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  • Nationals at Cubs Chat

    The games threads this year, for as long as we do them anyway, are going to be abbreviated compared to the past. Stephen Strasburg gets the ball for the Nationals and Ryan Dempster gets his 2nd consecutive opening day start. Let's hope it goes better than the last one. Opening Day hasn't gone well for Cubs starters since 2005. They've thrown 35 innings, allowed 40 hits and 25 runs (all earned). They've walked 24, struckout 33 and allowed 9 home runs.

    Pretty sure that kind of performance will get a loss against Strasburg.

    Most of the games this year we're just going to be using the comments for game threads, but once in awhile we'll be using the chat room. Today is one of them. You can still use the comments here of course. Or the forum. You can find the chat room here.

    EDIT: That chat room was crashing our server. Let's try this instead

     

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    106 Responses to “Nationals at Cubs Chat”

    1. josh 1 josh says:

      I was thinking this year it might be fun to record the hits that an individual batter makes compared to his at-bats and develop some ratios based on his batting performance. I will call it the Batting Performance Ratio Number, or Baper-Ratnum.

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    2. Pezcore 2 Pezcore says:

      Newt Gingrich goes broke. No more US States will be banished. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/05/11036798-gingrich-group-files-for-bankruptcy

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    3. Rice Cube 3 Rice Cube says:

      I like that chat.

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    4. mb21 4 mb21 says:

      Same chat room, but not in an iframe: http://www.obstructedview.net/ovchat/

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    5. mb21 5 mb21 says:

      We’re discredited again.

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    6. Mish 6 Mish says:

      Well that was fun.

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    7. Berselius 7 Berselius says:

      Maybe we can look into using one of those coveritlive chats like fangraphs uses

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    8. Mish 8 Mish says:

      Haha is there a real chance Soriano could be our best offensive player this year? (dying laughing)

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    9. mb21 9 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      That’s a good idea, b. You got time to look into that? If not I can do it later on.

      I’m out for a few hours.

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    10. Mish 10 Mish says:

      TOOTBLAN!

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    11. mb21 11 mb21 says:

      (dying laughing)

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    12. GW 12 GW says:

      ugh

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    13. Berselius 13 Berselius says:

      I thought he made it.

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    14. GBTS 14 GBTS says:

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    15. Berselius 15 Berselius says:

      Byrd!

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    16. Berselius 16 Berselius says:

      damn, that was nearly 2 more runs

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    17. josh 17 josh says:

      Did we give up on the chat?

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    18. josh 18 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      Stealing 3rd. Is it ever a good idea?

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    19. Mish 19 Mish says:

      CUBS SCORE, WORLD IMPLODES.

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    20. Berselius 20 Berselius says:

      @ josh:

      Yeah, it’s donezo. I’m looking for another chat optoin

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    21. Suburban kid 21 Suburban kid says:

      Did anyone else notice Pat double-clutch on his opening day CCBIOTA?

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    22. josh 22 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      I was still on for some reason.

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    23. josh 23 josh says:

      Another nice inning by Demp.

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    24. GBTS 24 GBTS says:

      @ josh:
      It’s like flirting with your friend’s mom. Damn, you better be sure.

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    25. Berselius 25 Berselius says:

      I set up a new chat, embedded in the main post

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    26. 26 oog says:

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    27. josh 27 josh says:

      @ oog:
      I didn’t think I would like that when I first saw it, but then I really REALLY did.

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    28. 28 aaron says:

      is bill murray drunk?

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    29. mb21 29 mb21 says:

      Holy shit, Dempster. What a start.

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    30. 30 Nate says:

      I guess we see why Theo didn’t want to resign Wood before RIcketts went over his head.

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    31. Rizzo the Rat 31 ACT says:

      Nice pointless slide by DeRosa.

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    32. PFD 32 PFD says:

      Next year is here, right guys???

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    33. Rice Cube 33 Rice Cube says:

      It’s a way of (L)ife.

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    34. Rizzo the Rat 34 ACT says:

      I don’t think I like this new “pitch to contact” Marmol.

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    35. Berselius 35 Berselius says:

      I’m not bothered by the Mather TOOTBLAN. I think he was out either way, that ball was hit pretty hard right at the 3b

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    36. josh 36 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      No, that’s not going to work.

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    37. Rizzo the Rat 37 ACT says:

      To be fair, Marm looked (to my eyes) to have good stuff. His velocity was good, his control was decent, and his slider had a lot of movement. He just didn’t get those swinging strikes.

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    38. josh 38 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      Couldn’t see it, but I’ll take your word. Still a disappointing ending all around.

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    39. Rizzo the Rat 39 ACT says:

      @ Berselius:
      Ditto. There’s nothing wrong with having the runner go on contact in that situation. I suspect most managers would do the same. That was just plain bad luck.

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    40. Rizzo the Rat 40 ACT says:

      That said, the play looked ugly as sin.

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    41. Mish 41 Mish says:

      Yeah I don’t really consider that a TOOTBLAN. He’s going on contact, and it was a laser right at a drawn in 3rd basemen. Maybe he was thrown out like a nincompoop, but the decision to go wasn’t.

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    42. Rizzo the Rat 42 ACT says:

      Not a lot of runs being scored today.

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    43. Rizzo the Rat 43 ACT says:

      I guess that’s what happens when teams use their best pitchers in weather not conducive to hitting.

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    44. josh 44 josh says:

      If Sori doesn’t get caught stealing 3rd, Bryd’s hit might have been worth 2.

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    45. 45 srbutch5 says:

      Your 2012 Chicago Cubs
      TOOTBLANS > Runs

      Can you feel it?

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    46. Rizzo the Rat 46 ACT says:

      Also, replays showed Sori was safe at third.

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    47. mb21 47 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      I’m not particularly bothered it by it just like I wasn’t bothered by Soriano’s either. Most of the time I don’t mind the baserunning mistakes the Cubs have made. Some of them you can’t help. Some of them were dumb. That happens for all teams. The problem I have is that it just happens all the time.

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    48. Rizzo the Rat 48 ACT says:

      There have been zero home runs hit so far in the National League.

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    49. josh 49 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      Yeah, I’m not upset if that happens once in a while, but the carryover from Spring obviously makes it seem more important/acute. I guess what more bothers me about Soriano stealing is the chance to reinjure his legs.

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    50. Berselius 50 Berselius says:

      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/and-now-the-top-20-jerseys-sold/

      *starts reading through list, nodding head*

      9. Hunter Pence, Philadelphia Phillies

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    51. Mish 51 Mish says:

      @ ACT:
      Have there been any hit in America yet?

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    52. Mish 52 Mish says:

      Nevermind, I see Hannahan and Bautista have gone yard.

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    53. josh 53 josh says:

      @ Mish:
      Or on Earth?

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    54. josh 54 josh says:

      It’s obvious there is a power outage in the National League. Teams will be scrambling to make trades.

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    55. Rizzo the Rat 55 ACT says:

      @ Mish:
      Jose Bautista hit one. So did Jack Hannahan.

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    56. Rice Cube 56 Rice Cube says:

      Wanna see if this works…

      Source: FanGraphs

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    57. Rice Cube 57 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Darn, it didn’t embed.

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    58. bubblesdachimp 58 bubblesdachimp says:

      Ian Stewart murdered that ball.

      So mad. Demps was awesome. Kerry was worse then hanie. Marmol got unlucky.

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    59. mb21 59 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Weird. I’m wondering if more Phillies jerseys have been sold overall. 3 of the top 11 are Phillies jerseys.

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    60. mb21 60 mb21 says:

      4 of the top 11. Can’t count.

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    61. Suburban kid 61 Suburban kid says:

      Well, that was a giant kick in the nuts.

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    62. josh 62 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Does that make I-Stu the WPA all-star for the day?

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    63. Suburban kid 63 Suburban kid says:

      It would be nice to have 8th and 9th inning pitchers who have control for those days when that’s all you need.

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    64. 64 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Audio of Williams telling Saints defenders to injure players by hitting their heads: http://theusof.com/

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    65. Rizzo the Rat 65 ACT says:

      Jays are making a nice comeback.

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    66. Rice Cube 66 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      I think Ian Desmond was. Dempster was the best pitcher in the game by WPA.

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    67. josh 67 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Holy Samardzija. One of the players just decided to record that at random? Or he’d heard it enough times that he was sick of it?

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    68. josh 68 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I meant of the Cubs. Going just by single plays though, Ian Stewart definitely had the biggest hit. Too bad it missed the basket.

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    69. 69 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:

      A documentary filmmaker who was given access to the team meetings to film a documentary about the NFL made the recording because he realized that even after the NFL warned the Saints to stop the bounty program in 2010, that Williams was still running it. The Saints have known all along he had the tape, but they expected he would not release it.

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    70. mb21 71 mb21 says:

      1st game and all so I doubt it means much, but Marmol’s max velocity today was 93.6. In 2010 his average fastball was 94.1. Last year it dropped to 91.8. Last year in his first appearance his max speed was similar to today, but in 2010 it was over 97.

      As I said though, I wouldn’t put any weight in these numbers. It’s one game and it’s the first one of the season. Just noticed it.

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    71. josh 72 josh says:

      I’d almost want to hear a recording of another random team’s defensive meeting, for comparison. I bet there is some talk about putting the hurt on specific guys. But the “work the head when you’re in the pile” comment was pretty shocking. I’m really glad I was a shitty athlete about now.

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    72. 73 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Sveum told Kasper that he’s not going to play double-play depth or position guys at the corners to “guard the lines” because he feels they leave to defense too vulnerable to big innings.

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    73. 74 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:
      Yeah, that and telling his guys to tear Crabtree’s ACL and to hit Gore even when he’s not on the field.

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    74. mb21 75 mb21 says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      Cubs can’t have nice things.

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    75. josh 76 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Good stuff. And the “We thought we saw in you a certain type of player” or whatever he said at the beginning.

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    76. 77 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:
      Yeah. Gregg Williams is a piece of shit.

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    77. Rizzo the Rat 78 ACT says:

      @ mb21:
      You sure about that? I remember watching his opening-day start last year and wondering why his fastball was only 90 and his slider 80 (I also remember he struck out the side and the Pirates were hitting, I think).

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    78. 79 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Kasper just used “smallball” to describe the Cubs offense. I want to stab that term.

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    79. Rice Cube 80 Rice Cube says:

      OVBlog guys, I think I posted a picture on your facebook wall but I don’t see it. Wanna check?

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    80. Mish 81 Mish says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I see it. (dying laughing)

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    81. mb21 82 mb21 says:

      @ ACT:
      Last year he had an average of 91.6 so it was down considerably from the year before. Max of 92.2.

      I don’t know what any of this means and I’m tempted to say it means absolutely nothing. Here’s the pfx game in question from 2011: http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/pfx.php?s_type=3&sp_type=1&batterX=0&year=2011&month=4&day=2&pitchSel=461791.xml&game=gid_2011_04_02_pitmlb_chnmlb_1%2f&prevGame=gid_2011_04_02_pitmlb_chnmlb_1%2f

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    82. Berselius 83 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      It looks like it’s showing up

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    83. Mish 84 Mish says:

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    84. JonKneeV 85 jtsunami says:

      mb, can you make a TOOTBLAN counter or something?

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    85. 86 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Holy shit, Charlie Hough.

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    86. josh 87 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      He’s just trying to rationalize how bad the team will be and help set expectations. He knows as well as most people that this is going to be a long season. If you can pretend sucking is a strategy, you lend some excitement to it.

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    87. Rice Cube 88 Rice Cube says:

      I will go on record as saying that I will be extremely disappointed if you do not work this into the game thread on Sunday.

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    88. 89 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      josh wrote:

      If you can pretend sucking is a strategy, you lend some excitement to it.

      (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)

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    89. Berselius 90 Berselius says:

      mb21 wrote:

      1st game and all so I doubt it means much, but Marmol’s max velocity today was 93.6. In 2010 his average fastball was 94.1. Last year it dropped to 91.8. Last year in his first appearance his max speed was similar to today, but in 2010 it was over 97.

      As I said though, I wouldn’t put any weight in these numbers. It’s one game and it’s the first one of the season. Just noticed it.

      Marmol’s throwing a 2-seamer instead of a 4-seamer this year, from the sounds of it. There was a link in a facepalm the other day that he was working on it, and I know at one point Zonk mentioned that Marmol was throwing a 2-seamer today as well.

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    90. mb21 91 mb21 says:

      @ jtsunami:
      Like this?

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    91. Rice Cube 92 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      This is nice. I also would have suggested The Count from Sesame Street.

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    92. mb21 94 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      According to pfx he threw 8 4-seamers and 7 sliders today.

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    93. Berselius 95 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      FWIW, their algorithm does a shitty job of recognizing new pitches since it does AI learning based on past history of that pitcher. I wonder what hp’s classifier gives.

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    94. mb21 96 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      According to this he hadn’t thrown one in a game before March 21st: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/print.jsp?ymd=20120321&content_id=27473030&vkey=perspectives&c_id=mlb

      I obviously don’t know, but I doubt he’s become comfortable enough with it since then to use it exclusively today. I don’t really don’t what a 2 seamer is going to accomplish anyway. He already keeps the ball in the park. Throwing more strikes would be nice, but he’ll lose some velocity too. The difference in the velocity between the fastball and slider would be smaller and presumably make it less effective.

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    95. Berselius 97 Berselius says:

      The argument for the move to the two-seamer was that it had more movement than his four-seamer

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    96. Rice Cube 98 Rice Cube says:

      Nice of the Jays and Indians to kill their bullpens in the first game of the season.

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    97. Berselius 99 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      At least they have an off-day tomorrow

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    98. mb21 100 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Aren’t 4-seamers thrown for strikes more often than 2-seamers? Maybe I’m imagining that.

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    99. 101 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      Is anyone else not able to view the TOR-CLE as the free game? They keep trying to get me to pay for their “free game of the day”

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    100. Rizzo the Rat 102 ACT says:

      @ Recalcitrant Blogger Nate:
      Works fine for me.

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    101. Rizzo the Rat 103 ACT says:

      Speaking of which, Rajai Davis is going to bed without dinner tonight.

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    102. Rice Cube 104 Rice Cube says:

      Arencibia!

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    103. Rizzo the Rat 105 ACT says:

      Sean Marshall 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K.
      Man, I wish the Cubs had a guy like this.

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