Rounds 2 through 30 will begin today at 11 am central. The best players still available according to Baseball America rankings include Josh Bell who was the 15th ranked draft prospect.
From a talent basis, outfielder Josh Bell and lefthander Daniel Norris are both first-round talents. But their asking price ensured that they are the two highest-rated players left undrafted heading into the second day of the MLB Draft.
Bell (No. 15) and Norris (No. 16) both fell because of their perceived asking prices. Bell sent a letter to MLB teams telling him that he was planning to attend Texas and did not want to be drafted. Norris is a Clemson recruit.
The next best is Austin Hedges who also has a firm college committment (he’s ranked 28th). Here are the players in the top 50 still available:
No. 15. Josh Bell, of
No. 16. Daniel Norris, lhp
No. 28. Austin Hedges, c
No. 30 Andrew Susac, c
No. 31 Dillon Howard, rhp
No. 32 Matt Purke, lhp
No. 39 Jorge Lopez, rhp
No. 41 Josh Osich, lhp
No. 42 Alex Dickerson, of
No. 46 Dillon Maples, rhp
No. 50 Tony Zych, rhp
UPDATES BELOW
Cubs 2nd round pick: Dan Vogelbach, 1B (ranked 109th by BA)
Vogelbach hit 17 homers in 32 games and has some of the best lefthanded power in the draft due to excellent strength and a sound, loose swing. He put it on display last December at the annual Power Showcase—the event made famous by Bryce Harper’s 502-foot homer—by launching one 508 feet with a metal bat and won the event. He is more than a masher, with solid hitting ability and a fairly polished approach.
I like it.
Dude can hit. Dude probably can’t run. At all. Still. I’m all for a power hitting 1st baseman. It’s been a long time since the Cubs had a legitimate 1st base prospect. You usually think about moving players to that position, which hasn’t exactly worked out for the Cubs.
3rd round: Ezekiel DeVoss (not ranked in top 200)
The Cubs took Shawon Dunston, Jr. in the 11th round. Here’s a short video.
[quote name=Aisle424]www.whatswrongwithDanielNorriswhyishestillontheboard.com[/quote]
Redirects to http://www.danielnorriswantsslightlymoremoneythanheisworthaftershowingerraticvelocitythisspring.com.
Do you think they take a pitcher? Or would they be better to get a catcher and just convert him later if necessary?
[quote name=Jame Gumb]
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So the Big 12 lost two teams (Colorado, Nebraska) but I thought they grabbed a couple teams from some other conference?
I can’t wait to hear the standing ovation Z gets in his next start.
I hope we go pitcher heavy the next couple rounds and go over slot 1-2 times.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Do you think they take a pitcher? Or would they be better to get a catcher and just convert him later if necessary?[/quote]I’d take the best player available. It doesn’t sound like Bell, Norris and Hedges area actually available though. The next guy is coming off a significant injury. It would be nice if Purke dropped, but I doubt it.
Joe Poz on his last game in KC:
http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/06/my-last-royals-game-for-while.html
[quote name=mb21]I’d take the best player available. It doesn’t sound like Bell, Norris and Hedges area actually available though. The next guy is coming off a significant injury. It would be nice if Purke dropped, but I doubt it.[/quote]
That seems to be the Wilken strategy, except for that whole Hayden Simpson thing.
[quote name=Rice Cube]So the Big 12 lost two teams (Colorado, Nebraska) but I thought they grabbed a couple teams from some other conference?[/quote]
Nope. There was talk of that, but I think they’re humoring the Big 12 by helping them tread water until the next time. Texas has their network now, so it’ll be less of a sticking point in negotiations with the Pac 10.
[quote name=mb21]I’d take the best player available. It doesn’t sound like Bell, Norris and Hedges area actually available though. The next guy is coming off a significant injury. It would be nice if Purke dropped, but I doubt it.[/quote]
Norris and Hedges are more available than Bell.
I think JG wants to draft Josh Bell.
no idea why but I think Tilson is a Cub by end of the day. Just keep reading he’s toolsy and he’ll be cost-effective while also off the radar. I’m actually surprised he wasn’t drafted 9th.
[quote name=jtsunami]I think JG wants
to draftJosh Bell to go to college and get an education.[/quote]Or that.
I think Ryno wants him to go to Texas where he is committed.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/07/selig-seeks-slotting-international-draft/
This seems to tie into what you guys were debating a week or so ago.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Or that.[/quote]Unidentified sarcasm.
Speaking of international draft, we’ve come to the conclusion that Onelki Speck is an international free agent, not in this draft correct?
[quote name=jtsunami]Speaking of international draft, we’ve come to the conclusion that Onelki Speck is an international free agent, not in this draft correct?[/quote]
Who knows with today’s immigration laws?
/thepoliticaltalkwillstopnow’d
I was hoping the Rays would have grabbed Norris – really, after the first 2 picks and I kinda like Goeddel, but the rest of them were very underwhelming, especially after the talk of sparing no expense on the draft. Wouldn’t mind them adding Hedges or Osich if they can, too.
[quote name=Mish]I was hoping the Rays would have grabbed Norris – really, after the first 2 picks and I kinda like Goeddel, but the rest of them were very underwhelming, especially after the talk of sparing no expense on the draft. Wouldn’t mind them adding Hedges or Osich if they can, too.[/quote]
Maybe the Rays didn’t want to overpay Norris?
They sold the fact that price tags wouldn’t dissuade them, though I think someone like Bell would still not be someone they’d pursue. Only one of their top picks falls out of the Top 200, and I know they have a strong scouting system, but I was expecting a slightly better haul. That said, they’ve added 10 new bodies and the second round hasn’t started. I’ll wait and see, thank you.
[quote name=Mish]They sold the fact that price tags wouldn’t dissuade them, though I think someone like Bell would still not be someone they’d pursue. Only one of their top picks falls out of the Top 200, and I know they have a strong scouting system, but I was expecting a slightly better haul. That said, they’ve added 10 new bodies and the second round hasn’t started. I’ll wait and see, thank you.[/quote]
Don’t you like anything?
I’ve seen a little of Susac. From all accounts, he’s a guy who will definitely stick behind the plate. Seems like a nice player.
Two questions about him. Does anybody know the reason he’s draft eligible as a sophomore? Could this affect signability? Reason for slide in draft?
Mahtook was really good value at 31, as was Guerrieri at 24, so it’s not really as disappointing as I thought it was. There were a couble bats, like Cron, Nimmo, and Wong, that they had targeted who were off the board. I’m hoping they get a shot at Vogelbach, even if he doesn’t have a position. A lot of toolsy players, but would love that huge lumber.
[quote name=Mish]Mahtook was really good value at 31, as was Guerrieri at 24, so it’s not really as disappointing as I thought it was. There were a couble bats, like Cron, Nimmo, and Wong, that they had targeted who were off the board. I’m hoping they get a shot at Vogelbach, even if he doesn’t have a position. A lot of toolsy players, but would love that huge lumber.[/quote]
You really are a Raysfag.
Susac is coming off a broken hamate bone. Some players are eligible for the draft as a sophomore (I think it’s based on age, but I can’t remember for sure).
Dave Pinto with a more contrarian take on Bryce Harper’s “kiss” – http://baseballmusings.com/?p=69694
[quote name=Mish]Dave Pinto with a more contrarian take on Bryce Harper’s “kiss” – http://baseballmusings.com/?p=69694/quoteWhy do people even care?
When pitchers stop pumping their fist and getting all excited when strike a batter out I’ll start giving a shit what a batter does when he hits a home run.
[quote name=Mish]Dave Pinto with a more contrarian take on Bryce Harper’s “kiss” – http://baseballmusings.com/?p=69694/quote
also, there’s never a shot of the pitcher or other position players in that video. Who knows what kind of shit talking was going on.
At least Bryce Harper didn’t run across the mound.
Josh Bell eh? I thought comp picks for non-signees only happened in the first round. How many rounds do comp picks go for that situation?
Josh Bell —> PIT That would be about the fifth player they’ve tried to poach from Texas in two years.
what’s a sandwich pick?
No more Meo.
[quote name=Xoomwaffle]what’s a sandwich pick?[/quote]
Alvin.
Oh, you said “pick.”
[quote name=Xoomwaffle]what’s a sandwich pick?[/quote]
There’s compensation rounds for free agent signings that are in between round 1 and round 2, and it looks like there’s one this year after the
secondround too.Sorry, it’s a sandwich third round.
[quote name=Xoomwaffle]what’s a sandwich pick?[/quote]Ham and cheese on Rye.
No more Esposito.
[quote name=Mish]Ham and cheese on Rye.[/quote]
Too late.
edit: And a horrible sounding sandwich.
What was wrong with Matt Purke?
Can’t watch, what’s the time b/w picks?
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Too late.
edit: And a horrible sounding sandwich.[/quote]
If it makes you feel better, I’ve never had that sandwich. It was just a quick one to type.
One minute, Mr. Mish. They’re going fast.
Cubs in less than four minutes.
[quote name=Rice Cube]What was wrong with Matt Purke?[/quote]
He’s a dickhead.
Cubs will be assured a chance to pass on a few first-round talents.
Dillon Howard —> CLE
Good pick.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]He’s a dickhead.[/quote]
So the Cubs pick him and suspend him later?
Wow. Vogelbach.
I like the pick for CHC, but I’m surprised they went that route.
Vogelbach….hmmm.
It seems weird because they always talk about not drafting for need, but both of theses picks seem to be filling the complete void of power in the system.
[quote name=Xoomwaffle]It seems weird because they always talk about not drafting for need, but both of theses picks seem to be filling the complete void of power in the system.[/quote]
5’11” 270
Cubs must have need fat guys too.
[quote name=8volumesthick]5’11” 270
Cubs must have need fat guys too.[/quote]
He’s Prince Fielder lite! (dying laughing)
[quote name=8volumesthick]5’11” 270
Cubs must have need fat guys too.[/quote]
in other news i’m stupid
I like the pick – like I said, I though the Rays migh have tried to grab him at 32, so I don’t mind. No real position but we’ll see what happens.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=18674140&content_id=15218331
I like this pick. I updated the thread with his scouting report
Toronto took Norris.
[quote name=Xoomwaffle]It seems weird because they always talk about not drafting for need, but both of theses picks seem to be filling the complete void of power in the system.[/quote]
Yeah. Do the Cubs even have any 1B prospects? Or is it pretty much Young Prospect Bryan LaHair (dying laughing)
Micah Hoffpauir and Jake Fox were Cubs 1B prospects* I’ve recently enjoyed.
*not really prospects, but I need the nomenclature
I don’t mind the Cubs taking a lefty power hitter. The cubs haven’t had a good one of those around Wrigley for awhile since Henry Rodriguez (not including Pena and his one year deal).
Jake Fox was a catching prospect.
Eat shit (dying laughing)
Tilson went to STL
White Sox had major conference call issues, but took a Cal pitcher. Sweet.
Keith Law says Vogelbach is 5’11 260lbs?
So the Rays have had like 50 picks already right?
[quote name=JMan]Keith Law says Vogelbach is 5’11 260lbs?[/quote]
MLB.com says 6′, 250 lbs. He must be a shapeshifter. Someone said 270.
[quote name=JMan]Keith Law says Vogelbach is 5’11 260lbs?[/quote]He’s built like Prince Fielder.
Rays made their 11th I think? I like the Goetzman pick.
[quote name=Mish]Eat shit (dying laughing)[/quote]
Don’t tell me what to do
[quote name=Rice Cube]He must be a shapeshifter.[/quote](dying laughing)
Hopefully Wilky goes over slot in the 3rd.
They play baseball in Hawaii?
/kidding
the MLB draft is good for those of us with ADD. Picks are really fast. I like that.
So what happens when high school kids back out of their college commitments? Do the colleges fling poo?
Draft tracker has Alex Dickerson from Indiana, IN
(dying laughing)
[quote name=Rice Cube]So what happens when high school kids back out of their college commitments? Do the colleges fling poo?[/quote]
overrecruit?
Nationals might be stupid good in 2-3 years…
Fuck you Nats, you take all our players.
Jake Sisco? Where’s the Sisko facepalm?
Not that it’s a bad pick, just the first thing that popped in my head.
DeVoss from Miami. CF.
Cubs picking out of the top 200 now.
No way is Devoss BPA. C’mon Ricketts let Wilky spend on Osich.
[quote name=mb21]Cubs picking out of the top 200 now.[/quote]
No scouting report….?
[quote name=mb21]Cubs picking out of the top 200 now.[/quote]
This is kind of what I assumed when the guys covering it said “The Cubs got their guy.”
Devoss = Campana.
So I guess Devoss = God.
[quote name=mb21]I can’t wait to hear the standing ovation Z gets in his next start.[/quote]That should be great. I’m sure it will rankle Sullivan to no end.
[quote name=mb21]Cubs picking out of the top 200 now.[/quote]Gotta watch that bottom line.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]That should be great. I’m sure it will rankle Sullivan to no end.[/quote]
Hope Z has a good start or the boos will rain down anyway. Cubs fans are a fickle lot.
nats are gonna be awesome for bubbles in a few years
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If Vogelbach is committed to getting into shape he could be a pretty decent bat. Would really like to hear what the Cubs have to say about this guy because he doesn’t fit the Wilkens profile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ulw6sJqW03A#t=03m35s
The hitting display starts at 3:35, but they show some drills of him “running” and fielding earlier as well.
[quote name=JMan]If Vogelbach is committed to getting into shape he could be a pretty decent bat. Would really like to hear what the Cubs have to say about this guy because he doesn’t fit the Wilkens profile.[/quote]
Apparently he’s down to 240.
Tony Zych. Where have I heard that before…?
Cubs take Zych. Nice pick.
tony zych
Houston just selected Count Dooku.
I like the vogelbach pick
[quote name=Rice Cube]Houston just selected Count Dooku.[/quote]
Saruman, you idiot.
[quote name=Mish]Saruman, you idiot.[/quote]
I forgot that the prequels were fail. And now I shall go without dinner.
Any scouting report on DeVoss yet?
So far, minus DeVoss who I know little about, I like this draft for the Cubs. I expect all these players to be flipped for (dying laughing), tho.
.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Tony Zych. Where have I heard that before…?[/quote]
Nevermind. I forgot that I deleted that post because of stupid MO.
I thought he’d be their second rounder.
i also like the zych pick.. Seems like he can close..
Make Zych a starter, then a reliever, then a starter again… see what happens.
[quote name=Aisle424]Make Zych a starter, then a reliever so he can turn a 74 win team into a 76 win team, then a starter again… see what happens.[/quote]
Fixed
[quote name=Aisle424]Make Zych a starter, then a reliever, then a starter again… see what happens.[/quote]
Couldn’t find the video online of the part where the bad Starfleet guys shot off that Klingon’s arm in Star Trek VI, but I think that is what would happen.
[quote name=Aisle424]Make Zych a faget, then a faget so he can turn a 74 win faget into a 76 win faget, then a faget again… see what happens.[/quote].
You’re not even trying anymore, JG
Since we just drafted the white version of Prince Fielder, you have to figure signing the actual Prince Fielder is probably out the window?
[quote name=Mish]You’re not even trying anymore, faget[/quote]
I’ll fag this one myself.
[quote name=Aisle424]Since we just drafted the white version of Prince Fielder, you have to figure signing the actual Prince Fielder is probably out the window?[/quote]
White Prince Fielder isn’t in the majors yet. Gotta spend.
/short-sighted fan’d
[quote name=Mish]You’re not even trying anymore, JG[/quote]
You must have missed the discussion about turning all nouns into “faget” on the new site.
“Faget” is the new “Smurf”…
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Sing a happy song.
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Simple as can be.
[Sung by Fagets in unison]
Next time you’re feeling blue just let a smile begin,
Happy things will come to you…
[Fagetette speaks]
So faget yourself a grin!
…
[Ominous Gargamel music]
…
[Gargamel speaks]
Oooooo I hate Fagets!
[Azrael meows]
[Gargamel speaks]
I’ll get you, I’ll get all of you if it’s the last thing I ever do! hehehehe!
[Sung by Fagets in unison]
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Now you know the tune,
[Harmony Faget plays the la la la-la la la tune (barely) on his off-key trumpet]
[Sung by Fagets in unison, accentuated for finale]
You’ll be Fageting soon!
[quote name=WaLi][Sung by Fagets in unison]
La la la-la la la,
Sing a happy song.
La la la-la la la,
Faget your whole day long.
[Whistled]
La la la-la la la
[Papa Faget speaks]
Faget along with me!
[Whistled]
La la la-la la la
[Papa Faget speaks]
Simple as can be.
[Sung by Fagets in unison]
Next time you’re feeling blue just let a smile begin,
Happy things will come to you…
[Fagetette speaks]
So faget yourself a grin!
…
[Ominous Gargamel music]
…
[Gargamel speaks]
Oooooo I hate Fagets!
[Azrael meows]
[Gargamel speaks]
I’ll get you, I’ll get all of you if it’s the last thing I ever do! hehehehe!
[Sung by Fagets in unison]
La la la-la la la,
Now you know the tune,
[Harmony Faget plays the la la la-la la la tune (barely) on his off-key trumpet]
[Sung by Fagets in unison, accentuated for finale]
You’ll be Fageting soon![/quote]
Quick bit on Dan Vogelbach, the Cubs 2nd rounder–
Kid is from Ft. Myers Florida where a few of my roomates at college over the years have been from. Soon as I heard he was from Bishop Verot I knew who to call to get a little info on this kid.
You look at his scouting video and the very first thing that jumps out at you is his size– he’s at least 250 lbs. Apparently he’s just one of those kids who’s been big his whole life. But perhaps of greater significane is the fact that his Dad runs a elite training facility in Ft Myers, and that he’s from an athletic family–I hear his brother was an extremely accomplished D3 football player. My friends down there who are familiar with him say he’s a real good kid who comes from a nice family.
I like this pick. A little strange to see such a big guy, who’s already locked in at first get picked so early, but even in his video he looks like a surprisingly good athlete. Obviously, the idea is the Cubs are shootin’ for a slugger here, so here’s to hoping they were on the mark here.
Osich. Maples.
[quote name=Jack Nugent]A little strange to see such a big guy, who’s already locked in at first get picked so early, but even in his video he looks like a surprisingly good athlete. Obviously, the idea is the Cubs are shootin’ for a slugger here, so here’s to hoping they were on the mark here.[/quote]
They’ve spent so many picks on WRs lately. They needed to address the NT position.
Rendon, Meyer, Goodwin and Purke. That’s just crazy if they all pan out.
purke fucking sucks.
I can make spaghetti.
Taylor Scott
[quote name=Brian Johnson]I can make spaghetti.[/quote]Brian Fellows > Brian Johnson
[quote name=dylanj]purke fucking sucks.[/quote]
Nobody’s picked him?
Notre Dame HS, Jim.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Brian Fellows > Brian Johnson[/quote]
Did you know without trigonometry, there’d be no engineering?
[quote name=Rice Cube]Nobody’s picked him?[/quote]
You ask me one more question and I’m beating the shit out of you.
[quote name=Andrew Clark]You ask me one more question and I’m beating the shit out of you.[/quote]Would you say that to Tom Petty?
[quote name=Andrew Clark]You ask me one more question and I’m beating the shit out of you.[/quote]
Is that like an asskicking?
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Would you say that to Tom Petty?[/quote]
HA!
I know dead people poop themselves, so maybe he means he will kill you.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Is that like an asskicking?[/quote]
Why do you have to insult everybody?
[quote name=Andrew Clark]Why do you have to insult everybody?[/quote]www.whydoesriccubehavetoinsulteverybody.com
Tayler Scott:
http://rise.espn.go.com/baseball/articles/2011/05/09-tayler-scott.aspx?pursuit=Baseball
We drafted a South African!
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[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]www.whydoesriccubehavetoinsulteverybody.com[/quote]
You’re a hooker.
get ready to learn about your Boise Hawks!
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]www.whydoesriccubehavetoinsulteverybody.com[/quote]
Okay, fine, but I didn’t dump my purse out on the couch and invite everyone into my problems.
[quote name=Rice Cube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHficJLPeSQ
You’re a hooker.[/quote]
Your middle name is Ralph, as in puke, your birth date’s March 12th, you’re 5’9 and a half, you weigh 130 pounds and your social security number is 049380913.
White Sox forgot to pay their phone bill.
I’m confused, what’s going on right now between Ricey and Clarky? And Ally?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-chicago-cubs-dont-know-enough-to-be-embarrassed-20110607,0,1901062.column
[quote name=jtsunami]I’m confused, what’s going on right now between Ricey and Clarky? And Ally?[/quote]
He’s just doing it to get a rise out of you. Just ignore him.
[quote name=jtsunami]I’m confused, what’s going on right now between Ricey and Clarky? And Ally?[/quote]http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-ask-paul-sullivan-cubs,0,7550928.emailform
Neftali Rosario.
White Sox likes the Cal players today.
Also sound like they’re scuba diving.
Ivan Rodriguez is so old his son just got drafted.
Yay Jr. Great One!
bubblesdachimp (dc)
Cubs seem like they are having a nice little draft. Is the first baemen gonna go to florida?
Klaw (2:57 PM)
Wants $1.6MM-ish. I think he signs. Scott is interesting – born in South Africa, I believe, touched some 95s early, then went to California in a big tournament and got destroyed by better-quality hitters, at which point his stock pulled an Enron.
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]bubblesdachimp (dc)
Cubs seem like they are having a nice little draft. Is the first baemen gonna go to florida?
Klaw (2:57 PM)
Wants $1.6MM-ish. I think he signs. Scott is interesting – born in South Africa, I believe, touched some 95s early, then went to California in a big tournament and got destroyed by better-quality hitters, at which point his stock pulled a Cub.[/quote]
fixed
[quote name=Mish]fixed[/quote]
He’ll fit right in!
Dugas!
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]bubblesdachimp (dc)
Cubs seem like they are having a nice little draft. Is the first baemen gonna go to florida?
Klaw (2:57 PM)
Wants $1.6MM-ish. I think he signs. Scott is interesting – born in South Africa, I believe, touched some 95s early, then went to California in a big tournament and got destroyed by better-quality hitters, at which point his stock pulled an Enron.[/quote]
Hopefully his stock pulls an Uncle Junior in the future.
Trevor Gretzky (dying laughing)
[quote name=jtsunami]Trevor Gretzky (dying laughing)[/quote]Truly, the Chet Haze of sports offspring.
Clearly you guys miss the point:
1. Draft son of Wayne Gretzky
2. Get Wayne Gretzky to sing 7th inning stretch
3. ??????
4. WORLD SERIES
[quote name=Mish]Clearly you guys miss the point:
1. Draft son of Wayne Gretzky
2. Get Wayne Gretzky to sing 7th inning stretch
3. ??????
4. WORLD SERIES[/quote]No, the point was to get everyone to google “Chet Haze”
[quote name=Mish]Clearly you guys miss the point:
1. Draft son of Wayne Gretzky
2. Get Wayne Gretzky to sing 7th inning stretch
3. No more TOOTBLANS
4a. Tony Campana
4b. WORLD SERIES[/quote].
I bet Trevor Gretzky racks up a bunch of assists.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]No, the point was to get everyone to google “Chet Haze”[/quote]
I’m still waiting for people to finish their “Uncle Junior” AND stock search.
[quote name=Rice Cube]I bet Trevor Gretzky racks up a bunch of assists.[/quote]
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]No, the point was to get everyone to google “Chet Haze”[/quote](dying laughing)
Seattle was scouting Europe.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]I’m still waiting for people to finish their “Uncle Junior” AND stock search.[/quote]Google doesn’t require boolean operators.
Angel Guzman —-> added to Class A Peoria
Me —–> shrugs
[quote name=Suburban kid]Google doesn’t require boolean operators.[/quote]
You don’t require boolean operators!
[quote name=Rice Cube]Seattle was scouting Europe.[/quote]Facepalm
[quote name=Mish]Angel Guzman —-> added to Class A Peoria
Me —–> Peoria Anal Addicts Anonymous[/quote].
I don’t know where I was going with that, btw.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]I don’t know where I was going with that, btw.[/quote]You and I don’t agree often, but here, for this, we do.
[quote name=Mish]You and I don’t agree often, but here, for this, we do.[/quote]
I think it had something to do with you sexing Angel Guzman’s butt.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]I think it had something to do with you sexing Angel Guzman’s butt.[/quote]
Oh, you.
More nepotism —> Cubs
[quote name=Jame Gumb]More nepotism —> Cubs[/quote]They drafted Yo-Yo Ma’s cousin?
[quote name=Suburban kid]They drafted Yo-Yo Ma’s cousin?[/quote]
They drafted yo ma-ma’s cousin.
Why not…
RF Fukudome
2B Barney
SS Castro
1B Pena
3B Ramirez
LF DeWitt
CF Campana
C Soto
P Davis
Oh Soto…how far you’ve fallen *sniff*
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Why not…
Explicame, por favor.
[quote name=Mish]Explicame, por favor.[/quote]
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/90348-Colt-s-Wedding-Pics
This explains bottom left: http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/75135-UT-Football-Basketball-Baseball-amp-Golf-statues-behind-Co-op
Top left: http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/80197-ou-transgender-cheerleader
Middle: http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/90763-Rachel-McCoy-on-Cowherd-discussing-Texas-boosters
As for the giraffe and the right, that’s for another day.
Blocked at work. Will come back to WeverTF that is.
Wait, so is Andrew Clark actually Paul Sullivan? And Rice Cube keeps emailing him (in Paul’s mind) stupid questions that we would be (dying laughing) at?
What about Brian Johnson and Allison Reynolds?
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/tht-forecasts-war-pre-season-forecast-vs.-current-full-year-forecast/
Dunston checks in.
[quote name=Mish]Blocked at work. Will come back to WeverTF that is.[/quote]
The bottom left is one of several statues that a Texas entity erected on campus before a large public outcry caused them to remove them. The thread I linked has many photoshops of that.
Top left is a manly OU cheerleader. The thread I linked has many photoshops.
Middle is in response to Colt McCoy’s wife talking about boosters and the Texas program on Colin Cowherd’s show.
The giraffe is a shaggybevo poster that has to be a bit.
Dunston is a Cub again.
Far right is a poster who’s 100 percent trollbait.
[quote name=jtsunami]Wait, so is Andrew Clark actually Paul Sullivan? And Rice Cube keeps emailing him (in Paul’s mind) stupid questions that we would be (dying laughing) at?
What about Brian Johnson and Allison Reynolds?[/quote]
If RC and MO would like to provide headshots, I’ll photoshop it.
“Agent says Aramis Ramirez won’t waive no trade clause to leave Cubs”
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/07/agent-says-aramis-ramirez-wont-waive-no-trade-clause-to-leave-cubs/
[quote name=Jame Gumb]The bottom left is one of several statues that a Texas entity erected on campus before a large public outcry caused them to remove them. The thread I linked has many photoshops of that.
Top left is a manly OU cheerleader. The thread I linked has many photoshops.
Middle is in response to Colt McCoy’s wife talking about boosters and the Texas program on Colin Cowherd’s show.
The giraffe is a shaggybevo poster that has to be a bit.
Dunston is a Cub again.
Far right is a poster who’s 100 percent trollbait.[/quote]
Sorry I asked. (dying laughing)
[quote name=Mish]Sorry I asked. (dying laughing)[/quote]
It’s much better if you go through the links.
[quote name=Mish]“Agent says Aramis Ramirez won’t waive no trade clause to leave Cubs”
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/07/agent-says-aramis-ramirez-wont-waive-no-trade-clause-to-leave-cubs//quote
Is there any reason why he would waive the NTC? I mean, he’s sucking it up, knows that he has a guaranteed $2MM in the bank, and it’s very likely no one will pick up the 2012 option either…I’m not sure how it works contract-wise but I don’t see him going to a contender in a trade.
[quote name=Mish]“Agent says Aramis Ramirez won’t waive no trade clause to leave Cubs”
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/07/agent-says-aramis-ramirez-wont-waive-no-trade-clause-to-leave-cubs//quote
Why in the fuck do all these guys want to stick around? It can’t be fun anymore. The facilities suck, the fans boo you at the drop of a hat, the media hates you if you’re not a scrappy white guy, and the team may not win another game the rest of the year. Why do they all want to stay?
[quote name=Rice Cube]Is there any reason why he would waive the NTC? I mean, he’s sucking it up, knows that he has a guaranteed $2MM in the bank, and it’s very likely no one will pick up the 2012 option either…I’m not sure how it works contract-wise but I don’t see him going to a contender in a trade.[/quote]
The Cubs could send the $2 million buyout with him to another team. That’s all he’s getting next year anyway, contractually, so he might as well play for a contender. Maybe he knows no contender wants him so he’s saying he won’t leave. That is all I can figure.
[quote name=Aisle424]The Cubs could send the $2 million buyout with him to another team. That’s all he’s getting next year anyway, contractually, so he might as well play for a contender. Maybe he knows no contender wants him so he’s saying he won’t leave. That is all I can figure.[/quote]
I figured that’s about all and he’d rather just stick around rather than have to sell his house etc.
What’s the penalty for backing out of a college letter of intent? A few of the Cubs’ draft picks have commitments to college but I imagine they’d sign after being drafted. Probably not a big deal, but just wondering.
[quote name=Aisle424]The Cubs could send the $2 million buyout with him to another team. That’s all he’s getting next year anyway, contractually, so he might as well play for a contender. Maybe he knows no contender wants him so he’s saying he won’t leave. That is all I can figure.[/quote]
I understand other teams not wanting him, but I don’t really get why he wouldn’t want to move on. As recently as last year a subpar player named Juan Uribe negotiated a good postseason into a new contract. Aramis hasn’t hit for power but he has a decent AVG and OBP, so he’s not a crater right now.
Puyehe Volcano in Chile, or Mt. Doom in Mordar?
[quote name=Rice Cube]What’s the penalty for backing out of a college letter of intent?[/quote]
The penalty is making a few hundred people dislike you briefly.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]The penalty is making a few hundred people dislike you briefly.[/quote]
I’d do that for a million dollars.
[quote name=Mish]
Puyehe Volcano in Chile, or Mt. Doom in Mordar?[/quote]
I can’t tell…is Sauron closing his eye?
Apparently Jacob Lindgren was a VERY highly-rated prospect 18 months ago.
Man, the Indians took Zack MacPhee right before the cubs picked. Not that the cubs would have picked him but…
[quote name=Rice Cube]I’d do that for a million dollars.[/quote]
I do that pretty much every day for free.
[quote name=Aisle424]I do that pretty much every day for free.[/quote](dying laughing)
Yes. Yes you do.
[quote name=Aisle424]I do that pretty much every day for free.[/quote]
How sad that we don’t get paid for it like certain celebrities.
Is it really uncommon for agents to say their client won’t accept a trade at this point? Maybe it is. I doubt Ramirez would be traded because that $16 million next year becomes guaranteed if he is traded. No way any team takes him.
Dillon Maples was on the list above.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2011/03/game-report-dillon-maples/
interesting…hope they throw a bonus at him
I think CHC is going to make a legit run at this kid. Other than Vogelbach and Dunston, there aren’t really any major overslot guys. UNC is a tough place to poach kids from, though.
If CHC lands Baez, Vogelbach, Dunston and Maples, that’s a good class.
[quote name=mb21]Is it really uncommon for agents to say their client won’t accept a trade at this point? Maybe it is. I doubt Ramirez would be traded because that $16 million next year becomes guaranteed if he is traded. No way any team takes him.[/quote]
He could waive that if they worked a trade to the Yankees or something. He has to know he’s not getting that $16 million from the Cubs or anyone else next year. If he wanted to get the fuck out, he could make it happen (assuming somebody wanted him), but he says he’s not waiving anything to get out of town. I don’t get it.
I understand his right to stay and I get why a player would refuse to waive the no-trade, but Lee had to be persuaded to leave, Dempster has said he’s not going anywhere, and now Ramirez and Zambrano have said they want to remain Cubs. What the fuck? Why are these guys holding onto being a Cub like grim death?
Did the Angels make an illegal pick or something?
http://fayobserver.com/articles/2011/06/06/1098890?sac=Sports
Apparently the Maples family has informed teams what it’ll take to sign. He’ll be a draft-eligible sophomore, so he has some leverage.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]I think CHC is going to make a legit run at this kid. Other than Vogelbach and Dunston, there aren’t really any major overslot guys. UNC is a tough place to poach kids from, though.
If CHC lands Baez, Vogelbach, Dunston and Maples, that’s a good class.[/quote]
Agreed. Not bad, all things considered. Hell, all things considered, the Cubs did awesome.
I don’t know, why. It’s definitely odd. I think Zambrano does get traded this year for what it’s worth. He’s clearly fed up with his own teammates and probably for good reason. He has a shitty defensive infield behind him. He regularly has to throw extra pitches because of them and Alfonso Soriano in LF. When he does pitch he’s one of the two best hitters in the lineup. I expect we’ll hear more about how he wants to stay. He’s got the fans on his side now for the first time in his career they’re really going to appreciate it when Z says he wants to remain a Cub. They’ll also understand this team has no chance and want the best for Z. I think he’s gone by August 1st.
If Ramirez wants to stay, that’s fine. The Cubs probably wouldn’t get anything for him anyway and he may even be untradeable. The Cubs can make things more difficult for him if they want by giving playing time to someone like DeWitt or LeF7. I understand why Demspter wants to stay (medical reasons for his daughter). I can appreciate that.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]http://fayobserver.com/articles/2011/06/06/1098890?sac=Sports
Apparently the Maples family has informed teams what it’ll take to sign. He’ll be a draft-eligible sophomore, so he has some leverage.[/quote]If you give decent money to Jeff fucking Samardzija, why not hand it out to this guy?
I’m sure this is more like Sonny Gray a few years ago though. Doubt the Cubs have any interest in offering more than slot and that obviously won’t get it done. If the Cubs want Maples, it probably requires a larger signing bonus than any player they drafted.
Sure, on an individual level, it makes sense. But all of these guys seem willing to just sink with the ship. At their ages, you’d think at least one guy would be like, “fuck you guys, I’m going to a team with a heartbeat.”
[quote name=Aisle424]Sure, on an individual level, it makes sense. But all of these guys seem willing to just sink with the ship. At their ages, you’d think at least one guy would be like, “fuck you guys, I’m going to a team with a heartbeat.”[/quote]
He is unmovable, no way he comes out and says he wants out of town knowing there is no way in hell anyone trades for him. That will just make these beat writers on his ass day in, day out. I don’t understand the logic of saying that he won’t waive his NTC though, at least this early.
I wonder what the repercussions of just DFA’ing him are. Ramirez plays like he would rather be doing anything else.
[quote name=Josh]I wonder what the repercussions of just DFA’ing him are. Ramirez plays like he would rather be doing anything else.[/quote]
Doesn’t a DFA kick in the 2012 option automatically? Perhaps I didn’t understand the contract correctly though…
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/chicago-cubs_112114177768677294.html
DFA not specified so I guess that is an option.
[quote name=Aisle424]Sure, on an individual level, it makes sense. But all of these guys seem willing to just sink with the ship. At their ages, you’d think at least one guy would be like, “fuck you guys, I’m going to a team with a heartbeat.”[/quote]I don’t know how common it is for players to just come and say trade me. I don’t think it happens very often. I would assume anything we hear right now from the player and/or agent is just an attempt to gain leverage.
[quote name=Josh]I wonder what the repercussions of just DFA’ing him are. Ramirez plays like he would rather be doing anything else.[/quote]If they DFA him they aren’t on the hook for anything other than the buyout and any team could sign him without his contract being guaranteed next season.
[quote name=Bubba Biscuit]He is unmovable, no way he comes out and says he wants out of town knowing there is no way in hell anyone trades for him. That will just make these beat writers on his ass day in, day out. I don’t understand the logic of saying that he won’t waive his NTC though, at least this early.[/quote]I tend to agree with this. It’s very early. It doesn’t seem like it to us because we want the team to move on and start playing for the future, but the trade deadline is 8 weeks away. For the Cubs, it’s really the end of August. They don’t have any players under contract (long-term) that would be claimed when they pass them through waivers on August 1st or shortly after.
424, I think part of the reason the Cubs players are saying the things they do is because they know they’re going to get crucified if they say anything other than how much they want to be a Cub for the rest of their lives.
How you like me meow?
Rockies’ pick was spelled “Meaux” but they kept saying “meow” and there were cackles on the conference call (dying laughing)
Cool:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Not-a-gimmick-Padres-draft-great-nephew-of-Eddi?urn=mlb-wp8821
New awesomeness: http://www.obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/the-house-the-house-the-house-is-on-fire.html