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    And Counting, Berselius and myself answered some very important questions by an Indians blogger. The questions, as I’m sure you guessed, were about Kosuke Fukudome. So head over there and read what we have to say. 


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    130 Responses to “Obstructed View takes its discredited act on the road”

    1. 1 dylanj says:

      I’m hoping to have a long form interview with Tom Ricketts when the season is over.
      Stay tuned.

      Join us for complete MLB coverage at SB Nation’s Baseball Nation
      by Al Yellon on Jul 29, 2011 7:58 AM CDT up reply

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    2. 2 dylanj says:

      part two in a 19 series part about who owns the team

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    3. 3 AndCounting says:

      [quote name=dylanj]part two in a 19 series part about who owns the team[/quote](dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    4. 4 Mish says:

      Inidans Blogger? No shit you’re discredited.

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    5. 5 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mish]Inidans Blogger? No shit you’re discredited.[/quote](dying laughing)

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    6. 6 binky says:

      I definitely liked how unobstructed your views of Fukudome were. They were the unobstructediest.

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    7. 7 mb21 says:

      [quote name=josh]I definitely liked how unobstructed your views of Fukudome were. They were the unobstructediest.[/quote]I didn’t like the signing at the time and there’s no reason to rehash all of that. The reality is that he was OK player, it wasn’t a bad contract at the time, and the Cubs horribly misused him for 3 years. To Lou’s credit he didn’t play him against lefties much after his first season, but he still tried to hit him in the middle of the order way too much. Even last year when he batted leadoff regularly, he still saw plate appearances in the middle of the order.

      So say what you want about Mike Quade, but he realized right away that Fukudome is a leadoff man.

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    8. 8 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=mb21]say what you want about Mike Quade, but he realized right away that Fukudome is a leadoff man.[/quote]
      Mike Quade sounds like full-time manager material.

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    9. 9 Mish says:

      [quote name=mb21] but he still tried to hit him in the middle of the order way too much. Even last year when he batted leadoff regularly, he still saw plate appearances in the middle of the order.
      [/quote]
      I know lineups are usually only marginal when it comes to runs, but I recall at the beginning of Aug 2009 the Cubs were tied or flat-out in first place, and had been hot with Fukudome and Bradley hitting 1-2. Then the Cubs traveled to Colorado, and since Kosuke was hot, Lou dropped him to 5th and re-inserted Theriot at the top of the lineup, and the Cubs would lose the series and slowly fall out of the race.

      An anecdote that probably doesn’t mean a whole lot, but that always stuck out to me for whatever reason.

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    10. 10 binky says:

      [quote name=mb21]So say what you want about Mike Quade, but he realized right away that Fukudome is a leadoff man.[/quote]I didn’t know much about Fukudome except what the press said, but I’ve liked him. I agree he was misused. It used to really bug me how much Ron Santo hated him. He hated Fukudome’s swing, though Ichiro has made almost the exact same swing work pretty well.

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    11. 11 binky says:

      He wasn’t the #3 hitter they told us he would be, but whatever, he had skills. I know it’s conjecture, but I wonder if the crazy emphasis on his hitting is why we’ve seen his defense slip the last couple of years.

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    12. 12 mb21 says:

      [quote name=josh]He wasn’t the #3 hitter they told us he would be, but whatever, he had skills. I know it’s conjecture, but I wonder if the crazy emphasis on his hitting is why we’ve seen his defense slip the last couple of years.[/quote]I started to write something last night and may finish it some time, but I was pointing out that we have to be careful and not evaluate players based on our expectations of them. I may not finish it because most people here already understand that anyway.

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    13. 13 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mish]I know lineups are usually only marginal when it comes to runs, but I recall at the beginning of Aug 2009 the Cubs were tied or flat-out in first place, and had been hot with Fukudome and Bradley hitting 1-2. Then the Cubs traveled to Colorado, and since Kosuke was hot, Lou dropped him to 5th and re-inserted Theriot at the top of the lineup, and the Cubs would lose the series and slowly fall out of the race.

      An anecdote that probably doesn’t mean a whole lot, but that always stuck out to me for whatever reason.[/quote]
      I remember this as well, I thought it was awesome. And then it all ended…sigh.

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    14. 14 Rice Cube says:

      I must have missed the joke and haven’t bothered to ask, but I’ll ask it now…who discredited ACB and by extension, OVblog? (dying laughing)

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    15. 15 Mish says:

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    16. 16 Mucker says:

      You know what’s funny, I tried to trade Fukudome to the Indians on my MLB Show game and they said they weren’t interested. What gives? (dying laughing)

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    17. 17 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

      [quote name=Muckey]You know what’s funny, I tried to trade Fukudome to the Indians on my MLB Show game and they said they weren’t interested. What gives? (dying laughing)[/quote]You have to shove $4m into the PS3

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    18. 18 Mucker says:

      According to my brother,

      Sam Hurd——–> Bears

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    19. 19 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Nnamdi not ————————> SF

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    20. 20 Rice Cube says:

      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/the-indians-are-making-a-strong-push-for-ryan-ludwick/

      I guess they could’ve tried to foist Byrd onto the Indians too, but they need Byrd to contend next season…

      /optimism goggles engaged

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    21. 21 binky says:

      [quote name=mb21]I started to write something last night and may finish it some time, but I was pointing out that we have to be careful and not evaluate players based on our expectations of them. I may not finish it because most people here already understand that anyway.[/quote]I think it’s hard for the average fan when the only thing they know about, e.g., Fukudome is that the press called him a combination of Matsui and Ichiro, and then made it sound like we paid A-Rod money for him (by not comparing his contract to similar players). It might help if the Cubs had a front office and a general manager who could temper expectations with some real talk, but guys like Hendry don’t like to do that, they talk about him having a good swing or being good on defense, or throw around cliches like 5-tool player. If they did honest comparisons and justified the money they had spent based on similar players up front, you temper the expectations, and emphasize the team aspect of the game. But that’s not the storyline the press and the GM want to sell.

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    22. 22 dylanj says:

      cromartie?

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    23. 23 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Nnamdi not ————————> SF[/quote]
      It’s too bad…awesome player, very good Golden Bear.

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    24. 24 binky says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/the-indians-are-making-a-strong-push-for-ryan-ludwick/

      I guess they could’ve tried to foist Byrd onto the Indians too, but they need Byrd to contend next season…

      /optimism goggles engaged[/quote]I thought Byrd’s (“Take me with you!”) and A-Ram’s (“maybe if they asked nice, I’ll say yes”) were pretty telling of the team atmosphere. No one wants to be on a team this bad, and the players themselves don’t seem to see much hope for next year.

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    25. 25 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=josh]I think it’s hard for the average fan when the only thing they know about, e.g., Fukudome is that the press called him a combination of Matsui and Ichiro, and then made it sound like we paid A-Rod money for him (by not comparing his contract to similar players). It might help if the Cubs had a front office and a general manager who could temper expectations with some real talk, but guys like Hendry don’t like to do that, they talk about him having a good swing or being good on defense, or throw around cliches like 5-tool player. If they did honest comparisons and justified the money they had spent based on similar players up front, you temper the expectations, and emphasize the team aspect of the game. But that’s not the storyline the press and the GM want to sell.[/quote]
      I don’t blame that entirely on Hendry. He wants to sell the quality of his moves to a degree, but the overhype is a product of the Cubs culture. The marketing wing of the Cubs has basically run that team for as long as I can remember.

      They never do anything that might deviate from the overall marketing meme “This could be the year!” Thus the constant faux-contending, constant idolization of prospects in the minors via Vineline, and overstating the value of players they acquire like Fukudome (or Bradley or Burnitz or any of the other right fielders they got to replace Sammy).

      They used to do it with every third baseman and now it’s every right fielder. I’ll bet you money that is at least part of the reason they fucked around with trying to make Bert Jackson a corner outfielder. I don’t have a source, that is just my own conspiracy theory.

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    26. 26 Rice Cube says:

      I wonder how the Indians do their marketing. They haven’t won in like 63 years.

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    27. 27 Rice Cube says:

      I know my favorite ballplayer isn’t likely to invite me over for a BBQ or give me a million dollars, but something like this would still make me pretty giddy:

      http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Video-Josh-Beckett-8217-s-gift-brings-young-fa?urn=mlb-wp14224

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    28. 28 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I wonder how the Indians do their marketing. They haven’t won in like 63 years.[/quote]

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    29. 29 Rice Cube says:

      ^ (dying laughing) Please tell me someone’s posted that on BCB.

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    30. 30 binky says:

      Average Fan’s view of defense:

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    31. 31 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=dylanj]cromartie?[/quote]
      Carr.

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    32. 32 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]^ (dying laughing) Please tell me someone’s posted that on BCB.[/quote]
      No but I have it in my back pocket if he starts bitching again.

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    33. 34 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]No but I have it in my back pocket if he starts bitching again.[/quote]
      FYI: That will be different. CHC is a different organization from every other.

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    34. 36 mb21 says:

      I don’t blame that entirely on Hendry. He wants to sell the quality of his moves to a degree, but the overhype is a product of the Cubs culture. The marketing wing of the Cubs has basically run that team for as long as I can remember.

      I agree to a certain extent, but not completely. The Cubs are a business and any business is going to run in a way to highlight every aspect of it even if some of it is subpar. Take AMC as an example and how one of their top guys explained how The Killing is one of their better shows the other day. Nobody in their right mind would think that after watching the season, but they’re going to sell it the same way they did before its first season. The Cubs are no exception.

      I also believe the marketing works for Cubs fans because they so desperately want to believe this is the year. They’ll believe anything that might even point in that direction. It’s less useful for an organization like the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers or even the Astros. Those organizations aren’t as desperate to believe this is the year as Cubs fans are. If they were, the same type of overhyping would occur.

      I don’t believe the Cubs as a business do anything differently than the others when it comes to this kind of thing. I believe the biggest difference is the desperation of Cubs fans. We’ll see it in a couple years with Starlin Castro when people begin to finally realize that he is not and will never be a superstar. He’ll still be valuable, but he will not have become nearly as good as they were expecting. He’s the one that’s going to lead this team to the World Series and he’s the one you build around to most Cubs fans. When it becomes apparent he’s not that kind of a player, the fans will begin talking about how the Cubs overhyped him, but they didn’t.

      It’s easy to blame the fans for this, but I really do think they’re to blame here. There’s nothing that can be done to change it. Cubs fans have a certain frame of mind anymore and that won’t change even if they win a championship.

      Think of it like this: marketing is used to increase revenue and if the Cubs machine was creating more revenue from hyping players then other teams would do it. I think the reality is that they all already do it and the difference is the fans.

      Just my 28 cents.

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    35. 37 binky says:

      [quote name=mb21]
      Think of it like this: marketing is used to increase revenue and if the Cubs machine was creating more revenue from hyping players then other teams would do it. I think the reality is that they all already do it and the difference is the fans.

      Just my 28 cents.[/quote]Good points all. That’s why I’m putting all my emotional stock in Darwin Barney.

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    36. 38 binky says:

      When you look at the 2007/08 teams, there was no Barry Bonds, but several guys all having solid years. And if memory served, it seemed like they had good luck in terms if one guy had a few off days, someone else happened to be going well. It doesn’t necessarily take a Barry Bonds to win. But I don’t know if there’s any way to tell Cubs fans this.

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    37. 39 binky says:

      Lots of guys getting on base consistently, right Billy Beane?

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    38. 40 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=josh]Lots of guys getting on base consistently, right Billy Beane?[/quote]
      Except with the Cubs, they should be able to afford guys who can get on base AND can play defense….theoretically.

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    39. 41 GW says:

      http://www.didthetribewinlastnight.com

      So lemme guess…OVBlog agreed to stop squatting on that url in exchange for some publicity?

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    40. 42 binky says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Except with the Cubs, they should be able to afford guys who can get on base AND can play defense….theoretically.[/quote]Hey, at least they didn’t hire Adam Dunn like a lot of guys on the radio were clamoring for.

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    41. 43 JMan says:

      damn the FA starting pitchers after 2012 is STACKED.

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    42. 44 Berselius says:

      [quote name=JMan]damn the FA starting pitchers after 2012 is STACKED until their teams sign a bunch of them to extensions[/quote]
      .

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    43. 45 Rice Cube says:

      If they can’t trade Z I wonder if that’s it for him after 2012, or if they give him a smaller deal to just be the 4/5 starter.

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    44. 46 JMan says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]If they can’t trade Z I wonder if that’s it for him after 2012, or if they give him a smaller deal to just be the 4/5 starter.[/quote]I’m pretty sure they’d rather bring Rodrigo Lopez back rather than sign him to another contract.

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    45. 47 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=JMan]I’m pretty sure they’d rather bring Rodrigo Lopez back rather than sign him to another contract.[/quote]
      Yeah, Z’s days as a Cub are numbered. I guess like some of you I wouldn’t be surprised if he were released just because nobody seems to like him.

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    46. 48 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Michael fucking Crabtree has brought me nothing but pain.

      Before my edit, the post read:

      Fucking Michael Crabtree has brought me nothing but pain.

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    47. 49 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Michael fucking Crabtree has brought me nothing but pain.

      Fucking Michael Crabtree has brought me nothing but pain.[/quote]
      See how important sequencing is, fagets?

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    48. 50 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]See how important sequencing is, fagets?[/quote]
      That’s some good variance in that sentence

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    49. 51 Berselius says:

      The Angels still want Aramis Ramirez, if he decides to waive his NTC

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    50. 52 Mish says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]See how important sequencing is, fagets?[/quote]
      Sure, your results are good, but what about the peripherals? What’s your Fucking Independent Pain (FIP)?

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    51. 53 jtsunami2 says:

      Is JG Dr. Aneus Taint?

      Sorry, I’ve been away for awhile.

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    52. 54 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]The Angels still want Aramis Ramirez, if he decides to waive his NTC[/quote]
      The plot thickens.

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    53. 55 GW says:

      [quote name=jtsunami2]Is JG Dr. Aneus Taint?

      Sorry, I was thinking about cats again.[/quote]
      .

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    54. 56 Mish says:

      [quote name=jtsunami2]I
      Sorry, I’ve been waiting awhile, thanks.[/quote]
      .

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    55. 57 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Berselius]The Angels still want Aramis Ramirez, if he decides to waive his NTC[/quote]
      CHC needs to rape LAA’s farm or trade him somewhere else.

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    56. 58 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]Sure, your results are good, but it ain’t me. What’s your Lucking Independent Pain (LIP)?[/quote].

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    57. 59 Mucker says:

      What can the Cubs realistically get for Ramirez? Can they get a Top prospect? Why are teams willing to give up the farm for Hunter Pence? Am I missing something?

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    58. 60 binky says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Michael fucking Crabtree has brought me nothing but pain.

      Before my edit, the post read:

      Fucking Michael Crabtree has brought me nothing but pain.[/quote]You have to be careful where you put your fucks.

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    59. 61 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=josh]You have to be careful where you put your fucks.[/quote]
      This message courtesy of the Broken English To Stop Transmit Sex Diseases Council.

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    60. 62 GBTS says:

      [quote name=Muckey]What can the Cubs realistically get for Ramirez? Can they get a Top prospect? Why are teams willing to give up the farm for Hunter Pence? Am I missing something?[/quote]The Angels still need to know if Ramirez’s option vests. They’ve dispatched a team to locate it where its been buried at the center of the earth, but they might not find it in time for the July 31 deadline.

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    61. 63 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]This message courtesy of the Broken English To Stop Transmit Sex Diseases Council.[/quote]

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    62. 64 Mucker says:

      [quote name=GBTS]The Angels still need to know if Ramirez’s option vests. They’ve dispatched a team to locate it where its been buried at the center of the earth, but they might not find it in time for the July 31 deadline.[/quote]His option is the Jimmy Hoffa of baseball contracts.

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    63. 65 The Wreckard says:

      [quote name=Muckey]What can the Cubs realistically get for Ramirez? Can they get a Top prospect? Why are teams willing to give up the farm for Hunter Pence? Am I missing something?[/quote]I don’t get the Pence thing either. Only thing I can think is that he’s the kind of dude that old school GMs like – toolsy, hustley, gritty, and white.

      For Ramirez, I think it depends on the details of his 2012 option, which has gotten conflicting reports. Assuming its’ for 2011 only… a top 100 prospect plus a fringe guy?

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    64. 66 Mish says:

      [quote name=GBTS]The Angels still need to know if Ramirez’s option vests. They’ve dispatched a team to locate it where its been buried at the center of the earth, but they might not find it in time for the July 31 deadline.[/quote]It vests if Silva doesn’t receive his money from Marlon Byrd.

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    65. 67 Mish says:

      If not already posted:

      Jurgen Klinsmann —–> USMNT coach

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    66. 68 kilo14 says:

      Tried to look at BCB, but seems someone hacked it to force everyone to go to google. (dying laughing)

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    67. 69 Mucker says:

      I’ve seen reports that the Phillies have offered 2-3 of their Top 10 to include Cosart, Singleton and Brown for Pence. Word is the Astros are sticking to their guns about getting a mega return for him and the Phillies look to be willing to give them it. Unreal.

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    68. 70 Mish says:

      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/the-angels-are-interested-in-aramis-ramirez/

      Not sure why Ramirez is most in need of a change of scenery (other than fans/Sullivan); he seems to generally enjoy it here, or at least appears so.

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    69. 71 JMan says:

      [quote name=GBTS]The Angels still need to know if Ramirez’s option vests. They’ve dispatched a team to locate it where its been buried at the center of the earth, but they might not find it in time for the July 31 deadline.[/quote]i think they know. All of this is a game being played between the cubs/ARam’s agent and the Angels. it’s all about upping the ante. At least I’ve convinced myself that hendry learned how to play games to get more.

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    70. 72 JMan says:

      [quote name=Muckey]I’ve seen reports that the Phillies have offered 2-3 of their Top 10 to include Cosart, Singleton and Brown for Pence. Word is the Astros are sticking to their guns about getting a mega return for him and the Phillies look to be willing to give them it. Unreal.[/quote]the cubs need to be all over trying to get Dom Brown. Hendry basically stated in a sullivan article today that every player is available at the right price. Dom Brown is the RIGHT price.

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    71. 73 mb21 says:

      [quote name=The Wreckard]I don’t get the Pence thing either. Only thing I can think is that he’s the kind of dude that old school GMs like – toolsy, hustley, gritty, and white.

      For Ramirez, I think it depends on the details of his 2012 option, which has gotten conflicting reports. Assuming its’ for 2011 only… a top 100 prospect plus a fringe guy?[/quote]I’d be surprised if they can get that even if they send the remaining money on his contract. I plan to take a deeper look at this sometime today, but have been busy so far. I wanted to post something this morning about it, but didn’t get to it. I hope to have something up later today.

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    72. 74 JMan says:

      [quote name=mb21]I’d be surprised if they can get that even if they send the remaining money on his contract. I plan to take a deeper look at this sometime today, but have been busy so far. I wanted to post something this morning about it, but didn’t get to it. I hope to have something up later today.[/quote]I’m guessing the Cubs would get a package built around Peter Bourjos. I think it’ll be Ramirez + another from the roster and they might get Conger. Any other year and I’d have said Ervin Santana but he’s been pitching very well this year and not sure they want to give him up.

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    73. 75 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=JMan]I’m guessing the Cubs would get a package built around Peter Bourjos. I think it’ll be Ramirez + another from the roster and they might get Conger. Any other year and I’d have said Ervin Santana but he’s been pitching very well this year and not sure they want to give him up.[/quote]
      Don’t do it, CHC.

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    74. 76 JMan says:

      [quote name=mb21]I’d be surprised if they can get that even if they send the remaining money on his contract. I plan to take a deeper look at this sometime today, but have been busy so far. I wanted to post something this morning about it, but didn’t get to it. I hope to have something up later today.[/quote]Isn’t Ramirez currently projected to be a Type B FA? not sure if he’s on the cusp of A but if so then the Cubs will likely be compensated as such. A Top100 prospect isn’t something to sneeze at either. it’s really about how close that player is to the bigs. I’d have to assume Hendry is pushing for someone that can play right away or no later than 2012.

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    75. 77 JMan says:

      Another board brought up a good point. IF Beltran is worth a top prospect like Wheeler than how is Ramirez not? He plays a more premium position and can be offered ARB.

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    76. 78 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=JMan]Another board brought up a good point. IF Beltran is worth a top prospect like Wheeler than how is Ramirez not?[/quote]
      It’s based on the fact that light-skinned Mexicans are grittier than dark-skinned Mexicans.

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    77. 79 Mish says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]It’s based on the fact that light-skinned Mexicans are grittier than dark-skinned Mexicans.[/quote]Aren’t they roughly the same color Mexicans?

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    78. 80 Mish says:

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    79. 81 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]Aren’t they roughly the same color Mexicans?[/quote]
      Racist.

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    80. 82 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Evan_P_Grant

      As I wrote earlier in week, if Rangers want Bell or Bailey or Adams, they’d probably have to surrender a LHP: Holland, Erlin, Perez.

      Then don’t get Bell or Bailey.

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    81. 83 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Then don’t get Bell or Bailey.[/quote]

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    82. 84 Mish says:

      KG

      Marco Hernandez, SS, Cubs (Rookie-level AZL): 3-for-4, 3B, 2 R, 4 RBI. 18-year-old Dominican has legitimate shortstop tools; .342/.390/.450 in 30 games.

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    83. 85 Rice Cube says:

      Real name…?

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    84. 86 mb21 says:

      I hope it’s his real name.

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    85. 87 Aisle424 says:

      Alvin:

      Most people here — myself included — are happy, I believe, that Kosuke Fukudome is no longer a Cub. He provided good defense and drew a fair number of walks. But that’s about all the value he had in his Cubs career; the power that he showed in Japan never manifested itself on this side of the Pacific, and his MLB career — which I suspect is over after this season — has to be seen as a huge disappointment.

      He’s started using dashes in the place of multiple commas, but the cuntiness remains intact.

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    86. 88 Mucker says:

      Question for the stat fags:

      Is there a general rule for BABIP in regard to a player’s career? For example, Bonds career BABIP was .285. The Babe’s was .340. Is there a general rule of increase for avg., hits, RBIs, etc. if Bonds had a higher BABIP, say .320?

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    87. 89 Berselius says:

      Castro back at leadoff with Fukudome gone

      Castro
      Barney
      Rodrigo
      Peenya
      Byrd
      Geo
      Adolfo
      Colvin
      Garza

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    88. 90 binky says:

      Sweet, the game’s on WGN tonight.

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    89. 91 Aisle424 says:

      Draft race standings ——–> updated.

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    90. 92 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Alvin: the cuntiness remains intact.[/quote]

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    91. 93 WaLi says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Draft race standings ——–> updated.[/quote]Thanks!

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    92. 94 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Muckey]Question for the stat fags:[/quote]

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    93. 95 ACT says:

      [quote name=Muckey]Question for the stat fags:

      Is there a general rule for BABIP in regard to a player’s career? For example, Bonds career BABIP was .285. The Babe’s was .340. Is there a general rule of increase for avg., hits, RBIs, etc. if Bonds had a higher BABIP, say .320?[/quote]I don’t think so. BABIP is a result of multiple factors, including speed and batted ball profile (e.g. LD>GB>FB). For instance, Bonds was something of a fly ball hitter. You could increase his BABIP by exchanging some flyballs for groundballs, but that would take away from his SLG. Or you could magically turn his groundballs into line drives, which would lead to an all-around increase, etc.

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    94. 96 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=ACT]I don’t think so. BABIP is a result of multiple factors, including speed and batted ball profile (e.g. LD>GB>FB). For instance, Bonds was something of a fly ball hitter. You could increase his BABIP by exchanging some flyballs for groundballs, but that would take away from his SLG. Or you could magically turn his groundballs into line drives, which would lead to an all-around increase, etc.[/quote]
      I think BABIP also doesn’t take into account HR (which are by definition no longer in play) and since he kind of hit 762 of them, that would deflate his BABIP a bit…but I might not be thinking about that totally right.

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    95. 97 ACT says:

      I would guess that his flyball BABIP was lower than average for that reason (his hardest hit ones don’t count toward that stat).

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    96. 98 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

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    97. 99 ACT says:

      [quote name=ACT]I would guess that his flyball BABIP was lower than average for that reason (his hardest hit ones don’t count toward that stat).[/quote]Here’s the b-ref link to support this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bondsba01&year=Career&t=b#traj

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    98. 100 Mucker says:

      Thanks Act and RC. I was just curious how much better Bonds numbers could have been if his BABIP was higher.

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    99. 101 Aisle424 says:

      Either Aramis or Hendry:

      “You cant rebuild in a big market. Youve got to try to put a winning product on the field”

      It is unclear from Sullivan’s tweet which one said it.

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    100. 102 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=WenningtonsGorillaCock][/quote]
      I would want berselius to verify the validity of this mathematical masterpiece but it’s pretty fucking awesome.

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    101. 103 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I would want berselius to verify the validity of this mathematical masterpiece but it’s pretty fucking awesome.[/quote]there’s a debate on Gizmodo about whether this is real. I choose to believe.

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    102. 104 mb21 says:

      [quote name=WenningtonsGorillaCock]there’s a debate on Gizmodo about whether this is real. I choose to believe.[/quote]Do you have a bracelet?

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    103. 105 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Either Aramis or Hendry:

      It is unclear from Sullivan’s tweet which one said it.[/quote]That’s a whole lotta facepalm in one tweet.

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    104. 106 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      To sum up today:

      Love the Klinsmann hire, hate the Williams signing, wish the Cubs would just forfeit the rest of the season and save themselves the embarrassment.

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    105. 107 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      The Score reports that Ramirez has reiterated his desire not to be traded.

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    106. 108 mb21 says:

      He basically said that yesterday, but also said he’d consider it if presented with one. He wants to stay in Chicago. That much we know. He also said he’d consider a trade.

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    107. 109 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]That’s a whole lotta facepalm in one tweet.[/quote]
      Given 140 characters one should be able to comfortably fit 17 facepalms into one tweet. And the Cubs can’t forfeit until they have the #1 pick. Don’t be such a quitter.

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    108. 110 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=mb21]He basically said that yesterday, but also said he’d consider it if presented with one. He wants to stay in Chicago. That much we know. He also said he’d consider a trade.[/quote]I think his #1 goal is to become an FA. I think he’ll take whichever course of action affords him that opportunity.

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    109. 111 Mish says:

      [quote name=mb21]He basically said that yesterday, but also said he’d consider it if presented with one. He wants to stay in Chicago. That much we know. He also said he’d consider a trade.[/quote]So basically…he can go either way.

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    110. 112 Mish says:

      Think Cust was DFA’d. Seeing as the Legend that is Micah Hoffpauir is no longer w/ the Cubs and there’s no 1B in the system, is he worth looking at for the rest of the season? I haven’t looked at his park adjusted numbers and I know his power has tailed off but he has been hitting in some caverns in the AL his whole career. Could make sense as a temporary Pena replacement.

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    111. 113 Mish says:

      Thoughts on KG aside, this was a fun read:

      http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=14667

      I think it’s free.

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    112. 114 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I would want berselius to verify the validity of this mathematical masterpiece but it’s pretty fucking awesome.[/quote]
      Let me see if I can do it in MATLAB on this machine…

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    113. 115 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Let me see if I can do it in MATLAB on this machine…[/quote]
      Early signs point to hoax, but I’m checking my equations for typos.

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    114. 116 Berselius says:

      This is the result I get when I try to plot it

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    115. 117 Alvins Amygdala says:

      Looks like the Batman is having a three way doggy style. Looks like I’ve been using MATLAB all wrong (dying laughing)

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    116. 118 Berselius says:

      The fact that you can see the outline of the bottom of the wing and the top of the head makes me think this could just be a sensitivity thing

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    117. 119 Aisle424 says:

      I’ve told you to stop being so fucking sensitive. Pussy.

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    118. 120 Berselius says:

      Staring at the equations a bit longer, I think it does give the batman logo but only after some creative pruning. The first two terms give the bottom wing shape and the sweeping arc of the outer wings, and the plotter captures those pretty well. The third term gives the ears on the head, but it’s a cheat because that part of the function is also zero for a portion between the ears, and nowhere near the ear location.The 4th and 6th terms give the upper arcs of the wings (with some trimming…) and the 5th gives the top of the head.

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    119. 121 GBTS says:

      the cuntiness remains

      My favorite Metallica song.

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    120. 122 Berselius says:

      Another way of stating that is that while I think the batman logo solves that equation, it’s not the set of all possible points that do so

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    121. 123 Berselius says:

      Shit, this was much more fun than writing a preview

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    122. 124 GBTS says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Staring at the equations a bit longer, I think it does give the batman logo but only after some creative pruning. The first two terms give the bottom wing shape and the sweeping arc of the outer wings, and the plotter captures those pretty well. The third term gives the ears on the head, but it’s a cheat because that part of the function is also zero for a portion between the ears, and nowhere near the ear location.The 4th and 6th terms give the upper arcs of the wings (with some trimming…) and the 5th gives the top of the head.[/quote]

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    123. 125 ACT says:

      Fuk just struck out in his first Indians at-bat.

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    124. 126 ACT says:

      Corey Patterson leading off for the Cards today. I don’t understand where people get the idea that Tony LaRussa is a genius.

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    125. 127 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=ACT]Corey Patterson leading off for the Cards today. I don’t understand where people get the idea that Tony LaRussa is a genius.[/quote]Because his pitcher bats 8th, and it’s blinded everyone with science.

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    126. 129 Alvins Amygdala says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Because his pitcher bats 8th, and it’s blinded everyone with science.[/quote]
      http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fwY7cOKlb14/RrxjdzwhNaI/AAAAAAAAAVU/5BpavVXfy_Y/s400/DSC00879.JPG

      Vet animal models.

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    127. 130 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Because his pitcher bats 8th, and it’s blinded everyone with science.[/quote]
      SCIENCE!!!!

      I don’t think he does it as much anymore. Is Theriot hitting second still? Auto-outs at the top are awesome.

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