: Soto has thrown out 32% of runners this year, tied for 4th best in the MLB.

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    8. 8 Berselius says:

      I’ve been thinking the same thing, MB. This is the first series in weeks that I’ve watched multiple games. I’m not going to pretend that the Cubs are going to contend (see the comments about how the Cubs are still not in a great position even if they win their next 20 games), but these games reminded me that I like just hanging out and watching baseball sometimes.

      Also, I had no idea how much of a mirage the Pirates record was until I wrote the preview for this series. Holy shit, they might be as bad as the Cubs. I’m glad the Cubs season didn’t work out the same way because they didn’t try to trade for players with the illusion that they’re contending.

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    9. 9 AndCounting says:

      It’s easy to forget how enjoyable it is to watch the Cubs win when it never happensl

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    10. 10 binky says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I’ve been thinking the same thing, MB. This is the first series in weeks that I’ve watched multiple games. I’m not going to pretend that the Cubs are going to contend (see the comments about how the Cubs are still not in a great position even if they win their next 20 games), but these games reminded me that I like just hanging out and watching baseball sometimes.

      Also, I had no idea how much of a mirage the Pirates record was until I wrote the preview for this series. Holy shit, they might be as bad as the Cubs. I’m glad the Cubs season didn’t work out the same way because they didn’t try to trade for players with the illusion that they’re contending.[/quote]Yeah, their GM seemed pretty realistic about their chances.

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    11. 11 Berselius says:

      On the other hand, that wild Cards-Brewers game yesterday reminded me of how much I missed watching contending baseball. (dying laughing).

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    12. 12 binky says:

      I’m thinking the 5th starter should be 3 innings of Lopez, 3 innings of Ramon Ortiz and that’s it.

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    13. 13 binky says:

      Just watching some clips. That McDonald guy is really tall.

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    14. 14 AndCounting says:

      [quote name=josh]I’m thinking the 5th starter should be 3 innings of Lopez, 3 innings of Ramon Ortiz and that’s it.[/quote]It’s a coin flip that either of them would last that long. (dying laughing)

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    15. 15 Berselius says:

      [quote name=josh]I’m thinking the 5th starter should be 3 innings of Lopez, 3 innings of Ramon Ortiz and that’s it.[/quote]
      I love that Sullivan is bitching that Lopez is pitching while Coleman is pitching in AAA (dying laughing). Not a ton of difference there at this point.

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    16. 16 binky says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]It’s a coin flip that either of them would last that long. (dying laughing)[/quote]I know, but 4 innings is pushing it too far, I think.

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    17. 17 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=josh]Yeah, their GM seemed pretty realistic about their chances.[/quote]
      It was nice that the Pirates “bought” Derrek Lee and Ryan Ludwick for next to nothing.

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    18. 18 Rice Cube says:

      Speaking of rental players, Kosuke had a pretty decent April night against the Red Sox.

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    19. 19 ACT says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I love that Sullivan is bitching that Lopez is pitching while Coleman is pitching in AAA (dying laughing). Not a ton of difference there at this point.[/quote]Coleman is young. Also, he might help himself a bit with the bat and glove. That’s about it, though.

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    20. 20 Rice Cube says:

      Thome —> 598 HR

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    21. 21 ACT says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]It was nice that the Pirates “bought” Derrek Lee and Ryan Ludwick for next to nothing.[/quote]Yeah, it was a kind gesture to the fans who wanted the team to look like it was trying to make something happen.

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    22. 22 ACT says:

      [quote name=Berselius]
      Also, I had no idea how much of a mirage the Pirates record was until I wrote the preview for this series. Holy shit, they might be as bad as the Cubs. I’m glad the Cubs season didn’t work out the same way because they didn’t try to trade for players with the illusion that they’re contending.[/quote]Baseball Prospectus projects the Pirates as being slightly worse than the Cubs.

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    23. 23 ACT says:

      Link: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/
      The Pirates are a “true” .453 team, while the Cubs are .465. Of course, prediction models are imprecise, so this is well within experimental error, I assume. I think it’s safe to say that they’re about the e same talent level: well-below-average, but not horrible, teams.

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    24. 24 Suburban kid says:

      Hi, I’m Troy McLure. You’re reading this in my voice, aren’t you?

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    25. 25 AndCounting says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]Hi, I’m Troy McLure. You’re reading this in my voice, aren’t you?[/quote](dying laughing)

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    26. 26 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    27. 27 Mish says:

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    28. 28 Mish says:

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    29. 29 WaLi says:

      …huh?

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    30. 30 Mish says:

      [quote name=WaLi]…huh?[/quote]See the on-duty manager.

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    31. 31 Mish says:

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    32. 32 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish][/quote]
      Nice marmot.

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    33. 33 WaLi says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Nice marmot.[/quote]Also, let’s not forget – let’s *not* forget, Dude – that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city – that aint legal either.

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    34. 34 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    35. 35 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=WaLi]Also, let’s not forget – let’s *not* forget, Dude – that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city – that aint legal either.[/quote]
      Who gives a shit about the fucking marmot?!

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    36. 36 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]See the on-duty manager.[/quote]

      You know, you’re not funny.

      Why can’t you just be cool? You’re the uncoolest person here.

      by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 7:47 PM CDT upreply

      .

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    37. 37 mb21 says:

      Somebody has to be the uncoolest person. Someone should inform Al.

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    38. 39 Mish says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint].[/quote]
      Is that Al or Dr. Aneus Taint speaking?

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    39. 40 binky says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/8/3/2342981/who-is-the-best-player-you-could-imagine-the-cubs-getting-via-trade#73839237[/quote]That comment thread is fap worthy. Why would anyone post on that site?

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    40. 41 WaLi says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint].[/quote]I don’t like your jerk-off name. I don’t like your jerk-off face. I don’t like your jerk-off behavior, and I don’t like you, jerk-off. Do I make myself clear?

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    41. 42 Mish says:

      I could imagine a deal

      Of Soto, Barney, and Dolis for Zobrist and a B starting pitching prospect.

      Angel Guzman is the man.

      by zambranofan on Aug 4, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply

      Hahaha idiot.

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    42. 43 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]Is that Al or Dr. Aneus Taint speaking?[/quote]
      That’s all Alvin.

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    43. 44 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=WaLi]I don’t like your jerk-off name. I don’t like your jerk-off face. I don’t like your jerk-off behavior, and I don’t like you, jerk-off. Do I make myself clear?[/quote]
      I’m sorry, I wasn’t reading.

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    44. 45 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=josh]That comment thread is fap worthy. Why would anyone post on that site?[/quote]
      To be cool.

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    45. 46 GBTS says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/8/3/2342981/who-is-the-best-player-you-could-imagine-the-cubs-getting-via-trade#73839237[/quote](dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    46. 47 Mish says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]To be cool.[/quote]You’re not cool.

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    47. 48 GBTS says:

      [quote name=WaLi]Also, let’s not forget – let’s *not* forget, Dude – that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city – that aint legal either.[/quote]What are you, a fucking park ranger now?

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    48. 49 GBTS says:

      (dying laughing)
      The Cubs have only 5 less wins than the White Sox.

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    49. 50 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]You’re not cool.[/quote]
      Maybe, but you’re the uncoolest.

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    50. 51 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=GBTS](dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)[/quote]
      My favorite part is Alvin saying, “This isn’t junior high. And you’re not cool.”

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    51. 52 Mish says:

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    52. 53 Mish says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]My favorite part is Alvin saying, “This isn’t junior high. And you’re not cool.”[/quote]It’s lines like this that occasionally make me think Al is a bit. If only that were the case…

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    53. 54 WaLi says:

      [quote name=Mish]It’s lines like this that occasionally make me think Al is a bit. If only that were the case…[/quote]As Mr. Cat says, You crazy Al.

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    54. 55 JMan says:

      I like how the Pirates immediately went into the toilet right after Hendry used them as an example of how quickly a team can turn it around and so the Cubs can contend next year. Delusional.

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    55. 56 GBTS says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]My favorite part is Alvin saying, “This isn’t junior high. And you can’t beat me up and steal my Rick Monday lunch box and Superman comics anymore.“[/quote].

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    56. 57 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Spencer McDonald-Sopoaga-J. Smith Rogers

      A. Smith-Bowman-Willis-Haralson

      Whitner R. Smith

      Man. All those Smiths make this the Matrix Reloaded defense.

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    57. 58 binky says:

      [quote name=JMan]I like how the Pirates immediately went into the toilet right after Hendry used them as an example of how quickly a team can turn it around and so the Cubs can contend next year. Delusional.[/quote]Brief hot streak in the middle of the season = World Series. It’s perfectly logical.

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    58. 60 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=josh]Brief hot streak in the middle of the season = World Series. It’s perfectly logical.[/quote]
      You forgot about the shitty division. The problem is that its the Cubs that beat them. One or two more wins in a row and we will start hearing from Tommy about how this is more like the team they broke camp with because they are finally healthy.

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    59. 61 binky says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]You forgot about the shitty division. The problem is that its the Cubs that beat them. One or two more wins in a row and we will start hearing from Tommy about how this is more like the team they broke camp with because they are finally healthy.[/quote]I know, I’m worried about that too. And the Red have been up and down, so that series could go either way. Really, it won’t matter. Once you (read: the Cubs) have committed to a narrative as completely as they have, no one’s going to change your mind.

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    60. 62 Dr. Aneus Taint says:
    61. 63 Mish says:

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    62. 64 Mish says:

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    63. 65 Mish says:

      ^^^ reminds me of the Cubs

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    64. 66 dylanj says:

      49ers 49ers49ers

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    65. 67 Allen Iverson says:

      We talkin’ ’bout practice.

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    66. 68 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=dylanj]49ers 49ers49ers[/quote]
      sucksucksuck

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    67. 69 dylanj says:

      i liked their moves yesterday

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    68. 71 ACT says:

      Lots of days off for this home day game following a road night game.

      SS Castro

      CF Campana

      3B Ramirez

      1B Pena

      2B DeWitt

      LF Soriano

      RF Colvin

      C Hill

      P Dempster

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    69. 72 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=dylanj]i liked their moves yesterday[/quote]
      Adding a starting WR, starting C and starting SS for about $10 million in a couple of days is pretty good.

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    70. 73 ACT says:

      Q looks willing to let the winning streak die at 5.

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    71. 74 Berselius says:

      Hence…

      … the factor: “Clean Up Your Act”.

      Then, I won’t have to look any more.

      by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions

      For some reason this is what cracked me up the most. We need to start an Al Yellon reality show competition called “The Factor” (dying laughing)

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    72. 75 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mish]b, your expertise is needed:

      http://www.cracked.com/article_19360_7-questions-you-didnt-know-could-be-answered-with-math.html/quote
      That’s not math, just shittily justified modeling. Except maybe the bike one.

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    73. 76 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Berselius]For some reason this is what cracked me up the most. We need to start an Al Yellon reality show competition called “The Factor” (dying laughing)[/quote]
      Each week he would “ban” one contestant by saying, “You are the uncoolest.”

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    74. 77 Allen Iverson says:

      Not a game. Practice.

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    75. 78 dylanj says:

      MaioccoCSN Matt Maiocco
      49ers’ deal for WR Braylon Edwards is $1M base w/no guaranteed money. He only gets full $3.5M if he catches 90 passes and makes Pro Bowl.

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    76. 79 dylanj says:

      thats a crazy good deal for SF

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    77. 80 binky says:

      [quote name=ACT]Q looks willing to let the winning streak die at 5.[/quote]He’s trying to win ballgames here. He’s not going to let petty streaks get in the way of that.

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    78. 81 dylanj says:

      49ers committed $16 mil in 2011 to Akers, Rogers, Goodwin, Whitner, Edwards, Williams. Raiders committed $16 mil in 2011 to Michael Huff.

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    79. 82 Berselius says:

      [quote name=dylanj]thats a crazy good deal for SF[/quote]
      Yeah, that’s nuts. I’m surprised Edwards couldn’t get more from some other team.

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    80. 83 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=dylanj]49ers committed $16 mil in 2011 to Akers, Rogers, Goodwin, Whitner, Edwards, Williams. Raiders committed $16 mil in 2011 to Michael Huff.[/quote]
      Saw that tweet last night.

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    81. 84 The Wreckard says:

      It’s not as exciting as playoff bound baseball, but it’s baseball and it’s enjoyable just the same.

      Amen brother.

      As much as I would much, much rather watch a competitive baseball team, baseball is still fucking fun to watch. The Cubs have some players who really good at baseball (Garza, Castro, Marmol) and I like watching people who are good at baseball play baseball.

      I know some other season ticket holders who haven’t even bothered going to the games and I don’t get it. I still go whenever I have tickets. I’d rather watch bad baseball on a warm sunny Saturday with a Red Stripe in my hand at Wrigley than not watch baseball at all.

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    82. 85 AB says:

      I live out in Denver. you guys should hear the Sports Radio out here regarding the Rockeis and the Ubaldo trade.

      paraphrasing:
      “I dare you to find another MLB franchise that takes such an arrogant and know-it-all stance on player transactions and franchise direction”

      “The way the Rockies trashed Ubaldo’s trade value was utterly disgraceful”

      haha tones of home.

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    83. 86 mb21 says:

      [quote name=AB]I live out in Denver. you guys should hear the Sports Radio out here regarding the Rockeis and the Ubaldo trade.

      paraphrasing:
      “I dare you to find another MLB franchise that takes such an arrogant and know-it-all stance on player transactions and franchise direction”

      “The way the Rockies trashed Ubaldo’s trade value was utterly disgraceful”

      haha tones of home.[/quote]Yeah, AB, I’ve really started to take a different approach to everything I thought I knew about the Cubs. It’s not fair for me to criticize them if it’s something every other organization does and the truth is, I don’t have the foggiest damn clue what every other organization does. I do know that trashing players isn’t exclusive to Chicago. I’d prefer the Cubs didn’t do it, but I’d also prefer the Rockies didn’t do it.

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    84. 87 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=mb21]Yeah, AB, I’ve really started to take a different approach to everything I thought I knew about the Cubs. It’s not fair for me to criticize them if it’s something every other organization does and the truth is, I don’t have the foggiest damn clue what every other organization does. [/quote]
      TEX doesn’t do it. They’re cool.

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    85. 88 Mish says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]TEX doesn’t do it. They’re cool.[/quote]This isn’t jr high.

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    86. 89 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]TEX doesn’t do it. They’re cool.[/quote]
      They have The Factor

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    87. 90 WaLi says:

      I’m sure Tim will have a picture of the day coming up

      false.

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    88. 91 Rice Cube says:

      My favorite part is Alvin saying, “This isn’t junior high. And you can’t beat me up and steal my Rick Monday lunch box and Superman comics anymore.”

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    89. 92 Rice Cube says:

      ^ Don’t know if there’s a color version of the Rick Monday photo, and the lunch box should probably be blue, but there’s your random Photoshop project du jour.

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    90. 93 JMan says:

      So Michael Cuddyer is a FA this year. Unless he signs an extension he is the Cubs 2012 starting 3B.

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    91. 95 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]there’s your random Photoshop project du jour.[/quote]
      Who are you talking to?

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