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  • Getting to Know: Adrian Cardenas

    Name: Adrian Cardenas

    Position: Bench/Utility

    Bats/Throws: Left/Right

    Current Age: 24

    Uniform Number: 45

    Who is this fucking guy?

    He's a former first round pick of the Phillies (2006), who actually appeared on Baseball America's Top 100 list in 2008 (#76) and 2009 (#74). He's been bouncing back and forth between the AA and AAA levels in the Oakland system since 2008, he was DFA'd this January and the Cubs claimed him off waivers.

    Yeah, but where is he ranked now?

    • ScoutingBook Combine Ranking (5/8/2012): #420
    • MiLB.com Season Preview: Unranked or n/a
    • Scout.com/FOX Sports: Unranked or n/a
    • ESPN: Unranked or n/a
    • The Sporting News: Unranked or n/a
    • Baseball America 2012: Unranked or n/a
    • Baseball Prospectus: Unranked or n/a

    Oh….

    Where will he play?

    More than likely he will play at second base when he sees time in the field.  He can also play third or shortstop if needed, but there was a reason he was moved down the defensive spectrum.  He's also played some in left field, so that is also a possibility late in games when the bench is getting thinned out.

    Might he actually enjoy reading something Alvin wrote?

    Possibly.  Alvin's letter to Theo Epstein that explained that Lake Michigan was, in fact, a lake and not the Atlantic Ocean as if Theo was awaking from major brain surgery, was a complete waste of internet ink as far as Theo is concerned. However, it might actually be useful information for Mr. Cardenas, who seems a bit confused by his new surroundings:

    Cardenas was eating dinner with Iowa outfielder Brett Jackson on Sunday night when he got the news from Iowa manager Dave Bialas. “I left there in a hurry, “ Cardenas said. “Brett paid for my meal. He said ‘Get out of here. Go call whoever you need to call.’ And I did. It’s been great so far. I didn’t realize Lake Michigan is so big."

    He also momentarily talked about watching the Cubs play a World Series game in Wrigley on TV before realizing he meant the 2003 NLCS.

    Why We Might Like Him:

    • He's been a pretty decent hitter in the minors, putting up an overall slash line of .303/.368/.417/.785
    • He doesn't strike out a ton and knows how to take a walk.
    • He's not Darwin Barney. (Snarky/realistic Cubs fans only)

    Why We Might Hate Him: 

    • His defense is reportedly not so good.
    • He doesn't hit for much power either.
    • He's not Darwin Barney. (Kool-Aid-drinking Cubs fans only)

    If You Rearrange the Letters in His Name You Get:

    RARE CANDID NASA

    What Cubs Blogosphere Thinks of Him:

    Bleacher Nation:

    The broad consensus is that the Cubs dropped DeWitt in favor of a cheaper, younger, better-hitting (though less power), more versatile, slightly worse defender. On the balance, it’s easy to see why the Cubs made the move, even if Cardenas isn’t anyone who’s going to knock your socks off.

    Cubs Den

    I don't think the Cubs have similar concerns with Cardenas. He's a good hitter but he's probably not going to be a star player. He doesn't play great defense or possess great speed or have 20 HR power. His only above average tool is his bat and while he can be an offensive upgrade over Darwin Barney, and certainly Blake DeWitt, it's not likely he's going to command a huge salary in the future, even if he does end up a starter. And in the small chance he does end up being that kind of player, then I'm sure the Cubs won't be disappointed anyway.

    Bullpen Brian

    Although the move lacks excitement, that doesn’t mean it’s without significance. The Cubs are in sore need of added depth, especially up the middle on defense. Think of Cardenas as a security blanket for Dale Sveum. He’ll give the skipper flexibility with the lineup, relief for Darwin Barney and Starlin Castro, and a valuable left-handed bat as a pinch-hitter.

    Obstructed View

    CAIRO projects a .284 wOBA for Cardenas. We could bump that up now that he's moved to the inferior league. Oliver projects a .310 wOBA. CAIRO projected DeWitt to have a .323 wOBA while Oliver projected .303. The Cubs probably got a bit worse in terms of projections, but they added a player with multiple options and 6 years of club control. Several of those would be at league minimum. They got rid of a player who would probably have made about $3 million over the next couple seasons. They added someone who does still have some potential to be a decent big leaguer.

    Special Bonus: He's starting tonight at 2nd base and batting 8th.

    150 Responses to “Getting to Know: Adrian Cardenas”

    1. mb21 1 mb21 says:

      I love the getting to know banner. Did you do that one? Great work.

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    2. mb21 2 mb21 says:

      I don’t have high expectations for Cardenas and I’m not even sure he’s better than DeWitt, but considering the money owed the two players it’s the right decision. I am at least looking forward to seeing him play. For now anyway.

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    3. Aisle424 3 Aisle424 says:

      mb21 wrote:

      I love the getting to know banner. Did you do that one? Great work.

      I have to do something around here to earn my gigantic OV paycheck.

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    4. 4 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I think we should all get really excited about small and/or gerrymandered samples.

      /everything on fangraphs

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    5. mb21 5 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      What are they getting excited about now?

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    6. Rizzo the Rat 6 ACT says:

      Hamilton just hit 2 more home runs, tying him with Kemp at 12.

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    7. mb21 7 mb21 says:

      I replace my iPhone 4 with the 4s yesterday and I just have to say, Siri kicks ass. If Mish gets one he can now have someone call him Batman.

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    8. Rice Cube 8 Rice Cube says:

      No no-hitter for Dempster tonight.

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    9. mb21 9 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Siri is thinking about it and wondering if I’d like to search the web for will ryan dempster throw a no-hitter tonight.

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    10. Rice Cube 10 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      I can see Mish changing Siri’s voice to Alfred Pennyworth.

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    11. 11 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/carlos-zambrano-reborn-in-miami/

      http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jose-altuve-is-starlin-castro/

      I expect some breathless column about LaHair being the best LHB of his peer group, as proven by his VORP on days when the wind is out of the east on Thursdays, any day now.

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    12. mb21 12 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I have no interest in reading either article. I took them off my reader awhile back and only visit them when links are posted here. I check out their stats of course, but their articles aren’t worth much anymore. Pretty sad to see that happen, but when you try to pump out the volume they do it’s inevitable.

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    13. 13 srbutch5 says:

      Nice to see the opposing pitcher have to pitch around someone in the Cubs lineup. Thanks LaHair.

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    14. Rice Cube 14 Rice Cube says:

      Oy, Soriano…that was a good changeup though.

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    15. Rice Cube 15 Rice Cube says:

      Yikes…borderline pitch there, but nice AB by Soto.

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    16. 16 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Damn, that was a brilliant AB by Soto ruined by a shitty call. Human Element!

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    17. 17 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Dempster is just beating the shit out of the bottom of the zone.

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    18. Rice Cube 18 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      For what it’s worth, Gameday does defend that call…just barely.

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    19. 19 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      In other words, by a margin it’s likely impossible for the ump to have seen.

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    20. 20 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      The first three pitches to Dempster should have been all called strikes according to Gameday. Either Gameday is off, or this ump is on his own program.

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    21. Rice Cube 21 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      It could have gone either way :D I thought it was a ball though.

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    22. Rice Cube 22 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      The ump’s strike zone is in quantum flux.

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    23. Berselius 23 Berselius says:

      Robot umpires now

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    24. 24 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      It seems so. His name is Dan Bellino. He’s a new ump with a rep for a quick hand. Six ejections last season, one already this season, all for arguing ball-strike calls. Here’s his Brooks card:
      http://www.brooksbaseball.net/umpire_cards/ump_cards.php?umpire=52

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    25. 25 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      Yes, please.

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    26. 26 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Dempster is playing a dangerous game with his slider.

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    27. 27 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Man, if he keeps feathering that slider up there belt-high, this Braves lineup is going to massacre him.

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    28. Berselius 28 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      If I wander blindly into traffic I will be hit by a car

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    29. 29 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      This sentence is true.

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    30. Rice Cube 30 Rice Cube says:

      BABIP smiles upon Ryan Dempster tonight.

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    31. 31 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      He is damn lucky Chipper didn’t send that meatball into orbit.

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    32. Berselius 32 Berselius says:

      Soriano doing Soriano things?

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    33. Berselius 33 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      The first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club

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    34. 34 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:

      Hesperus is Phosphorus.

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    35. 35 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      LaHair chased there. Looks like the plan on him tonight is away, away, away.

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    36. Rice Cube 36 Rice Cube says:

      @ Berselius:
      Nice catch :D

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    37. 37 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Holy crap, a Soriano walk. Surely the end of days is upon us.

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    38. 38 ACT says:

      You know who’s having a good day/year? Josh Hamilton.

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    39. Rice Cube 39 Rice Cube says:

      BABIP is no longer kind to Dempster.

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    40. Rizzo the Rat 40 ACT says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      She’s a harsh mistress.

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    41. Rizzo the Rat 41 ACT says:

      Drew Butera got a hit!

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    42. 42 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Seems like Dempster’s location is slipping.

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    43. mb21 43 mb21 says:

      Ryan Dempster’s ERA is going to go up after tonight’s game. Even if he throws a complete game and allows only one run.

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    44. Berselius 44 Berselius says:

      Damn, 4 HR for Hamilton tonight

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    45. Rizzo the Rat 45 ACT says:

      @ mb21:
      He could pitch into extra innings.

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    46. mb21 46 mb21 says:

      Let’s say from to F7 is a top of the rotation starter. How much does that change Jim Hendry’s draft analysis? I don’t think it changes too much, but that has been one of the biggest complaints.

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    47. mb21 47 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      That’s 25% of the Cubs team total.

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    48. Rice Cube 48 Rice Cube says:

      Sooooo…TOOTBLAN.

      Nice catch by Dempster.

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    49. Berselius 49 Berselius says:

      Too bad Cole Hamels isn’t on the O’s, he could teach Josh Hamilton a lesson about old school baseball. Real Baseball Players are more proud of a four single day.

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    50. 50 srbutch5 says:

      Josh Hamilton Is Kate Upton hot right now…so hot

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    51. Berselius 51 Berselius says:

      Josh hamilton has a 1212 wrC+ in today’s game

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    52. Berselius 52 Berselius says:

      More importantly, Hamilton is a single and a triple short of the cycle (dying laughing)

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    53. mb21 53 mb21 says:

      He also has a double tonight. Wow!

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    54. Rice Cube 54 Rice Cube says:

      What’s the record for most bases in a single game?

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    55. mb21 55 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Would’ve been a lot more impressive had he hit for the cycle rather than four measly homeruns.

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    56. Berselius 57 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      He has no respect for the game

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    57. mb21 58 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      He’s lucky he’s not in the National League. Call Hamels was not impressed by today’s performance.

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    58. 59 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      LaHair chased again.

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    59. mb21 60 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      According to Len it’s 18 in the American League and 19 in the National League.

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    60. Rice Cube 62 Rice Cube says:

      Soriano with hustle double (dying laughing)

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    61. 63 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Nice to see Sori turn on a meatball for once.

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    62. mb21 64 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      It’s like Soriano has healed but is unfortunately five years older than when the Cubs signed him.

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    63. 65 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Should’ve had a triple.

      /Brenly

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    64. Rice Cube 66 Rice Cube says:

      O’Flaherty being old school…let’s not plunk the guy eh?

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    65. 67 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      Yes. Maybe someone can give him a few ounces of transformation.

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    66. mb21 68 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I’ve been surprised at how complimentary Bob Brenley has been about Soriano this season. It’s shocking.

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    67. Rice Cube 69 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      TRANSFORMED

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    68. mb21 70 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      That shit is expensive. You can’t just go buy it at the supermarket.

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    69. mb21 71 mb21 says:

      I know Dempste’s had some good luck but this might be the best stretch of baseball we’ve seen from him in a Cubs uniform.

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    70. 72 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      Maybe the corporate masters have yanked the leash.

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    71. 73 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Soto going for silver here.

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    72. Rizzo the Rat 74 ACT says:

      @ mb21:
      Trying to boost his trade value.

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    73. 75 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I had an excellent pic of a silver sombrero ready. Dammit. This is the most disappointment I’ve felt during a Cubs game this season.

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    74. bubblesdachimp 76 bubblesdachimp says:

      CM PUNK!!!!!!!

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    75. 77 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:

      I bet Vince Conte has some.

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    76. Rizzo the Rat 78 ACT says:

      @ mb21:
      The baseball gods feel bad for how they treated him last year.

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    77. bubblesdachimp 79 bubblesdachimp says:

      In case anyone was wondering:

      Yes Bubbles owns CM Punks t shirt.. And Daniel Bryans…

      YES! YES! YES!

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    78. Rice Cube 80 Rice Cube says:

      Well, Dempster’s out…how many runs does the bullpen give up? I’m going with 2.

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    79. 81 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      PURPLE MONKEY DISHWASHER

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    80. Rizzo the Rat 82 ACT says:

      A.J. Burnett just pitched his third quality start out of 4. His ERA is still over 6.

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    81. 83 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      4

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    82. 84 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Ladies and Gents, Kerry Wood!

      (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)

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    83. bubblesdachimp 85 bubblesdachimp says:

      We should just let Bourne score…

      I know how this ends

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    84. 86 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:

      NOT AN ACE

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    85. bubblesdachimp 88 bubblesdachimp says:

      Kerry should honestly be released.. Gotta be a better reliever somewhere.

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    86. bubblesdachimp 89 bubblesdachimp says:

      I mean they were trying to give us an out and he couldnt get it over. Ugh

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    87. Rizzo the Rat 90 ACT says:

      Beltran has 2 homers. It’s only the second inning, so he’s on pace to get 9.

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    88. 91 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      This bullpen is a fucking tinder box.

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    89. 92 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Jesus Quincy Adams

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    90. bubblesdachimp 93 bubblesdachimp says:

      Should be first and third two outs.. Dont understand why people wont take outs when they are offered

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    91. Rizzo the Rat 94 ACT says:

      So, Hamilton hit one homer to the opposite field and 3 to center. Pulling is for wimps.

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    92. josh 95 josh says:

      Kerry Wood has transformed into a guy who’s not very good at baseball.

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    93. 96 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Good call, RC, but my prediction is looking good.

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    94. josh 97 josh says:

      I don’t know who CM Punk is, but he was pretty funny. I googled him and got this, so I figure for a wrestler he seems all right, http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2012/0507/552398/cm-punk/

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    95. josh 98 josh says:

      Nice!!

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    96. Rizzo the Rat 99 ACT says:

      I’ve always liked Kerry’s pickoff move.

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    97. Rice Cube 100 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      We’ve got another inning. You may win yet.

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    98. bubblesdachimp 101 bubblesdachimp says:

      Concerned about good old Dales bullpen management…

      Then again what choices does he have… But without the duo of Wood and Marmol this team is probably .500

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    99. josh 102 josh says:

      Kerry threw his glove into the stands as he walked off. I’ve never seen that before. he seemed really mad. I actually wonder if he’s going to call it quits after seeing that

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    100. Rice Cube 103 Rice Cube says:

      The HBP that wasn’t? It probably missed but DeJesus tried to sell it big time (dying laughing)

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    101. Rizzo the Rat 104 ACT says:

      Nothing like playing for 1 run when you’re down by 2.

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    102. Rizzo the Rat 105 ACT says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      They said on the radio that it hit him.

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    103. 106 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Three straight ABs, three pitches low-ish and away, LaHair chases pitcher’s pitch gets himself out.

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    104. josh 107 josh says:

      Nice offensive inning. And Castro comes up gimpy. The Cubs have turned post-pitching meltdowns turned offensive meltdowns into an art.

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    105. mb21 108 mb21 says:

      @ ACT:if he had any respect for the game he would’ve pulled them all the rightfield.

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    106. 109 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:
      Wow, yeah that’s not good.

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    107. josh 110 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      Hard to tell even in slo-mo. I would say it seemed to deflect slightly.

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    108. mb21 111 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      Wood has done that a few times over the course of his career.

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    109. josh 112 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      And his hat, then went into the showers. I’ve never seen a player do that.

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    110. josh 113 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      Oh okay, I’ve never seen anyone do that. If I did that, it would mean I was quitting since I can’t afford a new glove.

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    111. mb21 114 mb21 says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      This assumes their replacements would’ve been any better than they have been. Actually it assumes they would’ve been perfect.

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    112. Rizzo the Rat 115 ACT says:

      @ mb21:
      In the good old days, he would have been plunked at least once, preventing him from getting his 4 homers.

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    113. Rice Cube 116 Rice Cube says:

      Castro —> AWESOME

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    114. mb21 117 mb21 says:

      @ josh:
      I remember one time he did it and then used a different glove the next inning.

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    115. mb21 118 mb21 says:

      Real nice play by Castro there.

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    116. mb21 119 mb21 says:

      @ ACT:
      All four homerun games happened since 2008. It’s a very different game these days.

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    117. Rice Cube 120 Rice Cube says:

      If this doesn’t get to extras, then my 2-run bullpen prediction holds.

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    118. Rizzo the Rat 121 ACT says:

      Aram —————> 3-run triple.

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    119. josh 122 josh says:

      If Old School says you get plunked when you’re doing well how did guys like Ruth and Ted Williams not have about 100 HBPs?

      per season, I mean

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    120. Rice Cube 123 Rice Cube says:

      @ ACT:
      I bet he wasn’t hustling. Probably could’ve gotten all the way home.

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    121. Rizzo the Rat 124 ACT says:

      @ josh:
      What’s funny is that HBP’s actually peaked in the early 2000′s.

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    122. Rizzo the Rat 125 ACT says:

      OK, HBP’s were most common in the 19th century, but since then, most of the years in which it was most common are in the 21th century (it was high after the turn of the 20th, though).

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    123. Rizzo the Rat 126 ACT says:

      In the modern era (since 1901), here are the years with the highest HBP rates.

      National League:

      2006
      2005
      2003
      2001
      1901
      2007
      2004
      1903
      2002

      American League:

      2001
      2004
      2003
      2002
      1911
      1901
      2008
      2007
      2005

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    124. josh 127 josh says:

      i think it was appropriate that I was taking a shit when this game ended.

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    125. Rice Cube 129 Rice Cube says:

      @ ACT:
      I guess it took him about 13 seconds to get to 3B. Probably got in there standing up.

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    126. Rice Cube 130 Rice Cube says:

      Nice tats, Mish.

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    127. JonKneeV 131 jtsunami says:

      srbutch5 wrote:

      Josh Hamilton Is Kate Upton hot right now…so hot

      Geovanny Soto is Kim DeJesus hot right now.

      /josh’d

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    128. WaLi 132 WaLi says:

      So, this e-mail was sent out to our company today from a disgruntled colleague:

      Dear all, just to let you know that due to XXXXX incompetence as Logistics and Transport Supervisor 7 drivers are to lose their jobs. Not really a surprise as he only ever does half a job in all his roles. Still all the time his failures are overlooked others will suffer. On the bright side the company will save about £240K this year, could be even more if they get rid of XXXXX. You may think this is just sour grapes, and it is.

      The best part is he sent the e-mail out to himself first, then sent it to our corporate location in Illinois, then to all of North America. (dying laughing)

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    129. Mucker 133 Mucker says:

      @ WaLi:
      He sounds like a wanker.

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    130. josh 134 josh says:

      @ WaLi:
      I’ve never been annoyed enough at a job to actually send the email, but I’ve conceived of a few in my brain.

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    131. WaLi 135 WaLi says:

      @ josh:
      I’m assuming this guy was one of the drivers who was let go so he had nothing to lose. The confusing thing to me is since he works in the UK, why send the e-mail to NA?

      The worst part though is when someone (usually accidentally) sends an e-mail out to the whole company, the whole day is spent deleting e-mails from people who reply “I don’t think this was meant for me” or people who reply all saying “Don’t reply all!”

      Dumbasses.

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    132. josh 136 josh says:

      @ WaLi:
      People who Reply All inappropriately should be drug out into the street and shot.

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    133. josh 137 josh says:

      All-star voting. I always look for Josh Hamilton in the first base section. Oh right, he’s like their center fielder.

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    134. josh 138 josh says:

      I’m voting for the best player in each league by WAR as of this moment. Like a boss. I’m voting for Kinsler over Kelly Johnson. They’re tied.

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    135. GBTS 139 GBTS says:

      Josh, OBB is fucking fantastic. Particularly the latest one.

      Do the two fans have names?

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    136. josh 141 josh says:

      @ GBTS:
      Uh…. smart guy and beer guy?

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    137. GBTS 142 GBTS says:

      @ josh:
      Every time Beer Guy takes a sip of Old Style it cracks me up.

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    138. josh 143 josh says:

      @ GBTS:
      He has the rare ability to talk and drink beer at the same time. Speaking of which, I had an Old Style for the first time at my last trip to Wrigley, in 2010. Terrible!

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    139. WaLi 144 WaLi says:

      @ josh:
      Which is which?

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    140. WaLi 145 WaLi says:

      @ mb21:
      I think the way they worded the question has something to do with it. They worded it saying “We are right and you agree” or “We are right and you disagree”.

      It should be worded something like “I think sac bunts have a place in the game” or “I think there is rarely a time a sac bunt is justifiable”

      If they want to see if you read the book or not, they can say “I read the book and I think sac bunts have a place” etc. etc.

      Basically they set up the question that if you answer against them, you are wrong.

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    141. josh 146 josh says:

      Maybe the Thinker and the Drinker?

      I’m terrible with names, as evidenced by my username.

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    142. mb21 147 mb21 says:

      WaLi wrote:

      Basically they set up the question that if you answer against them, you are wrong.

      But if you disagree then you are wrong. Teams have to bunt on occasion. There are situations in which win expectancy might increase while run expectancy decreases with a bunt. The people who visit that site and take part in that poll know that. It would be a more interesting poll at Fangraphs and ESPN.

      The fact that bunts are necessary and when used right can be beneficial doesn’t mean teams are following that strategy. That’s what MO gets upset about (I think). Teams are just giving away outs more than they should be.

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    143. dylanj 148 dylanj says:

      a very erotic minor league update is up

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    144. Rice Cube 149 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      I like that one. You should get them personalized Cub jerseys.

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    145. GBTS 150 GBTS says:

      josh wrote:

      I’m terrible with names, as evidenced by my username.

      (dying laughing)

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