I have a sneaky suspicion Davis doesn’t have the equivalent of a slingshot and smooth stones to fell the Philliestines, but that’s why they play the game. Amiright?
Mostly, we just needed a new thread.
Davis vs. Goliath
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Cubs will not be shut out today.
Ramirez!
Now we see how soon Davis will give it all back.
(dying laughing) at the title of the thread
Lots of great PAs against Oswalt in the top of the inning. Odd that it was Pena who popped out on the first pitch, since he’s usually so patient
Great read by Victorino.
[quote name=Berselius]Lots of great PAs against Oswalt in the top of the inning. Odd that it was Pena who popped out on the first pitch, since he’s usually so patient[/quote]Brenly was right though. He just missed that pitch. A quarter of an inch and that ball was sent 500 feet.
[quote name=mb21]Brenly was right though. He just missed that pitch. A quarter of an inch and that ball was sent 500 feet.[/quote]
Needed more on the x-coordinate there.
Doug Davis having control issues.
Lucky…………
Anyone know what’s going on with Brett Jackson? He’s like the only thing I look forward to this season.
(dying laughing) at Len completely misreading Davis ‘hustling’
[quote name=Berselius](dying laughing) at Len completely misreading Davis ‘hustling’[/quote]
I’m pretty sure he was being sarcastic (dying laughing)
[quote name=Steve Swisher]Anyone know what’s going on with Brett Jackson? He’s like the only thing I look forward to this season.[/quote]
He sat for three straight games before playing again last night, no idea why.
My sarcasm detector was off (dying laughing)
[quote name=Steve Swisher]Anyone know what’s going on with Brett Jackson? He’s like the only thing I look forward to this season.[/quote]Injuries and he hasn’t started to hit since coming back.
I really hope that Doug Davis does not start in Kansas City. There’s a good chance he’ll pitch one of those games and it’s going to piss me off. He’s the most boring player ever.
[quote name=mb21]I really hope that Doug Davis does not start in Kansas City. There’s a good chance he’ll pitch one of those games and it’s going to piss me off. He’s the most boring player ever.[/quote]
It might be nice to be able to take a nap between pitches though.
Ryan Howard does not believe in platoon splits.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Ryan Howard does not believe in platoon splits.[/quote]
Platoon splits kind of go out the window when a shitty pitcher like Doug Davis is involved.
I’m just glad Moustakas and Hosmer are up with the Royals. It’s going to be fun to watch those two play.
[quote name=Aisle424]Platoon splits kind of go out the window when a shitty pitcher like Doug Davis is involved.[/quote]
Correct.
[quote name=mb21]I really hope that Doug Davis does not start in Kansas City. There’s a good chance he’ll pitch one of those games and it’s going to piss me off. He’s the most boring player ever.[/quote]
The Royals will sign Trachsel as an emergency starter for that game just to piss you off (dying laughing)
[quote name=Berselius]The Royals will sign Trachsel as an emergency starter for that game just to piss you off (dying laughing)[/quote]I’m going to all 3 games so there’s a 60% chance Davis starts in that series.
If the Cubs stay on schedule, it should be Dempster, Wells and Zambrano that series. Nice. I’d rather see Garza than Wells, but at least it’s not Davis. Davis will be pitching the game before the series opens vs the Royals.
Bob Brenly just told the human element to go to hell.
(dying laughing) at Bob Brenly going off on the human element. I’m in total agreement.
[quote name=AndCounting](dying laughing) at Bob Brenly going off on the human element. I’m in total agreement.[/quote]
I can’t argue with Bob today.
(dying laughing) it’s an odd day when we’re all in agreement with bob Brenly.
I’m fairly certain we can’t expect anything better from Doug Davis than what we got today.
BJax just got a hit to tie the game for the Smokies.
[quote name=Aisle424]I’m fairly certain we can’t expect anything better from Doug Davis than what we got today.[/quote]
108 pitches! But I think Q runs him out again to start the 6th because he has to.
[quote name=Aisle424]I’m fairly certain we can’t expect anything better from the Cubs than what we got today.[/quote].
[quote name=Rice Cube]108 pitches! But I think Q runs him out again to start the 6th because he has to.[/quote]He probably would have if the pitcher’s spot didn’t come up that inning.
Liriano perfect game thru 6. only 64 pitches.
Nope…Samardzija in.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Nope…Samardzija in.[/quote]
He must have cut Davis short because he loved it.
Jay Jackson getting his ass kicked in Iowa.
Nice barehand play by that fan in foul territory.
Cubs minor league day at Wrigley Field (dying laughing)
In Iowa, Marquez Smith just got picked off first base…with the bases loaded. How does that happen?
Cubs lose…
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Scott Maine just gave up a grand slam to get his pitching coach ejected. Then he hit the next batter and got himself ejected.
Good to see Lespellcheck getting onto the field to watch Soto bat instead of from the dugout.
Geovany Soto would’ve won the game if this were cricket.
Cubs —-> #2 pick. Two games back of Houston for #1 pick.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Cubs —-> #2 pick. Two games back of Houston for #1 pick.[/quote]They can do it! I believe in them!
This is the year!
Oh goodie gumdrops.
[quote name=ACT]This is the year![/quote]
It’s gonna happen!
Cubs fall to under .500 under our new banner. That magic didn’t last long.
[quote name=Aisle424]Cubs fall to under .500 under our new banner. That magic didn’t last long.[/quote]
The trek to .444 has been stalled.
[quote name=Rice Cube]The trek to .444 has been stalled.[/quote]
That turns out to have been blind optimism.
[quote name=Aisle424]That turns out to have been blind optimism.[/quote]Yeah, it’s more like the trek to .396.
Shit. .396 might be optimistic too. They’re already at .391. Trek to .379.
I’m still (dying laughing) at the headline of this post.
[quote name=ACT]This is the year
The Royals are killing the Angels right now. I know the pitching has been suspect but the offensive stars seem to be real deals. You might see a sweep in KC, mb (dying laughing)
Cubs suck.
[quote name=Rice Cube]The Royals are killing the Angels right now. I know the pitching has been suspect but the offensive stars seem to be real deals. You might see a sweep in KC, mb (dying laughing)[/quote]I’m OK with that. I’m a Royals fan, too. I’m excited to see some of their young players and can’t wait for more to come up.
[quote name=Suburban kid]Cubs suck.[/quote]Has Al confirmed this yet?
[quote name=mb21]I’m OK with that. I’m a Royals fan, too. I’m excited to see some of their young players and can’t wait for more to come up.[/quote]
It seems they’re more position-player heavy and not too good on the pitching. Are the pitchers just kind of lurking in the wings?
[quote name=GBTS]So, the Cardinals get the Rays, Orioles, and Blue Jays in interleague play. The Brewers get the Rays, Yankees, and Red Sox.
That makes sense.[/quote]
Yes, it is just freaking stupid. I hope the rumored two 15 team leagues helps get that straightened out. I also hope they kill the home field for world series in the all star game. Bud Fucking Idiot Selig.
Gift inside-the-park-homer:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15836695&tcid=fb_TB_15836695&c_id=tb
[quote name=Rice Cube]It seems they’re more position-player heavy and not too good on the pitching. Are the pitchers just kind of lurking in the wings?[/quote]5 of their top 10 were pitchers. They’re heavy on left-handed starters. 4 of the 9 they had in the top 100 were pitchers. The top rated pitchers heading into this season for the Royals were John Lamb, Mike Montgomery, Danny Duffy, Chris Dwyer, and Aaron Crow. All are lefties except Crow.
[quote name=Bubba Biscuit]Yes, it is just freaking stupid. I hope the rumored two 15 team leagues helps get that straightened out. I also hope they kill the home field for world series in the all star game. Bud Fucking Idiot Selig.[/quote]I’m not sure how it would wok out with two 15-team leagues though. I’m not a huge fan of interleague play and would hate to have that going on all season long. One of the leagues will have to be 16 teams. If I was in charge I’d do away with interleague play.
[quote name=mb21]5 of their top 10 were pitchers. They’re heavy on left-handed starters. 4 of the 9 they had in the top 100 were pitchers. The top rated pitchers heading into this season for the Royals were John Lamb, Mike Montgomery, Danny Duffy, Chris Dwyer, and Aaron Crow. All are lefties except Crow.[/quote]
And the best might be the guy they got in the Greinke trade, Jake Odorizzi who is a righty. They have about 7 guys that look to be #2 or #3 starters in the majors. Duffy likely the only one that shows up to KC this season. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-30-prospects-the-kansas-city-royals/
Duffy already made his big league debut. 5 starts: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3542&position=P
Odorizzi is off to a ridiculous start in High A. over 12 K per 9. 79 strikeouts, 14 walks, 57.2 innings. (dying laughing)
KC will definitely be a very fun team to watch here soon. The Tampa Bay Rays of the mid-2010′s with the advantage of not being in the AL East.
[quote name=mb21]Duffy already made his big league debut. 5 starts: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3542&position=P
Odorizzi is off to a ridiculous start in High A. over 12 K per 9. 79 strikeouts, 14 walks, 57.2 innings. (dying laughing)[/quote]
Yes, Duffy is here and will likely hang around and take the rookie bumps this season, but will probably be the only young promising starter KC calls up this year.
Yeah, if they spend a little money after they get good like the Rays did, they could run off multiple division championships and be a force in the playoffs. I can’t wait.
Did they send Duffy down already?
What’s wrong with interleague play? I’m assuming the unbalanced schedule doesn’t help much, but I kind of like the thought of playing teams that you normally don’t play.
[quote name=mb21]Did they send Duffy down already?[/quote]
don’t think so. he’s been having some control issues though.
[quote name=mb21]Did they send Duffy down already?[/quote]
No, sorry for being confusing. Duffy is in KC and will stay. No other pitcher is getting called up this year for KC that would be a prospect, maybe in a James Russel spot start situation, but not a top 10 prospect.
[quote name=Rice Cube]What’s wrong with interleague play? I’m assuming the unbalanced schedule doesn’t help much, but I kind of like the thought of playing teams that you normally don’t play.[/quote]Take the Cardinals and Brewers this season. Brewers just took over 1st place, but they play the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox along with home and home against the suddenly hot Twins. The Cardinals play home and home against the Royals, Blue Jays, Orioles and Rays.
[quote name=mb21]Take the Cardinals and Brewers this season. Brewers just took over 1st place, but they play the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox along with home and home against the suddenly hot Twins. The Cardinals play home and home against the Royals, Blue Jays, Orioles and Rays.[/quote]
Understandable. I think if they do the one interleague series per trip though, there are ways to balance it out better. Cramming interleague into one month makes it hard to achieve balance.
[quote name=mb21]Take the Cardinals and Brewers this season. Brewers just took over 1st place, but they play the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox along with home and home against the suddenly hot Twins. The Cardinals play home and home against the Royals, Blue Jays, Orioles and Rays.[/quote]
100% agree here, it either needs to be scrapped (highly unlikely) or fixed to be more balanced.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Understandable. I think if they do the one interleague series per trip though, there are ways to balance it out better. Cramming interleague into one month makes it hard to achieve balance.[/quote]
I meant if they just had interleague as a full-season thing, not just crammed into one month.
Let’s say you two 3-game series each week in interleague play, which would be required with 15-team leagues. In ll reality, it’s probably an average of about 6.25 games per week, but we’ll use 6. The MLB season is 26 weeks long. That’s 156 interleague games, which is actually fewer than there are now so I’m all for it.
[quote name=mb21]Has Al confirmed this yet?[/quote]
Al is too busy asking rhetorical questions.
In other news, I see Sully is opining that the fans are going to let Quade and the team have it tomorrow night. That seems unlikely, as there would have to be people in the ballpark for that to happen.
Also, Derek Jeter is going to get his 3000th hit on Friday.
/salt into wound
4 other teams in division x 12 games each (6 home, 6 away) = 48 Games
10 teams in league, not in division x 6 Games each (3H / 3A) = 60 Games
15 teams in the other league x 3 games each = 45 Games
(alternate home / away each season) i.e. Cubs go to Boston this year for 3 games, Boston come to Cubs next year for 3
1 Interleague rival that you always have a home and away series with each year adds 3 games
Total of 156 Games
[quote name=shadasrevenge]Al is too busy asking rhetorical questions.
In other news, I see Sully is opining that the fans are going to let Quade and the team have it tomorrow night. That seems unlikely, as there would have to be people in the ballpark for that to happen.[/quote](dying laughing) not only that, the people in attendance would have to care and I’ve not seen the Cubs fan base care less than they do this year.
[quote name=mb21](dying laughing) not only that, the people in attendance would have to care and I’ve not seen the Cubs fan base care less than they do this year.[/quote]
If we think the crowds are bad now, wait until September when vacations end and school starts up again. There won’t be 10,000 in the stands.
Apathy is the worst thing that could happen for the Cubs right now
[quote name=shadasrevenge]Also, Derek Jeter is going to get his 3000th hit on Friday.
/salt into wound[/quote]
I’m hoping he does as I’m going to the game and it will make the Cubs getting their asses kicked interesting.
It’s going to be like the mid 90s. I’m sure 424 can talk more about it, but I remember going to some a few weekend series in the early to mid 90s in September and there was nobody there.
I really do wonder what actually attendance is so far. Paid attendance is about 34,000 per game, but I doubt actual attendance is 25,000 per game. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s closer to 20,000.
I think the Yankees could get 3000 hits in that series alone. (dying laughing)
If they went to 15 teams in both leagues then they should either do away with DH or institute it in both leagues. NL teams would have to start carrying a DH player on their roster regardless because they would be at a very big offensive disadvantage.
[quote name=melissa]I’m hoping he does as I’m going to the game and it will make the Cubs getting their asses kicked interesting.[/quote]
He got his first grand slam against the Cubs (off of Borowski in 2006), so it only makes sense that he gets 3000.
[quote name=melissa]If they went to 15 teams in both leagues then they should either do away with DH or institute it in both leagues. NL team would have to start carrying a DH player on their roster regardless because they would be at a very big offensive disadvantage.[/quote]
I have heard before the player’s union wants the DH in each league, so that could happen. No way they get rid of it in both leagues.
[quote name=Bubba Biscuit]I have heard before the player’s union wants the DH in each league, so that could happen. No way they get rid of it in both leagues.[/quote]
Yeah, I don’t believe there is any way the players let the DH go but there has been talk that it would remain the way it is now.
Bubbles gamecocks=====>> Back to Omaha
I live in central IL. My neighbor I guess has a family trip every year to a Cubs game. this year they messed up the schedule (or that’s the story) so they are stuck with 8 tickets for this weeks Cubs/Brewers game on Tuesday. They asked me if I wanted to go.. Face value 70$. I feel bad for them (dying laughing)
So what is Al’s argument against Mark Cuban going to be now?
Dallas —-> winning
[quote name=mb21]So what is Al’s argument against Mark Cuban going to be now?[/quote]
Was there an argument against Mark Cuban before? I must have missed that.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Was there an argument against Mark Cuban before? I must have missed that.[/quote]
the argument being cuban has never won
What is with the timeout? That seems classless
[quote name=mb21]So what is Al’s argument against Mark Cuban going to be now?[/quote]
Sports history has ended thus no NBA title for Cuban. Done deal. Sealed.
Didn’t think I would see this happen this year:
M Tejada intentionally walked.
Mark Cuban is now going to have a new wardrobe.
16 Different styles and colors of T-Shirts saying 2010-2011 NBA Champs Dallas Mavericks.
Not that I blame him one bit.
[quote name=Bubba Biscuit]Mark Cuban is now going to have a new wardrobe.
16 Different styles and colors of T-Shirts saying 2010-2011 NBA Champs Dallas Mavericks.
Not that I blame him one bit.[/quote]
He can afford it.
Not only did Cuban just win a championship, he did it with complete class. It’s almost as if he actually reads Yellon.
[quote name=mb21]So what is Al’s argument against Mark Cuban going to be now?[/quote]
Cuban hasn’t won a championship in a sport where black people shouldn’t be in the hall of fame.
[quote name=Silky Johnson]Cuban hasn’t won a championship in a sport where black people shouldn’t be in the hall of fame.[/quote]
Water Polo???
[quote name=Rice Cube]Dallas —-> winning[/quote]
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Texas =====>> Back to Omaha[/quote]
Interleage play also gets unbalanced due to the local rivalries, Cubs/Sox, etc. I could live without it too.
http://didtheheatcrylastnight.com/
(dying laughing)
Wow, they are little bitches over there. Who can’t man up and say “I was wrong. Cuban is obviously a winner now”
[quote name=Alvin]Owning, and making a winner out of an NBA team, is a very different thing than making a winner out of a MLB team.
by Al Yellon on Jun 13, 2011 6:57 AM CDT reply[/quote]
This was obviously going to be his opinion. Can’t give credit to Cuban so say apples and oranges. Cuban can’t win b/c he hasn’t won a World Series. (dying laughing). Even then Alvin would uncut his win.
[quote name=Silky Johnson]This was obviously going to be his opinion. Can’t give credit to Cuban so say apples and oranges. Cuban can’t win b/c he hasn’t won a World Series. (dying laughing). Even then Alvin would uncut his win.[/quote](dying laughing), it’s funny that for most people this was exactly the response they expected from Yellon.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/6/12/2219207/2011-mlb-draft-chicago-cubs-review
[quote name=Jame Gumb](dying laughing)[/quote]Wait, how can something be both irrelevant and non-existent?
If it happened, but is not germane to the matter(s) at hand, then it is irrelevant.
But if it “didn’t happen,” then it just didn’t happen. There has to be an event for it have been irrelevant. So either Cuban won a championship, and Al’s former complaint against him is now moot, or Al thinks Cuban didn’t win a championship, and is therefore a delusional person with a wicked Napoleon complex.
[quote name=WaLi]Wow, they are little bitches over there. Who can’t man up and say “I was wrong. Cuban is obviously a winner now”[/quote]
This is not directed at you…
Because winning a title doesn’t change anything about Cuban’s ability as an owner. Using Alvin’s pea-brained logic, Cuban was a great owner at 9:45 pm yesterday, but not at 9:30 pm yesterday.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Wait, how can something be both irrelevant and non-existent?
If it happened, but is not germane to the matter(s) at hand, then it is irrelevant.
But if it “didn’t happen,” then it just didn’t happen. There has to be an event for it have been irrelevant. So either Cuban won a championship, and Al’s former complaint against him is now moot, or Al thinks Cuban didn’t win a championship, and is therefore a delusional person with a wicked Napoleon complex.[/quote]
A: Alvin is a faget that shouldn’t have happened.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]This is not directed at you…
Because winning a title doesn’t change anything about Cuban’s ability as an owner. Using Alvin’s pea-brained logic, Cuban was a great owner at 9:45 pm yesterday, but not at 9:30 pm yesterday.[/quote]
But he isn’t even saying that, is he? Isn’t he is still in denial that Cuban isn’t a good owner? ( If he is using that logic and his argument before was that Cuban never won therefore would be an awful owner in the MLB and his team would never win a game going 0-162 for 5 seasons straight, then shouldn’t Cuban winning mean he is a winner?
My head hurts.
[quote name=WaLi]But he isn’t even saying that, is he? Isn’t he is still in denial that Cuban isn’t a good owner? ( If he is using that logic and his argument before was that Cuban never won therefore would be an awful owner in the MLB and his team would never win a game going 0-162 for 5 seasons straight, then shouldn’t Cuban winning mean he is a winner?
My head hurts.[/quote]Yellon has/had two main gripes: Cuban is “all about himself” and not the team (as if the Rickettses haven’t been shamelessly self-aggrandizing…but I digress) and that Cuban has never won a championship.
To my mind, this championship removes both those complaints, so Al has found recourse in the final refuge of the defeated: sophistry.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]This is not directed at you…
Because winning a title doesn’t change anything about Cuban’s ability as an owner. Using Alvin’s pea-brained logic, Cuban was a great owner at 9:45 pm yesterday, but not at 9:30 pm yesterday.[/quote]
THIS
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yellon has/had two main gripes: Cuban is “all about himself” and not the team (as if the Rickettses haven’t been shamelessly self-aggrandizing…but I digress) and that Cuban has never won a championship.
To my mind, this championship removes both those complaints, so Al has found recourse in the final refuge of the defeated: sophistry.[/quote]
The way Cuban wrote the foreword in Jonah Keri’s book makes me think that he isn’t that bad of an owner. I mean, the team’s made the playoffs just about every year he’s owned it, and have two Finals appearances and a title to show for it. Plus a couple other Western Conference Finals appearances right? Not to mention that the fans actually like the product…
[quote name=Rice Cube]The way Cuban wrote the foreword in Jonah Keri’s book makes me think that he isn’t that bad of an owner. I mean, the team’s made the playoffs just about every year he’s owned it, and have two Finals appearances and a title to show for it. Plus a couple other Western Conference Finals appearances right? Not to mention that the fans actually like the product…[/quote]And that he’s upgraded the player and fan facilities at the arena there to be among the best, if not the best, in the league.
In the meantime, in two seasons under Ricketts, a club that was favored to win the NL pennant has become a laughingstock, on and off the field.
[quote name=Rice Cube]The way Cuban wrote the foreword in Jonah Keri’s book makes me think that he isn’t that bad of an owner. I mean, the team’s made the playoffs just about every year he’s owned it, and have two Finals appearances and a title to show for it. Plus a couple other Western Conference Finals appearances right? Not to mention that the fans actually like the product…[/quote]
Twelve years ago, the Mavericks played in a dump of an arena and 98 percent of the people in Dallas couldn’t name more than two players on the team.
Now, the DFW area becomes a Mavs town pretty much as soon as NFL season ends.
Mark Cuban basically took the Washington Natinals and made them into the SF Giants within a few years.
[quote name=Jame Gumb](dying laughing)[/quote]I knew he’d be fun today. If I was ever going to go over there, it would be today, but I’ve got life to live. (dying laughing)
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4672421/did-bucks-just-assure-mavs-of-nba-title
[quote name=mb21]I knew he’d be fun today. If I was ever going to go over there, it would be today, but I’ve got life to live. (dying laughing)[/quote]
It’s been pretty anti-climactic so far. I’ll keep bringing the gold over here.
I think a lot of fans are turned off by Cuban because he used to be so vocal in the past, and seems like a little kid, but I’ve always liked him because he’s so accessible and hands-on. The Dairy Queen episode was hilarious.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4672421/did-bucks-just-assure-mavs-of-nba-title[/quote]Ari Kaplan approves of this use of statistics.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Ari Kaplan approves of this use of statistics.[/quote]
I wish I would have seen that in December. Would have made the last week much less stressful.
[quote name=Rice Cube]I think a lot of fans are turned off by Cuban because he used to be so vocal in the past, and seems like a little kid, but I’ve always liked him because he’s so accessible and hands-on. The Dairy Queen episode was hilarious.[/quote]Yeah, but I can’t see why. The guy is passionate about the team. All he wants to do is win and make more money, so they can keep winning…and making more money. Losing teams can stay in the black, but they don’t make a ton of money. It doesn’t seem like Ricketts really gets that yet.
[quote name=Rice Cube]I think a lot of fans are turned off by Cuban because he used to be so vocal in the past, and seems like a little kid, but I’ve always liked him because he’s so accessible and hands-on. The Dairy Queen episode was hilarious.[/quote]
He’s new money for sure, but I like that. Why does he have to “act like an owner” for people to like him?
The DQ thing was a perfect illustration of him. Yes, he runs his mouth, but he doesn’t take himself too seriously to work a cash register for a day.
Oh wait, he was being self-aggrandizing…
Fuck you, Alvin.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, but I can’t see why. The guy is passionate about the team. All he wants to do is win and make more money, so they can keep winning…and making more money. Losing teams can stay in the black, but they don’t make a ton of money. It doesn’t seem like Ricketts really gets that yet.[/quote]
I would think fans would like to see their team’s owner care at least as much as they. Or at least act like it.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]He’s new money for sure, but I like that. Why does he have to “act like an owner” for people to like him?
The DQ thing was a perfect illustration of him. Yes, he runs his mouth, but he doesn’t take himself too seriously to work a cash register for a day.
Oh wait, he was being self-aggrandizing…
Fuck you, Alvin.[/quote]
So when he won Dancing With the Stars, did he donate that to charity? I forgot if he won or not but I heard he did okay.
I figure if you as an owner put yourself out there in that way, you cause people who don’t know you to google what you do, and then those people find out about your product (lots of playoffs, decent team, new NBA champions) and that’s pretty much another form of advertising. I don’t see anything wrong with that at all.
It’s really too bad he didn’t buy the Cubs, but I’m glad he was smart enough not to get into a bad deal.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Ari Kaplan approves of this use of statistics.[/quote]Yeah, it’s not that the team they beat were on 12-game winning streaks, which usually means the team is really good. It’s that the Bucks won. (dying laughing)
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, but I can’t see why. The guy is passionate about the team. All he wants to do is win and make more money, so they can keep winning…and making more money. Losing teams can stay in the black, but they don’t make a ton of money. It doesn’t seem like Ricketts really gets that yet.[/quote]It’s really kind of funny because Al wants Ricketts to be the same as Cuban. He wants him to be a huge Cubs fan who roots for the team to win with as much passion as he has. He likes to hear Ricketts talk. He thinks it’s good that Ricketts walks all around the ballpark talking with fans. So on and so forth. Al wants Tom Ricketts to be Mark Cuban, but he doesn’t like Mark Cuban. (dying laughing)
[quote name=Jame Gumb]I would think fans would like to see their team’s owner care at least as much as they. Or at least act like it.[/quote]Yeah. It’s odd that Al embraces Ricketts as a “real fan” who “gets it,” but refuses to acknowledge that Cuban is every bit the actual fan the Ricketts only professes to be.
[quote name=Rice Cube]So when he won Dancing With the Stars, did he donate that to charity? I forgot if he won or not but I heard he did okay.
I figure if you as an owner put yourself out there in that way, you cause people who don’t know you to google what you do, and then those people find out about your product (lots of playoffs, decent team, new NBA champions) and that’s pretty much another form of advertising. I don’t see anything wrong with that at all.
It’s really too bad he didn’t buy the Cubs, but I’m glad he was smart enough not to get into a bad deal.[/quote]Yeah, Cuban knows how to make money.
[quote name=mb21]Yeah, it’s not that the team they beat were on 12-game winning streaks, which usually means the team is really good. It’s that the Bucks won. (dying laughing)[/quote]Yeah. I only laugh because I suspect this is exactly the kind of analysis Kaplan is supplying Hendry and Quade. (dying laughing)
[quote name=Rice Cube]So when he won Dancing With the Stars, did he donate that to charity? I forgot if he won or not but I heard he did okay. [/quote]
I didn’t hear anything about that, but (knowing Cuban, though not personally) I’m sure it was more about winning than the money.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah. I only laugh because I suspect this is exactly the kind of analysis Kaplan is supplying Hendry and Quade. (dying laughing)[/quote]
It’s better to laugh than to cry.
(dying laughing)
[quote name=mb21]It’s really kind of funny because Al wants Ricketts to be the same as Cuban. He wants him to be a huge Cubs fan who roots for the team to win with as much passion as he has. He likes to hear Ricketts talk. He thinks it’s good that Ricketts walks all around the ballpark talking with fans. So on and so forth. Al wants Tom Ricketts to be Mark Cuban, but he doesn’t like Mark Cuban. (dying laughing)[/quote]
The only difference is that Alvin thinks Cuban is doing it to get himself press.
Candidate A has a history of turning shit into gold, including a moribund franchise in a top-5 media market. He is likely one of the most overtly competitive owners in major sports, yet will set aside his ego and hire people he knows are more experienced in sports management than he.
Candidate B likes the team on sale. Met his wife at a game or some shit.
Alvin: Candidate B > Candiate A because it’s not clear how badly it can be perceived that he wants to be on TV.
[quote name=Rice Cube]It’s better to laugh than to cry.[/quote]New image for the sidebar:
It’s OK to say stupid things as long as you’re not trying to get on TV.
I wanted the Mavs to win for me, but I always knew Cuban winning would icing on the cake. I just didn’t realize how much icing there would be.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]New image for the sidebar:
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The goat fucking the Cub is pretty appropriate right now.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]It’s OK to say stupid things as long as you’re not trying to get on TV.[/quote]Because nothing says “I don’t wanna be on TV” like filming an episode of “Undercover Boss.”
Have you voted?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-cubs-lebron-poll,0,5568427.poll
[quote name=Rice Cube]The goat fucking the Cub is pretty appropriate right now.[/quote](dying laughing) I’m not sure that image is ever “appropriate.” (dying laughing)
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Because nothing says “I don’t wanna be on TV” like filming an episode of “Undercover Boss.”[/quote]
That’s different. That was one episode. Cuban appeared on several episodes of Dancing With the Stars, a good show.
Will someone with a BCB account please ask Alvin why he prefers Ricketts to Cuban? And don’t let him get away with his bullshit “it’s all about him” response.
Maybe the best column Rogers has penned in a decade: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-your-morning-phil-realignment-hafner-cuban-20110613,0,7038076.story
Choice bits:
He goes on to lay out two possible solutions. It’s nice expository writing, and it gives you a real sense of the difficulties involved here.
Mark Cuban will buy a baseball team someday, and Cubs fans will forever rue that it was not the Cubs.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]
Mark Cuban will buy a baseball team someday, and Cubs fans will forever rue that it was the Cubs.[/quote]
Cubs fans are so ungrateful.
I’ve always loved Cuban. I don’t like the idea of monolithic archetypes for owners. I also respect him as a businessman.
[quote name=Rice Cube]Cubs fans are so ungrateful.[/quote](dying laughing), I just realized I left out a “not.”
[quote name=Mish]I’ve always loved Cuban. I don’t like the idea of monolithic archetypes for owners. I also respect him as a businessman.[/quote]THIS.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Mark Cuban will buy a baseball team someday, and Cubs fans will forever rue that it was not the Cubs.[/quote]
Cuban buying an NL Central team would be so awesome.
Happy Lebron James Day! Everyone gets to leave work 12 minutes early.
[quote name=jtsunami]Happy Lebron James Day! Everyone gets to leave work 12 minutes early.[/quote](dying laughing)
In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Cuban buying an NL Central team would be so awesome.[/quote]I hope he buys the Pirates and turns them into a Cub-killing machine. Yellon would shit himself.
[quote name=Mish]In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?[/quote]You were told not to discuss this.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing), I just realized I left out a “not.”[/quote]
Oh, I thought you were pulling a Yellon.
I think Cubs fans are already ruing the day.
[quote name=jtsunami]Happy Lebron James Day! Everyone gets to leave work 12 minutes early.[/quote](dying laughing)
[quote name=Mish]In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?[/quote]
When I was there years ago I just walked around the city and went bar hopping. That’s always fun. Too bad the Braves are out of town.
[quote name=Mish]In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?[/quote]I believe Gordon Biersch is a brewery based out of Atlanta. Might be worth checking out. Also Buckhead is a very popular district. When I was pretty young, we went to the famous Buckhead Diner. I remember it being good but especially because of the sweet and sour calimari. Coca-Cola is HQed in Atlanta (they have a tour of the facility). About all I know.
At the end of the day, all of you people rooting for me to fail, tomorrow you’ll have to wake up and post on the same blog that you had before you woke up today. You got the same personal problems you had today and I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things I want to do.
[quote name=Mish]In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?[/quote]
Unless you have a gun, staying inside would be the most fun.
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I was not aware he could say that on SportsCenter.
[quote name=jtsunami]I believe Gordon Biersch is a brewery based out of Atlanta. Might be worth checking out. Also Buckhead is a very popular district. When I was pretty young, we went to the famous Buckhead Diner. I remember it being good but especially because of the sweet and sour calimari. Coca-Cola is HQed in Atlanta (they have a tour of the facility). About all I know.[/quote]Thanks. In Buckhead right now. Just looking to walk around, grab lunch, then hit the road to Nashville.
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]You were told not to discuss this.[/quote](dying laughing)
[quote name=Lebron]At the end of the day, all of you people rooting for me to fail, tomorrow you’ll have to wake up and post on the same blog that you had before you woke up today. You got the same personal problems you had today and I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things I want to do.[/quote]You need to add “show up in the 4th quarter” to your list of things you want to do.
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Unless you have a gun, staying inside would be the most fun.[/quote]What makes you think I wouldn’t have a gun? (dying laughing)
Someone asked Lebron for change of a dollar after the game, but Lebron didn’t have a 4th quarter.
[quote name=jtsunami]I believe Gordon Biersch is a brewery based out of Atlanta. Might be worth checking out. Also Buckhead is a very popular district. When I was pretty young, we went to the famous Buckhead Diner. I remember it being good but especially because of the sweet and sour calimari. Coca-Cola is HQed in Atlanta (they have a tour of the facility). About all I know.[/quote]
A fun thing to do is to go around town always ordering a Pepsi, and when they ask if you would like Coke instead, tell them you can’t have Coke because you used to have a wicked drug problem and that you know they aren’t supposed to use cocaine in the formula anymore, but you can’t take that chance. Then start weeping and tell them how you love your family too much to start down that road again.
[quote name=Aisle424]A fun thing to do is to go around town always ordering a Pepsi, and when they ask if you would like Coke instead, tell them you can’t have Coke because you used to have a wicked drug problem and that you know they aren’t supposed to use cocaine in the formula anymore, but you can’t take that chance. Then start weeping and tell them how you love your family too much to start down that road again.[/quote]This is the worst thing to every happen on this blog.
[quote name=Aisle424]A fun thing to do is to go around town always ordering a Pepsi, and when they ask if you would like Coke instead, tell them you can’t have Coke because you used to have a wicked drug problem and that you know they aren’t supposed to use cocaine in the formula anymore, but you can’t take that chance. Then start weeping and tell them how you love your family too much to start down that road again.[/quote]
I’m proud to be a Coke fiend.
[quote name=Mish]What makes you think I wouldn’t have a gun? (dying laughing)[/quote]
You’re black, right?
/wtf
/racist
[quote name=Jame Gumb]You’re black, right?
/wtf
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[quote name=Aisle424]A fun thing to do is to go to Long John Silvers and be shocked at the prices and say, “Only in New York.”[/quote].
[quote name=Jame Gumb].[/quote]
(dying laughing)
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]This is the worst thing to every happen on this blog.[/quote]
Too soon?
[quote name=Aisle424]A fun thing to do is to go around town always ordering a Pepsi, and when they ask if you would like Coke instead, tell them you can’t have Coke because you used to have a wicked drug problem and that you know they aren’t supposed to use cocaine in the formula anymore, but you can’t take that chance. Then start weeping and tell them how you love your family too much to start down that road again.[/quote](dying laughing)
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]FLAGGED[/quote]
I was just trying to say that he and all the other blacks should stop posting here until Sidney Poitier signs up.
I’M da one who’s comin’ to dinner, bitch!
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