Matt Garza Rumors

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The Cubs have completed a couple of trades already and we'll have more on tha ttomorrow. For now, the Cubs are still talking with teams about Matt Garza and they'll continue to try to trade Ryan Dempster as well. MLBTR has collected the most recent info for Garza

Rosenthal says the Reds and Cubs are talking about a Matt Garza trade while Danny Knobler of CBS Sports says a deal with the Reds is unlikely. The Blue Jays are still interested and Jayson Stark says there's a "very high chance" he'll be traded. Along with the Blue Jays, Bruce Levine says the Rangers are interested. 

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  1. GW

    Jed Hoyer says the only way the Cubs were able to get 21-year-old Arodys Vizcaino from the Braves was because Paul Maholm is signed to a contract with an option for 2013, which the Braves figure to exercise. Said Hoyer: “It was hard (trading Maholm). We did control him for next year. That was a difficult decision, but it comes down to getting a 21-year-old with that kind of an arm. I don’t think we’d be able to get that kind of guy if (Maholm) was only under control for another couple of months.” Hoyer joked about the deal coming together after Ryan Dempster blocked a deal that would have sent him to the Braves for Randall Delgado last week. “We were aware Atlanta was in the market for a staring pitcher. That made these conversations a little bit easier … Obviously we were able to get a deal done with Atlanta. There were no hard feelings with their front office from what happened (with Dempster).”

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  2. BubbaBiscuit

    @ mb21:
    Agreed, if you only have one pull of the slot machine, would rather it be the $10 machine over the quarter machine.

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  3. mb21

    Considering Hoyer’s comments there, I’m wondering if the Cubs keep one of Dempster or Garza. Sounds like they didn’t really want to trade Maholm, which means they’re probably going to keep one, right?

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  4. BubbaBiscuit

    @ mb21:
    I don’t see why it should matter. If he gets the deal he wants, they he moves them. The comment about Maholm seems to me that maybe he thought they could get more for him in the off-season then now, but the right deal came along now.

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  5. mb21

    @ dylanj:
    Younger, more strikeouts, fewer walks, fewer home runs, fewer hits. This isn’t to knock Delgado who is a good prospect, but when you can get a guy who reaches the big leagues at age 20 and has a better than 4 to 1 K/BB ratio in the minor leagues you’re talking about a potentially awesome pitcher.

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  6. Andrew

    Signing maholm and Reed Johnson this offseason is looking like a stroke of genius. Probably less than 10 million commited to the two of them and it ends up turning into a top 40 prospect. Gives me some hope for what Camp could bring if coupled with Baker. Won’t be Vizcaino but might give us a legit talented prospect. Can’t wait to wake up to see what this team looks like in the morning.

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  7. bubblesdachimp

    mb21 wrote:

    Oh yeah, I’d much much much much much much much rather have Vizcaino than Delgado. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

    i liked him more then julio teahren coming into ST. I am ecstatic. Good move to get Mahoom and turn him into a long term asset. ANd kudos to Paul for pitching his ass off for the past month to make him that marketable.
    mb21 wrote:

    Considering Hoyer’s comments there, I’m wondering if the Cubs keep one of Dempster or Garza. Sounds like they didn’t really want to trade Maholm, which means they’re probably going to keep one, right?

    I assume tomorrow the following are gone in order of likelihood

    Dempster
    Garza
    Russell
    Baker
    Marmol
    Soriano
    LaHair.

    I think at least 4 go bye bye

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  8. bubblesdachimp

    No wonder Dale was so anxious to get by thursday deadline. Literally the whole team could be moving

    (dying laughing) i forgot about camp… (dying laughing)

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  9. Andrew

    @ mb21:

    I think there seems no doubt that Vizcaino has the better stuff, but based on what ive read on twitter from braves fans (great source i know), there is some concern that hes not durable enough to start.

    I still like him more than Delgado. It seems every pitcher gets TJ at some point and the recovery seems generally pretty solid. Vizcaino has the floor of a very good closer and the ceiling of an ace. Delgado seems like he will definitely be a number 3 guy nothing more nothing less. a good 3 is very valuable so thats not a knock on delgado but anybody thats major league ready with ace potential is moreso.

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  10. bubblesdachimp

    couple notes from law

    “The price for Atlanta, however, was too high. I had Vizcaino ranked as the 14th-best prospect in baseball coming into 2012, ”

    “Vizcaino alone is a tremendous return for what the Cubs gave up, a shot at a No. 2 or better starter in exchange for an extra outfielder and a pitcher anyone could have signed for $5 million last winter.”

    “but the Cubs land the best prospect they’re likely to obtain in this year’s trade market in exchange for two players they didn’t need”

    full article here

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/law_keith/id/8216730/analyzing-trade-braves-cubs-featured-paul-maholm-reed-johnson-arodys-vizcaino

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  11. Suburban kid

    Dempster “remains adamant that he will only approve a trade to the Dodgers,” reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Rosenthal says the Cubs and Dodgers are discussing Dempster and left fielder Alfonso Soriano. However, if the Dodgers acquire another target in outfielder Shane Victorino, they’d have little use for Soriano. With only one suitor, the Cubs’ only leverage is weak

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  12. Suburban kid

    The trade deadline is roughly 11 hours away, and we learned yesterday that the Cubs are talking Matt Garza with multiple clubs despite a fluid buildup in the righty’s triceps that will keep him from pitching until after the deadline passes. The Cubs moved Paul Maholm, Reed Johnson, and Geovany Soto on Monday; here’s the latest on Garza.

    The Rangers appear unlikely for Garza, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The Blue Jays and Reds appear to be more realistic matches.

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  13. Suburban kid

    The Marlins are begging teams to take Carlos Lee off their hands, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter).

    (dying laughing)

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  14. Suburban kid

    I’m starting to have second thoughts about going to a Cubs game when I am in Chicago. (dying laughing)

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  15. bubblesdachimp

    From Keith Laws top 100 prospects blurbs on Randall Delgado his #98

    One thing that became clear during the 2011 season about Atlanta’s troika of top pitching prospects is that Delgado, while a strong prospect in his own right, didn’t belong in the same discussion as Julio Teheran or Arodys Vizcaino. He didn’t possess Teheran’s stuff and projection, or Vizcaino’s control and plus breaking ball.

    On Vizcaino his #14 OVERALL prospect

    long term, he’s a three-pitch starter who has a history of plus control, and just needs time and health to become a No. 1 or No. 2 starter.

    This is a steal no matter how you cut it. The kid is still 21 years old and has absolutely dominated. It might also be good that he has already had TJS. Nowadays people are coming back stronger and better. Even if he never amounts to anything I really like the thought process of rolling the dice on a kid with an electric arm for a 5th starter and a 4th outfielder. Amazing deal IMO

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  16. bubblesdachimp

    Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale
    Alfonso Soriano has informed the #Cubs which teams he would be traded to but no offer yet

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  17. WaLi

    I guess Peter Jackson is somehow making The Hobbit into three movies. I haven’t read the book but I saw that cartoon movie ages ago and I don’t remember it being three movies long (dying laughing)

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  18. Perkins

    @ WaLi:
    I’d heard two, though that’s still one movie too long. I am kinda glad that it looks more adult in tone than the book, though.

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  19. mikeakaleroy

    @ josh:
    Yeah, Peter Jackson announced yesterday that The Hobbit will be three movies….seems like stretching it to me, but I’ll still see them

    From Peter-

    “So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of “The Hobbit” films, I’d like to announce that two films will become three. ”

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  20. Perkins

    @ mikeakaleroy:
    Well WTF. There’s some good stuff in Unfinished Tales and the LOTR appendices, but I still don’t see how you get three films out of that. Other than the fact that they’ll make a ton of money, anyway.

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  21. josh

    @ Perkins:
    You film every single second of the books, including songs, and add a bunch of bullshit from “after” LOTR so that Elijah Wood gets to be on the payroll. Then you add dramatic music and slow pans.

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  22. mikeakaleroy

    @ Perkins:
    And you may have hit it with the money aspect…

    From the rest of Jackson’s statement:

    We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance. The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth.

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  23. Perkins

    I’d pay good money to see the Downfall of Numenor or the events of the First Age on screen. As long as Peter Jackson isn’t allowed to screw up the characters like he did in LOTR.

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  24. Perkins

    @ GW:
    That’s probably best left to the books. I think that whole section would be like a bad acid trip for a casual fan. (dying laughing)

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  25. Suburban kid

    Rice Cube wrote:

    On the plus side, SOMEONE has to win that game, which means someone has to have played relatively good baseball by default…

    It’s like you’re in my mind circa August 2006.

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