Colorado Rockies @ Chicago Cubs (WRONG!)

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Rained out. Makeup scheduled for the end of June.

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Rockies wOBA wRC RS Cubs wOBA wRC RS
Dexter Fowler .347 .58 -.03 Kosuke Fukudome .342 .56 -.06
Jonathan Herrera .298 .38 .02 Starlin Castro .332 .51 -.03
Carlos Gonzalez .381 .67 .00 Jeff Baker .312 .42 -.01
Troy Tulowitzki .382 .66 .04 Aramis Ramirez .350 .54 -.03
Todd Helton .345 .51 -.01 Carlos Pena .378 .62 -.01
Seth Smith .361 .55 .03 Marlon Byrd .338 .48 -.01
Jose Lopez .282 .28 .06 Tyler Colvin .318 .40 .00
Jose Morales .311 .37 .00 Koyie Hill .273 .24 -.02
Jhoulys Chacin .175 .00 .00 Casey Coleman .175 .00 .00
4.0 .1 3.8 -.2

 

Starting Pitcher IP/GS FIP
Jhoulys Chacin 5.87 4.24
Casey Coleman 5.49 5.14
Bullpens xFIP
Rockies 3.18
Cubs 4.03

Score: Rockies 5.1, Cubs 3.5
Win Probability: 37.3%


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  1. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]RS = -.2? So this team will actually lose runs relative to an average team?[/quote]Yes. The projected UZR (over the course of the season) of the Cubs lineup today is below:

    Cubs Proj UZR
    Kosuke Fukudome -9
    Starlin Castro -5
    Jeff Baker -1
    Aramis Ramirez -4
    Carlos Pena -1
    Marlon Byrd -1
    Tyler Colvin 0
    Koyie Hill -3

    When Tyler Colvin is your best fielder, you got problems. (dying laughing)

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  2. Mercurial Outfielder

    This Cubs team is the very definition of mediocrity. They are the most perfectly mediocre bunch I have ever seen.

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  3. Rice Cube

    Oh I’m sorry…I thought RS meant “runs scored,” not “runs saved.” That makes more sense, given you already have wRC next to it. Thanks.

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  4. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Dumb question, but catchers can’t really have a UZR, can they?[/quote]No, but I use the projected CAIRO defense for catchers.

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  5. Silky Johnson

    Win Probability: 37.3%

    This is too high.

    What can I say about this roster that hasn’t already been said about Afganistan? It’s bombed out and depleted.

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  6. mb21

    I have Fukudome’s CF projection for some reason. He’s -.5 in RF so he’s now tied with Colvin for the best fielder in today’s lineup.

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  7. fight2win

    [quote name=Muck Muckintuck]Is it me, or did Castro swing at ball 4 like 3 times in as many at bats yesterday?[/quote]
    He really opens up his zone after two strikes, but his patience before then is surprising good.

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  8. Mucker

    [quote name=fight2win]He really opens up his zone after two strikes, but his patience before then is surprising good.[/quote]I thought the same thing. I was impressed with his eye for the first 3 balls, then he swings at complete shit. It’s like he wants nothing to do with a walk and wants to put the ball in play every time.

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  9. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Muck Muckintuck]I thought the same thing. I was impressed with his eye for the first 3 balls, then he swings at complete shit. It’s like he wants nothing to do with a walk and wants to put the ball in play every time.[/quote]Or that he’s got some coach in his ear telling him his job is to hit the ball not watch it go by.

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  10. mb21

    Yeah, I don’t really care about defensive projections or even the defensive metrics for that matter. I just included it just because. Over several years I think they’re pretty good, but you need such a large sample for them to be any good.

    I don’t really agree that Pena is good over at 1st base though. I thought Derrek Lee was a pretty good fielder earlier in his Cubs career, but by 2007 and 2008 he was pretty much stationary over there. Pena hasn’t even made the plays that Lee would have made. The defensive metrics seem to agree with that too. Doesn’t matter which one you look at. He’s been below average in his career.

    -49 Total Zone. His best season ever was 1 TZ.

    -24.3 Total Zone Location (since 2005). Best season was 0.1.

    -16.7 UZR. Best season at 5.8.

    The fans had him as above average in 2009 and 2010, but that’s a lot of agreement between the metrics. The best is DRS at -5.

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  11. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Or that he’s got some coach in his ear telling him his job is to hit the ball not watch it go by.[/quote]
    In that Passan article about Castro, Jaramillo is quoted as saying he would rather Castro put the ball in play than take a walk.

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  12. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Rice Cube]In that Passan article about Castro, Jaramillo is quoted as saying he would rather Castro put the ball in play than take a walk.[/quote]/facepalm

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  13. mb21

    I’d rather he put the ball in play than take a walk. Jaramillo also said he needs to work on recognizing strikes and balls. He wants him to swing at pitches that are strikes, which is what he should do. A walk is a good thing, but if the pitcher isn’t going to give you one you have to swing the bat. I don’t want Castro or any player going to the plate looking for a walk. I want them to take it if it’s there. If Castro can develop that skill he just might become a superstar (still needs more power though).

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  14. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]I’d rather he put the ball in play than take a walk. Jaramillo also said he needs to work on recognizing strikes and balls. He wants him to swing at pitches that are strikes, which is what he should do. A walk is a good thing, but if the pitcher isn’t going to give you one you have to swing the bat. I don’t want Castro or any player going to the plate looking for a walk. I want them to take it if it’s there. If Castro can develop that skill he just might become a superstar (still needs more power though).[/quote]
    I think that’s probably the idea, but the quote is a bit out of context. If the ball is close enough on a two-strike count you’d want to protect the plate anyway.

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  15. GBTS

    I don’t want Castro or any player going to the plate looking for a walk.

    I absolutely want Koyie Hill going to the plate looking to take a walk. I’d actually rather he not even bring a bat.

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  16. Aisle424

    [quote name=mb21]Anyone know if this game is going to get in today?[/quote]
    They will do their damndest since this is the Rockies’ only visit.

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  17. Eddie

    How many wins has Russell cost the Cubs so far over the projection for Cashner? He’s been 4 runs below replacement level after only 3 starts.

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  18. AndCounting

    [quote name=mb21]Anyone know if this game is going to get in today?[/quote]I think it’s a coin flip. They haven’t announced a projected first pitch, but I’m hearing conflicting weather reports about this afternoon. I guess they’re expecting the rain to pick up at 2, but they want to get the game in since it’s the Rockies’ only trip out.

    Also, scheduling all the NL West teams to play in Chicago in April? Brilliant idea.

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  19. GBTS

    Also, scheduling all the NL West teams to play in Chicago in April? Brilliant idea.

    Knock it off. Those MLB schedulers are human beings.

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  20. mb21

    [quote name=Eddie]How many wins has Russell cost the Cubs so far over the projection for Cashner? He’s been 4 runs below replacement level after only 3 starts.[/quote]Russell has been -.4 WAR so far. Cashner would probably have been about .3 so about .7 wins. Then add in Wells/Coleman and you get about the same thing. If Wells and Cashner were healthy this team would probably be .500 right now. That’s not possible considering they’ve played 23 games, but you know what I mean.

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  21. mb21

    [quote name=AndCounting]I think it’s a coin flip. They haven’t announced a projected first pitch, but I’m hearing conflicting weather reports about this afternoon. I guess they’re expecting the rain to pick up at 2, but they want to get the game in since it’s the Rockies’ only trip out.

    Also, scheduling all the NL West teams to play in Chicago in April? Brilliant idea.[/quote]According to The Weather Channel online it looks like it should clear off between 4 and 5.

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  22. Suburban kid

    [quote name=GBTS]Knock it off. Those MLB schedulers are human beings.[/quote]Actually I don’t think they are.

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  23. mb21

    The least they could have done with these NL West games was schedule them in mid April. Somewhere around April 70th to 110th.

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  24. Suburban kid

    Where can one post a FanPost inviting everyone to thank MB21 and express their appreciation for everything he does for this community?

    Because I want to avoid that shit.

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  25. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Suburban Kid]Where can one post a FanPost inviting everyone to thank MB21 and express their appreciation for everything he does for this community?

    Because I want to avoid that shit.[/quote]/deletes first FanPost

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  26. Suburban kid

    Rockies announcers say it’s still raining but they hope to get it in. Doesn’t sound like that will be anytime soon though.

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  27. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=mb21]According to The Weather Channel online it looks like it should clear off between 4 and 5.[/quote]
    It’s not even 2 pm yet. I’ll wait, thank you.

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  28. jtsunami

    [quote name=mb21]Thanks, JT. How old is he?[/quote]22 I think? He has a 12 K 0 BB game not too long ago and in the interview he’s now throwing sinker, slider, change-up. Draft profile showed his knuckle-curve was plus. I guess he scrapped it.

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  29. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=jtsunami]22 I think? He has a 12 K 0 BB game not too long ago and in the interview he’s now throwing sinker, slider, change-up. Draft profile showed his knuckle-curve was plus. I guess he scrapped it.[/quote]
    Draft kid with one plus-plus pitch and make him ditch it. See what happens.

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  30. mb21

    [quote name=jtsunami]22 I think? He has a 12 K 0 BB game not too long ago and in the interview he’s now throwing sinker, slider, change-up. Draft profile showed his knuckle-curve was plus. I guess he scrapped it.[/quote]I just checked and he doesn’t turn 23 until the end of November. His strikeouts have increased significantly so far this season. Wonder if it has to do with the addition or subtraction of a pitch.

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  31. jtsunami

    [quote name=mb21]I just checked and he doesn’t turn 23 until the end of November. His strikeouts have increased significantly so far this season. Wonder if it has to do with the addition or subtraction of a pitch.[/quote]Poster on PSD says the org is raving about him. 89-94 fastball with heavy sink. Sounds like Webb.

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  32. mb21

    They’d have to be excited about him to bump him to AA so quickly in the season. He’s had good numbers before this, but not the strikeouts. Walks have always been good too, which is nice for a pitching staff that walks so many guys.

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  33. GW

    [quote name=mb21]They’d have to be excited about him to bump him to AA so quickly in the season. He’s had good numbers before this, but not the strikeouts. Walks have always been good too, which is nice for a pitching staff that walks so many guys.[/quote]
    Seems like his sinker is the key. Lots of groundballs mixed with decent periphs.

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  34. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=mb21]They’d have to be excited about him to bump him to AA so quickly in the season. He’s had good numbers before this, but not the strikeouts. Walks have always been good too, which is nice for a pitching staff that walks so many guys.[/quote]
    He was reportedly the last cut from AA camp, so temper your expactations, dickhead.

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  35. GBTS

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]I’m still waiting on your list of names for the BCB wall.[/quote]Make sure you include the Babbitt brothers and James Dalton.

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  36. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]I’m still waiting on your list of names for the BCB wall.[/quote]In addition to the ones already on there? Aren’t most of us already there?

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  37. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=GBTS]Make sure you include the Babbitt brothers and James Dalton.[/quote]
    Was Dalton banned?

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  38. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]In addition to the ones already on there? Aren’t most of us already there?[/quote]
    I don’t have the original wall anymore. I need a new list.

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  39. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]I don’t have the original wall anymore. I need a new list.[/quote]off the top of my head:
    dylanj
    ksucubbie
    SantosSorrow
    Ryno
    Maddog
    Thelonious Drunk
    Gary Varsho
    Mucker
    Kermit
    Gay Jesus
    Desipio
    Perkins
    Gaius Marius

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  40. Mish

    KG:

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    # Ryan Flaherty, UT, Cubs (Double-A Tennessee): 3-for-5, 2B, 2 R, 2 K. Hitting .348/.400/.636 in 19 games; has played five positions (2B, 3B, SS, LF, RF) already for Smokies and that’s his future big league role as super sub.

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    # Austin Kirk, LHP, Cubs (Low-A Peoria): 6 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 6 K. A third-round pick in 2009, Kirk has average-to-plus velocity for a southpaw and a good breaking ball, and has allowed just 10 hits in 18 innings.

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  41. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]off the top of my head:
    dylanj
    ksucubbie
    SantosSorrow
    Ryno
    Maddog
    Thelonious Drunk
    Gary Varsho
    Mucker
    Kermit
    Gay Jesus
    Desipio
    Perkins
    Gaius Marius[/quote]
    Updated. We’re going to need a smaller wall or more names.

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  42. Xoomwaffle

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]off the top of my head:
    Thelonious Drunk
    Gay Jesus[/quote]
    (dying laughing)

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  43. mb21

    I looked through the schedules briefly and saw 6 similar off dates that these two teams have the rest of the season. The first is May 23rd and the Rockies play a doubleader at home on the 24th so that one is out. Another one in early June is after the Rockies play the Dodgers and a day before they play the Giants so that’s likely out. One of the dates was in September and I doubt they schedule a make-up game from this early in the season that late in the season. June 23rd or August 18th makes the most sense if they decide to cancel the game today.

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  44. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]Updated. We’re going to need a smaller wall or more names.[/quote]There were bunch around the LOHO mass banning, then the HJE/Desipio mass banning, and finally the ACB mass banning…

    oh, don’t forget ccd

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  45. mb21

    [quote name=Suburban Kid]Game canceled. Make up date is June 27 at 1.20 pm[/quote](dying laughing) so much for my research

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  46. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=mb21]Whatever happened to Thelonious Drunk?[/quote]No idea. Dude dropped off the face of the earth.

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  47. mb21

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]No idea. Dude dropped off the face of the earth.[/quote]He was one of the most prolific commenters on ACB for a couple years and then literally disappeared.

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  48. GBTS

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]Was Dalton banned?[/quote]He told someone who disagreed with Al to take a break and stay on it.

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  49. Suburban kid

    [quote name=Mish]I’ll make that wall one day.[/quote]Why not today? You, and Al, suddenly have some time on your hands.

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  50. Xoomwaffle

    [quote name=GBTS](dying laughing) It still makes me laugh that Yellon banned shawn, then reinstated him as an editor.[/quote]
    Wait, Shawn got banned? I just can’t imagine that.

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  51. GBTS

    I believe Shawn was banned when he told Al to watch a PBS video where Arthur explains the difference between a fact and an opinion.

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  52. Suburban kid

    [quote name=GBTS]I believe Shawn was banned when he told Al to watch a PBS video where Arthur explains the difference between a fact and an opinion.[/quote]That was awesome.

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  53. Xoomwaffle

    [quote name=Suburban Kid]That was awesome.[/quote]
    (dying laughing) I do remember that now. That thread was so amazing.

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