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  • Midseason look at the Cubs top prospects, part 1

    I figured now was a good time to post something about the Cubs top prospects since it’s past the midway point in the full minor league seasons. The short-season teams just got under way. I’m using Sickel’s top 20. I’m breaking this into three parts. I’ll cover 11-20 here and then 1-10 while the final part will focus on players not ranked, but deserving of being discussed for one reason or another. It could be a draft pick from this season. Could just be a breakout season or something. Here we go.

    20) Welington Castillo, C, Grade C: Very effective against runners, has some power, but on-base skills are sketchy.

    He was injured early on and spent some time on a rehab in Daytona, which didn’t go particularly well. Since returning to Iowa all he’s done is hit. His triple slash line in just over 150 plate appearances at Iowa is .316/.386/.618. Yeah, a .302 ISO. The park-adjusted wOBA is .437, which is 20% better than league average (120 wRC+). He got 13 plate appearances with the Cubs when Geovany Soto was injured and had only 2 hits. Before you start going all crazy and stuff, he was a .344 wOBA hitter last season at Iowa and .292 the year before in Tennessee. He’s good enough to be a back-up. That’s especially true when the current back-up is Koyie Hill. John Guab would be an adequate back-up catcher when Hill is on the roster and Gaub is a left-handed reliever.

    Castillo is still just 24 years old and doesn’t turn 25 until next April. That’s relatively young for a catcher. It’s hard to believe he won’t be the back-up next season, but I said the same thing last year. He’s definitely improved on his Grade C rating, but he has been in AAA for awhile.

    19) Ben Wells, RHP, Grade C: Hasn’t pitched  yet, but seventh round pick from Arkansas high school has potential as a hard-throwing starter.

    Wells scouting report at the time he was drafted by Baseball America said this about him:

    Ben Wells pitched at 84-87 mph most of his amateur career, but by the end of this spring he was throwing 90-94 mph and pitching a five-inning perfect game in the state 7-A championship game. The 6-foot-3, 200-pound righthander has a good feel for pitching, too, as he pounds the strike zone with a three-pitch mix that also includes a hard slider and splitter. He committed to Crowder (Mo.) JC and now is drawing attention from Southeastern Conference schools. Wells has the size and stuff to go in the first five rounds of the draft, though he may not have been scouted extensively enough to go that high.

    Wells just joined the Boise Hawks when their season opened and he’s made 3 appearances, 2 of which were starts. He’s allowed 15 hits in 13.2 innings and walked 5 while striking out 11. Way too early to evaluate anything he’s done this season so we’ll leave it at that.

    18) Jin-Yeong Kim, RHP, Grade C+: Will he be worth the big bonus?

    Like Wells, Kim is at Boise and has also made 3 appearances and 2 starts. In 8.2 innings, he’s allowed 11 hits, walked 7 and struckout 3.

    17) Austin Kirk, LHP, Grade C+: Breakthrough candidate for 2011.

    The left-handed starter was a 3rd pick out of high school for the Cubs in 2009. So far, he has had a breakout season this year. In 84.1 innings, he’s allowed only 63 hits, walked only 20 and has struckout 72. At Peoria all season, he’s gotten roughed up in his last 3 starts, which have totaled 14 innings, 20 hits, 13 runs allowed, 5 walks and 12 strikeouts. His tRA has been 4.25, which is good for a 108 tRA+.

    Kirk made the Midwest League All-Star team this year.

    16) Su-Min Jung, RHP, Grade C+: Wasn’t great at Peoria, but I think he can get better faster than people anticipate.

    The 6-2 righty turned 22 on April 1st. He hasn’t gotten any better either. He’s gotten worse. Last season he struckout 79 in 89 innings and walked 39. This year he has walked 20 and struckout 19 in 39.2 innings. He has a 5.40 tRA as a starter and it’s close to 8.00 as a reliever.

    15) Brooks Raley, LHP, Grade C+: Was very effective in the second half.

    Raley isn’t a strikeout pitcher. Last year he struckout 97 in in 136.1 innings at Daytona. This year at Tennessee he’s struckout 46 in 80 innings. If you’re not going to strikeout a lot of batters, you need to have really good control. Raley’s isn’t terrible by any means, but last year he walked 43 and this year he’s already close to that. He’s not striking out enough batters at the moment to be considered a serious candidate for the rotation in the future. He turned 23 a few days ago so it’s likely any future for Raley is as a reliever and possibly just a LOOGY.

    14) Brett Wallach, RHP, Grade C+: Another one (live arm, needs polish).

    The Cubs acquired Wallach when they traded Ted Lilly to the Dodgers last year. He was unimpressive in his 7 starts in the organization at Peoria last season and has been equally unimpressive this year in terms of runs allowed. He does have a pretty good tRA, which is 9% better than average in the Southern League. He does have a 5.58 ERA. He doesn’t turn 23 until December so they may as well leave him as a starter for now and see if he can reduce the hits allowed.

    13) Rafael Dolis, RHP, Grade C+: Another guy in the live arm/needs polish brigade.

    Dolis made 4 starts this season before moving into the bullpen full time. I thought it was a little strange at the time, but it’s proven a decent move. His numbers as a reliever aren’t all that impressive. He has just 34 strikeouts and 19 walks in 47.1 innings. He’s also allowed 45 hits. He turns 24 next January and is currently on the Cubs 40-man roster. Unless his numbers improve in the second half of the season, he’s a good candidate to be taken off the roster.

    12) D.J LeMahieu, INF, Grade C+: I think people are a bit too down on him; he could surprise this year.

    Ryno and I nearly killed each other over this draft pick in 2009. The Cubs used their second selection in 2009 to draft LeMahieu. Ryno wasn’t too impressed with the first pick, Brett Jackson. I was thrilled with that one and saw some upside in LeMahiue considering his young age at the time of the draft and being a college player.

    Although he has no power at all, he’s still been a good hitter since the Cubs drafted him. His park-adjusted wOBA in 2009 was .356. It was .345 in 2010 at Daytona and then this season he hit everything in sight. Prior to his big league promotion, he had a .399 wOBA at AA. He rarely played for the Cubs and was recently sent to Iowa. He doesn’t take many walks and has lived on a particularly high BABIP most of his professional career. It’s worked so far for him in the minors, but it’s likely he’s going to have to become more selective or add some power in order to continue posting the quality batting lines he has so far. He turns 23 in 11 days. It’s too bad he couldn’t stick at SS. He’s played 2nd and 3rd this season in the minors. Total Zone and UZR really liked his defense in the very small sample he had at the big league level. It’s likely he’s a very good fielder at either position considering he was once a SS.

    11) Marquez Smith, 3B, Grade C+: Not young, but ready to help at the major league level and can catch people off-guard.

    I was stunned last year when the Cubs did not add Smith to their 40-man roster. All he did last year at Iowa was post a .416 park-adjusted wOBA. He’s not your ideal 3rd baseman in that he doesn’t have a lot of power, but he’s a terrific fielder and makes up for his lack of power. He was older than usual for a prospect, but that’s an impressive wOBA. He’s done it throughout his career, too. His wOBAs since he was drafted have been .424 (72 PA), .416 (357), .305 (146), .348 (55), .356 (450), .307 (52), .416 (342) and this year it’s .368 in 250 plate appearances. He can hit.

    But apparently I’m the only one who thinks he can be a productive player at the big league level because the Cubs did not protect him and not one team took him in the Rule 5 Draft. So there’s obviously something I’m missing, which isn’t too surprising since I’ve not seen him play. There’s something in his game that scouts do not think is going to translate well to the next level. There has to be. I don’t know what it is, but it’s there.


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    182 Responses to “Midseason look at the Cubs top prospects, part 1”

    1. 2 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Are the Cubs as bad as they seem at developing prospects, relative to other teams? And, if so, how much of that blame rests on Hendry, seeing as this system is 100% his. He’s overseen it for over a decade, and these people are his people. Of course, if he’s succeeding at about the same rate as everyone else, then there’s not much to bitch about.

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    2. 3 ACT says:

      Adam Dunn starting in right.

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    3. 4 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Are the Cubs as bad as they seem at developing prospects, relative to other teams? And, if so, how much of that blame rests on Hendry, seeing as this system is 100% his. He’s overseen it for over a decade, and these people are his people. Of course, if he’s succeeding at about the same rate as everyone else, then there’s not much to bitch about.[/quote]The Cubs have gotten less value out of their farm system than a lot of other teams, but imagine if Mark Prior stayed healthy. That would change everything in terms of WAR.

      When Hendry was the Director of Player Development and Scouting, the Cubs had the best farm system in all of baseball. It just happened to not produce nearly as much talent as expected as some got hurt and some just didn’t progress as expected.

      If we looked at prospects lists for all teams like this I’d imagine we’d see similar rates of failure. Guys who shoot up the rankings are ones who had a breakout season. Jay Jackson, Rich Hill, and even Trey McNutt. None of them should have been ranked as high as they were and I imagine it’s like that with other organizations.

      The biggest reason I see for the Cubs lack of talent in the minor leauges is that they haven’t spent money. That’s not on Hendry. They were in the bottom 5 in draft signing bonuses from 2006 through 2010. I think they started to spend some on international free agents last year, but it seems like it’s been a decade since they were all that active on that front.

      The Cubs are cheap. They had a cheap ass owner in the Tribune and they have a cheap ass owner in Tom Ricketts. Cubs baseball.

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    4. 5 Berselius says:

      [quote name=mb21]I like how he says he’s replacement level and then posts a number (tOPS+) that compares his OPS in that particular split to his total OPS while the other one (sOPS+) compares him to the league’s split total OPS. In other words, he’s comparing Castro’s OPS in the 3rd spot to all other number 3 hitters.[/quote]
      Also that he mentioned replacement level then listed stats that compare vs average instead of replacement level

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    5. 6 Berselius says:

      [quote name=ACT]Adam Dunn starting in right.[/quote]
      Dammit, now I really want to watch this game. fucking fox. (dying laughing)

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    6. 7 bubblesdachimp says:

      Bubbles=====> google chrome

      Bubbles====> post at work

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    7. 8 bubblesdachimp says:

      So how much money has Aramis made for himself by not sucking.

      3-45?? Is that too much?

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    8. 9 Berselius says:

      [quote name=bubblesdachimp]So how much money has Aramis made for himself by not sucking.

      3-45?? Is that too much?[/quote]
      Probably more like 2-25 or 3-35

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    9. 10 Berselius says:

      Cuey tossed. Is that his first ejection?

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    10. 11 Berselius says:

      Carlos Silva ——-> released back to the ocean

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    11. 12 ACT says:

      The Sox apparently didn’t do their scouting on Pena. Most teams know to prepare for the bunt (especially with no outs).

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    12. 13 Berselius says:

      (dying laughing), since Cuey was ejected so quickly Fox is going to do the manager interview with Wood instead

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    13. 14 Esposito says:

      [quote name=Berselius](dying laughing), since Cuey was ejected so quickly Fox is going to do the manager interview with Wood instead[/quote]
      Gotta be better than interviewing Dempster doing his Harry Caray impression . . .

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    14. 15 GBTS says:

      [quote name=Berselius](dying laughing), since Cuey was ejected so quickly Fox is going to do the manager interview with Wood instead[/quote]I liked how Kerry essentially said, “If they try to trade me, I will flip a fucking shit” without actually saying it.

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    15. 16 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Esposito]Gotta be better than interviewing Dempster doing his Harry Caray impression . . .[/quote]
      +37 LSA Rec’d NAMBLA

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    16. 17 bubblesdachimp says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Probably more like 2-25 or 3-35[/quote]
      What should the Cubs offer him before we buy him out. He can still hit….

      Anyone doing DMB next weekend?

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    17. 18 bubblesdachimp says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Carlos Silva ——-> released back to the ocean[/quote]

      This made bubbles giggle

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    18. 19 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]Adam Dunn starting in right.[/quote](dying laughing)

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    19. 20 bubblesdachimp says:

      kosuke has seen like 16 pitches in two at bats

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    20. 21 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      HIT IT TO RF

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    21. 22 GBTS says:

      I hope Dunn makes a sliding catch in right so it reignites the “WE SHOULD HAVE SIGNED HIM NOT BRADLEY” crowd, even though a sliding catch for Dunn is a can of corn for any other RF in baseball history.

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    22. 23 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Colon is pwning the Mets, despite the fact that the shadow of his ass weighs 20 lbs.

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    23. 24 bubblesdachimp says:

      No one going to DMB? on the southside

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    24. 25 ACT says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]HIT IT TO RF[/quote]Or hit a bunch of double play balls. Whatever.

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    25. 26 Horny Goat says:

      I’m surprised I don’t get the game here in NE. Usually every Cubs game is even if the yankees are playing.

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    26. 27 ACT says:

      This is one reason most teams don’t like to put a groundball hitter in the 3-hole.

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    27. 28 GBTS says:

      That play saved seven runs.

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    28. 29 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      (dying laughing) @ Bay pulling an Edmonds. Jogs after a lazy liner in the gap just so he can make a diving grab.

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    29. 30 Berselius says:

      [quote name=GBTS]That play saved seven runs.[/quote]
      I’m guessing you’re also listening to Zonk (dying laughing)

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    30. 31 Berselius says:

      GASP Zonk just said no-hit ZOMG

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    31. 32 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]This is one reason most teams don’t like to put a groundball hitter in the 3-hole.[/quote]Quade is thinking so far outside the box, he’s thought his way back into the box.

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    32. 33 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Quade is thinking so far outside the box, he’s thought his way back into the box.[/quote]
      Quade thinks so far outside the box, he’s thinking on a torus

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    33. 34 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Adam Dunn is fucking brutal right now.

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    34. 35 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Halladay ————–> 64th career CG

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    35. 36 GBTS says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I’m guessing you’re also listening to Zonk (dying laughing)[/quote]No, FOX. It was just that stunningly brilliant.

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    36. 37 bubblesdachimp says:

      Garza is dope

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    37. 38 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      Holy crap, the TV radar gun has Bartolo Colon at 95 mph.

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    38. 39 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Gee just threw a Maddux-esque circle change.

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    39. 40 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Swisher is really struggling with Gee’s change.

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    40. 41 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Dillon Gee is pitching with his mind, according to Joe Buck.

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    41. 42 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Jose Reyes ———–> out with hamstring problem

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    42. 43 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Jose Reyes ———–> out with hamstring problem[/quote]
      At least it won’t hurt the Mets playoff chances

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    43. 44 Mish says:

      I don’t want to jinx anything but did you know…

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    44. 45 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]At least it won’t hurt the Mets playoff chances[/quote]They need Francoeur back. (dying laughing)

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    45. 46 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Mish]I don’t want to jinx anything but did you know…[/quote]That Bob Brenly gives free mustache rides to bad white MIF?

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    46. 47 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      I just have it on MLB radio, but it sounds like Garza is dealing.

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    47. 48 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]I just have it on MLB radio, but it sounds like Garza is dealing.[/quote]45 pitches through 5

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    48. 49 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Soto. Ugh. Dude.

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    49. 50 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Jason Bay has only 4 HR this year.

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    50. 51 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I wish I could see this Cubs game. Marvelously pitched on both sides thus far.

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    51. 52 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I wish I could see this Cubs game. Marvelously pitched on both sides thus far.[/quote]
      me too. Can’t believe it’s not showing here. Garza with a no-hitter going? damn.

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    52. 53 Horny Goat says:

      ruh roh

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    53. 54 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      It would be so Cub to lose a no-hitter on a SF (dying laughing)

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    54. 55 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      All falling apart now. Fack.

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    55. 56 Horny Goat says:

      damn P.ierre

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    56. 57 Mish says:

      (dying laughing) juan pierre

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    57. 58 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Adam Dunn is going to HR here.

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    58. 59 Horny Goat says:

      Sound like Garza has just missed so many times

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    59. 60 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Whew. Relieved to be wrong. (dying laughing) Adam Done.

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    60. 61 Horny Goat says:

      walk Konerko? maybe not

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    61. 62 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I would IBB Konerko to face AJ, but I don’t think it matters too much.

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    62. 63 Horny Goat says:

      AJ probably would’ve hit that HR (dying laughing)

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    63. 64 Horny Goat says:

      cubs with a rally. Hit it over the fence!

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    64. 65 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Average speed!

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    65. 66 Horny Goat says:

      ah jeez!

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    66. 67 Horny Goat says:

      Pat Hughes grilling Robbie Gould about the NFL lockout

      another popup

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    67. 68 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Green Flash Hop Head Red is fucking outstanding beer.

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    68. 69 Horny Goat says:

      who’s doing the game on Fox?

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    69. 70 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Green Flash Hop Head Red is fucking outstanding beer.[/quote]
      sounds like a superhero

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    70. 71 Horny Goat says:

      c’mon Byrdy

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    71. 72 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Horny Goat]who’s doing the game on Fox?[/quote]Kenny Albert and Karros. Karros blows.

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    72. 73 Berselius says:

      The Cubs are so good at what they do

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    73. 74 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Horny Goat]sounds like a superhero[/quote](dying laughing), I said the same thing when I first tried Green Flash. They make outstanding beer, though. Hops and malt and plenty of both. Exactly how I like it.

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    74. 75 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=cwolf]Kenny Albert and Karros. Karros blows.[/quote]Karros is maybe the worst announcer outside of Hawk Harrelson.

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    75. 76 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Berselius]The Cubs are so good at what they do[/quote]
      The best Jerry, the best!

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    76. 77 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Karros is maybe the worst announcer outside of Hawk Harrelson.[/quote]
      pretty bold statement. Hawk is probably the worst EVER, at least for homerism.

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    77. 78 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]The Cubs are so good at what they do[/quote]This team is just so painfully ordinary.

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    78. 79 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Horny Goat]pretty bold statement. Hawk is probably the worst EVER, at least for homerism.[/quote]But at least that gives Hawk character. Karros is all the bad of Hawk without any discernible style. It’s just paradigmatically bad commentary.

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    79. 80 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Karros is maybe the worst announcer outside of Hawk Harrelson.[/quote]Grace is right up there for me too. Hawk is in a league of awful of his own.

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    80. 81 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]But at least that gives Hawk character. Karros is all the bad of Hawk without any discernible style. It’s just paradigmatically bad commentary.[/quote]
      yeah. I misread what you wrote, that Hawk was the worst. That said, I can’t tolerate Hawk at all anymore even for entertainment value.

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    81. 82 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder] Karros is all the bad of Hawk without any discernible style. It’s just paradigmatically bad commentary.[/quote]You do have a way with words, MO. Pierre

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    82. 83 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=cwolf]Grace is right up there for me too. Hawk is in a league of awful of his own.[/quote]
      agreed on both points

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    83. 84 Horny Goat says:

      great play by Cassie?

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    84. 85 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Colon is pwning the Mets, despite the fact that the shadow of his ass weighs 20 lbs.[/quote]I wonder why we don’t hear the same shit about Rothschild that we do Duncan.

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    85. 86 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Horny Goat]great play by Cassie?[/quote]Chopper up the middle. Nice play but I wouldn’t say great. Theriot probably doesn’t make it but most real SS would. Cassie made it look easy.

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    86. 87 mb21 says:

      [quote name=bubblesdachimp]No one going to DMB? on the southside[/quote]The only thing I know as DMB is Diamond Mind Baseball.

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    87. 88 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Dillon Gee is pitching with his mind, according to Joe Buck.[/quote]Buck should not be allowed to call Yankees games. Pairing the worst announcer in history with the greatest franchise in history is just not right.

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    88. 89 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]I wonder why we don’t hear the same shit about Rothschild that we do Duncan.[/quote]Agreed. Also worth pointing out that Rothschild found out about Colon’s fucked up hammy and slightly altered his mechanics so he could keep pitching. Ol’ Larry is damn good at what he does.

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    89. 90 cwolf says:

      [quote name=mb21]Buck should not be allowed [/quote].

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    90. 91 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Soto guns down another basestealer. He has been outfuckingstanding behind the dish this season.

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    91. 92 mb21 says:

      Makes you wonder how long that shoulder had been hurting him.

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    92. 93 Horny Goat says:

      I promise I won’t call him Fuckadome anymore (dying laughing)

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    93. 94 mb21 says:

      The Yankees are so fun to watch.

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    94. 95 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]Makes you wonder how long that shoulder had been hurting him.[/quote]No kidding. 22 CS vs. 42 SB this season. Fucking nice.

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    95. 96 Horny Goat says:

      sound like Castro just missed a double twice down RF

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    96. 97 cwolf says:

      Cassie really battled in that AB.

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    97. 98 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=cwolf]Cassie really battled in that AB.[/quote]He really ought to be hitting 2nd, but I am more excited about him than ever. I think he’s a season away from being an really good player.

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    98. 99 Mish says:

      Garza starting the 9th. I gotta say, I’ve been impressed with Garza, after watching him the last few years as a Ray/Twin.

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    99. 100 Mish says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]He really ought to be hitting 2nd, but I am more excited about him than ever. I think he’s a season away from being a nice little player.[/quote].

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    100. 101 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Mish]Garza starting the 9th. I gotta say, I’ve been impressed with Garza, after watching him the last few years as a Ray/Twin.[/quote]He’s been nothing short of outstanding this year. I still worry that once his HR/FB rate normalizes for Wrigley, it won’t be so good, but he’s been a great addition and fun to watch.

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    101. 102 cwolf says:

      Garza was fucking brilliant today.

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    102. 103 Horny Goat says:

      it might be up to Ramirez. Pena vs Thornton doesn’t look promising. Maybe he should lay down a bunt (dying laughing)

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    103. 104 Horny Goat says:

      2 quick outs. pitching change again?

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    104. 105 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      This game has seen some utterly brilliant pitching by Garza, Humber, and Thornton.

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    105. 106 Mish says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]This game has seen some utterly brilliant pitching by Garza, Humber, and Thornton.[/quote]Good stuff, result aside. Enjoyed watching it.

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    106. 107 ACT says:

      I think Garza outpitched Humber. Humber got really lucky with the sequencing of events (Garza was pretty lucky, too, but less so).

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    107. 108 Rice Cube says:

      Was hoping they’d score a run so Garza could get off the hook. They can lose in extras (dying laughing)

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    108. 109 ACT says:

      Humber at least did a good job of keeping the ball on the ground.

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    109. 110 ACT says:

      Dunn’s SLG is 1 point higher than his OBP. And his OBP sucks.

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    110. 111 ACT says:

      Also, I love the irony that the first Cubs CG came in a loss. Sums up this team perfectly.

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    111. 112 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]Dunn’s SLG is 1 point higher than his OBP. And his OBP sucks.[/quote]Adam Done.

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    112. 113 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]Also, I love the irony that the first Cubs CG came in a loss. Sums up this team perfectly.[/quote]Oh, indeed.

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    113. 114 mb21 says:

      81 strikes in 114 pitches for Garza. Wow.

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    114. 115 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      RIDICULOUS SPECULATION ALERT: Were Cub fans more pissed off about Milton’s contract when he was here than they would be about Dunn’s if he were here now?

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    115. 116 cwolf says:

      Joe Cowley and Lou F. Cannelis with the Fox Chicago post-game. I’d never seen Joe Cowley before – I just assumed he was a grizzled mid-50′s moron. He is actually a 30-something asshole.

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    116. 117 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]81 strikes in 114 pitches for Garza. Wow.[/quote]He was nails today.

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    117. 118 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=cwolf]Joe Cowley and Lou F. Cannelis with the Fox Chicago post-game. I’d never seen Joe Cowley before – I just assumed he was a grizzled mid-50′s moron. He is actually a 30-something asshole.[/quote]Wait until you run into him at a bar. Total d-bag, in demeanor and dress.

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    118. 119 ACT says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]RIDICULOUS SPECULATION ALERT: Were Cub fans more pissed off about Milton’s contract when he was here than they would be about Dunn’s if he were here now?[/quote]Only if Dunn were black.

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    119. 120 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]Only if Dunn were black.[/quote]It’s an interesting question that I think resists such a simple answer. I think Cub fans, as down as most seem to be on Hendry, would be pretty pissed off about how shitty Dunn has been. And he’d be playing the field here, which would only exacerbate his shittiness.

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    120. 121 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Wait until you run into him at a bar. Total d-bag, in demeanor and dress.[/quote]I hope that day never comes.

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    121. 122 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=cwolf]I hope that day never comes.[/quote]Yes. It’s not a good time.

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    122. 123 ACT says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]It’s an interesting question that I think resists such a simple answer. I think Cub fans, as down as most seem to be on Hendry, would be pretty pissed off about how shitty Dunn has been. And he’d be playing the field here, which would only exacerbate his shittiness.[/quote]I wonder if his downfall has anything to do with switching leagues or becoming DH. I know that there is often a dip in offensive production when someone becomes a DH, but, of course, Dunn’s case is extreme.

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    123. 124 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Wait until you run into him at a bar. Total d-bag, in demeanor and dress.[/quote]Dude wears a dress?

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    124. 125 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]Dude wears a dress?[/quote](dying laughing), no, but he dresses like a d-bag.

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    125. 126 Berselius says:

      MO, did you catch him trolling twitter yesterday? Colin and some of the Braves/Phillies bloggers took the bait and were having a fun time making fun of him.

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    126. 127 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]I wonder if his downfall has anything to do with switching leagues or becoming DH. I know that there is often a dip in offensive production when someone becomes a DH, but, of course, Dunn’s case is extreme.[/quote]Yeah, Dunn’s been adamant throughout his career that he feels like he needs to play the field, and I think Ozzie putting him in the field lately is a response to that plea. But I also think we’d have to realize that even if Dunn were here hitting, the defense in RF or LF (however they would have decided to play he and Soriano) would be so bad, that his benefit at the plate would be mitigated.

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    127. 128 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Berselius]MO, did you catch him trolling twitter yesterday? Colin and some of the Braves/Phillies bloggers took the bait and were having a fun time making fun of him.[/quote]Cowley? No, but it doesn’t surprise me. He did the same shit last year.

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    128. 129 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Cowley? No, but it doesn’t surprise me. He did the same shit last year.[/quote]
      (dying laughing), just read his feed.

      http://twitter.com/#!/cst_cowley

      It’s like a primer on how to be an asshole internet troll

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    129. 130 bubblesdachimp says:

      This team is fucking bad

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    130. 131 GW says:

      http://twitter.com/#!/ElioParra88/status/87270726989660162

      Cubs may have signed that catcher, not sure.

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    131. 132 ACT says:

      That’s what it (firmó) means. Does “7 cifras” mean “7 figures”?

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    132. 133 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]That’s what it (firmó) means. Does “7 cifras” mean “7 figures”?[/quote]Firmo means signature, and cifras, roughly translated, means numbers.

      At the very least, the Cubs are spending money today, which is a sign of hope–for me, at least.

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    133. 134 ACT says:

      “firmó” (with the accent) is the past tense (third person singular) of “frimar,” meaning, “to sign.” So, it means, “he signed.”

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    134. 135 ACT says:

      *firmar

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    135. 136 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]“firmó” (with the accent) is the past tense (third person singular) of “frimar,” meaning, “to sign.” So, it means, “he signed.”[/quote]right. I speak a fair amount of Spanish, but my option key is a bit spotty nowadays. (dying laughing)

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    136. 137 ACT says:

      Looks as though “cifra” can mean “figure” or “digit”: http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/es-en/cifra.php

      So, the tweet translates to: Marck Malavé signed with the Cubs for 7 figures. He already belongs to the Magallanes.

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    137. 138 ACT says:

      *By “already,” of course, I mean “also.”

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    138. 139 ACT says:

      http://twitter.com/#!/CarlosValmore/status/87230376656896000

      Translation: For Marck Malavé, signed by the Cubs for 7 figures, his offensive potential stands out, because he can hit for power from both sides.

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    139. 140 Mucker says:

      I’ve got one episode left in Breaking Bad Season 3 and Holy Fucking Shit!!! Insane.

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    140. 141 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Muckey]I’ve got one episode left in Breaking Bad Season 3 and Holy Fucking Shit!!! Insane.[/quote]That next to last episode in season 3 was one of the best of the series.

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    141. 142 Mucker says:

      [quote name=mb21]That next to last episode in season 3 was one of the best of the series.[/quote]Just finished it. Fucking awesome.

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    142. 143 Bubba Biscuit says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, Dunn’s been adamant throughout his career that he feels like he needs to play the field, and I think Ozzie putting him in the field lately is a response to that plea. But I also think we’d have to realize that even if Dunn were here hitting, the defense in RF or LF (however they would have decided to play he and Soriano) would be so bad, that his benefit at the plate would be mitigated.[/quote]
      Dunn would be playing 1B for this team if they signed him. The fans would probably be really pissed and screaming about letting Hoffpauir go to Japan and not giving Colvin a real shot at first. That is a tough one, but I think the 4 yr $56 mil deal for Dunn would not get more hate then Bradley’s deal. Even with the 2 first basemen on the market this off-season and this team saying they couldn’t afford even trying for either of them because of Dunn would drive the fans mad, but not mad enough to match the Bradley hate. The thing with Bradley was the media narrative from day 1 that Hendry was taking a chance on a diva ballplayer with major personal issues but thought he would be ok in the head and mouth and produce enough to compensate for slip ups and didn’t come close to either one. The fans bought into it, Bradley started his Cubs tenure with two strikes before grabbing a bat and couldn’t fight his way out of that hole.

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    143. 144 Rice Cube says:

      If we’re still talking about prospects, BJax had a pretty good game tonight…3-for-4, 2 BB, with a double and RBI.

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    144. 145 GW says:

      [quote name=]Sorry, I had a source that said you were a girl

      I’m still not convinced my source was wrong though. It may be that you were a girl at the time my source told me that, but that things have changed since. So I stand by my source.

      by Wreckard on Jul 1, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply 2 recs
      [/quote]
      (dying laughing)

      http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/7/1/2254011/zambrano-leaves-game-early-but-goes-to-softball-game-later#70988181

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    145. 146 bubblesdachimp says:

      You know whats mildly amusing?

      Aramis Ramirez could very well be our only all star. And he might be deserving of it.

      He leads all NL third basemen in homeruns, OPS, Hits, and slugging. He is also second in RBI and second in batting average…

      Pretty weak year at 3B in the NL..

      I still think it will be Starlin BUT it would not shock me if we got two all stars in Castro and Ramirez

      http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/position/3b/league/nl

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    146. 147 bubblesdachimp says:

      [quote name=GW](dying laughing)

      http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/7/1/2254011/zambrano-leaves-game-early-but-goes-to-softball-game-later#70988181/quote
      That was pretty amusing.. However i kinda like that Al has been so Pro-Z in that piece. I am very Pro-Z

      However its pretty weak that on Tuesday I now have to watch Ramon Ortiz pitch. (dying laughing)

      At least i will get to see Garza on thursday

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    147. 148 ACT says:

      Aramis is having a solid year. I’d put Headley and Roberts ahead of him (and maybe Polanco, but it’s close).

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    148. 149 GBTS says:

      [quote name=GW](dying laughing)

      http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/7/1/2254011/zambrano-leaves-game-early-but-goes-to-softball-game-later#70988181/quoteHoly shit does Alvin respond to that like a child.

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    149. 150 ACT says:

      Today’s lineup is exactly the same, only with Lopez (gag) in the 9-spot.

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    150. 151 ACT says:

      I think it’s funny that once we got all the position players healthy and in the lineup the score…0 runs.

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    151. 152 ACT says:

      Carlos Marmol and Sean Marshall have both allowed 10 runs in 38.1 innings. Either of them would be fine as an All-Star selection.

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    152. 153 melissa says:

      That stuff wasn’t even related to this. You like to mock people? What a sad life you must lead. Join us for complete MLB coverage at SB Nation’s Baseball Nation by Al Yellon on Jul 1, 2011 6:10 PM CDT

      Truly, indeed, what a sad life you must lead, Wreckard. You know you’ve gotten his panties in a major bunch when he pontificates about the meaning of your existence. (dying laughing)

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    153. 154 ACT says:

      [quote name=ACT]Carlos Marmol and Sean Marshall have both allowed 10 runs in 38.1 innings. Either of them would be fine as an All-Star selection.[/quote]I might also add that Marshall’s stats are somewhat biased, since Q’s been using him more against left-handed hitters (which is a good thing, of course). Also, most of Marmol’s runs are tied up in one disastrous outing. Marmol may well be having the better year of the two pitchers, though it’s probably to close to call. Flip a coin (or pick both).

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    154. 155 melissa says:

      Since Cuey is going to be on Bochy’s staff there might actually be more than one Cub on the All-Star roster. I do think it’s fairly likely Brian Wilson will be selected because he’s Bochy’s guy. I don’t expect there to be room for Marshall and Marmol both, it will probably just depend on whether or not Bochy thinks he needs a righty or a lefty.

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    155. 156 ACT says:

      Z’s replacement is Ramon Ortiz. I konw it’s just temporary but… yuck.

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    156. 157 Berselius says:

      Why The Dark Knight Returns was necessary

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    157. 158 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=ACT]Z’s replacement is Ramon Ortiz. I konw it’s just temporary but… yuck.[/quote]
      The #1 pick plan is working according to…plan.

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    158. 159 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=ACT]I think it’s funny that once we got all the position players healthy and in the lineup the score…0 runs.[/quote]
      It’s the beauty of short hops.

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    159. 160 Berselius says:

      Sounds like Castro ——-> ASG

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    160. 161 Berselius says:

      That or Gordo just really likes shouting his name on twitter

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    161. 162 Berselius says:

      NL Starters

      McCann
      Fielder
      Weeks
      Reyes
      Polanco
      Braun
      Berkmania
      Kemp

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    162. 163 ACT says:

      [quote name=Berselius]NL Starters

      McCann
      Fielder
      Weeks
      Reyes
      Polanco
      Braun
      Berkmania
      Kemp[/quote]Nice defensive outfield! Let’s hope the AL doesn’t hit any flyballs.

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    163. 164 Berselius says:

      Wow, no Paul Konerko

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    164. 165 ACT says:

      Combined UZR of NL outfield = -16.8.

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    165. 166 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=ACT]Combined UZR of NL outfield = -16.8.[/quote]
      I assume Kemp is in CF and will probably pull several muscles trying to cover the entire outfield by himself.

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    166. 167 ACT says:

      Anyway, the only changes I’d make to the NL starters are replacing McCutchen or Upton for Berkman and Headley for Polanco. Good job, voters!

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    167. 168 ACT says:

      Or Victorino in the OF.

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    168. 169 Mish says:

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    169. 170 ACT says:

      I’m really impressed that Reyes beat out Tulo.

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    170. 171 Berselius says:

      PItchers – lots of SFG

      Hanrahan
      Halladay
      Lee
      Timmay
      Cain
      Wilson’s Beard
      Vogelsong
      Clippard

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    171. 172 Rice Cube says:

      Bruce Bochy’s the NL manager, but I thought Vogelsong was a bit of a stretch.

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    172. 173 Mish says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Bruce Bochy’s the NL manager, but I thought Vogelsong was a bit of a stretch.[/quote]Bumgarner has been more valuable than Vogelsong, but given it’s in AZ, I don’t see how Daniel Hudson is not going.

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    173. 174 Berselius says:

      Position players

      Upton
      Chipper
      Castro
      Phillips
      Bruce
      Votto
      Tulo
      Gaby Sanchez
      Pence
      Carlos Beltran
      Holliday
      Yadi

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    174. 175 Rice Cube says:

      If Aramis is to go it seems like he’d have to go on on that Final Ballot. Or as an injury replacement.

      Who’s the super-utility guy this year?

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    175. 176 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mish]Bumgarner has been more valuable than Vogelsong, but given it’s in AZ, I don’t see how Daniel Hudson is not going.[/quote]
      Bumgarner has been super-unlucky W/L record wise so maybe they’re looking at that. So has Lincecum and Cain, for that matter, so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about (dying laughing)

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    176. 177 ACT says:

      Cole Hamels got snubbed pretty bad.

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    177. 178 Mish says:

      I don’t think there’s much precedent for a “super utility” guy, the Infante pick last year was just weird. A lot of players just play wherever, and they’ll be enough bodies where it won’t matter. AL could have been smarter and taken Ben Zobrist though.

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    178. 179 ACT says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Bumgarner has been super-unlucky W/L record wise so maybe they’re looking at that. So has Lincecum and Cain, for that matter, so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about (dying laughing)[/quote]Unlucky to be backed by the Giants’ offense, that is.

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    179. 181 ACT says:

      AL:

      1B Adrian
      2B Cano
      3B A-Rod
      SS Groundout
      OFCurtis
      OF Hamilton
      OF Joey
      DH Papi

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    180. 182 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mish]I don’t think there’s much precedent for a “super utility” guy, the Infante pick last year was just weird. A lot of players just play wherever, and they’ll be enough bodies where it won’t matter. AL could have been smarter and taken Ben Zobrist though.[/quote]
      I thought they set up that spot just so they can stick a guy anywhere in case someone got injured or didn’t want to play anymore. He’s not so much an “All-Star” as he is just kind of there to plug a hole.

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