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  • Chicago Cubs @ Colorado Rockies, 7:40 pm

    I had wanted to start using Base Runs instead of using wRC to calculate runs, but I need to look things over before I publish them.  Hopefully tomorrow.

    Cubs wOBA wRC RS Rockies wOBA wRC RS
    Starlin Castro .332 .524 -0.03 Dexter Fowler .347 .580 -0.03
    Darwin Barney .293 .365 0.00 Jonathan Herrera .298 .383 0.02
    Marlon Byrd .338 .518 -0.01 Carlos Gonzalez .381 .670 0.00
    Aramis Ramirez .350 .544 -0.03 Troy Tulowitzki .382 .657 0.04
    Carlos Pena .378 .624 -0.01 Todd Helton .345 .513 -0.01
    Alfonso Soriano .339 .477 -0.10 Seth Smith .361 .552 0.03
    Tyler Colvin .318 .397 0.00 Ian Stewart .347 .490 -0.02
    Geovany Soto .362 .525 -0.01 Chris Iannetta .358 .513 0.00
    Matt Garza .175 .000 0.00 Ryan Dempster .175 .000 0.00
    4.0 -.2 4.4 .0

     

    Starting Pitcher IP/GS FIP
    Matt Garza 6.30 4.38
    Jhoulys Chacin 5.87 4.24
    Bullpens xFIP
    Cubs 4.02
    Rockies 3.75

    Score: Cubs 3.9, Rockies 4.2
    Win Probability: 41.5%


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    241 Responses to “Chicago Cubs @ Colorado Rockies, 7:40 pm”

    1. 1 Doogolas says:

      I think this is my first post in a game thread on this site.

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    2. 2 Rice Cube says:

      41.5% still seems a bit high. Are we assuming Garza can keep the ball in the park?

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    3. 3 mb21 says:

      I liked the quote from Rudy regarding Castro’s discipline. I don’t want them to take away his aggressiveness so I’m glad that’s not what they’re doing.

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    4. 4 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]41.5% still seems a bit high. Are we assuming Garza can keep the ball in the park?[/quote]Based on the 2 or 3 times I’ve seen Chacin start, I’m surprised the Rockies win probability isn’t 95%.

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    5. 5 Doogolas says:

      MB, what’s the quote on Castro’s discipline?

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    6. 6 GW says:

      The only pertinent question regarding simpson was how good wilken’s information was that another team coveted him. I think he was linked to the angels. If that’s the case, it’s not a bad pick. iirc they had tons of early picks, making it more likely that they would squeeze in a signability guy like Simpson. Not much sense in arguing it without the info that they had.

      In any case, that’s what you get with an unorthodox scout running your draft: some overdrafts and some steals. I have said before that I’d rather have ryno running our draft with a 20 million dollar budget.

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    7. 7 Doogolas says:

      Why would you want Ryno over Wilkins? Wilkins has a fabulous track record.

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    8. 8 dylanj says:

      me too md. the cubs know about improving his eye but arent trying to take away from his natural ability to put the bat on the ball.

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    9. 9 GW says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]Why would you want Ryno over Wilkins? Wilkins has a fabulous track record.[/quote]
      let’s not get carried away. also, have you seen ryno’s track record?

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    10. 10 dylanj says:

      i think dooglas thinks your talking about Sandberg GW

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    11. 11 Doogolas says:

      [quote name=GW]let’s not get carried away. also, have you seen ryno’s track record?[/quote]You mean Ryne Sandberg? I’m pretty sure he’s never drafted anyone. Ever.

      And I’m not getting carried away. Wilson has drafted:
      Roy Halladay
      Shannon Stewart
      Vernon Wells
      Billy Kotch

      Those are all off the top of my head. In recent history from the Cubs he has brought:
      Cashner
      Colvin
      Vitters
      Jay Jackson
      McNutt

      In four years that’s five guys that have made top 100 prospect lists.

      Those are all just off the top of my head. I’m quite certain there are more major leaguers and guys in the last few years he’s drafted that have made some nice prospect lists.

      Yeah if you’re not talking about Sandberg, then I have no idea who you mean. So some clarification there would be good.

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    12. 12 Doogolas says:

      Screw Barney.

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    13. 13 dylanj says:

      Chacin has a good fastball

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    14. 14 dylanj says:

      cubs wont score tonight.

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    15. 15 mb21 says:

      I’ll carry over from the last thread, but the only justification I can think of for picking Simpson was so the team could spend big money in later rounds. They passed on several players that would have been worth the investment so I don’t buy that. They then gave a buttload of money to Matt Szczur–a college player who is only in Low A a year after being drafted.

      Wilken has had 5 years now to rebuild a farm system and it hasn’t happened. The team has made only two significant trades in those 5 years while trading some veterans themselves. The farm system ranked in the bottom third 5 years after he took over. You look at the team right now, the only position player on the roster that he drafted was Tyler Colvin. Starlin Castro was scouted and signed by someone else. Geovany Soto was drafted before Wilken.

      5 years, 1 player and it’s a backup at that.

      As for pitchers, there’s not a much better list of players there either. Jeff Samardzija is on the roster and he sucks. James Russell ditto. Casey Coleman could be a solid back of the rotation pitcher at some point. Andrew Cashner has the highest ceiling and there’s still a lot of question as whether he’s good enough to start. After that is Jay Jackson who wasn’t very good in AAA, Chris Carpenter, reliever, and Trey McNutt in AA.

      The Cubs developed a lot more pitching talent with Stockstill as their Scouting Director than they have with Wilken. Not even close.

      I may have given Wilken the benefit of the doubt early on, but not anymore. 5 years and the farm system is in the same shape as it was when he took it over. That would seem to be grounds for firing.

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    16. 16 Rice Cube says:

      Nine pitch inning eh.

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    17. 17 GW says:

      my point is not about ryno (commenter, btw) per say, its about someone like him with a bigger budget. someone with enough unique opinions on players, but who errs towards the consensus bpa. someone who is less prone to fall in love with indie prospects and overdrafts.

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    18. 18 Rice Cube says:

      That’s pretty promising from Garza.

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    19. 19 mb21 says:

      [quote name=GW]The only pertinent question regarding simpson was how good wilken’s information was that another team coveted him. I think he was linked to the angels. If that’s the case, it’s not a bad pick. iirc they had tons of early picks, making it more likely that they would squeeze in a signability guy like Simpson. Not much sense in arguing it without the info that they had.

      In any case, that’s what you get with an unorthodox scout running your draft: some overdrafts and some steals. I have said before that I’d rather have ryno running our draft with a 20 million dollar budget.[/quote]I find it hard to believe. Simpson was absolutely shocked to find he had been picked higher than the 3rd or 4th round. He said teams were looking at him as 3rd, 4th or 5th rounder.

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    20. 20 mb21 says:

      [quote name=GW]my point is not about ryno (commenter, btw) per say, its about someone like him with a bigger budget. someone with enough unique opinions on players, but who errs towards the consensus bpa. someone who is less prone to fall in love with indie prospects and overdrafts.[/quote]Agreed. I’d hire anyone that told me they were going to take best player available as long as bpa was a player people have heard of. Safe bet that bpa is not someone that literally nobody in the business had heard of.

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    21. 21 GW says:

      [quote name=mb21]I find it hard to believe. Simpson was absolutely shocked to find he had been picked higher than the 3rd or 4th round. He said teams were looking at him as 3rd, 4th or 5th rounder.[/quote]
      yes, i know you do. it’s definitely plausible with the angels, though.

      btw, i agree with almost everything in comment #15

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    22. 22 mb21 says:

      [quote name=dylanj]me too md. the cubs know about improving his eye but arent trying to take away from his natural ability to put the bat on the ball.[/quote]As long as it’s something they’re working on, that’s fine with me. I’m glad it was brought up. Castro reportedly makes adjustments as well as anyone in the game so we’ll see if he’s started to do so when he’s not hitting so well.

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    23. 23 Rice Cube says:

      That 3-0 pitch was way high in the happy fun zone. I’m surprised CarGo didn’t swing at that.

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    24. 24 dylanj says:

      that was a sick change up by Garza

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    25. 25 dylanj says:

      i can see why Maddux was on Hendry to trade for Garza. Even though the results arent there yet this guy has some pretty wicked stuff.

      We still gave up too much though

      #idontlikeanything

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    26. 26 Mucker says:

      Poor Orioles. Looks like the novelties worn off for them. They have faced some damn good teams lately though.

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    27. 27 mb21 says:

      [quote name=GW]yes, i know you do. it’s definitely plausible with the angels, though.

      btw, i agree with almost everything in comment #15[/quote]I think it’s plausible some team was considering him that early, but I still don’t see how it matters. If the opinion of most is that he’s a 3rd to 5th rounder, don’t you just let some other team sign him that early if they want to? It’s fine to want someone or like them a lot more than other teams, but I don’t see any reason why the Cubs should be the team to make the reach for him.

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    28. 28 mb21 says:

      Yeah, that last inning by Garza was impressive.

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    29. 29 dylanj says:

      its about time pena did some hitting

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    30. 30 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Muck Muckintuck]Poor Orioles. Looks like the novelties worn off for them. They have faced some damn good teams lately though.[/quote]Are the Rangers still beating up on the Yankees?

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    31. 31 Mucker says:

      [quote name=mb21]Are the Rangers still beating up on the Yankees?[/quote]Yeah, 5-1 in 5th.

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    32. 32 mb21 says:

      It would be nice if the Cubs would keep things in the clubhouse like Byrd wants to: http://marlonbyrd.mlblogs.com/2011/04/16/415-what-happened-in-milwaukee/

      Can’t help but like Marlon Byrd.

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    33. 33 Mucker says:

      What’s the injury delay?

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    34. 34 Rice Cube says:

      Huh. Pena just killed an ump with a foul ball?

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    35. 35 dylanj says:

      carlos pena just murdered that guys leg

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    36. 36 Rice Cube says:

      Nice hit by Soriano.

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    37. 37 bubblesdachimp says:

      Carlos pena is not going to get along with the wrigley faithful. Can tell already

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    38. 38 Rice Cube says:

      (dying laughing) @ first-pitch DP ball. Way to go, Colvin.

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    39. 39 dylanj says:

      he isn’t getting along with me yet bubbles

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    40. 40 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Carlos pena is not going to get along with the wrigley faithful. Can tell already[/quote]

      I am one of the few that actually appreciate those 10-pitch ABs…too bad he can’t hit.

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    41. 41 mb21 says:

      Iowa, Tennessee and Peoria rained out tonight.

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    42. 42 mb21 says:

      [quote name=dylanj]he isn’t getting along with me yet bubbles[/quote](dying laughing)

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    43. 43 Mucker says:

      WTF? Tulo has 7 HRs already? (dying laughing)

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    44. 44 mb21 says:

      22 home runs for Tulo since September

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    45. 45 mb21 says:

      As much as I liked Rudy’s comment about Castro, Quade’s comment scared me. I couldn’t tell if he was serious or not. I’m hoping not.

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    46. 46 Rice Cube says:

      Ruh roh.

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    47. 47 bubblesdachimp says:

      Brett Wallach did not have good control tonigth

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    48. 48 bubblesdachimp says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]I am one of the few that actually appreciate those 10-pitch ABs…too bad he can’t hit.[/quote]
      I love them too. But one time it would be nice if he could hit a fucking double. Or a homerun

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    49. 49 Xoomwaffle says:

      [quote name=mb21]As much as I liked Rudy’s comment about Castro, Quade’s comment scared me. I couldn’t tell if he was serious or not. I’m hoping not.[/quote]

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    50. 50 Rice Cube says:

      Double or inside-the-park grand slam?

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    51. 51 dylanj says:

      wow @ marlon Byrd

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    52. 52 dylanj says:

      amazing

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    53. 53 ZappBrannigan says:

      Well they did their best

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    54. 54 ZappBrannigan says:

      so much fail

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    55. 55 Rice Cube says:

      Scored a triple and an error on Castro.

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    56. 56 Xoomwaffle says:

      [quote name=ZappBrannigan]Well they did their best[/quote]
      When do they get orange slices?

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    57. 57 bubblesdachimp says:

      What happened?

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    58. 58 bubblesdachimp says:

      So barlon byrd just turned another single into a triple?

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    59. 59 dylanj says:

      i still can’t believe byrd didnt get to that

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    60. 60 bubblesdachimp says:

      Fucking Matt Garza

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    61. 61 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=dylanj]i still can’t believe byrd didnt get to that[/quote]
      I think he took a bad route. He looked like he slowed down.

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    62. 62 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ZappBrannigan]so much fail[/quote]What happened

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    63. 63 mb21 says:

      Walk their replacement level hitter to face Carlos Gonzalez.

      See what happens

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    64. 64 dylanj says:

      byrd took a shitty route to a not so hard ball in CF. Instead of a SAC and being down 1-0 he missed the catch and its now 4-0

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    65. 66 dylanj says:

      im still pissed we lost Larry to the yankees

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    66. 67 Mucker says:

      The Cubs fucking suck.

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    67. 68 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_04_15_chnmlb_colmlb_1&mode=gameday

      The video of that last failplay is up now.[/quote]I couldn’t tell is Byrd misjudged it or not from that angle. The Rockies announcers said he semi-misjudged it. Regardless, that was a hanging slider and Garza was lucky it didn’t leave the yard.

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    68. 69 Doogolas says:

      Can we get poem about how much Garza sucks ass?

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    69. 70 mb21 says:

      [quote name=dylanj]im still pissed we lost Larry to the yankees[/quote]I’d feel a lot better about Garza if Rothschild was the pitching coach.

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    70. 71 Doogolas says:

      He is without question my least favorite Cub in history.

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    71. 72 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]Can we get poem about how much Garza sucks ass?[/quote]
      A hanging slider
      Out of the reach of the Byrd
      Matt Garza sucks ass

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    72. 73 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]I couldn’t tell is Byrd misjudged it or not from that angle. The Rockies announcers said he semi-misjudged it. Regardless, that was a hanging slider and Garza was lucky it didn’t leave the yard.[/quote]
      I think Byrd changed direction at least once on his way to the ball.

      A better throw from Castro would’ve gotten the guy at third I thought.

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    73. 74 ZappBrannigan says:

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    74. 75 Mish says:

      Just got here. What’d I miss?

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    75. 76 Doogolas says:

      At least we’e made Chacine throw 31 pitches. *eyeroll*

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    76. 77 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mish]Just got here. What’d I miss?[/quote]http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_04_15_chnmlb_colmlb_1&mode=gameday

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    77. 78 Doogolas says:

      Boooooooooooooooooooo

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    78. 79 Rice Cube says:

      That time it was a good play by Byrd.

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    79. 80 mb21 says:

      I know Garza’s FIP is all sparkly, but he’s gotten hit harder than any Cubs starting pitcher so far this season and it’s not particularly close.

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    80. 81 Mish says:

      Thanks. Game day doesn’t work on an iPad, but thankfully I live in Chicago (dying laughing)

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    81. 82 mb21 says:

      The Rockies color announcer was just talking about Wells and Cashner and he stated the obvious, which I don’t think the Cubs media has done just yet. They’re not throwing the ball for a couple week at which point it’s going to take 4 weeks to get back to the big leagues. No setbacks and it’s 6 weeks missed for each player. He then mentioned Ortiz would probably be up at some point. (dying laughing)

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    82. 83 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Mish]Thanks. Game day doesn’t work on an iPad, but thankfully I live in Chicago (dying laughing)[/quote]Why doesn’t Gameday work on the ipad?

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    83. 84 Rice Cube says:

      Darwin Barney got into some Kryptonite it seems.

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    84. 85 Mucker says:

      Anyone think Pena will have a HR in April?

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    85. 86 Xoomwaffle says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]Darwin Barney got into some Kryptonite it seems.[/quote]
      Well, he’s clearly no Sam Fuld…

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    86. 87 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Muck Muckintuck]Anyone think Pena will have a HR in April?[/quote]
      It would be nice if he were the May version of April Kosuke considering who we have coming up.

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    87. 88 Horny Goat says:

      Pena got a hit?

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    88. 89 cubsfan4life says:

      [quote name=mb21]Why doesn’t Gameday work on the ipad?[/quote]
      Because it runs in a plugin. I think he should shell out money for MLB AtBat app

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    89. 90 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Horny Goat]Pena got a hit?[/quote]Savor it

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    90. 91 cubsfan4life says:

      [quote name=Muck Muckintuck]Anyone think Pena will have a HR in April?[/quote]Before Charles Darwin Barney does? No chance..(dying laughing)

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    91. 92 mb21 says:

      [quote name=cubsfan4life]Because it runs in a plugin. I think he should shell out money for MLB AtBat app[/quote]Isn’t that only $10 or something?

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    92. 93 Mucker says:

      [quote name=mb21]Savor it[/quote]The best is yet to come?

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    93. 94 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=mb21]Savor it[/quote]
      savoring on my DVR. Do.Not.Delete.

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    94. 95 mb21 says:

      [quote name=cubsfan4life]Before Charles Darwin Barney Fife does? No chance..(dying laughing)[/quote].

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    95. 96 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Muck Muckintuck]The best is yet to come?[/quote]I certainly hope it is. I’d hate to think that I’m 36 years old and have seen the best Cubs baseball in my life. That’s despressing.

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    96. 97 cubsfan4life says:

      [quote name=mb21]Isn’t that only $10 or something?[/quote]
      14.99 now..

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    97. 98 Doogolas says:

      On the upside, at least we aren’t the Red Sox.

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    98. 99 Mucker says:

      [quote name=mb21]I certainly hope it is. I’d hate to think that I’m 36 years old and have seen the best Cubs baseball in my life. That’s despressing.[/quote]It is depressing. It’s very depressing to know that they will never win a WS. 103 years? Fuck this team.

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    99. 100 cubsfan4life says:

      I think the Rockies can rest all their regulars now.

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    100. 101 mb21 says:

      [quote name=cubsfan4life]I think the Rockies can rest all their regulars now.[/quote]For the rest of the weekend?

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    101. 102 cubsfan4life says:

      [quote name=Muck Muckintuck]It is depressing. It’s very depressing to know that they will never win a WS. 103 years? Fuck this team.[/quote]It’s only Year 2 though. Let’s see what happens (dying laughing)

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    102. 103 Mish says:

      [quote name=mb21]Isn’t that only $10 or something?[/quote]It’s $15 and it’s a rich app experience. But I bought it because I have MLB.tv so I can stream games to my iPad. As in just watched Kyle Farnsworth get a one out, three run save. (dying laughing)

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    103. 104 cubsfan4life says:

      [quote name=mb21]For the rest of the weekend?[/quote]That too, it just might work!

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    104. 105 Doogolas says:

      The thing that pisses me off more than anything so far is how good his FIP is. Even though his LD% is nearing 50%.

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    105. 106 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]On the upside, at least we aren’t the Red Sox.[/quote]
      I’d take it if the Cubs were the red sox.

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    106. 107 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]The thing that pisses me off more than anything so far is how good his FIP is. Even though his LD% is nearing 50%.[/quote]

      He has really good strikeout stuff, but he’s made enough mistakes that you kind of forget about the good.

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    107. 108 Mucker says:

      [quote name=cubsfan4life]It’s only Year 2 though. Let’s see what happens (dying laughing)[/quote](dying laughing)

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    108. 109 Doogolas says:

      His FIP is managing to approach 0. But when you give up 25 liners per game, you still suck.

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    109. 110 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]His FIP is managing to approach 0. But when you give up 25 liners per game, you still suck.[/quote]
      But it was the greatest trade in all Cubs history.

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    110. 111 Doogolas says:

      Can we call up BJax yet?

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    111. 112 Doogolas says:

      Yay, we’re hitting Soto 8th. Now his hits can be as useless as possible!

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    112. 113 cubsfan4life says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]His FIP is managing to approach 0. But when you give up 25 liners per game, you still suck.[/quote]
      Good point, when you give up a gazillion hard hit liners your FIP can be -1000 and you still suck.

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    113. 114 Doogolas says:

      If I’m a pitching coach and there a sac bunt attempt early tell my guy to lob it.

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    114. 115 Doogolas says:

      Wow that strike was bS>

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    115. 116 Rice Cube says:

      I read “The Book” re: pitcher bunts but I still feel like they might as well just swing away with one out.

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    116. 117 Horny Goat says:

      wtf? at least try to hit the ball. jesus christ

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    117. 118 Doogolas says:

      That strike two just fucked us. PitchFX said that was the worst pitch of the entire AB. Both low and away.

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    118. 119 Doogolas says:

      This game is pissing me off.

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    119. 120 cubsfan4life says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]This Season is pissing me off.[/quote]
      Fixed

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    120. 121 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]This franchise is pissing me off.[/quote]
      fify

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    121. 122 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]This CENTURY OF FAIL is pissing me off.[/quote]
      /emphasis’d

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    122. 123 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]This last 100 yearsis pissing me off.[/quote]
      (dying laughing)

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    123. 124 Rice Cube says:

      He’s missing high. He’s really lucky everything’s staying in the park.

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    124. 125 Horny Goat says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]This life is pissing me off.[/quote]

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    125. 126 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]He’s missing high. He’s really lucky everything’s staying in the park.[/quote]AFter he gives up 4 home runs in some games his FIP will look more like it should.

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    126. 127 Mish says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]This existence of time and space is pissing me off.[/quote] .

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    127. 128 mb21 says:

      I guess what I’ve seen with Garza so far is that he makes a lot of good pitches, but when he misses, he’s really missed.

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    128. 129 cubsfan4life says:

      [quote name=Horny Goat]This Planet is pissing me off.[/quote]
      ***

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    129. 130 mb21 says:

      I think Jackson will be sometime in June. He’ll play some RF and they’ll trade Byrd sometime in July to a contender. He’ll then take over CF.

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    130. 131 mb21 says:

      It’s like the last 2 at-bats. 3-0 on Tulo and then the 3-1 pitch to him was perfect. 3-0 to Helton now. You’re going to get killed if you fall behind like this.

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    131. 132 ZappBrannigan says:

      No way he should have scored on that

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    132. 133 Horny Goat says:

      you know what pisses me off? a lotta people say Zambrano loses his concentration, gets frustrated, etc.. when in fact almost every pitcher does. They just all don’t wear it on their sleeve like Big Z does.

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    133. 134 mb21 says:

      Line drive number 57 tonight.

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    134. 135 mb21 says:

      [quote name=ZappBrannigan]No way he should have scored on that[/quote]Did Byrd take a few steps after he ran it down? I know Castro had a little trouble with it, but he wasn’t going to throw him out if he came up clean.

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    135. 136 ZappBrannigan says:

      I think Byrd’s throw was a bit off the mark… if it had been a clean exchange they would’ve had a nice shot at him at home

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    136. 137 mb21 says:

      The Cubs should sign Charlie Sheen for his #winning ways.

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    137. 138 Doogolas says:

      (dying laughing)Garza.

      That was on Byrd too. The throw was too low. To get him Castro was gonna need a perfect throw near his head so he could immediately catch, crowhop and throw all in one motion.

      Maybe if Garza didn’t suck it wouldn’t be an issue.

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    138. 139 mb21 says:

      Yeah, that was a single that drove in a guy from 1st base. Helton moved to 2nd on the throw.

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    139. 140 mb21 says:

      No worries. Barney will hit a 6-run home run here.

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    140. 141 Rice Cube says:

      It must be nice to have a CF with range.

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    141. 142 Doogolas says:

      Yeah, if Fowler didn’t move in 2 steps that was a routine FB out.

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    142. 143 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=mb21]No worries. Barney will hit a 6-run home run here.[/quote]

      This isn’t cricket, MB.

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    143. 144 Doogolas says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]It must be nice to have a CF with range.[/quote]
      Byrd was one of the best defensive CF in baseball last year.

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    144. 145 Doogolas says:

      Barney-Byrd

      Worst 2-3 combo in baseball?

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    145. 146 Doogolas says:

      Another useless two out hit. Yay.

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    146. 147 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]Barney-Byrd

      Worst 2-3 combo in baseball?[/quote]
      Lineup construction fail.

      I’m aware that Byrd was good in 2010. Last year was pretty much the best year of his career. I think you guys might call this year a “regression to the mean” or whatever you fancy math people say.

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    147. 148 Doogolas says:

      Actually last year was the worst year for him offensively in the last 3.

      Byrd is a solid hitter, but he’s not a #3 hitter. Not even a little bit.

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    148. 149 Mish says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]Byrd was one of the best defensive CF in baseball last year.[/quote]
      Yeah but one year samples aren’t great. Based on his career he’s about average. His metrics were as poor in 09 as they were good last year.

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    149. 150 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mish]Yeah but one year samples aren’t great. Based on his career he’s about average. His metrics were as poor in 09 as they were good last year.[/quote]
      I just checked out the UZR numbers on FanGraphs, they kind of fly all over the place.

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    150. 151 Doogolas says:

      Well he did say he lost 5-10 pounds in preparation for playing CF every day.

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    151. 152 Doogolas says:

      It’d be nice if Pena would show some power. We are at Coors.

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    152. 153 Mish says:

      Yeah I don’t really know if that causes a 17 run swing in UZR

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    153. 154 Mish says:

      I think the point is that Byrd is a perfectly corpulent player but he’s probably not going to be as good as he was last year.

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    154. 155 Mish says:

      Corpulent? Fucking iPad. I wanted cromulent.

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    155. 156 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mish]I think the point is that Byrd is a perfectly corpulent player but he’s probably not going to be as good as he was last year.[/quote]
      It would’ve been nice if the fire sale had included Byrd while he had surplus value, but that’s all in the past…

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    156. 157 Doogolas says:

      Neither do I. But I think it’s at least worth mention.

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    157. 158 Mish says:

      Given his contract though, he could and should definitely be moved.

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    158. 159 Mish says:

      Should the Cubs try to trade with the Twins? They seem to like trading their prospects for relievers.

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    159. 160 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mish]Given his contract though, he could and should definitely be moved.[/quote]
      Don’t you think he needs to suck a bit more first so the Cubs fans won’t riot?

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    160. 161 Doogolas says:

      So good to know we have Garza to suck for us instead of Gorzo.

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    161. 162 Horny Goat says:

      at least the Reds lost (dying laughing)

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    162. 163 Doogolas says:

      Also, the Red Sox are still worse than us.

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    163. 164 Doogolas says:

      Chacin is about to CGSHO us.

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    164. 165 Mish says:

      The Red Sox. Have a worse record, is as far as I’ll go. (dying laughing)

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    165. 166 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mish]The Red Sox. Have a worse record, is as far as I’ll go. (dying laughing)[/quote]

      Mish —-> Yoda

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    166. 167 bubblesdachimp says:

      Colvin is getting shifted?

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    167. 168 Doogolas says:

      Nah, the Red Sox have legitimately sucked. There is a reason they’re 2-10. They’ve been awful.

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    168. 169 Mish says:

      No I mean their true talent far exceeds the cubs.

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    169. 170 Horny Goat says:

      this is not a way of life.

      HG out, fuckfaces!

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    170. 171 AndCounting says:

      Cubs baseball is on the air.

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    171. 172 Rice Cube says:

      Yay! Samardzija is in!

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    172. 173 Rice Cube says:

      Samardzija was bodysnatched! This does not happen!

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    173. 174 ZappBrannigan says:

      Nothing says throwing in the towel like putting Samardzija in

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    174. 175 Rice Cube says:

      WTF Samardzija.

      This is the most excited I’ve been all game.

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    175. 176 Doogolas says:

      Shark >>>>>>>>> Garza.

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    176. 177 AndCounting says:

      Samardzija owns.

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    177. 178 Doogolas says:

      How long until Garza is in the bullpen? Over/under June 1st?

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    178. 179 Rice Cube says:

      I think CarGo helped him out a bit with that last strikeout, but still, very impressive.

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    179. 180 Doogolas says:

      I want Shark to finish the game and then start Tuesday. Not cause he’ll be good. But at least then I don’t have to see Russell.

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    180. 181 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Matt Garza & Marlon Byrd are not good at sports.

      Darwin Barney is who Dennis Green thought he was.

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    181. 182 Rice Cube says:

      Russell in the 8th. Maybe he won’t start.

      Oh shit, he’s starting on Tuesday? No wonder my tickets were only a dollar.

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    182. 183 Rice Cube says:

      Barney with the 16-run walk. SUPER.

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    183. 184 Rice Cube says:

      Byrd with the first-pitch out. Nice.

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    184. 185 Doogolas says:

      I really am upset about Byrd hitting in the three spot. It’s just stupid on every level. Sabermetrics say it’s stupid. Traditional lineups say it’s stupid. It’s just so so so stupid.

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    185. 186 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]I really am upset about Byrd hitting in the three spot. It’s just stupid on every level. Sabermetrics say it’s stupid. Traditional lineups say it’s stupid. It’s just so so so stupid.[/quote]There are horny sailors in Thai whorehouses that are more patient than Marlon Byrd.

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    186. 187 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]There are horny sailors in Thai whorehouses that are more patient than Marlon Byrd.[/quote]
      Dey pray for onry five dorrar!

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    187. 188 Doogolas says:

      Yes. There are. God he pisses me off so much. Why must he hit higher than Soto and Soriano?

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    188. 189 Rice Cube says:

      James Russell = good LOOGY?

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    189. 190 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]Yes. There are. God he pisses me off so much. Why must he hit higher than Soto and Soriano?[/quote]Gamer. Done deal, sealed.

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    190. 191 AndCounting says:

      This game really isn’t as close at the score would indicate. (dying laughing)

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    191. 192 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]This game really isn’t as close at the score would indicate. (dying laughing)[/quote]
      Garza only made one major mistake that Lady Luck couldn’t override. It could’ve been way worse though.

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    192. 193 Steve Swisher says:

      I really enjoyed the analysis of Tim Wilken earlier in the thread. I know there’s a lot of Ricketts haters out there, but I for one think he’s a smart guy who will do the right thing. And given the lack of studs the minor-league system has produced, I have to think Ricketts sees that and realizes what’s up.

      It really is astounding that the team hasn’t produced a stud position player since, what, Mark Grace? Am I missing someone? (I’m not ready to put Castro in Cooperstown just yet.)

      My own thought: Ricketts knows he’s new and was willing to let Hendry work for a year to see what happened (see what I did there?). But with the team struggling, and with Garza looking… unspectacular, I think this trade will be the proverbial last straw for Hendry.

      I’m thinking Ricketts will bring in his own guy, and augment it with someone who will do statistical analysis (i.e., Ari Kaplan).

      PS: What the hell is up with Colvin? He has completely regressed.

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    193. 194 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I wouldn’t trust Ricketts to build a prefab doghouse with the aid of the entire Ask This Old House crew. That slicked-headed huckster could fuck up a wet dream.

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    194. 195 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      BTW, Ari Kaplan is a fucking joke. His statistical analysis is limited to meaningless samples defined by selective endpoints.

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    195. 196 Steve Swisher says:

      Ok, that’s funny. And I like funny.

      /Fuck, Canucks just scored./

      But I haven’t seen any reason to think he’s incompetent. I think he’s a smart guy who cares about the team. It’s easy to hate, but you can’t turn around a ship that big in a day.

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I wouldn’t trust Ricketts to build a prefab doghouse with the aid of the entire Ask This Old House crew. That slicked-headed huckster could fuck up a wet dream.[/quote]

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    196. 197 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Haven’t seen a reason? Then you haven’t been looking. This org has been stuck on stupid since Ricketts took control. It began with the refusal to trade Harden when they had the chance, and it continues to this very day.

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    197. 198 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Don’t look now, but Ramirez is off to one helluva start.

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    198. 199 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Don’t look now, but Ramirez is off to one helluva start.[/quote]

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    199. 200 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Don’t look now, but Ramirez is off to one helluva start.[/quote]Yeah, he’s been right on the pitch in almost every AB I’ve seen from him this year. I’d love to see him stay healthy and have a big year in what is likely his last year as a Cub. Always been one of my favorite players.

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    200. 201 bubblesdachimp says:

      What do yall think about trevor bauer? He has risen quite a bit. Higher than purke on lots of boards

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    201. 202 Doogolas says:

      [quote name=Joe Mama Besser]I really enjoyed the analysis of Tim Wilken earlier in the thread. I know there’s a lot of Ricketts haters out there, but I for one think he’s a smart guy who will do the right thing. And given the lack of studs the minor-league system has produced, I have to think Ricketts sees that and realizes what’s up.

      It really is astounding that the team hasn’t produced a stud position player since, what, Mark Grace? Am I missing someone? (I’m not ready to put Castro in Cooperstown just yet.)

      My own thought: Ricketts knows he’s new and was willing to let Hendry work for a year to see what happened (see what I did there?). But with the team struggling, and with Garza looking… unspectacular, I think this trade will be the proverbial last straw for Hendry.

      I’m thinking Ricketts will bring in his own guy, and augment it with someone who will do statistical analysis (i.e., Ari Kaplan).

      PS: What the hell is up with Colvin? He has completely regressed.[/quote]Geovany Soto says “Hi. I’m one of the three best hitting catchers in the MLB. Nice to meet you.”

      And Castro, meanwhile, says “Yo. I’m pretty damn fly.”

      Since Wilken has taken over, the system has gotten way better, way faster. But you are right, not much in the way of home grown studs in these parts.

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    202. 203 bubblesdachimp says:

      Is ramirezs option team player or mutual

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    203. 204 Rice Cube says:

      http://espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=310415127

      Check out how few pitches the top of the order took. Chacin didn’t have to work very hard.

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    204. 205 cwolf says:

      [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Is ramirezs option team player or mutual[/quote]Team option, bubbles. For $14M I believe with a $2M buyout if the Cubs don’t exercise the option.

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    205. 206 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Is ramirezs option team player or mutual[/quote]

      I think it’s mutual bubbles. The team picks up its half, and then Ramirez has to agree to stay. If the team doesn’t pick up, it’s a $2MM buyout. If Ramirez decides to walk, I don’t think he’s owed a thing.

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    206. 207 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=cwolf]Team option, bubbles. For $14M I believe with a $2M buyout if the Cubs don’t exercise the option.[/quote]

      cwolf is most likely right but I seem to recall reading that Rami can walk if he wants to test free agency.

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    207. 208 Doogolas says:

      Am I the only person that will be super sad to see Rammy go?

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    208. 209 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]cwolf is most likely right but I seem to recall reading that Rami can walk if he wants to test free agency.[/quote]I just looked on Cot’s and it is a club option but for $16M. It also says Aramis can void the 2012 option but then the $2M buyout is waived. That seems kinda weird to me as it implies it almost is a mutual thing. I doubt Ramirez would turn the the $16M if the Cubs did want to exercise the option.

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    209. 210 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]Am I the only person that will be super sad to see Rammy go?[/quote]I’d be very sad also. But it’s probably going to happen.

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    210. 211 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=cwolf]I just looked on Cot’s and it is a club option but for $16M. It also says Aramis can void the 2012 option but then the $2M buyout is waived. That seems kinda weird to me as it implies it almost is a mutual thing. I doubt Ramirez would turn the the $16M if the Cubs did want to exercise the option.[/quote]
      Maybe if his agent believed that he could get a 3 or 4 year deal for more total money than the $16M + a 2 or 3 year deal (or worse) after another year of aging, he would turn it down. But it would be awfully ballsy.

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    211. 212 Doogolas says:

      He might turn it down for 3 years 36 mil. Hopefully from us. :(

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    212. 213 bubblesdachimp says:

      I love him. If he has a good year I wanna pick it up. We could always move him to first if vitters is ready and we fail on pujols or grimmace

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    213. 214 Doogolas says:

      I personally want no part of Pujols or fatty.

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    214. 215 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]He might turn it down for 3 years 36 mil. Hopefully from us. :( [/quote]That might work and I wouldn’t mind seeing it. I wasn’t aware of that thing about him being able to void the option until I just checked Cot’s. Makes it seem like it really isn’t strictly a team option like I thought.

      The Cubs have very few players under contract after 2012 – maybe just Soriano (but I didn’t look that closely) – so after next year this team is going to look a lot different than what we are used to. That is probably a good thing but I’m going to miss some of these players esp. Z and Ramirez.

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    215. 216 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]Am I the only person that will be super sad to see Rammy go?[/quote]Meh. He’s old and breaky. Love him, loved the deal, but let’s not Gaetti him. I’d rather see Marquez Smith or Vitters get a shot at the job. Let Rammy go quietly into that good night.

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    216. 217 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      [quote name=cwolf]That might work and I wouldn’t mind seeing it. I wasn’t aware of that thing about him being able to void the option until I just checked Cot’s. Makes it seem like it really isn’t strictly a team option like I thought.

      The Cubs have very few players under contract after 2012 – maybe just Soriano (but I didn’t look that closely) – so after next year this team is going to look a lot different than what we are used to. That is probably a good thing but I’m going to miss some of these players esp. Z and Ramirez.[/quote]

      the Cubs 2011 payroll is $134,004,000. That drops radically over the next two seasons, which happen to be just before the debt needs to be refinanced.

      http://ivychat.blogspot.com/2011/04/cutting-spending.html

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    217. 218 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Meh. He’s old and breaky. Love him, loved the deal, but let’s not Gaetti him. I’d rather see Marquez Smith or Vitters get a shot at the job. Let Rammy go quietly into that good night.[/quote]I don’t know, MO. The breaky part is a real valid point and getting Smith and/or Vitters a shot is important for a team that most likely isn’t going to contend but I still wouldn’t mind a reasonable 3 year deal for Aramis. Probably reacting more with my heart than brain though. He’d be 36 at the end of a 3 year contract but I can still see him being a good hitter if (and I realize that’s a huge if) healthy. Gaetti was already 40 when the Cubs got him.

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    218. 219 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]http://ivychat.blogspot.com/2011/04/cutting-spending.html[/quote]I read that when I saw your link earlier, MO. Well done and good stuff to think about although we also have to remember we (including Chuck who is pretty savvy about these things) don’t know the entire picture behind the Cub and Ricketts financials. In any event, I can’t see the payroll dropping so radically that the Cubs won’t be signing any fairly large contracts. If it does drop that drastically, it’s going to kill their attendance by putting out a non-contending team AND not having any star-type players.

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    219. 220 Rice Cube says:

      [quote name=cwolf]I don’t know, MO. The breaky part is a real valid point and getting Smith and/or Vitters a shot is important for a team that most likely isn’t going to contend but I still wouldn’t mind a reasonable 3 year deal for Aramis. Probably reacting more with my heart than brain though. He’d be 36 at the end of a 3 year contract but I can still see him being a good hitter if (and I realize that’s a huge if) healthy. Gaetti was already 40 when the Cubs got him.[/quote]
      If you could convince Rami to stay and play 1B (and this is assuming the Cubs cheap out and don’t snag Fielder or Pujols) I think that might be worthwhile.

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    220. 221 cwolf says:

      [quote name=Rice Cube]If you could convince Rami to stay and play 1B (and this is assuming the Cubs cheap out and don’t snag Fielder or Pujols) I think that might be worthwhile.[/quote]It would be interesting to see, RC. Although we keep hearing Vitters might be the more likely candidate to play 1st. Maybe Aramis could just stay at 3rd – it’s not like he has any range to lose as he ages anyway. (dying laughing)

      I’m thinking the issues raised in the link MO provided would affect going after Pujols or Fielder more than a Ramirez new deal (or other similar possibilities). Either of those guys is going to require a materially larger $$ commitment. But I really don’t have a clue what they will do.

      See What Happens. (dying laughing)

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    221. 222 Suburban kid says:

      I think a TV show about the inner workings of the Benny show and private lives of the cast would be more interesting than a movie. I would set the series in 1950 with jack getting ready for his first forays into television, while still being able to focus on his radio cast and show as well. I would have a disclaimer at the beginning that would state the show was based on the lives of Benny and his cast but some events would be time shifted for dramatic purposes. Story arcs focusing on Mary’s “Mike fright,” and “Mel Blanc’s nearly fatal auto accident would be great to have woven into the first couple of seasons, even though in reality Mel’s accident happened a decade later. The turmoil caused by Phil leaving the show, and cast reaction to Phil’s “drive by” 2 minute performances could be an ongoing undercurrent in the first few seasons. Stories about the writing sessions with the four writers and Jack could be fun, and the drama of deciding which of the radio writers and cast would make the jump into television and which folks wouldn’t make the cut could be entertaining.

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    222. 223 bubblesdachimp says:

      Jae Hoon Ha is starting to intrigue me.

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    223. 224 mb21 says:

      [quote name=AndCounting]This game really isn’t as close at the score would indicate. (dying laughing)[/quote]I know. Cubs 13, Rockies 5. Right?

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    224. 225 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=mb21]I know. Cubs 13, Rockies 5. Right?[/quote]
      The Cubs kick ass in imaginary scores.

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    225. 226 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]The Cubs kick ass in imaginary scores.[/quote]they’re also 12-1 in the imaginary standings.

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    226. 227 Aisle424 says:

      I just don’t understand how Koyie Hill with an iWAR of 11 can be on the bench. And don’t get me started on Samardzija with his iFIP of 1.12 being in the bullpen.

      Does Ari Kaplan know nothing of imaginary numbers? What kind of mathmetician is he?

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    227. 228 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=mb21]they’re also 12-1 in the imaginary standings.[/quote]
      They should be 13-0 if not for bad imaginary luck.

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    228. 229 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]They should be 13-0 if not for bad imaginary luck.[/quote]I am still very imaginary angry at that play that cost us the imaginary win.

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    229. 230 Aisle424 says:

      [quote name=mb21]I am still very imaginary angry at that play that cost us the imaginary win.[/quote]
      Fucking Zambrano! (Some things are the same in imaginary land)

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    230. 231 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Aisle424]Fucking Zambrano! (Some things are the same in imaginary land)[/quote]That’s how you get confused between the two.

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    231. 232 mb21 says:

      The imaginary Statue of Liberty is being put on real stamps. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13101814

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    232. 233 Berselius says:

      At least Garza didn’t give up any HRs

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    233. 234 Mucker says:

      It’s only one game. We can still make the playoffs. We just have to get rid of the Lazy Latins Ramirez and Soriano and that head case Zambrano, then we’ll be fine.

      BCB’d

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    234. 235 Doogolas says:

      Actually, if Garza keeps pitching how he has been, his FIP will remain very shiny. Even his xFIP is only 1.95 right now, because his FB% is in the low 20′s, everything is a line drive and ground ball. Which means he will continue to suck, but he’ll do so while his advanced stats say he is God.

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    235. 236 Mucker says:

      [quote name=Doogolas]Actually, if Garza keeps pitching how he has been, his FIP will remain very shiny. Even his xFIP is only 1.95 right now, because his FB% is in the low 20′s, everything is a line drive and ground ball. Which means he will continue to suck, but he’ll do so while his advanced stats say he is God.[/quote]What does FIP mean? Is that the stat that basically measures how good a pitcher is based off what he can control like Ks, BBs, HRs, etc.?

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    236. 237 bubblesdachimp says:

      [quote name=Berselius]At least Garza didn’t give up any HRs[/quote]
      Is that you Al?

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    237. 238 mb21 says:

      FIP = Fielding Independent Pitching

      FIP = (13*HR + 3*(BB+HBP-IBB) – 2*K) / IP + constant

      constant is equal to whatever it is so that the league average FIP is equal to the league average ERA. It’s usually around 3.2 or so.

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    238. 239 Mucker says:

      [quote name=mb21]FIP = Fielding Independent Pitching

      FIP = (13*HR + 3*(BB+HBP-IBB) – 2*K) / IP + constant

      constant is equal to whatever it is so that the league average FIP is equal to the league average ERA. It’s usually around 3.2 or so.[/quote]So basically, he’s really good at striking out and not giving up walks or HRs but is unlucky? Does he have a high babip?

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    239. 241 mb21 says:

      [quote name=Muck Muckintuck]So basically, he’s really good at striking out and not giving up walks or HRs but is unlucky? Does he have a high babip?[/quote]See the new thread. I had started to write that last night, but didn’t get it finished until just now.

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