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  • Rangers/Cardinals Game 7


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    131 Responses to “Rangers/Cardinals Game 7”

    1. 1 mb21 says:

      [quote name=GW]maybe something like a flaherty/carpenter type along with a non bonus-baby lower level guy?[/quote]I thought I read something about nobody on the 40-man would be included. Did I make that up? I think Flaherty is a decent guess. I’d prefer it be Vitters than him.

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    2. 2 Rice Cube says:

      Hit it to right!

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    3. 3 GW says:

      [quote name=mb21]I thought I read something about nobody on the 40-man would be included. Did I make that up? I think Flaherty is a decent guess. I’d prefer it be Vitters than him.[/quote]
      yeah, i think that is right.

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    4. 4 GW says:

      unfortunately, the 40 man is god-awful

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    5. 5 mb21 says:

      I doubt Carpenter would hold up any deal though. I really liked him when he was a starter, but as a reliever I’m not that impressed.

      Vitters or Flaherty? Who would you rather have if you’re Boston?

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    6. 6 mb21 says:

      Vitters is younger and obviously has more potential. Flaherty has a better chance of sticking in the big leagues. I’d rather have Flaherty if I’m Boston.

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    7. 7 GW says:

      [quote name=mb21]I doubt Carpenter would hold up any deal though. I really liked him when he was a starter, but as a reliever I’m not that impressed.

      Vitters or Flaherty? Who would you rather have if you’re Boston?[/quote]
      still vitters is my guess. easier to sell to the fanbase, and much younger

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    8. 8 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing) @ shitty pitching

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    9. 9 mb21 says:

      What a series Freese is having. His WPA last night was the best in any World Series game. Lance Berkman’s last night was 2nd best. Crazy.

      http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/18155/freeses-game-most-clutch-in-series-history

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    10. 10 binky says:

      Goooo Rangers.

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    11. 11 binky says:

      A rare good bunt by an AL pitcher.

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    12. 12 Rice Cube says:

      Actually a pretty decent bunt by Matt Harrison there.

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    13. 13 Suburban kid 23 says:

      What’s eatin’ ya, jerks?

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    14. 14 binky says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid 23]What’s eatin’ ya, jerks?[/quote]Shhhh.

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    15. 15 fang2415 says:

      Jesus, just finished watching game 6. What a fucking game. Eat shit and die, Holliday.

      Well. Now I get to go to bed and then crawl under a rock until I get a chance to watch game 7. (dying laughing)

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    16. 16 melissa says:

      [quote name=fang2415]Jesus, just finished watching game 6. What a fucking game. Eat shit and die, Holliday.

      Well. Now I get to go to bed and then crawl under a rock until I get a chance to watch game 7. (dying laughing)[/quote]
      Spoiler alert: the good news is you won’t have to watch Holliday in game 7.

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    17. 17 mb21 says:

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    19. 19 Rice Cube says:

      It’s kind of a testament to how good the Rangers are that they’re still favored in Game 7 even though they’re on the road and suffered an epic meltdown last night.

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    20. 20 Steve Swisher says:

      I really, really, really hate to say this, but I can’t see the Rangers winning. Between the gut-punch of last night’s game and Washington’s absolute inability to handle a bullpen, I just don’t see it. And oh how that displeases me.

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    21. 21 Mucker says:

      Is Dexter worth watching this season or is it the same old shit?

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    22. 22 Rice Cube says:

      Allen Craig > odds

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    23. 23 binky says:

      [quote name=Steve Swisher]I really, really, really hate to say this, but I can’t see the Rangers winning. Between the gut-punch of last night’s game and Washington’s absolute inability to handle a bullpen, I just don’t see it. And oh how that displeases me.[/quote]They are a talented team though, I wouldn’t count them out yet, even with the Craig homer.

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    24. 24 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing)

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    25. 25 Steve Swisher says:

      [quote name=josh]They are a talented team though, I wouldn’t count them out yet, even with the Craig homer.[/quote]
      I really hope you’re right. But unless they go into rout mode, I just can’t see the Rangers winning.

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    26. 26 binky says:

      To me, as long as the Cards don’t run away with it, the teams are evenly matched enough to hold out hope for the Rangers. Although at this point it looks like that’s going to depend on knocking Carpenter out of the game.

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    27. 27 Steve Swisher says:

      [quote name=josh]To me, as long as the Cards don’t run away with it, the teams are evenly matched enough to hold out hope for the Rangers. Although at this point it looks like that’s going to depend on knocking Carpenter out of the game.[/quote]
      But if they’re pretty close, then it comes down to managers. And you saw what happens when Washington makes, say, crucial bullpen decisions.

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    28. 28 Rice Cube says:

      Better hope the bullpen phone is broken then.

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    29. 29 binky says:

      [quote name=Steve Swisher]But if they’re pretty close, then it comes down to managers. And you saw what happens when Washington makes, say, crucial bullpen decisions.[/quote]He’s also won a lot of games, perhaps despite himself. He might get lucky.

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    30. 30 Rice Cube says:

      BUNT
      BUNT
      BUNT

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    31. 31 melissa says:

      [quote name=Steve Swisher]But if they’re pretty close, then it comes down to managers. And you saw what happens when Washington makes, say, crucial bullpen decisions.[/quote]
      LaRussa has made just as many bad calls in this series.

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    32. 32 Rice Cube says:

      TLR called that foul pop-out.

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    33. 33 binky says:

      Why not let Andrus bat there? He is one of the best on-base guys Wash has. Has he GIDP’d a lot this year?

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    34. 34 Suburban kid 23 says:

      Man, Rick Sutcliffe hated that bunt.

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    35. 35 binky says:

      C’mon MY

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    36. 36 binky says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid 23]Man, Rick Sutcliffe hated that bunt.[/quote]Did he tell you that in a dream?

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    37. 37 Suburban kid 23 says:

      Riotwag

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    38. 38 Suburban kid 23 says:

      [quote name=josh]Did he tell you that in a dream?[/quote]MLB International broadcast.

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    39. 39 binky says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid 23]MLB International broadcast.[/quote]Okay. Because I was going to tell you Jim Morrison’s opinion, but how I think it would be awkward.

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    40. 40 binky says:

      I’d really like to see an IBB here. That would be really exciting.

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    41. 41 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=josh]I’d really like to see an IBB here. That would be really exciting.[/quote]That was almost as good as an IBB.

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    42. 42 Rice Cube says:

      Random Molina clutch moment coming up. IBBs must be punished.

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    43. 43 Suburban kid 23 says:

      Sut hates the IBB too.

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    44. 44 binky says:

      If this inning blows up, that’ll be it.

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    45. 45 binky says:

      Don’t need to be clutch when the guy can’t throw strikes.

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    46. 46 Rice Cube says:

      That pitch had some mad movement on it.

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    47. 47 Rice Cube says:

      FAIL

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    48. 48 binky says:

      That was a good pitch. That’s too bad

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    49. 49 Steve Swisher says:

      With all the celebratory meth pipes lit tonight, you’ll be able to see the glow from space.

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    50. 50 Rice Cube says:

      THAT was not a good pitch (dying laughing)

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    51. 51 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      Allen Craig has been ridiculous this series.

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    52. 52 binky says:

      [quote name=Steve Swisher]With all the celebratory meth pipes lit tonight, you’ll be able to see the glow from space.[/quote]True enough, but whoever wins, the other town will be lit up in consolatory meth pipes.

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    53. 53 ACT says:

      Tony lets Carp “hit” to lead off an inning. Takes him out after facing 1 batter. Genius.

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    54. 54 ACT says:

      Of course, Wash’s IBB is still the official Bonehead Managerial Move of the Game.

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    55. 55 binky says:

      [quote name=ACT]Of course, Wash’s IBB is still the official Bonehead Managerial Move of the Game.[/quote]Yep.

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    56. 56 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mucker]Is Dexter worth watching this season or is it the same old shit?[/quote]I’ve liked it so far. It’s not as good as it once was, but it’s still good. Homeland is better.

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    57. 57 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Steve Swisher]But if they’re pretty close, then it comes down to managers. And you saw what happens when Washington makes, say, crucial bullpen decisions.[/quote]I think all managers make stupid decisions and can’t manage their bullpen. I wouldn’t consider that a point in favor of either team. I also wouldn’t consider it a point in favor of any other team. All managers suck. (dying laughing)

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    58. 58 ACT says:

      Just from watching Texas this postseason, I suspect that Wash is worse than average (and TLR is perhaps better than average). In any case, I have a whole new respect for Mike Quade.

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    59. 59 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      Not that you asked me but I’ve liked Dexter as well.

      MB- I thought Sons has been much better lately also.

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    60. 60 binky says:

      At this point the Rangers problem isn’t Ron Washington, it’s their inability to string together some hits.

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    61. 61 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Suburban kid 23]Sut hates the IBB too.[/quote]I think most players do. I also think most fans do. They may not hate them as much as I do. (dying laughing)

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    62. 62 ACT says:

      Wash puts Andrus toward the top of the order, LaRussa puts Theriot at the top of the order, Q puts Barney and Campana at the top of the order… the only team I noticed that top-loaded their lineups was Boston, and that’s because they had so many awesome hitters.

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    63. 63 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]Not that you asked me but I’ve liked Dexter as well.

      MB- I thought Sons has been much better lately also.[/quote]I didn’t watch season 3, but heard good things about its direction entering this season so I’ve watched. It’s better than the end of season 2. So I agree, it’s improved. I still have some issues though. Jax wants out, but becomes a drug mule? Tara wants out and thinks Jax will, but sits around with all kinds of violence going on around her? Opie’s Dad was killed by Clay making it two loved ones killed by the same man. Opie let the wife thing go. Is he really going to do it this time? Can the show survive without Clay? I don’t see how Opie doesn’t kill Clay and I don’t see how the show continues without Clay. Odd position to put yourself in, but it’s been better.

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    64. 64 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ACT]Wash puts Andrus toward the top of the order, LaRussa puts Theriot at the top of the order, Q puts Barney and Campana at the top of the order… the only team I noticed that top-loaded their lineups was Boston, and that’s because they had so many awesome hitters.[/quote]I agree with what you’ve said. I don’t know that TLR is better than Wash, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s marginally better. I don’t think it really matters though. Most managers hurt their team when it comes to the decisions they make.

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    65. 65 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Steve Swisher]With all the celebratory meth pipes lit tonight, you’ll be able to see the glow from space.[/quote](dying laughing)

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    66. 66 binky says:

      [quote name=ACT]Wash puts Andrus toward the top of the order, LaRussa puts Theriot at the top of the order, Q puts Barney and Campana at the top of the order… the only team I noticed that top-loaded their lineups was Boston, and that’s because they had so many awesome hitters.[/quote]Andrus has a .347 OBP. I’d say he seems like an okay #2 hitter.

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    67. 67 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ACT]Of course, Wash’s IBB is still the official Bonehead Managerial Move of the Game.[/quote]That, and not telling Kinsler to be stupid after getting to 1st. How many times does Molina have to erase him from the bases?

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    68. 68 mb21 says:

      [quote name=josh]Andrus has a .347 OBP. I’d say he seems like an okay #2 hitter.[/quote]The best 5 hitters should hit in the top 5. There’s some advantage to placing them in different spots, but if a team puts their best 5 in the top 5 spots I can’t complain. Is Andrus one of the 5 best Rangers hitters? I don’t know, but I doubt it.

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    69. 69 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      [quote name=mb21]I didn’t watch season 3, but heard good things about its direction entering this season so I’ve watched. It’s better than the end of season 2. So I agree, it’s improved. I still have some issues though. Jax wants out, but becomes a drug mule? Tara wants out and thinks Jax will, but sits around with all kinds of violence going on around her? Opie’s Dad was killed by Clay making it two loved ones killed by the same man. Opie let the wife thing go. Is he really going to do it this time? Can the show survive without Clay? I don’t see how Opie doesn’t kill Clay and I don’t see how the show continues without Clay. Odd position to put yourself in, but it’s been better.[/quote]
      And don’t forget Clay is trying to commission a hit on Tara. With him causing most of the internal issues it will be interesting to see if/when the club acts. I agree about the show not being able to survive without him.

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    70. 70 binky says:

      [quote name=mb21]That, and not telling Kinsler to be stupid after getting to 1st. How many times does Molina have to erase him from the bases?[/quote]He didn’t get him this time did he? Or was there a pickoff that worked that I missed this game?

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    71. 71 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]And don’t forget Clay is trying to commission a hit on Tara. With him causing most of the internal issues it will be interesting to see if/when the club acts. I agree about the show not being able to survive without him.[/quote]Good point about Tara. Just gives Jax another reason to want him dead. Wait until he reads those letters. The resentment Clay has faced so far inside the club will be nothing compared to what he’s up against if/when Opie and Jax figure out what’s going on. Clay also promised Opie the leadership role and then said fuck that.

      The show just can’t survive without Clay because Jax is next in line and he wants out. I don’t know how you’d explain Tara coming back and Jax isn’t going to just leave his kids.

      What we’ve seen this year feels like a final season to me, but they’re doing 3 more of them.

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    72. 72 binky says:

      [quote name=mb21]The best 5 hitters should hit in the top 5. There’s some advantage to placing them in different spots, but if a team puts their best 5 in the top 5 spots I can’t complain. Is Andrus one of the 5 best Rangers hitters? I don’t know, but I doubt it.[/quote]I don’t know. He had a pretty good year.

      On that Molina hit, I’m signing off for the night.

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    73. 73 mb21 says:

      [quote name=josh]He didn’t get him this time did he? Or was there a pickoff that worked that I missed this game?[/quote]I think Kinsler was caught stealing and has been picked off tonight. He was caught stealing to lead off game 1 too I think.

      When you get on base with Molina behind the plate, when are teams going to realize you need to shorten your lead and stop fucking running? It’s just not worth it. Molina is as good as there has ever been behind the plate. Maybe even better. Not when you include offense, but behind the plate, I’ve never seen anyone even close to as good.

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    74. 74 ACT says:

      Andrus is a weak hitter (.314 career wOBA). Way worse than Kinsler, Hamilton, Cruz, Beltre, Napoli, or Young.

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    75. 75 ACT says:

      Hell, he’s even worse than David Murphy.

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    76. 76 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ACT]Andrus is a weak hitter (.314 career wOBA). Way worse than Kinsler, Hamilton, Cruz, Beltre, Napoli, or Young.[/quote]There was also a righty on the mound so I’d think his true talent wOBA would be closer to .290 or .300 tops.

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    77. 77 ACT says:

      And I like Andrus.

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    78. 78 mb21 says:

      Andrus is an 8-hitter to me. After his rookie season it looked like he could be more than that, but he’s not. He hasn’t gotten any better and maybe even worse (haven’t looked at the stats to be sure).

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    79. 79 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      Not looking good for Texas. Damn.

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    80. 80 Rice Cube says:

      It’s nice of Ryan Theriot to suck so hard in the biggest game of his life.

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    81. 81 ACT says:

      This is what MGL’s sim found to be the best Texas lineup:

      Kinsler
      Hamilton
      Cruz
      Napoli
      Young
      Beltre
      Murphy
      Andrus

      This would win about 1 game per year more than the one Wash uses.

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    82. 82 mb21 says:

      Like we’ve known before, lineups aren’t really an issue. One win is a lot and you should do whatever you can to maximize your wins. Unless a team is batting their pitcher 4th, I’ve stopped caring about lineups.

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    83. 83 Rice Cube says:

      Another year of Cubs fans never hearing the end of it…

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    84. 84 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Another year of Cubs fans never hearing the end of it…[/quote]Just don’t listen. (dying laughing)

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    85. 85 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]Just don’t listen. (dying laughing)[/quote]But they’re so loud!

      11 in 18 tries, that’s a pretty good percentage.

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    86. 86 mb21 says:

      I never cared who won this, but I am glad to see Berkman win a ring.

      /runs away from MO

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    87. 87 mb21 says:

      Ryan Theriot has more rings than the Cubs have had in the last century. (dying laughing)

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    88. 88 Rice Cube says:

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    89. 89 ACT says:

      [quote name=mb21]Like we’ve known before, lineups aren’t really an issue. One win is a lot and you should do whatever you can to maximize your wins. Unless a team is batting their pitcher 4th, I’ve stopped caring about lineups.[/quote]I’d say if a lineup is so bad it costs your team a win a year, that it really is an issue. It’s a pretty big deal as far as managerial decisions go.

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    90. 90 ACT says:

      [quote name=mb21]Ryan Theriot has more rings than the Cubs have had in the last century. (dying laughing)[/quote]He helped the team by being so bad, they traded for Furcal.

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    91. 91 melissa says:

      I blame Atlanta.

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    92. 92 ACT says:

      I blame Marmol.

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    93. 93 melissa says:

      LaRussa credits coming back from a 1-0 deficit vs. the Cubs as the watershed moment for this team. (dying laughing)

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    94. 94 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=melissa]LaRussa credits coming back from a 1-0 deficit vs. the Cubs as the watershed moment for this team. (dying laughing)[/quote]Obligatory Chicago diss!

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    95. 95 Rice Cube says:

      Oh that’s a fucking sweet car. Nice work, Freese.

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    96. 96 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      [quote name=ACT]I blame Marmol.[/quote]
      Seriously if he didn’t walk the earth in that 9th inning this would not be happening.

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    97. 97 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]Seriously if he didn’t walk the earth in that 9th inning this would not be happening.[/quote]Cards and Braves would’ve still been tied and playing a one-game do-or-die. Now if the Cubs hadn’t blown the OTHER game (dying laughing)

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    98. 98 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Yay. Seven games of mediocre baseball and bad managing to see Larussa be rewarded for doing almost everything wrong.

      Remind why I should watch this shit again next year?

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    99. 99 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      The only ring I want Berkman to get is ringworm. (dying laughing)

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    100. 100 Rice Cube says:

      Pujols —-> 5 year/$20MM with Cubs

      /Theo magic

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    101. 101 mb21 says:

      As awesome as it would be to get Pujols, I can’t see him playing anywhere else. Of all the good teams over the last decade (Yankees, Red Sox), only the Red Sox have won as many championships as the Cardinals have. They weren’t nearly as good with the exception of 2004 and 2005, but they’re apparently better off being the worst team in the playoffs. (dying laughing)

      Maybe the Cubs should try that.

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    102. 102 Rice Cube says:

      This “getting to the playoffs” thing sounds like it just might work.

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    103. 103 Rice Cube says:

      Lest we forget, at least one guy just won a shitload of money for betting on the Cardinals…

      http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Fan-in-Vegas-bet-Cardinals-to-win-World-Series-a?urn=mlb-wp24823

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    104. 104 ACT says:

      I knew it! It was rigged all along! Every team standing in the Cardinals’ way was bribed!

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    105. 106 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      As punishment for winning the World Series as a wildcard team, the St. Louis Cardinals have been sentenced to a season of Tony LaRussa managing the team without Albert Pujols and with Allen Craig.

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    106. 107 GBTS says:

      Some day.

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    107. 108 binky says:

      For once I’m glad I work with a bunch of nerds who hate sports.

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    108. 109 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]As punishment for winning the World Series as a wildcard team, the St. Louis Cardinals have been sentenced to a season of Tony LaRussa managing the team without Albert Pujols and with Allen Craig.[/quote]
      With the extra money they pull in from this series going 7 and the extra playoff money in general, I think the chances of STL signing pujols are even more likely. I think that the Cardinals were the most likely team to sign him before, now I think the chance is somewhere around 70-80%

      /gut-feeling’d

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    109. 110 Mish says:

      [quote name=Berselius]With the extra money they pull in from this series going 7 and the extra playoff money in general, I think the chances of STL signing pujols are even more likely. I think that the Cardinals were the most likely team to sign him before, now I think the chance is somewhere around 70-80%

      /gut-feeling’d[/quote]
      Agreed. I never really thought he was leaving STL, and the deep run emboldens that thought process.

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    110. 111 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Berselius]With the extra money they pull in from this series going 7 and the extra playoff money in general, I think the chances of STL signing pujols are even more likely. I think that the Cardinals were the most likely team to sign him before, now I think the chance is somewhere around 70-80%

      /gut-feeling’d[/quote]I initially thought Pujols was gone, but over the last month I’ve felt the same way. With all the playoff money they got this year I’m pretty sure he’s re-signing. I also don’t really think there are many other teams interested. Prince Fielder is the prize first basemen to get this offseason. He’s not better than Pujols, but his contract is going to be a lot better. If Pujols comes down to around 6/150, sign him.

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    111. 112 binky says:

      [quote name=mb21]I initially thought Pujols was gone, but over the last month I’ve felt the same way. With all the playoff money they got this year I’m pretty sure he’s re-signing. I also don’t really think there are many other teams interested. Prince Fielder is the prize first basemen to get this offseason. He’s not better than Pujols, but his contract is going to be a lot better. If Pujols comes down to around 6/150, sign him.[/quote]He hasn’t been the better first baseman, but who will be the better first baseman going forward, do you think?

      I’m curious about World Series revenues. The teams in it get to keep all the money, or does that get redistributed some way? I never really knew how that worked. I would suppose even if they had to split some of the television profits, they’d still get to keep their in-park revenues, from concessions and so forth.

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    112. 113 ACT says:

      [quote name=josh]He hasn’t been the better first baseman, but who will be the better first baseman going forward, do you think?
      [/quote]Pujols.

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    113. 114 mb21 says:

      I think Pujols will be better going forward. I’m not as concerned about Fielder as I once was, but the man is a small planet. Pujols is a better defender by a huge margin. And a much better baserunner. I think Fielder may be the better hitter over the next 6 to 8 years (it will be close), but everything else favors Pujols.

      Pujols has been 18 UZR over the last 4 years and 1 run on the bases (+17 in his career). Fielder has been -20 in fielding and -29 on the bases over the same span. Fielder is a good 7 to 8 runs worse on defense per season. He’s about 5 runs worse running the bases and maybe even more. That’s 1.2 wins right there. Fielder has to be so much better offensively to be the better player. It’s just not going to happen.

      I expect Pujols will still be a semi-productive player at the age of 40 and Fielder will be out of the game no later than the age of 35. Pujols is a bit more than 4 years older than Fielder and I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that Fielder leaves this game after Pujols does. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was out of the game 10 years by the time Pujols retired. If Pujols plays into his mid 40s, that’s almost certain.

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    114. 115 mb21 says:

      The only reason I say Fielder is the prize first baseman this offseason is because he won’t be overpaid as much as Pujols will be.

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    115. 116 ACT says:

      Despite Pujols’ advanced age, he’s in better shape, a better runner, and a better defender than Fielder.

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    116. 117 mb21 says:

      Aramis Ramirez makes Prince Fielder look like an awesome baserunner. (dying laughing)

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    117. 118 ACT says:

      Yeah, what mb21 said.

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    118. 119 ACT says:

      [quote name=mb21]Aramis Ramirez makes Prince Fielder look like an awesome baserunner. (dying laughing)[/quote]Some team will probably still pay him to play 3rd anyway. Such is the market for that positon.

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    119. 120 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ACT]Despite Pujols’ advanced age, he’s in better shape, a better runner, and a better defender than Fielder.[/quote]He’s also not any worse at the plate right now. Maybe even a bit better right now.

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    120. 121 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]The only reason I say Fielder is the prize first baseman this offseason is because he won’t be overpaid as much as Pujols will be.[/quote]I don’t think I mind that Pujols would be overpaid since he’d probably be worth it, except for the part where the Cubs team as it currently stands has more holes than Roberto Luongo.

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    121. 122 mb21 says:

      There are 3 1B who have at least 20 steals combined over the last 3 seasons. Cuddyer has 24, Votto has 28 and then Pujols has 39. SB doesn’t mean much unless you know the percentage, but still. Pujols isn’t speedy and doesn’t even have the speed he once did, but he’s very smart on the bases.

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    122. 123 ACT says:

      I think if I could have any first baseman for a long time and money was no issue, I’d go with Votto since he’s younger than Pujols and about as good. Pujols would probably be my second choice, followed by Gonzalez and Cabrera.

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    123. 124 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I don’t think I mind that Pujols would be overpaid since he’d probably be worth it, except for the part where the Cubs team as it currently stands has more holes than Roberto Luongo.[/quote]What kind of overpay are we talking about? What’s the most you’d pay him? Off the top of my head I’d say 8/200. I can run the numbers later.

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    124. 125 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]What kind of overpay are we talking about? What’s the most you’d pay him? Off the top of my head I’d say 8/200. I can run the numbers later.[/quote]I was thinking if he wanted A-Rod money, you give him 5/$150MM with mutual options for years six and seven and maybe an opt-out clause after year four. I haven’t ran the numbers or anything, just ballpark.

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    125. 126 Rice Cube says:

      I used to think it might not be a bad idea to give him the 10 year/$300MM mythical contract but that was before I realized how badly the 2011 Cubs sucked and how badly it needed to be obliterated (dying laughing)

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    126. 127 binky says:

      I’m excited to see what happens all around, what Theo’s plans are and what he will try to do to make the team competitive at all next year.

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    127. 128 binky says:

      Or for 2 years down the road.

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    128. 129 Rice Cube says:

      http://muskat.mlblogs.com/2011/10/29/1029-roster-moves/

      Free agency begins tonight. Major League Baseball and the Players Association agreed to a 24-hour delay to the start of free agency, and will officially begin at 11:01 p.m. CT Saturday. All team/player/mutual option decisions are due by 10:59 p.m. CT Monday. That means Aramis Ramirez and Ryan Dempster must decide by then whether they want to remain with the Cubs. Free agents will be able to sign contracts with new teams starting at 11:01 p.m. CT Wednesday.

      Free agents: Carlos Pena, John Grabow, Kerry Wood, Rodrigo Lopez, Ramon Ortiz and Reed Johnson.

      Options: Aramis Ramirez, $16 million mutual option ($2 million buyout); Ryan Dempster, $14 million player option

      Arbitration eligible players: Randy Wells, Blake DeWitt, Geovany Soto, Matt Garza, Jeff Baker, Koyie Hill.

      – Carrie Muskat

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      Forgot that Dempster had to figure out what he wanted to do as well. I think Dempster is Type A, if he opts for free agency, I assume he’d decline arbitration right?

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    129. 130 mb21 says:

      They really moved up the free agent signing date, didn’t they?

      Yeah, if Dempster opts out he’ll decline arbitration. He has a few weeks to decide though.

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