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    159 Responses to “Cubs and Marlins already in progress”

    1. bubblesdachimp 1 bubblesdachimp says:

      Hyaden Simpson sucked ass tonight

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    2. mb21 2 mb21 says:

      bubblesdachimp wrote:

      Hyaden Simpson sucks ass

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    3. bubblesdachimp 3 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ mb21:

      yea he is really bad at baseball

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    4. mb21 4 mb21 says:

      Is he in Daytona? That’s about 3 levels too high. No idea why he was put in a league he’s simply not qualified to be in.

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    5. 5 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      For anyone who wants to watch baseball, Reds-Cards is the free MLB.tv game.

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    6. 6 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      It’s just that bad case of mono, MB. It stunted his transformation.

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    7. Mish 7 Mish says:

      How many pitches did the Cubs see in that last half? 4? 5? I’m pretty sure Byrd and Dempster made outs on first pitches.

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    8. Aisle424 8 Aisle424 says:

      Suburban kid wrote:

      As long as we’re discussing fake baseball, which two guys out the following bums would you pick to have as your Utility player and lone bench hitter in a deep league using conventional stats: Adam LaRoche, Angel Pagan, Omar Infante, Ryan Roberts, Zack Cozart, Logan Morrison, Alex Rios, Chase Headley, AJ Pierzynski.

      My leagues all use OBP, so I’m not sure who is good as far as average goes, but based on what I know of them, I’d probably go with LaRoche as Utility and Roberts as bench. Roberts should have both 2B and 3B eligibility for a little better flexibility. Cozart might be good if it’s a keeper league since SS are so hard to find.

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    9. Rice Cube 9 Rice Cube says:

      Bonifacio is Spanish for “really fucking fast” right?

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    10. 10 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Dempster never pays attention to baserunners.

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    11. 11 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      Bonifacio is Spanish for “(dying laughing)” right?

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    12. bubblesdachimp 12 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ mb21:

      This is the same reason it is so puzzling why Baez is in EXST

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    13. Rice Cube 13 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Thankfully they haven’t gotten home yet.

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    14. 14 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      It seems like the Cubs think his swing has some holes. I’d rather have him somewhere where he might be less challenged by the pitching doing that kind of work, personally. Let him get into a good groove with consistent, fundamentally sound mechanics vs. pitchers he can handle, then promote him.

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    15. Rice Cube 15 Rice Cube says:

      Johnson —> 30 pitches in 3 innings

      Something is amiss.

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    16. 16 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      SNAFU

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    17. bubblesdachimp 17 bubblesdachimp says:

      Following some of our Exst guys on twitter is a little frustrating

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    18. 18 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Johnson just coming right in and challenging Castro.

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    19. 19 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      From what DJ was saying, I gather that they are massive shitheads, i.e. 18-20 YO kids with a lot of money and free time.

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    20. bubblesdachimp 20 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I mean he is just murdering the ball there. Which is good. But i would have liked to see him at low A liek Lindor started

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    21. Rice Cube 21 Rice Cube says:

      Castro is fast too.

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    22. bubblesdachimp 22 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      100%
      Rock Y⚾L⚾ Shoulders ‏ @RockBigFly24 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
      Got so many tats, u cant even count’em up, in the shop every week, i cant seem to get enough…. With @javy23baez

      this is one of the tamer ones..

      But Baez, Gretzky, Rock, Gisantri, and Dunston seem to get around

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    23. 23 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      More average speed from Castro.

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    24. bubblesdachimp 24 bubblesdachimp says:

      I mean that is 7-7 right?

      Maybe he can steal 30-40?

      That would make up for some of the power that isnt there yet

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    25. 25 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Mountains grow faster than this team scores runs.

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    26. Rice Cube 26 Rice Cube says:

      Ian Stewart might be hurting a bit there.

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    27. Rice Cube 27 Rice Cube says:

      Gameday has the conversation between Z and Soto from across dugouts (dying laughing)

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    28. bubblesdachimp 28 bubblesdachimp says:

      i hope simpson didnt spend all his bonus in one place

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    29. bubblesdachimp 29 bubblesdachimp says:

      Dempster wants more money… His offspeed stuff seems dyanmite. The slider and split/change are quite good

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    30. mb21 30 mb21 says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      It’s not puzzling. He was drafted last year and played in like 3 games. There aren’t many high school draft picks who got such little playing time last year that are anywhere other than extended spring training. I could have told you Baez would start out there and I’d have said it at the end of August last year. I probably did say it. It wouldn’t make any sense to send him to a full season league at his age when he’s yet to play any considerable amount of time against professional athletes.

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    31. Rice Cube 31 Rice Cube says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:
      Shut you right up.

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    32. bubblesdachimp 32 bubblesdachimp says:

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

      What the fuck was he doing?

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    33. Rice Cube 33 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing) @ Cubs double play

      Infante —> dumb

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    34. Rice Cube 34 Rice Cube says:

      Byrd —-> off a cliff

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    35. bubblesdachimp 35 bubblesdachimp says:

      @ mb21:

      Same is true of Bundy, Lindor, Archie, Josh Bell Austin Hedges etc.

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    36. 36 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ bubblesdachimp:

      He could always submit himself to scientific studies of mono, seeing as he had the most debilitating case of mono ever recorded.

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    37. 37 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      Byrd —-> off a small, gradual decline

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    38. Rizzo the Rat 38 ACT says:

      Demp just pulled a Garza.

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    39. Rice Cube 39 Rice Cube says:

      FAIL

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    40. bubblesdachimp 40 bubblesdachimp says:

      Its a way of (L)ife

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    41. 41 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      DERP

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    42. GW 42 GW says:

      If I had to guess, I would speculate that John Cusak’s portrayal of Edgar Allen Poe is a lot like John Cusak.

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    43. Rice Cube 43 Rice Cube says:

      Even though it’s an error and technically an unearned run, shouldn’t it be an earned run since it was the pitcher’s dumb fault?

      Or is it already considered earned?

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    44. Rizzo the Rat 44 ACT says:

      Demp is still good at missing bats.

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    45. bubblesdachimp 45 bubblesdachimp says:

      Brett Jackson triples

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    46. bubblesdachimp 46 bubblesdachimp says:

      It is listed as an earned run

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    47. 47 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:
      Also good at missing gloves.

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    48. 48 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Holy meatball. Put it on a tee next time.

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    49. bubblesdachimp 49 bubblesdachimp says:

      Rizzo RBI single

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    50. Rice Cube 50 Rice Cube says:

      WHAT THE FUCK.

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    51. bubblesdachimp 51 bubblesdachimp says:

      Seemed like a bad time to take second

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    52. 52 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      TOOTBLAN

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    53. 53 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      (dying laughing)

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    54. Rice Cube 54 Rice Cube says:

      How’s this for a TOOTBLAN…

      Adrian Cardenas caught off 3B with the bases loaded for the second out.

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    55. 55 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      Still not as good as Koyie Hill getting picked off 3B for the final out. Fundamentals!

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    56. 56 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      DPORIANO

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    57. bubblesdachimp 57 bubblesdachimp says:

      Unreal

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    58. Rizzo the Rat 58 ACT says:

      I have to admit, it’s nice to have someone with some athleticism at third base for a change (Ramirez’ bat is sorely missed, of course).

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    59. Rizzo the Rat 59 ACT says:

      Aramis is also off to one of his patented slow-as-hell starts.

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    60. Rice Cube 60 Rice Cube says:

      Just think, if Dempster could play defense, he’d be in line for the win right now.

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    61. 61 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Kerry Wood ————-> Chicago. Cortisone shot for lingering shoulder issues from ST. Which is why he didn’t pitch much in ST, according to Hoyer. In other news, the sun will set in the west tonight.

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    62. 62 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:

      He’s just biding his time until it doesn’t count.

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    63. 63 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Ian Stewart is terrifically mediocre.

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    64. bubblesdachimp 64 bubblesdachimp says:

      Clevenger smoked that

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    65. Mish 65 Mish says:

      Clevenger can hit.

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    66. bubblesdachimp 66 bubblesdachimp says:

      Nice hit Bryan

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    67. 67 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Clevenger is in a good groove right now.

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    68. Rice Cube 68 Rice Cube says:

      Should LaHair have gone to 2B?

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    69. bubblesdachimp 69 bubblesdachimp says:

      Bubbles loves MLBTV.. 4 games at once is so awesome

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    70. Rice Cube 70 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing)

      Jesus Christ…TOOTBLAN again.

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    71. Rizzo the Rat 71 ACT says:

      Why would LaHair run? Ever?

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    72. Rice Cube 72 Rice Cube says:

      @ ACT:
      Because his IQ is 40.

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    73. Rizzo the Rat 73 ACT says:

      I’m guessing it’s a failed hit-and-run, actually.

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    74. 74 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Clevenger’s MLE’s, based on his career numbers: .262/.315/.352

      MLE’s based on his best MiLB season: .264/.318/.379

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    75. Rice Cube 75 Rice Cube says:

      @ ACT:
      Right, but it sounded like LaHair ran before Johnson even got into the pitching motion, so that was an easy CS there.

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    76. 76 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      This team’s baserunning is fucking horrendous.

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    77. 77 Louis says:

      So what is the Cubs TOOTBLAN count up to?

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    78. josh 78 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      Trying to impress his new manager, I’m guessing. That’s definitely not LaHair’s game. This is the problem with emphasizing aggressiveness over smarts.

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    79. Rice Cube 79 Rice Cube says:

      Dempster has 2 unearned runs. I think both should have been earned because it’s literally all his fault that they scored.

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    80. 80 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:

      2nd in as many games. Maybe next ST they have a baserunning game.

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    81. Rice Cube 81 Rice Cube says:

      Rusin is getting roughed up.

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    82. Aisle424 82 Aisle424 says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      Dempster has 2 unearned runs. I think both should have been earned because it’s literally all his fault that they scored.

      ERA is supposed to be a measure of a player’s pitching ability. It isn’t designed to measure whose fault it is that a run scored.

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    83. Mish 83 Mish says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Right this. It obscures the stat even further if one were to do that.

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    84. uncle dave 84 uncle dave says:

      Big time tactical move there by Sveum to double-switch. Is he really going to leave Dolis out there for multiple innings? Not like the bullpen is gassed or anything.

      Of course, any move that gets Byrd out of the game is probably well-considered. Is it too late to make him someone else’s Matt Lawton?

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    85. Rice Cube 85 Rice Cube says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Right, but if there’s an error with two outs and the pitcher shits the bed afterwards, none of those runs are “earned”. I guess I’m just saying that ERA sucks.

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    86. uncle dave 86 uncle dave says:

      I guess he is staying in. Never mind.

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    87. Mish 87 Mish says:

      (dying laughing)

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    88. 88 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      DERPDERPDERP

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    89. Mish 89 Mish says:

      The Cubs cant run, can’t hit for power, can’t get on base, and can’t field. (dying laughing).

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    90. 90 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Ah, the 1990′s Cubs. Back again.

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    91. Rice Cube 91 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mish:
      It’s a way of (L)ife.

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    92. Rizzo the Rat 92 ACT says:

      The Rangers are pretty good at scoring, I think.

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    93. Rice Cube 93 Rice Cube says:

      There goes the sculpture.

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    94. Aisle424 94 Aisle424 says:

      Well, we get to the The Thing

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    95. josh 95 josh says:

      Well, he didn’t walk him.

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    96. 96 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Just so, so, so bad.

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    97. 97 Louis says:

      So the Cubs best reliever looks like he won’t factor in this one

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    98. josh 98 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Ah the Dark Times are back.

      @ Mish:
      And can’t manage?

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    99. Rice Cube 99 Rice Cube says:

      @ Louis:
      They traded him to Cincinnati, so no.

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    100. Rice Cube 100 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I guess I should qualify that by saying that I would have made the trade, but thought it would be amusing to say it anyway.

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    101. 101 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Here comes the Rod Beck wannabe. I really dislike Heath Bell.

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    102. SVB 102 SkipVB says:

      MB: Thanks for pointing out how to post a photo. It’s at the Forum. I won’t post all the strange crap I see driving around here, but thought that one was pretty good.

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    103. Rizzo the Rat 103 ACT says:

      Moyer has gone 5.1 innings without allowing a run. Or a strikeout.

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    104. josh 104 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Got the job done, I guess.

      What was dempster’s error? I missed the first half of the game.

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    105. Rice Cube 105 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      He pulled a Garza.

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    106. SVB 106 SkipVB says:

      Re: Fake Baseball–
      My opponent in this weeks Head to Head has both starters in the Cinci/StL game. This is a bad night for a pitchers’ duel.

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    107. mb21 107 mb21 says:

      That was the first entire Cubs game I’ve watched since about this time last season. They looked as bad as they did then too. (dying laughing)

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    108. 109 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      So it goes.

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    109. GW 110 GW says:

      josh wrote:

      What was dempster’s error?

      re-signing with the cubs

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    110. Rizzo the Rat 111 ACT says:

      Moyer struck someone out! And swinging, no less. Someone actually tried to hit a Moyer pitch and failed!

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    111. Rice Cube 112 Rice Cube says:

      Those Blue Jays are feisty.

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    112. josh 113 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      I wonder if he’ll last the year or retire midyear.

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    113. Rice Cube 114 Rice Cube says:

      What’s sad in retrospect is that even if Dempster hadn’t made that error the Cubs still would have lost.

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    114. josh 115 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      Ugh. We’re not winning any gold gloves this year.

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    115. Rizzo the Rat 116 ACT says:

      @ josh:
      I’d honestly never bet against the guy. He’s the Engergizer Bunny of pitchers.

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    116. mb21 117 mb21 says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      Because his IQ is 40.

      Which is league average.

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    117. josh 118 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Not necessarily, that changes how many batters Demp faces and maybe puts more pressure on the Marlins to come from behind. It’s all academic. The Cubs have had nothing but what-if’s this season.

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    118. mb21 119 mb21 says:

      @ Louis:
      I think we forgot to keep count though it would be easy enough to figure it out. Give me a few minutes.

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    119. Rizzo the Rat 120 ACT says:

      @ mb21:
      Unfortunately, managers tend to be former players.

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    120. Rice Cube 121 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      It’s depressing but I’m pretty sure they would have lost anyway. It’s a way of (L)ife.

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    121. josh 122 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      His last couple of seasons where he actually pitched were poor, but sometimes guys have a surge after TJS.

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    122. Rizzo the Rat 123 ACT says:

      @ josh:
      He’s definitely not anything resembling a good pitcher at this point, but dammit, I hope he keeps it up until he’s 60. It’s just so doggone life-affirming having that guy around.

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    123. josh 124 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      If they were better, they might have won.

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    124. mb21 125 mb21 says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      Dempster has 2 unearned runs. I think both should have been earned because it’s literally all his fault that they scored.

      Not that it really matters, but it has to be considered unearned because it was an error that resulted in the runs. The distinction between UER and ER is how many runs scored as a result of errors and how many scored as a result of pitching. There really shouldn’t be the distinction. If the game was invented today, I can’t imagine we’d have ERA. I doubt we’d be using FIP and nor do I think we should, but I can’t imagine us calculating pitcher talent based on something as subjective as an error. Run Average is a better stat anyway.

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    125. Rice Cube 126 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      Oh, indeed.

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    126. mb21 127 mb21 says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Exactly. ERA was only meant to be a measure of performance based on the stats available at the time. Nothing more.

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    127. Rizzo the Rat 128 ACT says:

      Just a note about ERA:

      Ironically, ERA originated not in the goal of measuring a pitcher’s worth but to differentiate between runs caused by batting skill (hits) and lack of fielding skill (errors).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Chadwick_%28writer%29

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    128. mb21 129 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Yes, ERA is terrible in small samples. Over a large sample it’s actually not bad. Here’s a top 10 in ERA+ since 1981 (90% starts, 1500 IP)

      Roger Clemens
      Roy Halladay
      Randy Johnson
      Roy Oswalt
      Greg Maddux
      Tim Hudson
      Kevin Brown
      Bret Saberhagen
      John Tudor
      CC Sabathia

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    129. Rizzo the Rat 130 ACT says:

      God, leaving Moyer in in the 7th was incredibly stupid. I could have told the manager that before he made a mess of things.

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    130. mb21 131 mb21 says:

      @ GW:
      (dying laughing)

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    131. Rizzo the Rat 132 ACT says:

      @ mb21:
      Who?

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    132. mb21 133 mb21 says:

      @ ACT:
      Jamie Moyer

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    133. Berselius 134 Berselius says:

      Looks like sleeping through this game was a great decision.

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    134. Rizzo the Rat 135 ACT says:

      I admit, I had to look up John Tudor.

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    135. josh 136 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      King of England?

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    136. Rizzo the Rat 137 ACT says:

      @ josh:
      No, Methodist minister: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tudor_%28minister%29
      Not sure how he wound up on a baseball-related list.

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    137. josh 138 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      Yeah, I wouldn’t let batters get a third look at Moyer.

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    138. Rice Cube 139 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      It’s probably too late for that since they have like 30 years of data on him.

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    139. josh 140 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      There’s data, and then there’s seeing it. I think he’s effective simply because everyone else throws so hard, it screws up the batters’ timing.

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    140. Rice Cube 141 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      Think it’s like hitting a knuckleballer?

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    141. josh 142 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Yeah, basically. He uses a couple of different speeds to make up for the lack of knuckleball movement weirdness.

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    142. Rizzo the Rat 143 ACT says:

      Wow, Evan Longoria made 3 errors.

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    143. 145 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:
      They should bench him for Steve Clevenger.

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    144. Berselius 146 Berselius says:

      @ ACT:

      There’s no difference in replacing him with Jeff Baker.

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    145. GBTS 147 GBTS says:

      Are Chapman and Marshall both unavailable tonight? I question Dusty Baker’s bullpen usage.

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    146. Rizzo the Rat 148 ACT says:

      @ GBTS:
      He lets the save rule do the thinking for him.

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    147. GBTS 149 GBTS says:

      @ ACT:
      I mean I know he’s not allowed to use Marshall because he’s The Closer and it wasn’t a save, but there was still Chapman. Oh well. I guess his third lefty was probably the best choice there.

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    148. Rice Cube 150 Rice Cube says:

      @ GBTS:
      He was playing for the 13th inning. Obviously you don’t think far enough ahe—oh, wait.

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    149. 151 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ GBTS:

      You should go poop in the dugout where he usually stands.

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    150. dylanj 152 dylanj says:

      minor league update is ready for you when you want it in the morning MD. It includes a twitter chat with Mrs. Hayden Simpson so you know its extra great.

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    151. Suburban kid 154 Suburban kid says:

      Mish, I see you’re writing product reviews on Amazon now

      http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000KKNQBK/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk

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    152. Suburban kid 155 Suburban kid says:

      Answer: Shit, shit and more shit.
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    153. Mish 156 Mish says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      DO NOT PUT ON KNOB AND BOLLOCKS.

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    154. Suburban kid 157 Suburban kid says:

      Suburban kid wrote:

      .Question:

      What is the Cubs bullpen?

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