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  • A comparison of two prospects: Brett Jackson and Anthony Rizzo

    The Cubs recently acquired top prospect Anthony Rizzo and some thought he may be the top prospect in the Cubs organization. I didn’t see how that would be possible when you consider their positions and John Sickels agrees with that. Both Brett Jackson and Rizzo were the top prospects of their organizations according to Baseball America prior to Rizzo joining the Cubs. I’m guessing he’ll be ranked 2nd in the Cubs organization. My opinion before I started looking more closely at it was that Jackson was the superior prospect by quite a bit.

    It’s important to point out that Rizzo is a year younger than Brett Jackson, but Jackson is young himself so I’m not sure how much of a factor this really is. I looked at the numbers for each stop along the way to compare the two.

    Rookie League

    Player PA H 2B 3B HR BA OBP SLG wOBA XBH% ISO BB% K%
    Rizzo 24 6 0 0 1 .286 .375 .429 .385 .045 .089 12.5% 8.3%
    Jackson 15 5 0 1 0 .455 .533 .636 .512 .067 .078 20.0% 26.7%

    Both players breezed through rookie league, but the age at which they did is most apparent at this level as Jackson went to college and Rizzo was drafted out high school.

    Brett Jackson had a stop in short-season rookie league while Rizzo was promoted directly to A ball.

    Low A

    Player PA H 2B 3B HR BA OBP SLG wOBA XBH% ISO BB% K%
    Rizzo 361 104 27 0 9 .317 .374 .482 .389 .101 .057 8.6% 20.8%
    Jackson 128 33 5 1 7 .295 .383 .545 .436 .107 .088 11.8% 25.2%

    Jackson continues to hit more extra base bits, walk considerably more often and also strikeout at a much higher rate than Rizzo. Both players had impressive stints in A ball.

    High A

    Player PA H 2B 3B HR BA OBP SLG wOBA XBH% ISO BB% K%
    Rizzo 364 88 28 0 8 .278 .357 .442 .359 .101 .079 9.8% 19.9%
    Jackson 312 83 19 8 6 .316 .420 .517 .424 .108 .104 14.8% 20.3%

    Jackson was in High A at age 21 while Rizzo was there at 19 and 20. Age doesn’t make up for the significant difference here. Jackson out-hit Rizzo in every way. Even the strikeout rate was nearly equal.

    Player PA H 2B 3B HR BA OBP SLG wOBA XBH% ISO BB% K%
    Rizzo 467 109 30 0 20 .263 .334 .481 .361 .108 .071 9.5% 21.6%
    Jackson 565 126 23 9 16 .266 .370 .454 .378 .086 .104 14.0% 24.3%

    Rizzo’s season at AA was basically the same as his season at High A. Jackson was worse at AA, but he’s still out-hitting Rizzo. Rizzo did hit for more power, but Jackson got on base at a much higher rate. Strikeouts become even more of a problem for Jackson while also becoming one for Rizzo at this point.

    AAA

    Player PA H 2B 3B HR BA OBP SLG wOBA XBH% ISO BB% K%
    Rizzo 413 118 34 1 26 .331 .404 .652 .433 .152 .073 10.8% 21.8%
    Jackson 215 55 13 2 10 .297 .388 .551 .404 .118 .091 11.8% 30.2%

    Rizzo had one of the most impressive offensive seasons of any minor leaguer last year. Jackson held his own too, but the strikeout rate becomes alarmingly high.

    Career

    Player PA H 2B 3B HR BA OBP SLG wOBA XBH% ISO BB% K%
    Rizzo 1629 425 119 1 64 .296 .366 .514 .385 .115 .070 9.7% 20.9%
    Jackson 1341 331 61 22 40 .292 .393 .491 .402 .094 .101 13.8% 24.0%

    Rizzo is more of a power hitter than Jackson, which shows in the slugging, extra base hit percentage and isolated power. Jackson is more patient at the plate though Rizzo isn’t at all impatient. Jackson is also going to strikeout a lot more. Overall, Jackson has been the better hitter by about 20 points of wOBA. The number there that most stands out to me is the number of triples each player has. Jackson is a considerably better athlete, which is why he’s playing CF and Rizzo is stuck at the other end of the defensive spectrum.

    As a result, Jackson is quite a bit better as a prospect than Rizzo. When you consider the defensive adjustment used in WAR, Rizzo would have be as much better as he was in AAA to be of equal value to Jackson. Centerfielders and Shortstops are worth +0.25 WAR for their position alone. 1st base is the easiest position on the field and the defensive adjustment is -1.25 WAR.

    As you can see, for Rizzo to be equal to Jackson he’ll have to be 1.5 WAR better as a hitter. Rizzo is also not a very good baserunner while we can expect Jackson to excel at it.

    Both of these players are good prospects and it’s awfully nice to have one organization’s top prospect as the Cubs number 2, but Jackson is the better prospect here and it’s not particularly close.

    CAIRO projects a .316 wOBA and 1.9 WAR for Brett Jackson over 600+ PA. It projects a .289 wOBA and 0.1 WAR for Rizzo over 450+ PA. Oliver projects a .330 wOBA and 1.5 WAR for Jackson and .339 wOBA and 0.6 WAR for Rizzo. Bill James projects a .342 wOBA for Jackson and .318 for Rizzo. So there are two who expect more offense from Jackson and overall, the value difference is significant. Brett Jackson is a very good prospect. There are reasons to be concerned. He strikes out a ton, but he does a lot of very good things. Rizzo is also a good prospect, but he’s going to have to hit more than Jackson has to in order to be successful.


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    31 Responses to “A comparison of two prospects: Brett Jackson and Anthony Rizzo”

    1. 1 Mish says:

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    2. 2 Mish says:

      Also, should be called “A Tale of 2 Prospects”, because there’s not enough Dickens on this blog.

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    3. 3 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=jtsunami](dying laughing)

      http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=685039&page=2

      SK lead me to believe that links were bad manners.[/quote]
      Links without any summary are bad, and people who post links willy-nilly with no description are bad people.

      You are still a good person, assuming you have not raped anyone, are steroid free, and do charity work.

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    4. 4 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mish].[/quote]:

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    5. 5 Mucker says:

      I’m not a stat nerd or a math major but don’t you get ISO by subtracting BA from SLG? Are your #s correct in the ISO field?

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    6. 6 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=Jon Heyman]#reds and #rays are in on ryan theriot, a versatile infielder with a excellent bat. #astros also have some interest[/quote](dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
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    7. 8 Mish says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]www.fuckyouall.co.uk[/quote]I won’t click that unless you tell me what it is.

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    8. 10 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mucker]I’m not a stat nerd or a math major but don’t you get ISO by subtracting BA from SLG? Are your #s correct in the ISO field?[/quote](dying laughing) I think I subtracted BA from OBP. I have no idea why I did that, but it’s too funny to change now.

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    9. 11 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid]www.fuckyouall.co.uk[/quote](dying laughing)

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    10. 12 uncle dave says:

      I didn’t see how that would be possible when you consider their positions and Men’s Fitness agrees with that.

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    11. 13 Mish says:

      [quote name=Mish]http://www.platoonadvantage.com/2012/01/peter-abraham-is-not-plagiarist-but-he.html[/quote]Here’s the money quote for you, SK

      So, since there’s little else to say, the story is told, and we are no longer under any obligation to censor our thoughts as regards to other writers or profanity, we all just want to say that this bitter, angry, thin-skinned, bullying, insecure bag of dicks can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. No wonder everyone thinks he’s an asshole.

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    12. 14 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      You should replace all that text and those tables with this:

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    13. 15 ACT says:

      KG also rates Rizzo behind Baez, though it’s hard to compare them at their different stages of development.

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    14. 16 ACT says:

      Levine says the Cubs are close to a 1-year deal with kWood.

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    15. 17 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      [quote name=Berselius]:[/quote]
      This is about motherfuckin’ periods

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    16. 18 Mish says:

      [quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]This is about motherfuckin’ periods
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      Which ruined my night last night, as your mom was on hers.

      BAZINGA

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    17. 19 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      [quote name=Aisle424](dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)[/quote]
      So let me see…. he gets paid by a MAJOR media publication to write about baseball. Yet, knows nothing of the sport or its players.

      I’m continued to be amazed by the amount of stupidity each of these journalists manage to have.

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    18. 20 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      [quote name=Mish]Which ruined my night last night, as your mom was on hers.

      BAZINGA[/quote]
      My mom is dead. Joke’s on you.

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    19. 21 jtsunami says:

      I didn’t realize Theriot’s bat was so excellent.

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    20. 22 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]My mom is dead. Joke’s on you.[/quote]Mish likes that shit.

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    21. 23 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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    22. 24 Mish says:

      [quote name=mb21]Mish likes that shit.[/quote]They put up less of a fight.

      It was 3 AM and she was in a graveyard, what did you expect would happen?

      /Castro apologist’d

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    23. 25 Mucker says:

      Necrophilia? No wonder people continue to blast this site for being complete shit.

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    24. 26 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

      [quote name=jtsunami]I didn’t realize Theriot’s bat was so excellent.[/quote]Did you know he was a versatile infielder?

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    25. 27 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

      [quote name=Mish]They put up less of a fight.

      It was 3 AM and she was in a graveyard, what did you expect would happen?

      /Castro apologist’d[/quote]Dead girls don’t say no.

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    26. 28 Snyds01 says:

      [quote name=Mish]They put up less of a fight.

      It was 3 AM and she was in a graveyard, what did you expect would happen?

      /Castro apologist’d[/quote]
      Necrophilia means never having to say you’re sorry.

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    27. 29 Mucker says:

      [quote name=WenningtonsGorillaCock]Dead girls don’t say no.[/quote]Neither do girls that are alive if you have chloroform.

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    28. 31 andrew says:

      It kinda seems like apples and oranges at this point because they have different qualities due to playing different positions. Hopefully Rizzo will get his batspeed up this year in AAA since he will less likely be brought up this year than jackson i think. Both should help the club a lot in the future and hopefully as soon as this year for jackson.

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