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  • Open Game Thread

    Too lazy to do a real game thread. I predict the Cubs lose 4-3.


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    235 Responses to “Open Game Thread”

    1. 1 Rice Cube says:

      Cubs lose on a TOOTBLAN.

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    2. 2 AndCounting says:

      15-14, Cubs win.

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    3. 3 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]15-14, Cubs win.[/quote]
      Your optimism is always an inspiration.

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    4. 4 mb21 says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]15-14, Cubs win.[/quote]That would be much more exciting than the typical Cubs game.

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    5. 5 Rice Cube says:

      That’s a strikeout?

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    6. 6 Berselius says:

      (dying laughing), what a horribly blown call.

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    7. 7 mb21 says:

      That was a bomb

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    8. 8 Rice Cube says:

      There’s that Pena.

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    9. 9 melissa says:

      PEEN-YA-YA TIME!

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    10. 10 Rice Cube says:

      Now they gotta hope for five full (dying laughing)

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    11. 11 Berselius says:

      PENA!

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    12. 12 Rice Cube says:

      Thank goodness Pena didn’t walk.

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    13. 13 melissa says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Thank goodness Pena didn’t walk BUNT.[/quote]
      fixed

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    14. 14 Berselius says:

      I still can’t believe that Byrd is/was nursing a double digit hitting streak.

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    15. 15 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]I still can’t believe that Byrd is/was nursing a double digit hitting streak.[/quote]
      Did you punch the luck dragon?

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    16. 16 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Did you punch the luck dragon?[/quote]
      I rolled a 2, so I couldn’t find him

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    17. 17 Aisle424 says:

      Phillips’ intro music is Cee Lo’s “Fuck You” (though probably Forget You, but come on, who the hell are we kidding?)

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    18. 18 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Phillips’ intro music is Cee Lo’s “Fuck You” (though probably Forget You, but come on, who the hell are we kidding?)[/quote]
      That’d be awesome on the organ.

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    19. 19 Rice Cube says:

      11 pitch inning for Wells to begin his rehab start.

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    20. 20 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]That’d be awesome on the organ.[/quote]
      That’s what he said.

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    21. 21 AndCounting says:

      It’s kind of sad. When Brad Snyder’s name appears on my TV, I instinctively shield my son’s eyes to keep him from reading an F-bomb. (dying laughing)

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    22. 22 Rice Cube says:

      MB’s 4-3 prediction is still in play.

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    23. 23 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]MB’s 4-3 prediction is still in play.[/quote]I’m never wrong.

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    24. 24 mb21 says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]It’s kind of sad. When Brad Snyder’s name appears on my TV, I instinctively shield my son’s eyes to keep him from reading an F-bomb. (dying laughing)[/quote](dying laughing)

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    25. 25 mb21 says:

      The Reds broadcast just showed that Phillips play against the Astros. Unbelievable.

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    26. 26 Rice Cube says:

      Oooh, high strike.

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    27. 27 Rice Cube says:

      A good call though, but usually I didn’t think they called those.

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    28. 28 dylanj says:

      brad fucking snyder is going to beat Hendry with a tire iron for not calling him up

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    29. 29 Rice Cube says:

      Nice bunt.

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    30. 30 Berselius says:

      [quote name=mb21]I’m never wrong.[/quote]
      Just don’t complain about how all the other team does is hit singles (dying laughing)

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    31. 31 Rice Cube says:

      HR/FB luck dragon smiles on Garza.

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    32. 32 dylanj says:

      well i just read the cashner news. what a bummer

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    33. 33 Berselius says:

      [quote name=dylanj]brad fucking snyder is going to beat Hendry with a tire iron for not calling him up[/quote]
      it would be a funnier mental image if he just beat him with a tire, which is how I first read it (dying laughing)

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    34. 34 Berselius says:

      [quote name=dylanj]well i just read the cashner news. what a bummer[/quote]
      At least it’s the same injury, and not something like a torn labrum

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    35. 35 dylanj says:

      isnt a strain a tear though?

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    36. 36 Berselius says:

      [quote name=dylanj]isnt a strain a tear though?[/quote]
      Maybe I’m not getting the full news. I just saw that he reaggravated the same injury. He’s rehabbing, and IIRC torn labrum = surgery.

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    37. 37 Berselius says:

      Cubs should start swinging at everything and hope the game gets in

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    38. 38 dylanj says:

      well the original injury was a strain behind the rotator cuff. so thats a small tear. now its happened again.

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    39. 39 Berselius says:

      Though this rain doesn’t look like it should be too bad, it will probably just be light rain on and off for the rest of the game

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    40. 40 Rice Cube says:

      A strain is a minor tear. If he aggravated it it probably means the tear didn’t heal and might have gotten a bit worse. But most of the muscle/ligament is probably still hanging on strong so that’s why they’re not exploring surgery. I doubt any team elects to have surgery unless they absolutely have to.

      Gawd Byrd.

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    41. 41 dylanj says:

      its been a tough year for our farm so far

      Vitters has flamed out, Carpenter & Jackson have taken a step backwards, Simpson fucking sucks. Whitenack has been the only pleasant story to follow

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    42. 42 Berselius says:

      [quote name=dylanj]its been a tough year for our farm so far

      Vitters has flamed out, Carpenter & Jackson have taken a step backwards, Simpson fucking sucks. Whitenack has been the only pleasant story to follow[/quote]
      McNutt has that evil blister too

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    43. 43 mb21 says:

      [quote name=dylanj]well the original injury was a strain behind the rotator cuff. so thats a small tear. now its happened again.[/quote]Did we ever hear if it was a mild/grade 1 strain or worse? I’ve looked for that information, but haven’t really found something I thought was an actual diagnosis. But yes, a strain is a tear and vice versa.

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    44. 44 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]A strain is a minor tear. If he aggravated it it probably means the tear didn’t heal and might have gotten a bit worse. But most of the muscle/ligament is probably still hanging on strong so that’s why they’re not exploring surgery. I doubt any team elects to have surgery unless they absolutely have to.

      Gawd Byrd.[/quote]Yeah, it’s a last resort. I think he ends up having surgery, but probably not before trying to rehab again.

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    45. 45 Berselius says:

      [quote name=mb21]Did we ever hear if it was a mild/grade 1 strain or worse? I’ve looked for that information, but haven’t really found something I thought was an actual diagnosis. But yes, a strain is a tear and vice versa.[/quote]
      There are tears and there are Motherfucking Tears though. I’m guessing it’s still a minor one.

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    46. 46 dylanj says:

      and i know mb21 isnt fond of him but im willing to take a wait and see with Ha.

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    47. 47 mb21 says:

      There are 3 types of tears. A grade 1 is just a minor tear, grade 2 is a partial tear and grade 3 is a complete rupture in the muscle tissue (think Nomar).

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    48. 48 mb21 says:

      [quote name=dylanj]and i know mb21 isnt fond of him but im willing to take a wait and see with Ha.[/quote]It’s not that I’m not fond of him, DJ. I hope he improves. I think jtsunami’s ranking (6th) is about right. He’s improved plate discipline away from being a top prospect. It’s easier said than done. I’d much rather have someone like Ha who can actually hit as opposed to Vitters. I’m just not holding my breath.

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    49. 49 dylanj says:

      yeah i understand. it may just be me but i think our farm is down a decent amount from when the season started.

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    50. 50 dylanj says:

      vitters is D-O-N-E. kid cant hit, cant walk and can’t stick at 3B

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    51. 51 mb21 says:

      [quote name=dylanj]yeah i understand. it may just be me but i think our farm is down a decent amount from when the season started.[/quote]Considering it would have been ranked about 8th before the Garza trade and 19th after, it’s way down from where it was just 6 to 8 months ago. They have an awful farm system. I’m not yet sold on Whitenack. Or McNutt to be honest. McNutt reminds me of Jay Jackson. Not a high draft pick who skyrocketed through the organization. I’m always hesitant to think too highly of those guys.

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    52. 52 Rice Cube says:

      From Peoria Chiefs:

      Its 3-1 QC as we go bottom 4. Final line on Wells: 3.2ip, 6h, 3r, 1er, 0bb, 1k 48 pitches, 34 strikes.

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    53. 53 mb21 says:

      Agreed on Vitters though as you know, I’ve thought that for over a year now. I wouldn’t have had him in my top 10 entering 2010.

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    54. 54 dylanj says:

      I think McNutt is the real deal. the reports on his stuff and makeup both seem pretty good and results are solid as well.

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    55. 55 dylanj says:

      Ha just worked a 3-1 count then tripled.

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    56. 56 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=dylanj]Ha just worked a 3-1 count then tripled.[/quote]
      And then he pointed to the pitcher and said “Ha!”

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    57. 57 dylanj says:

      every time we play the Reds i just keep hoping Brett Jackson turns out like Drew Stubbs

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    58. 58 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing)

      FAIL.

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    59. 59 dylanj says:

      Austin Kirk is having a great year though

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    60. 60 Chris Dickerson says:

      [quote name=dylanj]its been a tough year for our farm so far

      Vitters has flamed out, Carpenter & Jackson have taken a step backwards, Simpson fucking sucks. Whitenack has been the only pleasant story to follow[/quote]
      Speaking of Whitenack; 2K/1BB 8:1 GO/FO so far thru 4IP. He generates big GO numbers in every start it seems.

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    61. 61 Berselius says:

      Cub’d

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    62. 62 dylanj says:

      jesus christ

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    63. 63 Rice Cube says:

      Was that ball out of play? Pat and Keith think the Cubs got hosed.

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    64. 64 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

      don’t you have to try to be this bad?

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    65. 65 melissa says:

      3 unearned runs on one play. It’s a way of [L]ife.
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    66. 66 Rice Cube says:

      Gameday crashed trying to process that play (dying laughing)

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    67. 67 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      This is the first Cubs game I’ve watched in a week, and I’m ready to watch something else.

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    68. 68 melissa says:

      [quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]This is the first Cubs game I’ve watched in a week, and I’m ready to watch something else.[/quote]
      Turn on the Cubs game, Let’s See What Happens.

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    69. 69 AndCounting says:

      That team meeting really whipped the Cubs into shape.

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    70. 70 Rice Cube says:

      Maybe b really does need to punch the luck dragon.

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    71. 71 ZappBrannigan says:

      Thought Castro would end up on third there

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    72. 72 dylanj says:

      a 3-0 wag.

      sigh

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    73. 73 uncle dave says:

      Unproductive out. This team’s lack of grindiness is coming back to haunt them…

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    74. 74 dylanj says:

      this fucking team is a joke.

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    75. 75 Perkins says:

      [quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]This is the first Cubs game I’ve watched in a week, and I’m ready to watch something else.[/quote]
      iTunes has several games from the 2008 season that are much more worth watching than anything from 2011. Ye gods this team is bad.

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    76. 76 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=dylanj]a 3-0 wag.

      sigh[/quote]
      That was close but I think it was ball four.

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    77. 77 Berselius says:

      This is Volquez’s best start all season

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    78. 78 ZappBrannigan says:

      Red’s announcers: “Rookie mistake by Darwin Barney…”

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    79. 79 ZappBrannigan says:

      Red’s announcers: “Reds scored three runs on a ball that never left the infield”

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    80. 80 ZappBrannigan says:

      Castro basically punched Fred Lewis in the face
      (dying laughing)

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    81. 81 Mish says:

      Got a handle on my PC virus but I still cant see comments on it yet. I’m reinstalling firefox for lack of a better idea

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    82. 82 melissa says:

      [quote name=ZappBrannigan]Red’s announcers: “Reds scored three runs on a ball that never left the infield”[/quote]
      Technically it did leave the infield when the throw hit the camera out of the field of play thus allowing two of the runs to score.

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    83. 83 Berselius says:

      Weird to see only two Ks for Garza today

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    84. 84 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing)

      WTF is going on?

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    85. 85 Berselius says:

      (dying laughing)

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    86. 86 Rice Cube says:

      Jesus Christ! WTF is this bullshit! (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)

      Was that a Welington fail?

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    87. 87 Berselius says:

      what the hell was that? He walked halfway to the dugout before going to 1b

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    88. 88 Mish says:

      This game is retarded.

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    89. 89 Berselius says:

      That should be ejection tirade worthy for Quade

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    90. 90 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]what the hell was that? He walked halfway to the dugout before going to 1b[/quote]
      I thought if he leaves the box without attempting to go to 1B he is automatically out.

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    91. 91 Berselius says:

      Oh well, at least it means an extra K for Garza. It’s probably his last inning anyway.

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    92. 92 melissa says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I thought if he leaves the box without attempting to go to 1B he is automatically out.[/quote]
      I thought it was changed as a response to the Pierzynski play against the Angels in the 05 playoffs.

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    93. 93 AndCounting says:

      Embarrassing that Castillo didn’t just tag Cairo, but he did forfeit his right to the base. Even more embarrassing that Quade didn’t even protest.

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    94. 94 Berselius says:

      Even Brenly thinks it’s BS

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    95. 95 melissa says:

      Brenly says the rule book states batter is out if he leaves dirt circle around home if he’s not advancing to first.

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    96. 96 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=melissa]I thought it was changed as a response to the Pierzynski play against the Angels in the 05 playoffs.[/quote]
      I don’t think AJ left the batter’s box. He has to make an initial attempt to get to 1B. If he doesn’t it’s automatically out. I could be wrong though.

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    97. 97 melissa says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]Embarrassing that Castillo didn’t just tag Cairo, but he did forfeit his right to the base. Even more embarrassing that Quade didn’t even protest.[/quote]
      Quade argued earlier and was wrong so by his unwritten rules he can’t argue another play in the game. I thought that was common knowledge. (dying laughing)

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    98. 98 Rice Cube says:

      Campana is in? Interesting.

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    99. 99 Rice Cube says:

      Oooh, how do the Cubs fuck this one up?

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    100. 100 Rice Cube says:

      Who’s got the bunt signal?!

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    101. 101 Berselius says:

      I feel bad for guys who make their MLB debut as a pinch runner or defensive replacement (dying laughing)

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    102. 102 AndCounting says:

      [quote name=melissa]Quade argued earlier and was wrong so by his unwritten rules he can’t argue another play in the game. I thought that was common knowledge. (dying laughing)[/quote]I wish we could write these rules down, but I’m sure there’s an unwritten rule against that. And holy crap, this is ridiculous. This game. No one wants it.

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    103. 103 melissa says:

      Why put in a pinch runner just to bunt him over? Why not try to let him steal a bag? Ugh

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    104. 104 Berselius says:

      (dying laughing), according to Yahoo some guy named “M. Johnson” is pinch hitting

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    105. 105 Rice Cube says:

      Reed fail.

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    106. 106 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius](dying laughing), according to Yahoo some guy named “M. Johnson” is pinch hitting[/quote]
      The “M” is for “Magic” (dying laughing)

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    107. 107 melissa says:

      I’m pretty sure Quade didn’t go out to argue because he didn’t know what the fuck happened.

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    108. 108 ZappBrannigan says:

      Come on, Kosuke!

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    109. 109 Berselius says:

      ugh, reedz

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    110. 110 Rice Cube says:

      Bases loaded for Darwin Fucking Barney.

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    111. 111 Berselius says:

      Time for some more runner on 3b with less than 2 outs FAIL

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    112. 112 melissa says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Bases loaded for Darwin Fucking Barney.[/quote]
      Way to out Darwin and Barney.

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    113. 113 Rice Cube says:

      Bases-loaded walk would be nice.

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    114. 114 ZappBrannigan says:

      Fantastic AB by Barney

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    115. 115 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Bases-loaded walk would be nice.[/quote]
      Ricestradamus.

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    116. 116 Mish says:

      Well, this game’s been something.

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    117. 117 Mish says:

      [quote name=Mish]Well, this game’s been something.[/quote]So I can comment but not see comments from my PC. This is weird.

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    118. 118 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Mish]Well, this game’s been something.[/quote]
      The way this game has been going, Castro is going to fly out to RF and Fukudome will be doubled off of 2b

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    119. 119 Rice Cube says:

      Bah.

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    120. 120 Berselius says:

      Marshall just hung clown shoes on Votto

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    121. 121 AndCounting says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Marshall just hung clown shoes on Votto[/quote]That was hilarious. He ducked out of there like a little leaguer.

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    122. 122 mb21 says:

      That curve Marshall threw to Votto was one of the best pitches I’ve ever seen him throw.

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    123. 123 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate](dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

      don’t you have to try to be this bad?[/quote]I think people underestimated how bad this defense was.

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    124. 124 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mish]Got a handle on my PC virus but I still cant see comments on it yet. I’m reinstalling firefox for lack of a better idea[/quote]What virus? I tried this site on Windows 7 Firefox 3.5.x and the comments loaded for me.

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    125. 125 AndCounting says:

      Way to go, kid. Brenly just messed himself.

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    126. 126 ZappBrannigan says:

      Nice to see that first hit! Looks like he can fly.

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    127. 127 Rice Cube says:

      Do you guys have a golden sombrero gif?

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    128. 128 ZappBrannigan says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]Way to go, kid. Brenly just messed himself.[/quote]
      Glad I’m not watching the Cubs broadcast

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    129. 129 Xoomwaffle says:

      Wait, they can’t find a way to get Colvin at bats, but Tony Campana can play in his first available game?

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    130. 130 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Xoomwaffle]Wait, they can’t find a way to get Colvin at bats, but Tony Campana can play in his first available game?[/quote]
      They had to see what happens.

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    131. 131 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Do you guys have a golden sombrero gif?[/quote]

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    132. 132 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Xoomwaffle]Wait, they can’t find a way to get Colvin at bats, but Tony Campana can play in his first available game?[/quote]
      Only after Reedz pinch hit

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    133. 133 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Berselius]Only after Reedz pinch hit[/quote]
      Tony Campana pinch ran for Soriano before Reed’s pinch-fail.

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    134. 134 Xoomwaffle says:

      Did Soriano get hurt?

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    135. 135 bubblesdachimp says:

      I was coming in here to post about the farm…

      I am out on Vitters and Jay Jackson.

      I am up on Whitenack, Ha, and Lake (yes i know the other 2 have a BB issue but that might be fixable granted not with this team but somewhere)

      Still big on McNutt

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    136. 136 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Xoomwaffle]Did Soriano get hurt?[/quote]
      It was the top of the seventh so it was like the requisite speedy/better defender substitution.

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    137. 137 Berselius says:

      [quote name=Xoomwaffle]Did Soriano get hurt?[/quote]
      He did…3 years ago

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    138. 138 Xoomwaffle says:

      [quote name=Xoomwaffle]Did Soriano get hurt?[/quote]
      Nevermind. This is clearly his punishment for getting thrown out at the plate last night.

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    139. 139 Xoomwaffle says:

      [quote name=Berselius]He did…3 years ago[/quote]
      :(

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    140. 140 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Xoomwaffle]Nevermind. This is clearly his punishment for getting thrown out at the plate last night.[/quote]
      (dying laughing)

      Because the 3B coach had nothing to do with it.

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    141. 141 Berselius says:

      On a related note, Carl Crawford wOBA: .236 (smugly laughing)

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    142. 142 Rice Cube says:

      I wonder if Campana would’ve cut that ball off to keep Rolen to a single. Maybe not, hit pretty hard.

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    143. 143 Rice Cube says:

      Marmol better be warming up now.

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    144. 144 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing)
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    145. 145 melissa says:

      So, 4 Reds runs have scored on bad throws by the pitchers tonight. It’s a way of [L]ife.

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    146. 146 mb21 says:

      I’m really starting to dig the Reds announcers.

      Brantley: Put the ball on the ground and see if the Cubs infield can field it.

      (dying laughing)

      Every team should bunt against the Cubs infield. It’s a fucking joke.

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    147. 147 mb21 says:

      Brantley said that as if that’s the game plan for teams against the Cubs this year too.

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    148. 148 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]Brantley said that as if that’s the game plan for teams against the Cubs this year too.[/quote]
      I’d tell my team to do this. Reds announcers know their shit.

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    149. 149 melissa says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I’d tell my team to do this. Reds announcers know their shit.[/quote]
      Brantley is an idiot.

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    150. 150 uncle dave says:

      Somewhere, the baby Jesus cries.

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    151. 151 mb21 says:

      [quote name=melissa]Brantley is an idiot.[/quote]I don’t know, Melissa. He’s said about 757 things the last two days that have been said on this blog about the Cubs. Only 3 of them have been said by Len and Bob. Brantley may be an idiot, but we’re idiots too because I swear the guy has been reading this blog.

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    152. 152 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=melissa]Brantley is an idiot.[/quote]
      Never heard him so you’d know better than I.

      Jeez. I feel bad that this is happening to Kerry Wood, but I’m not surprised.

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    153. 153 mb21 says:

      Missed cutoff man. (dying laughing)

      I take back everything I have said about Quade not being deserving of this job. The Cubs are a AA team. Quade is more than qualified to be coaching a AA team.

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    154. 154 Berselius says:

      Kerry’s just trying to make Mateo feel better. What a Leader.

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    155. 155 melissa says:

      [quote name=mb21]I don’t know, Melissa. He’s said about 757 things the last two days that have been said on this blog about the Cubs. Only 3 of them have been said by Len and Bob. Brantley may be an idiot, but we’re idiots too because I swear the guy has been reading this blog.[/quote]
      Any idiot can see this team is bad. Do you really expect the announcers paid by the Cubs to criticize them like the opposition would? Brantley is a blowhard and a legend in his own mind, I don’t enjoy listening to him. I’m pretty sure everyone here would like him about as much as they do Brenly if he were the announcer for the Cubs.

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    156. 156 Rice Cube says:

      I guess at this point you save Marmol for Florida, right?

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    157. 157 mb21 says:

      Now tHom and Brantley are talking about how they watched a lot of Reds games just like the Cubs are playing tonight and that the Reds never had the payroll this team does.

      I like these guys. i went into this series with a strong dislike for tHom, but i actually like the guy now.

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    158. 158 mb21 says:

      [quote name=melissa]Any idiot can see this team is bad. Do you really expect the announcers paid by the Cubs to criticize them like the opposition would? Brantley is a blowhard and a legend in his own mind, I don’t enjoy listening to him. I’m pretty sure everyone here would like him about as much as they do Brenly if he were the announcer for the Cubs.[/quote]Maybe, but what I’m saying is that of all the broadcasts I’ve listened to this season, no team has pegged this Cubs team like Brantley and tHom have. Not even close. Every other announcer has thought this team could contend. Every one of them. These guys think the Cubs are a joke. They’re right and much smarter than any other announcer I’ve heard call a Cubs game this season.

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    159. 159 Berselius says:

      [quote name=mb21]Now tHom and Brantley are talking about how they watched a lot of Reds games just like the Cubs are playing tonight and that the Reds never had the payroll this team does.

      I like these guys. i went into this series with a strong dislike for tHom, but i actually like the guy now.[/quote]
      FWIW. Brenly’s been quite blunt about the shittiness of the Cubs today

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    160. 160 Rice Cube says:

      Good hustle by Kosuke.

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    161. 161 Bubba Biscuit says:

      Jeff Brantley went to Mississippi State, plenty of reason to like the guy and never question his intelligence. Now if he went to Ole Miss, then I would see how he could be an idiot.

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    162. 162 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Berselius]FWIW. Brenly’s been quite blunt about the shittiness of the Cubs today[/quote]Brenly has been better at that this year. He’s also picked on other players for a change as well. I really haven’t had much to complain about with regards to Brenly this year.

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    163. 163 melissa says:

      Brenneman and Brantley are notorious for bashing the Cubs even when they aren’t bad, this isn’t a revelation. (dying laughing)

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    164. 164 mb21 says:

      [quote name=melissa]Brenneman and Brantley are notorious for bashing the Cubs even when they aren’t bad, this isn’t a revelation. (dying laughing)[/quote]Not the Cubs team, Melissa. I listened to them call Cubs games in 2007 and 2008 and they were always picking on the Cubs for some obscure bullshit reason.

      Brennaman earned my respect last night when he went on and on about the great career Zambrano has had. He even talked about wins argument and flat out said it ain’t his fault the team didn’t score. I’ve never heard an announcer say that about a pitcher. Any pitcher. These guys may be blowhards. I don’t doubt that and wouldn’t argue with it, but they’re a hell of a lot more intelligent than the two calling the Cubs games.

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    165. 165 Rice Cube says:

      All seven runs unearned (dying laughing)

      Oh wait, 5 unearned, 2 on Wood were earned.

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    166. 166 AndCounting says:

      Innovative Sucking. It’s what they do.

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    167. 167 mb21 says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]Innovative Sucking. It’s what they do.[/quote](dying laughing) they’ve been doing it for a LONG time.

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    168. 168 Bubba Biscuit says:

      [quote name=mb21] but they’re a hell of a lot more intelligent than the two calling the Cubs games.[/quote]
      Jesus, such high standards we have for others.

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    169. 169 AndCounting says:

      Say what you want about the Cubs infield, but that was pretty much all on two plays by the pitchers. I don’t know that this game is really evidence of the defense being crappy. I mean, it’s two pitchers throwing two balls away that results in five runs . . . (dying laughing)

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    170. 170 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Peasants! Arst thou conversing?

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    171. 171 melissa says:

      7 unearned runs, Quade’s little tirade really lit a fire under this team.
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    172. 172 ACT says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]Say what you want about the Cubs infield, but that was pretty much all on two plays by the pitchers. I don’t know that this game is really evidence of the defense being crappy. I mean, it’s two pitchers throwing two balls away that results in five runs . . . (dying laughing)[/quote]And one of the errors was by a newbie catcher.

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    173. 173 Rice Cube says:

      The box scores must be contradictory. Says two of the runs given up by Wood were earned.

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    174. 174 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=melissa]7 unearned runs, Quade’s little tirade really lit a fire under this team.
      (dying laughing)
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      (dying laughing)[/quote]Just prove his point, he’s going to shake up the batting order. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?

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    175. 175 melissa says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]The box scores must be contradictory. Says two of the runs given up by Wood were earned.[/quote]
      i was going by what Len said, so the box score is probably correct.

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    176. 176 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=melissa]i was going by what Len said, so the box score is probably correct.[/quote]
      They were runs regardless. Epic fail.

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    177. 177 melissa says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Just prove his point, he’s going to shake up the batting order. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?[/quote]
      God hates the Cubs, that’s just science.

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    178. 178 Berselius says:

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    179. 179 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      If the Cubs were a car, they’d be a rusty Yugo.

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    180. 180 AndCounting says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]They were runs regardless. Epic fail.[/quote]They might have to resolve that. They could argue that the runs would have scored afterward anyway, but they would have to rule that a good throw from Wood wouldn’t have retired the runner at third, in which case that run at the very least wouldn’t have scored. But I suppose that’s a judgment call by the scorer. Or something.

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    181. 181 melissa says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]They might have to resolve that. They could argue that the runs would have scored afterward anyway, but they would have to rule that a good throw from Wood wouldn’t have retired the runner at third, in which case that run at the very least wouldn’t have scored. But I suppose that’s a judgment call by the scorer. Or something.[/quote]
      I also don’t think Hanigan should be earned when he was only on 3rd because of the bad throw and scored on a sac fly.

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    182. 182 Rice Cube says:

      ESPN’s box score is showing Wood has two earned runs, but MLB.com’s box score shows all runs unearned. I think I’m more inclined to believe MLB.com though.

      What a fail.

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    183. 183 Aisle424 says:

      This is kind of like trying to decide which bullet killed Kennedy.

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    184. 184 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]This is kind of like trying to decide which bullet killed Kennedy.[/quote]And to think this team was a honest WS contender just 3 years ago.

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    185. 185 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]And to think this team was a honest WS contender just 3 years ago.[/quote]
      *almost commits seppuku*

      Depressing.

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    186. 186 Rice Cube says:
    187. 187 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Wow. This needs Yakety Sax.

      http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=14897499/quoteYe gods. That’s like watching a rabbit fuck a football.

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    188. 188 mb21 says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]Say what you want about the Cubs infield, but that was pretty much all on two plays by the pitchers. I don’t know that this game is really evidence of the defense being crappy. I mean, it’s two pitchers throwing two balls away that results in five runs . . . (dying laughing)[/quote]Good point.

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    189. 189 mb21 says:

      Whether or not the runs Woody allowed were earned, he gave up 4 hits in 1 inning. Bad luck and all that of course, but it’s not like he was lights out.

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    190. 190 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Ye gods. That’s like watching a rabbit fuck a football.[/quote](dying laughing)

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    191. 191 GW says:

      Reds and Dbacks are neck and neck for the worst tv guys, imo. I really enjoy the Mets’ crew

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    192. 192 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=GW]Reds and Dbacks are neck and neck for the worst tv guys, imo. I really enjoy the Mets’ crew[/quote]Nothing, and I mean nothing tops the shittastic, ear-raping, penis-measuring contest that is the White Sox booth of Hawk Harrelson and Former Playgirl Model Steve Stone.

      Worst MLB tv team, ever, and it’s not even close. They make Buck and McCarver look like Scully and Brickhouse.

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    193. 193 GW says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Nothing, and I mean nothing tops the shittastic, ear-raping, penis-measuring contest that is the White Sox booth of Hawk Harrelson and Former Playgirl Model Steve Stone.

      Worst MLB tv team, ever, and it’s not even close. They make Buck and McCarver look like Scully and Brickhouse.[/quote]
      yeah, should have added the caveat: “in games that I will actually watch.” I have not had the volume on for a sox game since before Stone’s migration southward.

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    194. 194 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=GW]yeah, should have added the caveat: “in games that I will actually watch.” I have not had the volume on for a sox game since before Stone’s migration southward.[/quote](dying laughing), it’s so, so bad. Hawk and Paciorek were bad, but Hawk and FPM are just utterly horrendous.

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    195. 195 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Wow. This needs Yakety Sax.

      http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=14897499/quote
      It was probably rain water dripping off some surface, but it sure looked like beer being poured on Tony Campana when he went to field that overthrow in the LF corner.

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    196. 196 Suburban kid says:

      [quote name=Mish]This game season is retarded.[/quote]I know, right?

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    197. 197 Suburban kid says:

      Brennaman seems a little less douchey these days but “Cowboy” Brantley is still a tool. Even if he says something non-stupid once in awhile, I can’t stand hearing him say it.

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    198. 198 Mish says:

      Yeah, I’m not a huge fan of Brennaman or Brantley, but I’m also the only one here who likes Len, so whatever.

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    199. 199 mb21 says:

      I don’t know that I’ve ever had an issue with Brantley before, but I never liked Brennaman before this series. After these last two games I at least have some respect for him. I enjoyed Brantley a lot.

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    200. 200 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mish]Yeah, I’m not a huge fan of Brennaman or Brantley, but I’m also the only one here who likes Len, so whatever.[/quote]The problems I have with Len are that he never tells us where the fielders are position or who is up in the bullpen. There’s several other little things like that. Most PBP announcers provide that information. Len never does. It’s been a big reason why I’ve enjoyed listening to other team’s announcers since the Cubs hired him. I can see what’s happening on the field the camera is focused on. Tell me what’s going on out of my view.

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    201. 202 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Whitenack: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 5 K, 2 BB, 11-2 GO-FO

      Kirk: 5.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 3 K, 0 BB, 6-6 GO-FO

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    202. 203 Mish says:

      [quote name=mb21]The problems I have with Len are that he never tells us where the fielders are position or who is up in the bullpen. There’s several other little things like that. Most PBP announcers provide that information. Len never does. It’s been a big reason why I’ve enjoyed listening to other team’s announcers since the Cubs hired him. I can see what’s happening on the field the camera is focused on. Tell me what’s going on out of my view.[/quote]
      Yah I just like Len because he bring in saber concepts to the broadcast, and doesn’t deal in the cliches (or at least heavily qualifies them). I’m strange though, I can’t listen to most broadcasters because they drive me up a wall with their canned lines, clear homerism and espousal of things that have proven to be untrue. But I never really thought about the bullpen or positioning stuff before.

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    203. 205 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      Yeah, I just linked to Baseball Prospectus.

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    204. 206 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/red_black_cafe_shows_portland.html[/quote]
      Interesting story, not sure exactly what to think. Between my lifestyle and following abuses in the criminal justice system closely, I probably loathe officers more than most. But I don’t really see why he was kicked out, but I’m glad that it wasn’t more of an incident than it was.

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    205. 207 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Yeah, I just linked to Baseball Prospectus.[/quote]-1 faget point

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    206. 208 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]Interesting story, not sure exactly what to think. Between my lifestyle and following abuses in the criminal justice system closely, I probably loathe officers more than most. But I don’t really see why he was kicked out, but I’m glad that it wasn’t more of an incident than it was.[/quote]
      Jeez, it was just a link. You don’t have to try to have an opinion about it, faget.

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    207. 209 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      It’s on to Miami for two against the Marlins. At least the Cubs know it won’t be cold there. If it is… well, then they have a problem of a different sort.
      – Alvin

      wut?

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    208. 210 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]wut?[/quote]
      Yellon thinks that the Cubs players are reptilian I guess.

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    209. 211 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=13935[/quote]If the Cubs actually take someone in the top 30, I’m betting it’s Lindor. He’s the perfect player for Wilken. I’m still doubtful that they’ll take anyone in the top 30. Probably not even in the top 100.

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    210. 212 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mish]Yah I just like Len because he bring in saber concepts to the broadcast, and doesn’t deal in the cliches (or at least heavily qualifies them). I’m strange though, I can’t listen to most broadcasters because they drive me up a wall with their canned lines, clear homerism and espousal of things that have proven to be untrue. But I never really thought about the bullpen or positioning stuff before.[/quote]Len may bring up some advanced stats, but he doesn’t use them. He uses the same stupid small sample stats that every other announcer uses.

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    211. 213 Mish says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]Jeez, it was just a link. You don’t have to try to have an opinion about it, faget.[/quote]
      I didn’t try, slapnuts.

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    212. 214 mb21 says:

      Starling is the best athlete in the 2011 draft. As a pitcher, he’d be a potential first-round pick as a 6-foot-5, 195-pound righthander with a fastball that touches 95 mph. He’s also a gifted quarterback who earned a scholarship from Nebraska after leading Gardner-Edgerton to the Kansas 5-A state semifinals as a senior. Starling ran for 2,377 yards and 31 touchdowns last fall, while passing for 790 yards and eight more scores. Despite his ability on the mound and on the gridiron, his future is as a five-tool center fielder who resembles Drew Stubbs. Starling missed nearly a month with a quad injury this spring, but that didn’t dent scouts’ enthusiasm, and he homered twice in his first game back. His strength, bat speed and the leverage in his righthanded swing give him above-average power. His swing got long at times on the showcase circuit, but Starling did a nice job of shortening it and making consistent hard contact later in the summer. His speed is as impressive as his power, making him a basestealing threat and giving him plenty of range in center field. He has the power and arm strength to profile as a star in right field as well. Starling has faced little in the way of challenging high school competition and will need to smooth out rough edges in his game in pro ball, but that hasn’t prevented him from making the short list of candidates to go No. 1 overall to the Pirates.

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    213. 215 Mish says:

      [quote name=mb21]Len may bring up some advanced stats, but he doesn’t use them. He uses the same stupid small sample stats that every other announcer uses.[/quote]
      True, but I think he does enough with not relying on RBIs and Wins to evaluate and discuss players. My only real frame of reference is previous Cubs booths, the White Sox booth (I HATE THEM), and the national media, which has mostly consisted of Joe Morgan, Tim McCarver, Joe Morgan, Joe Buck, Joe Morgan, Aaron Boone, Mark Grace, Dick Stockton, Rick Sutcliffe, etc. Len’s the first I can actually listen to without punching myself.

      Tho I really do like Drew Staats for the Rays, tho.

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    214. 216 mb21 says:

      Lindor moved to the United States from Puerto Rico as a 12-year-old, and four years later he captained USA Baseball’s 16U club to a gold-medal victory against Cuba in the World Youth Championship in Taiwan. A baseball rat, Lindor has tremendous work ethic to go with above-average tools, and he plays the game with ease and passion. He’s a switch-hitter with a line-drive stroke from both sides of the plate, and he has excellent hands that work both at the plate and in the field. He has the tools to play shortstop at the highest level, with smooth actions, fluidity, instincts and good fundamentals. He’s a plus runner but not a burner. Lindor’s power is the biggest question about him. He has flashed more than just gap power at times, which was pushing him up draft boards. His season ended in April, and he wasn’t expected to play in Florida’s high school all-star game, instead working out on his own. Scouting directors said Lindor was a legitimate candidate for the No. 1 overall pick, but more likely he’ll slot in just behind that.

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    215. 217 mb21 says:

      Len reminds me of all the guys you mentioned. To be honest, I haven’t heard him evaluate a single player without using traditional stats. Batting average is the first thing he always brings up.

      Maybe discussions in private are different, but on the air they’re similar to every other PBP announcer in the game in my opinion.

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    216. 218 Mish says:

      Whatever, it’s not a huge deal. I’m somewhat shocked you’d lump Len in with that group, though.

      Anyways, are there any plug-ins or programs that need to run for me to see comments? I can’t see it on IE or Firefox on my PC, and I reinstalled FF and I also created a new user with a clean registry and still nothing.

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    217. 219 mb21 says:

      Can you send me a screen cap of the page when you load it? Does the component not show up at all? When did this start happening? Can you see the comments on this page: http://demo.joomlatune.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:joomla-community-portal-online&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50#comments ?

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    218. 220 mb21 says:

      [quote name=mb21]Can you send me a screen cap of the page when you load it? Does the component not show up at all? When did this start happening? Can you see the comments on this page: http://demo.joomlatune.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:joomla-community-portal-online&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50#comments ?[/quote]
      On the same computer you’re having problems

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    219. 221 mb21 says:

      If this is happening to you then I’m sure it’s happening to others. Maybe we need a new comment component.

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    220. 222 Rice Cube says:

      I like the part during the 8th inning where the WPA needle looked like it took Viagra.

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    221. 223 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=mb21]If the Cubs actually take someone in the top 30, I’m betting it’s Lindor. He’s the perfect player for Wilken. I’m still doubtful that they’ll take anyone in the top 30. Probably not even in the top 100.[/quote]
      I’m thinking Starling or the Bradleys.

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    222. 224 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=Mish]I didn’t try, slapnuts.[/quote]

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    223. 225 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Jame Gumb]I’m thinking Starling or the Bradleys.[/quote]I’ll bet you $50 they don’t take Starling. For that matter, make it $50 they don’t take anyone in the top 30.

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    224. 226 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]I’ll bet you $50 they don’t take Starling. For that matter, make it $50 they don’t take anyone in the top 30.[/quote]
      I thought you guys only made bets in BBQ sauce.

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    225. 227 Mish says:

      [quote name=mb21]Can you send me a screen cap of the page when you load it? Does the component not show up at all? When did this start happening? Can you see the comments on this page: http://demo.joomlatune.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:joomla-community-portal-online&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50#comments ?[/quote]
      Well I don’t have access to it atm, but it would just look like a normal thread as if there were no comments. If I post a comment, it accepts it (I’d double check on my ipad) but I still don’t see the comments stream. I’m using Firefox on my work PC and have no problems, and no probs on the iPad. It’s really weird.

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    226. 228 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I thought you guys only made bets in BBQ sauce.[/quote]I’m assuming Ryno will buy an adequate amount of Cookie’s.

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    227. 229 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mish]Well I don’t have access to it atm, but it would just look like a normal thread as if there were no comments. If I post a comment, it accepts it (I’d double check on my ipad) but I still don’t see the comments stream. I’m using Firefox on my work PC and have no problems, and no probs on the iPad. It’s really weird.[/quote]Check out that demo site. If you see it there, then it’s something that’s gone wrong here. I don’t know if I can find it, but if you’re having issues someone else is.

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    228. 230 Mish says:

      I’ll check as soon as I can and get back to you.

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    229. 231 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

      [quote name=mb21]I’m assuming Ryno will buy an adequate amount of Cookie’s.[/quote]
      Like I need any of that. I have two cases.

      Starling is the type of OF Wilken loves. So is Springer. I could see either of them being the pick. Lindor is too raw.

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    230. 232 mb21 says:

      I don’t think it matters what or who Wilken loves. For one thing, he’s pretty bad at his job. 2) the Cubs aren’t going to allow them to spend the kind of money it would take to draft any of those guys anyway.

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    231. 233 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]I don’t think it matters what or who Wilken loves. For one thing, he’s pretty bad at his job. 2) the Cubs aren’t going to allow them to spend the kind of money it would take to draft any of those guys anyway.[/quote]
      I’m inclined to believe the latter statement, but how did Wilken get such a good rep if he sucks?

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    232. 234 mb21 says:

      I moved jtsunami’s post to the front page (new thread up): http://www.obstructedview.net/unobstructed-views/cubs/cubs-minor-league-progress.html

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    233. 235 Dr. Aneus Taint says:

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