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  • It’s Jeff Samardzija Time! – Cubs Game Thread

    The 2012 Cubs are about to jump the shark.  Sending Jeff Samardzija to the mound is about as desperate an idea as when TV shows add Ted McGinley or have the Very Special Pregant Woman Gives Birth in a Stopped Elevator episode in an effort to boost ratings.

    The lineup that Sveum has constructed to stop the Cubs from going 0-3 for the first time since the 0-14 start in 1997:

    RF Kim DeJesus' husband

    2B Beardy McDFA

    SS Chosen One

    LF $19 Million Man

    3B Umm…. Ian Stewart

    1B The Hair

    CF Wyrd

    C Soto's Backup

    Just Let it Happen.

    237 Responses to “It’s Jeff Samardzija Time! – Cubs Game Thread”

    1. Rice Cube 1 Rice Cube says:

      3B Umm…. Ian Stewart

      “The Scotsman”?

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    2. Suburban kid 2 Suburban kid says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Yep. I have a patent pending. Most Scottish Name Ever.

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    3. Suburban kid 3 Suburban kid says:

      Also, MO, I want The Scotsman hitting high in the order. I want to see what the new guys got. Dewitt and Byrd can hit at the bottom for all I care. They have proved themselves mediocre in two Cub seasons.

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    4. Mish 4 Mish says:

      I think “Two First Names” could work for Stewart

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    5. 5 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Suburban kid:

      Stewart has 200 more MLB PA than DeWitt and a worse career OPS+.

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    6. 6 Mobile Rice says:

      @ Suburban kid:

      I will send you a royalty check later on.

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    7. 7 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Also, I said LaHair should be hitting higher, not Stewart. Stewart is just as shitty as DeWitt.

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    8. Rizzo the Rat 8 ACT says:

      Suburban kid wrote:

      Most Scottish Name Ever.

      What about Angus MacDonald?

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    9. Rizzo the Rat 9 ACT says:

      Or Rory Calhoun?

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    10. bubblesdachimp 10 bubblesdachimp says:

      Bubbles is mad that the knicks are winning.

      Excited for F7

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    11. 11 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Both are the product of over-reliance on small samples.

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    12. Berselius 12 Berselius says:

      Backs spasms for DeWitt, Barney playing second today

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    13. 13 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:

      Double the Transformation! No way the Cubs lose today with all that transformation on the field.

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    14. GW 14 GW says:

      rough 1st for zambrano

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    15. 16 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GW:

      It’s hard to watch what has become of him.

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    16. Suburban kid 17 Suburban kid says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      The Cubs hired him on a hunch that he will be better. Like DeJesus. Let’s give those guys and LaHair plenty of PA.

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    17. Rice Cube 18 Rice Cube says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      If they fail, #1 pick! W00t

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    18. 19 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      1.) Have hunch
      2.) Let it happen to you
      3.) ?????????
      4.) WORLD SERIES

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    19. bubblesdachimp 20 bubblesdachimp says:

      Zambrano has not been good

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    20. Rice Cube 21 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      What’s saddest of all is that most Cubs fans are cheering his recent failures.

      Whereas if you even dare speak poorly of, say, Mark DeRosa…

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    21. 22 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:

      Yeah, he’s looking pretty rough on Gameday. Missing up and spotty velocity. I miss young Z.

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    22. 23 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Who’s cheering? Is this the Cubs’ twitterverse?

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    23. Suburban kid 24 Suburban kid says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Not World Series.

      But the Cubs might as well kill DeWitt and Byrd. We know it won’t make a difference in their team performance.

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    24. Rizzo the Rat 25 ACT says:

      At least Z got a hit in his first at bat.

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    25. 26 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Suburban kid:

      Yeah. I’d rather neither of DeWitt and Stewart were on this team.

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    26. Rice Cube 27 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Facebook and random messageboards. I would avoid those if I were you.

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    27. 28 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:

      Selfish.

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    28. Rizzo the Rat 29 ACT says:

      Is there anyone in baseball who has longer at-bats than Carlos Pena?

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    29. bubblesdachimp 30 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      Yea i am watching as well.. He just doesnt have it.. I have seen 91 tops

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    30. bubblesdachimp 31 bubblesdachimp says:

      Do we have a theory of what happened to Z’s velo?

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    31. 32 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Lots of innings, age-based decline, probably a few nagging injuries.

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    32. 33 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:
      Vlad? Although he’s not playing. Youkilis has some pretty lengthy ABs, too.

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    33. 34 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Z has settled down some. His control, especially. Just doesn’t seem to have any pop to his stuff, though, at least on Gameday.

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    34. bubblesdachimp 35 bubblesdachimp says:

      Shark for Cy Young

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    35. 36 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      82 pitches through 5 for Z.

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    36. 37 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I really don’t understand why Bronson Arroyo doesn’t get fucking tattooed every time out. He is the definition of a junkballer.

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    37. 38 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      F7 keeping that H/9 at expected levels.

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    38. Rice Cube 39 Rice Cube says:

      I enjoyed that inning by the Cubs. I needed to get going soon after the game anyway (dying laughing)

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    39. 40 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      The One-Armed Bandit up next inning.

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    40. Rice Cube 41 Rice Cube says:

      Z just struck out Votto. That’s nice to see.

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    41. Rice Cube 42 Rice Cube says:

      Nice slider from F7

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    42. Rice Cube 43 Rice Cube says:

      Is the WGN gun right? Is it working? Gameday says 97-98 mph from F7!

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    43. Rice Cube 44 Rice Cube says:

      96 and 97, then a changeup. Wow.

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    44. Rice Cube 45 Rice Cube says:

      Z was a Jay Bruce homer away from a quality start.

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    45. 46 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      He’s doing a nice job of keeping that fastball in on the hands. I guess if you’re going to throw an arrow-straight 4-seamer, you better be able to keep them from pulling it.

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    46. bubblesdachimp 47 bubblesdachimp says:

      Shark is dialing up the heat

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    47. 48 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      He’s always been able to get it up there.

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    48. bubblesdachimp 49 bubblesdachimp says:

      I think the Nats will win the east…

      Bubbles has gone on record

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    49. 50 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      14 pitches through 2 innings. Way to make the pitcher work, Cubs.

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    50. Rice Cube 51 Rice Cube says:

      14 pitches through 2 IP (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)

      Cubs.

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    51. 52 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      What I’m anxious to see with F7 is the 3rd and (hopefully) 4th times through the lineup.

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    52. Rice Cube 53 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I wonder what it will be at assuming he can get to inning #7.

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    53. Rice Cube 54 Rice Cube says:

      Here comes the Miami Marlins. Trying to get Z off the hook.

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    54. 55 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      If F7 think he can chuck belt-high 4-seamers up there without penalty, he’s got another thing coming. That Ramos AB was playing with fire.

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    55. Rice Cube 56 Rice Cube says:

      Just saw Gameday say “splitter” so he’s busting out the arsenal. Might as well work on his straight fastballs against the opposing pitcher.

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    56. 57 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      F7 up in the zone to every batter this inning.

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    57. Berselius 58 Berselius says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Probably has something to do with the 10037252 pitches he’s thrown in the past decade

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    58. bubblesdachimp 59 bubblesdachimp says:

      Jeff Samardzija..

      Lets see what happens

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    59. Rice Cube 60 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I noticed that too. I hope that’s because of a method to the madness and not because of mistakes.

      He’s mixing up speeds at least so when he uncorks the 97 mph it’s somewhat unpredictable.

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    60. Rice Cube 61 Rice Cube says:

      Prepare for the auto-bunt.

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    61. Rice Cube 62 Rice Cube says:

      I think that bunt was worth 5 points on Buntfest.

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    62. 63 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      One out sac bunt. FUCKING DUMB.

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    63. Suburban kid 64 Suburban kid says:

      The bottom of the second went faster than the commercial break between innings in the NYY/TBR game.

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    64. Rice Cube 65 Rice Cube says:

      Two lineouts for DeJesus.

      Life isn’t fair.

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    65. 66 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      And just like that, out of the inning. Fucking stupid fucking bunts.

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    66. bubblesdachimp 67 bubblesdachimp says:

      Shark understood the bunt thing they tried to teach in spring training

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    67. 68 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Still up in the zone.

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    68. 69 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Nice cutter there.

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    69. 70 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Control getting spottier by the inning, but he had a 2-seamer/cutter working that inning.

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    70. Rice Cube 71 Rice Cube says:

      So…Soriano playing defense.

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    71. 72 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      All due to F7′s transformation.

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    72. 73 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Augh. Soriano just cannot lay off that slider low and away.

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    73. Rice Cube 74 Rice Cube says:

      There’s your aggressive baserunning.

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    74. Rice Cube 75 Rice Cube says:

      Run manufactured!

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    75. 76 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Much more effective than the auto-bunt.

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    76. bubblesdachimp 77 bubblesdachimp says:

      Three steals for Starlin. Nice

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    77. WaLi 78 WaLi says:

      Agression = win

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    78. bubblesdachimp 79 bubblesdachimp says:

      F7: It might just work

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    79. Rice Cube 80 Rice Cube says:

      Watching the replay of Soriano’s grab. Matt Garza loves it (dying laughing)

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    80. 81 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      He’s jammed quite a few Nat hitters today.

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    81. Rice Cube 82 Rice Cube says:

      Yeah…he’s playing with fire with those offerings.

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    82. Rice Cube 83 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      He needs to make sure it stays on the hands, if it’s a little off that ball is launched.

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    83. bubblesdachimp 84 bubblesdachimp says:

      Who is this guy pitching for the Cubs

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    84. Rice Cube 85 Rice Cube says:

      Is it me or is Byrd taking some goofy routes? I didn’t hear how the wind was at Wrigley so that might be why.

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    85. Suburban kid 86 Suburban kid says:

      ACE

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    86. 88 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Yeah, he’s walking a pretty fine line with his fastball. Reminds me of Z, really. If he loses the handle on that thing just a bit, it’s all going to go pear-shaped.

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    87. 89 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Prob wind and sun.

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    88. WaLi 90 WaLi says:

      Samardzija with 53 pitches, 38 strikes

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    89. Rice Cube 91 Rice Cube says:

      @ WaLi:
      NO WALKS

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    90. WaLi 92 WaLi says:

      And Cubs swinging away on the 1st pitch (dying laughing)

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    91. Rice Cube 93 Rice Cube says:

      Why won’t these liners go out?! *whine whine*

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    92. 94 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Two pitches, two outs. Cubs. (dying laughing)

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    93. WaLi 95 WaLi says:

      7 pitches for 4 batters (dying laughing). Samardzija with the most balls seen @ 4.

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    94. 96 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      I’m sure we can expect that to continue. (dying laughing)

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    95. Suburban kid 97 Suburban kid says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Winds blowing in and the sun looks like a main bitch.

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    96. 98 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      The undue adulation of F7 is about to reach critical mass. We should all get hold of a shovel.

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    97. bubblesdachimp 99 bubblesdachimp says:

      Hmmm Cubs dont like to work the count

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    98. Rice Cube 100 Rice Cube says:

      Ah, there’s that batting practice fastball.

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    99. Suburban kid 101 Suburban kid says:

      Niese no hitter over but there’s another one in Baltimore.

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    100. Rice Cube 102 Rice Cube says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      False.

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    101. bubblesdachimp 103 bubblesdachimp says:

      Ian Desmond has had a great opening series

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    102. Mish 104 Mish says:

      Pena went dong today and nearly had another one, fan interference double. That’s two this weekend. (dying laughing)

      Once this Bulls game is done I can see how Captain Morgan is doing out there.

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    103. 105 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Gameday has gone the way of F7′s control.

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    104. Rice Cube 106 Rice Cube says:

      I have to say that aside from the playing with fire, Samardzija is taking full advantage of this opportunity.

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    105. bubblesdachimp 107 bubblesdachimp says:

      Solid start by Shark. never thought i would see a quality start

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    106. Suburban kid 108 Suburban kid says:

      F7 shutting everyone up.

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    107. WaLi 109 WaLi says:

      Oosthuizen (who?) hit an albatross in the sexist Master’s tournament to take the lead. An albatross is rarer than a hole in one. Pretty crazy.

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    108. 110 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      Yeah, he really has. But there’s as much cause for concern as there is for optimism, IMO, on the strength of this start.

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    109. 111 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      Yeah, one start really proves a point.

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    110. 112 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      It would nice if the offense could pick up F7 here.

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    111. Rice Cube 113 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      The location made me shudder a bit but this may be a function of the game plan, which was to punish the inside part of the plate and keep jamming people. He’s not going to throw 1-run ball all the time.

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    112. WaLi 114 WaLi says:

      So over under for Cubs as a team HR this season… 50? Is that too high? Do you think the league HR leader will have more than the Cubs total?

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    113. Rice Cube 115 Rice Cube says:

      Soriano found the hole…

      …and that’s what she said.

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    114. 116 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ WaLi:

      It’s certainly possible. Not much pop in this lineup.

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    115. 117 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Soriano with both RBI today.

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    116. Suburban kid 118 Suburban kid says:

      Sori woo

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    117. bubblesdachimp 119 bubblesdachimp says:

      Fucking bulls

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    118. 120 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      3rd time though the heart of the order. Interested to see what and how F7 does.

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    119. WaLi 121 WaLi says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      If I were Sveum, I’d tell Samardzija that he is pitching so good we have to cut you short.

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    120. Suburban kid 122 Suburban kid says:

      Mercurial Outfielder wrote:

      3rd time though the heart of the order. Interested to see Fan Cam boobs.

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    121. Rice Cube 123 Rice Cube says:

      Slider strike. Bones.

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    122. 124 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Bailed out there.

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    123. Rice Cube 125 Rice Cube says:

      There’s a defensive play.

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    124. Suburban kid 126 Suburban kid says:

      No walks?

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    125. Rice Cube 127 Rice Cube says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      Nay, m’lord.

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    126. WaLi 128 WaLi says:

      @ WaLi:

      Shut me right up.

      Moreland can not sing.

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    127. bubblesdachimp 129 bubblesdachimp says:

      Samardzija…

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    128. Rizzo the Rat 130 ACT says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Why did Werth slide?

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    129. 131 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Suburban kid:

      Nope. When he’s missed, he’s missed up in the zone, for the most part. Been no need for the Nats to take pitches.

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    130. Rice Cube 132 Rice Cube says:

      @ ACT:
      Grindy.

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    131. 133 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      This has been a pretty well-pitched game on both sides, actually.

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    132. bubblesdachimp 134 bubblesdachimp says:

      I gotta say quite a few pitches have had high nasty factors on gameday

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    133. Rice Cube 135 Rice Cube says:

      F7 still throwing 95-96 in the 7th.

      Nice to see LaHair finally work a full count.

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    134. bubblesdachimp 136 bubblesdachimp says:

      Bubbles got Keith to play along

      keithlaw ‏ @keithlaw Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
      Yep. Better command down than when I saw him two weeks ago. “@jonf1220: @keithlaw You watching Samardzija by any chance?”

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    135. Suburban kid 137 Suburban kid says:

      Great play by Stewart.

      Congrats to F7 on making it through 7 for the first time.

      Let’s remember the heart of the nats lineup includes xavier nady.

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    136. Rice Cube 138 Rice Cube says:

      Byrd did not learn from Buntfest.

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    137. 139 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Two doubles for LaHair today. Good to see.

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    138. 140 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Marlon Byrd really hates taking pitches.

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    139. 141 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      WHY THE FUCK IS BYRD BUNTING? Fucking Sveum and his by the book bullshit.

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    140. Rice Cube 142 Rice Cube says:

      F7 for the 8th! Better get that bullpen working fast.

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    141. bubblesdachimp 143 bubblesdachimp says:

      Bulls make me so mad… But at least the knicks can be added to the list

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    142. Mish 144 Mish says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      We play them again Tuesday. I think the Bulls will come out and annihilate them.

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    143. Rice Cube 145 Rice Cube says:

      Chad Tracy, Cub killer?

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    144. 146 DamageControlFreak says:

      Why is da Shark still pitching?
      80 pitches should be more than fine for his first big league outing ever (kinda) and his spot in the bottom of the 7th would have been perfect tfor a pinch hitter.

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    145. Rice Cube 147 Rice Cube says:

      Cheers!

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    146. 148 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      F7 is about to find what the pressure of irrational expectations from the Cubs’ fanbase feels like.

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    147. bubblesdachimp 149 bubblesdachimp says:

      Fuck it let Shark finish it

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    148. bubblesdachimp 150 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mish:

      I mean we were up ten with 3:01 to go. We score 1 point game over

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    149. 151 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Might as well ride the streak while it lasts.

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    150. bubblesdachimp 152 bubblesdachimp says:

      keithlaw ‏ @keithlaw Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
      I don’t know, stuff looked pretty electric to me. “@caryatid62: @keithlaw Jeff Samardzija #smallsamplesizealert”

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    151. Rice Cube 153 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      It’s just the way it is.

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    152. Mish 154 Mish says:

      bubblesdachimp wrote:

      4 missed FTs and a bunch of missed rebounds. Derrick got his pocket picked all day.

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    153. 155 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Confirmation bias is utterly fascinating to me.

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    154. Suburban kid 156 Suburban kid says:

      (dying laughing) at Gary pressy “I walk the line”

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    155. Rice Cube 157 Rice Cube says:

      Grindy catch by Nady.

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    156. bubblesdachimp 158 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mish:

      Yea it was piss poor effort all the way around

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    157. Rice Cube 159 Rice Cube says:

      Nice hit by Castro. If Nady hadn’t made the grindy catch, they might’ve had more.

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    158. bubblesdachimp 160 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mish:

      Yea it was piss poor effort all the way around

      CASTRO!!!!

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    159. Rice Cube 161 Rice Cube says:

      SAFE?! WOW!

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    160. 162 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Starlin Henderson.

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    161. Rice Cube 163 Rice Cube says:

      Better throw and catch and it’d be closer…game of inches.

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    162. 164 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      4 more runs and the lead will be bullpen proofed.

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    163. 165 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      5 straight sinkers to LaHair. Stares at 4, whiffs at one. Ugh.

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    164. 166 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Marlon will not be cheated.

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    165. Rice Cube 167 Rice Cube says:

      3-run cushion, throw all strikes?

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    166. Suburban kid 168 Suburban kid says:

      95MPH in the 9th

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    167. Rice Cube 169 Rice Cube says:

      96! 97!

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    168. 170 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      F7 is really putting that fastball in hittable places.

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    169. bubblesdachimp 171 bubblesdachimp says:

      97 in the 9th…

      Who is this guy?

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    170. 172 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Nice fucking pitch.

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    171. Rice Cube 173 Rice Cube says:

      Nice call, Eddings.

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    172. 174 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Nice snag, awful throw.

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    173. Mish 175 Mish says:

      Ew.

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    174. Rice Cube 176 Rice Cube says:

      ERROR

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    175. bubblesdachimp 177 bubblesdachimp says:

      Fucking castro.

      (dying laughing)

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    176. bubblesdachimp 178 bubblesdachimp says:

      I assume this is his last batter.

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    177. Rice Cube 179 Rice Cube says:

      Whoops.

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    178. Rice Cube 180 Rice Cube says:

      Almost got there…

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    179. 181 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Well, you keep bombing 4-seamers down the middle of the plate, you’re going to pay. He’s been playing a dangerous game all day long.

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    180. Rizzo the Rat 182 ACT says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      If only Pena were there to scoop that.

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    181. bubblesdachimp 183 bubblesdachimp says:

      Fuck that. Feel bad for shark. Pitched his ass off. Should have got to finish

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    182. Rice Cube 184 Rice Cube says:

      97 mph, but it was well within the happy zone.

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    183. 185 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      The fun part is, everyone will blame the homer on Castro and ignore the fact that F7 has been daring people to hit that 4-seamer all day.

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    184. josh 186 josh says:

      LaHair is no Derrek Lee at first.

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    185. Rice Cube 187 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Nah, they’ll blame Marmol instead.

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    186. 188 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Gameday had it dead down the middle. Belt-high, heart of the plate. You throw that pitch to a guy like LaRoche, you deserve the results.

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    187. 189 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I don’t know if Lee or Pena save the throw. That was a terrible throw Castro uncorked.

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    188. Rizzo the Rat 190 ACT says:

      null

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    189. bubblesdachimp 191 bubblesdachimp says:

      Good fucking god…

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    190. Rizzo the Rat 192 ACT says:

      Marmol got a swinging strike! His first this year!

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    191. 193 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Marmol getting the slider across for strikes today.

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    192. Rizzo the Rat 194 ACT says:

      Marmol with the one-out save! And he only walked 1 batter!

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    193. Rice Cube 195 Rice Cube says:

      Awesome.

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    194. bubblesdachimp 196 bubblesdachimp says:

      What an outing by shark. Based on the impression of twitter his shit was that good. I got blacked out

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    195. 197 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Well, that outing from F7 is puzzling. He located his 2-seamer superbly and had a nice changeup early, but he was playing with fire with the 4-seamer and didn’t seem to have any special command of his breaking pitches. Lots and lots of fastballs.

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    196. 198 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      If he doesn’t keep that fastball down when the weather warms and the wind shifts, he’s going to be in trouble.

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    197. 199 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      This start reminds me of the first time F7 came up. We all oohed and aahed at the electric stuff and the 95+ fastballs…and then he pitched a few more times.

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    198. Rizzo the Rat 200 ACT says:

      The Cubs have the same record as the Phillies and a better record than the Yankees or Red Sox.

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    199. 201 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:
      Transformation!

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    200. mb21 202 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Wish I could have seen his start today. Looks pretty damn impressive on paper.

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    201. bubblesdachimp 203 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      You could be very correct MO. I just saw a lot of the nasty factors and the looked good. Slider looked solid and he didnt walk anyone. I will take all the positives i can. Not to mention Ketih and Kevin were pretty impressed

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    202. bubblesdachimp 204 bubblesdachimp says:

      Cubs starting pitching might be sneaky good

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    203. 205 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      He pitched well, got helped by good defense from Soriano and Stewart. Made the most of his chance, for sure. He threw a lot of fastballs, and after the 3rd innings, he was putting a lot of them up and over the plate. He was able to keep them off the fastball with his change for a while, then with his slider for a bit, but his most consistent pitch in terms of location was probably the cutter/2-seamer he was throwing.

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    204. 206 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:

      I’m not sure nasty factor is really indicative of anything inherently positive.

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    205. GBTS 207 GBTS says:

      Dear OV,

      How my ass taste?

      Sincerely,

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    206. bubblesdachimp 208 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I think it judges how likely a pitch is to be successful. Obviously not the be all end all but still a good metric

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    207. mb21 210 mb21 says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      I don’t know how good a metric it is. This is from Mike Fast last year:

      Here’s what I found about the average Nasty Factor for the various results of pitches when I checked earlier this year:

      NF Result
      42 In play, out
      41 In play, run/no out
      41 Swinging strike
      40 Called strike
      40 Foul
      38 Ball

      So a ball in play and an out is the highest, but a swinging strike is less and a called strike is less than that.

      Perhaps at the extremes it tells us something. I don’t know. I’ve never paid a lick of attention to it so I don’t know and I don’t care, but based on the average here I’m not sure it tells us anything.

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    208. mb21 211 mb21 says:

      the thing I like most about F7′s outing is the percentage of strikes. That’s a good sign. Still just one start, but at least we have something at the MLB level as a starter to start discussing.

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    209. 212 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GBTS:

      It tastes like confirmation bias with a bit of sample size and a dash of Thenatshaveareallyshittyoffense.

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    210. 213 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      Yeah, he was bombarding the strike zone today. That’s probably the best indication we have of his alleged improvement.

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    211. 214 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      No, there’s a bunch of other shit thrown in. From MLB:

      The Nasty Factor evaluates several properties of each pitch, and rates the “nastiness” of the pitch on a scale from 0-100, based in part on the success or failure of opposing hitters against previous similar pitches. The Nasty Factor incorporates several different factors for each pitch, including:
      Velocity — The greater the pitch’s velocity — as compared to that pitcher’s and the league’s range of speed for that pitch type — the greater the nastiness;
      Sequence — The more the pitcher mixes up his pitches, the greater the nastiness… and certain pitch sequences are nastier than others, too;
      Location — The closer to the edges of the strike zone is, the greater the nastiness, while pitches closer to the middle of the plate, and farther away outside the strike zone, decrease in nastiness;
      Movement — The more movement the pitcher applies to the pitch — as compared to that pitcher’s and the league’s range of movement for that pitch type — the greater the nastiness.
      The Nasty Factor also adjusts for how often the pitcher has faced the current batter during the game, as well as how often he has used the same pitch type against the same batter in the current at-bat and previously in the game.

      There’s so much noise in that number, I doubt it’s useful for much at all. Basically, it tells what we could already see: the pitcher is pitching with movement.

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    212. mb21 216 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Based on Mike’s research I think it’s clear the result weighs heavily. An out is more important than anything. A swinging strike or even a guy caught off guard with a pitch taken for a called strike are less than balls put in play that are turned into outs. This tells me that it doesn’t have much value. Like I said, there could be value at the extremes, but I doubt it.

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    213. 218 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:

      Is he still cost-controlled?

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    214. Rizzo the Rat 219 ACT says:

      Nasty Factor sounds like an interesting idea in theory, but exceedingly difficult to pull off in practice.

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    215. 220 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GW:
      Ned Yost, 2008 Cubs MVP.

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    216. Rizzo the Rat 221 ACT says:

      I see Aramis is off to one of his patented slow starts.

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    217. bubblesdachimp 222 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I agree with yall 100% It is not the end all be all. I think it gives a rough estimate of would you want a batter to have to make good contact. Like i think i saw a marmiol slider get up to about a 98 last year.

      Just another tool to combine with the other ones to give us a more accurate impression of what we are seeing

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    218. bubblesdachimp 223 bubblesdachimp says:

      Wow Tigers

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    219. Rizzo the Rat 224 ACT says:

      Wow Avila just hit a walkoff HR to complete a 3-run comeback for Detroit in the bottom of the 11th.

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    220. Rizzo the Rat 225 ACT says:

      Also, the Sox and Yanks are both 3 games behind the Orioles now.

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    221. Berselius 226 Berselius says:

      @ ACT:
      Dear Larty Lucchino,

      Suck it.

      No love,
      Karma

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    222. Rice Cube 227 Rice Cube says:

      @ ACT:
      Someone divided by zero.

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    223. GW 228 GW says:

      astros are over .500 for the first time since 2009

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    224. bubblesdachimp 229 bubblesdachimp says:

      Red Sox gonna suck this year. They cant pitch

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    225. mb21 230 mb21 says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Didn’t the Red Sox get off to something like a 2-9 start last year and then were in first place not long after? We’re 3 games in. Other than knowing the Cubs have won 1 and lost 2, I don’t have the foggiest damn clue what the record of another team is (other than the Nationals).

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    226. mb21 231 mb21 says:

      Boston was 2-10 last year.

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    227. Rice Cube 234 Rice Cube says:

      Looks like Cashner is doing alright in his couple innings of work.

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    228. Rice Cube 236 Rice Cube says:

      http://muskat.mlblogs.com/2012/04/08/48-ramirez-braun-headed-to-wrigley/

      I will be at the game tomorrow night and I hope that I can sneak down far enough to snag an autograph. The boo-birds should be ashamed of themselves, but probably won’t be.

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