Daily Facepalm, 10.14.2015 – Random NLDS Championship Observations

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(dying laughing) at the Oakland Athletics twitter account for posting this video last night.

The Cubs are in the NLCS. They defeated the Cardinals. When it mattered. This is not a drill.  

We sing the praises of Thoyer and Joe, but we too often overlook the fact that Tom Ricketts and family have kicked ass as owners–none of this happens without them.

Nothing like easing Justin Grimm into low-leverage, low-pressure, bases-empty situations.

It's going to be a long time before any Cubs roster lacks postseason experience.

Your assignment for today, class, is to put together a GIF mashup of John Lackey walking off the field and yelling at no one in particular and Sean Rodriguez beating and berating the Gatorade cooler.

Top 5 moments of the game:

5. Jason Hammel's single.

4. Kyle Schwarber hulk smash.

3. Javy Baez opposite-field FU.

2. John Lackey going batshit as he left the mound.

1. A to the Rizzo.

I'm not sure I used the right animal excrement to describe Lackey's tantrum. Ape, maybe?

The postseason might be a crapshoot, but the Cubs, like so many rigged dice, are loaded.

"Go Cubs Go" was loud last night, even if you lived a mile away from Wrigley.

 

The Cubs problem of having too many middle infielders continues to plague them.  

This is a great time to watch baseball with kids. It's outstanding baseball and insanely fun.

I was okay with the Cubs wildcard situation, but it's complete bullshit that they're guaranteed to be the lowest seed throughout the postseason, despite the fact they've won at least five games more than everyone left in the NL.

Kris Bryant is a fanboy.

 

 

Eddie Vedder jammin with the boys! #AllTheWay

A video posted by Kris Bryant (@kris_bryant17) on

 

 

Jake Arrieta and Jon Lester on full rest > whoever.

Any time Miguel Montero would like to make contact would be fine by me.

Pat Hughes is the best.

Ron Coomer is a lot better when he doesn't have to do an inning of play by play.

Joe Maddon has helped create a more relaxed environment in the clubhouse and my living room. Seriously, he's that good.

#wearegood

Cubs in four. Whomever they play.

 

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  1. Suburban kid

    JimL: I think if you ask any bench or platoon player they will say that they wish they were playing more. Some might sugarcoat it and highlight “what’s best for the team” stuff but they all want to play more. LaStella wants to play more, Baez wants to play more, Denorfia wants to play more, Richards wants to pitch more. Herrera wants to make the postseason roster. So did Rosscup. There is no doubt in my mind that Coghlan thinks he should play more.

    I think it is just a combination of a beat reporter framing a question a certain way, Coghlan being a bit too candid in his answers, and the beat reporter selectively quoting what Coghlan said.

    Since there is no other evidence of friction or unhappiness from Cogs and he genuinely seems happy to be part of this team, I think it is safe to say that it isn’t really an issue and isn’t causing any problems.

    Correct

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  2. Suburban kid

    Ron Coomer is a lot better when he doesn’t have to do an inning of play by play.

    And when the alternative is TBS. Seriously, I was happy listening to a guy who knew about all these players on both teams.

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  3. berselius

    Now the Cubs are assembling a plexiglass case for the Schwarber HR ball. No word on if it is blessed by an orthodox priest.

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  4. EnricoPallazzo

    anyone hear any explanations for the bizarre crowd control after the clinch? the cops were blocking off major exit points (e.g. the intersection at clark and addison) and not letting people leave the wrigley area. it was really weird being there. me and the people i was leaving the stadium walked out feeling pretty elated and then immediately were thrown into a throng of people that were growing increasingly anxious. i am no stranger to large crowds for shit like this but i have never seen a scenario where the cops are actively NOT letting people disperse through the city but rather bottlenecking them into an area and then blocking off all exit points. the only way out that we could find was a back alley on addison that led out to sheffield (and the cops blocked off this alley about 5 seconds after we snuck down it.

    seemed to have been really poorly handled…just wondering if anyone’s heard any sort of logic about this. or if anyone else that went to the game experienced this.

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  5. Suburban kid

    2. John Lackey going batshit as he left the mound.

    While looking for that just now to enjoy again, I came across the ump asking him for the ball and telling him not to go to his mouth on the mound. He did some real childish exaggerated finger licking after the next pitch while staring and pointing at the ump.

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  6. EnricoPallazzo

    this is fucking awesome

    “The playoffs don’t tell you which team was best, the only thing the playoffs are good for now is giving one team a ring. Because baseball isn’t about being the best in 5 games and it’s not about being the best in 7 games. It sure as hell isn’t about being the best in 1 game. It’s about being the best in 162 games, and only one team can make that claim- the Cardinals.”

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  7. Suburban kid

    WaLi,

    Argh, I just spent 20 minutes looking for it again, and noticed Lackey go to his mouth on the mound constantly, and he also did that forearm thing several times.

    Finally found it again in the bottom of the 3rd, first at bat (Soler). Maybe I’m embellishing, but it looks like he was annoyed for being called out.

    Even better, I found, was his reaction immediately after the Hammel RBI. Priceless.

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  8. EnricoPallazzo

    anyone hear anything about russell? i haven’t seen any updates beyond the fact that he wouldn’t be playing in game 4. surely it doesn’t take this long to analyze the results of an MRI… i mean i realize that there’s no rush to decide one way or another until they have to announce the NLCS roster but i can’t imagine it’s a particularly good sign that nothing has been announced yet

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  9. dmick89

    I can't believe someone in the media hasn't reported on Russell either. I'm under the assumption he's done for the season. Doubt the Cubs risk anything with him at his age given his history with leg issues.

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  10. Suburban kid

    MRI was last night. Sometimes they are inconclusive. Today was a day off. Maddon did say before the game yesterday that Russell was unlikely to be available for a game 5, which would have been tomorrow. Who gets added if he’s left behind – Herrera?

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  11. berselius

    dmick89:
    The ump didn’t understand. Lackey just ate a bucket of chicken before the start. Of course he’s going to be licking that shit off his fingers.

    (dying laughing)

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  12. dmick89

    Suburban kid:
    MRI was last night. Sometimes they are inconclusive. Today was a day off. Maddon did say before the game yesterday that Russell was unlikely to be available for a game 5, which would have been tomorrow. Who gets added if he’s left behind – Herrera?

    Herrera or Berry. Maybe they opt for some speed off the bench. I’d bet it’s Berry.

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  13. dmick89

    I don’t know what the right call is here. Choo has that bat so far out in front of home. He’s not trying to have that happen, but that’s messed up. The run probably counts here.

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  14. cerulean

    I must say, the Blue Jays fans looked like John Lackey after a shift and a bucket of chicken. Well done Cubs-Cards fans. It was positively civil.

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  15. Rizzo the Rat

    I’m not even sure what the Jays and Rangers were brawling about. At least in the Cubs/Pirates one there was a point real grievance.

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  16. Rizzo the Rat

    Yeah, first there was the bizarre Russell Martin error that gave the Rangers the lead, which lead to Toronto fans going crazy and throwing stuff on the field. Then, Jose Bautista gave the Blue Jays a lead with a home run, which lead to Toronto fans going crazy and throwing stuff on the field.

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  17. BVS

    Rizzo the Rat,

    I think it was because Dyson was mouthing off/posturing after Bautista’s bat flip. That flip, IMO, was pretty egregious. I bet he gets drilled the first time he faces Texas next year.

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  18. Rizzo the Rat

    BVS,

    If by “egregious” you mean “awesome,” yeah. I mean, it’s hard to blame a pitcher for getting emotional at a time like this, but I can’t blame Jose for getting swept up in the moment either.

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  19. BVS

    Rizzo the Rat,

    Nope. I mean his bat flip was pretty clearly in the “showing up the pitcher–even Sammy Sosa never imagined such a flip” category. Yeah, I get the emotion of the moment, but I still bet he gets drilled.

    May 2. My words will be marked by the bruises on Joey Bats’ ribs.

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  20. BVS

    dmick89,

    Agreed.

    Meta: With the return to the new, clean look and simpler comment system, do I need to re-register? My previous OV username and password doesn’t seem to work.

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  21. WaLi

    That batflip was badass. I think no doubt about it bat flips should be okay in the unwritten rules, but if you do a bat-flip on a warning track you have to get beaned.

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  22. Rice Cube

    So I guess the Eddy Julio sweepstakes comes down to who actually had the first binding contract. I hope to the high heavens that the commitment to the Giants was just a verbal one.

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  23. WaLi

    Millertime,

    I’m hoping for this, but mainly because of the hockey horn sound when the Blue Jays hit a HR. Though hopefully it wouldn’t be heard at all in the world series.

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  24. dmick89

    myles:
    I might buy 4 tickets and try to sell 1 to recoup the cost of the other 3 if that’s legal. Any idea if it is?

    No, no, no. You sell the one for less than season season ticket holders pay. Then you tell Alvin all about it.

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  25. Suburban kid

    myles,

    They let you buy four? I kinda thought it was two per customer. If it’s four, then hardly anyone won that lottery and you are very lucky.

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  26. Millertime

    I’d think MLB would frown on ticket speculation in a lottery situation like this, but I’m not sure how they would really police it.

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  27. Perkins

    myles: Didn’t know if it was different for the playoffs or whatever.

    I’ve got season tickets and have listed two of the NLCS games on StubHub…my account links straight to StubHub, so I doubt MLB cares. They just want their money.

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  28. myles

    Suburban kid:
    myles,

    They let you buy four? I kinda thought it was two per customer. If it’s four, then hardly anyone won that lottery and you are very lucky.

    Yep, 4 tickets. I can even get 2 and 2 if I want. My dad is coming with, my brother might fly out from Connecticut to come, and my dad-in-law might come too (which sucks because then I’m cash-negative but Cubs-positive.)

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  29. PFD

    Easy to second guess in hindsight, but this seems like a time where pimping it a little out of the box might have burnt him. He started off on a HR trot, realized it wasn’t going to get out and then kicked into a higher gear. There goes the hammy. Baez will be fine, but this leaves the bench a little short.

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  30. PFD

    dmick89: That sucks, but I figured as much. Is he done for the season?

    Looks like they’ll push that decision until after the NLCS, if it’s not moot at that point. I think the exact wording for now was “left off NLCS roster.”

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  31. dmick89

    Nate the old recalcitrant one from a long time ago,

    I think they’re going to the WS. I assume Russell is done for the season. They’re not going to want to risk anything with him.

    PFD, good to see you around again. I agree with what you said. This is an example of where hustle probably killed the rest of his season. The average fan thinks every player should go all out all the time. There’s the result sometimes.

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  32. Millertime

    I know it’s not “new” anymore, but I want to say again how awesome this new setup is for OV. It’s nice to see this place getting a steady stream of comments.

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  33. Millertime

    dmick89,

    I think PFD was suggesting that if he had gone hard out of the box, he wouldn’t have needed to try and kick it into an extra gear, and thus wouldn’t have had to strain his hammy.

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  34. dmick89

    Millertime,

    Yeah, re-reading his comment makes that clear. He’s right, but I’d add that once he didn’t go hard out of the box, it might have been best to settle for 2. Oh well. Second guessing is easy.

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  35. WaLi

    dmick89: I think they’re going to the WS.

    The biggest hurdles to the WS were the Pirates and the Cardinals right? I mean Greinke and Kershaw are still scary, but I feel like the Cubs can beat any team in a series of 7 right now. Of course the bats going cold with the weather would seriously hurt. But I don’t think Maddon will let that happen.

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  36. Suburban kid

    My grandmother won Cubs World Series tickets in 1984 and my dad has apparently been saving them for me.

    I’m not really into memorabilia, but I’ll probably keep them as a memory of my grandma — out of curiosity though, do such things have collector”s item value?

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  37. dmick89

    Suburban kid: out of curiosity though, do such things have collector”s item value?

    Probably not, but I don’t know much about that stuff. I’d just think there would be too many of those in existence to be of great value. Probably more value to you for sentimental reasons than anything.

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  38. PFD

    dmick89:
    Nate the old recalcitrant one from a long time ago,

    PFD, good to see you around again.

    Good to be back. I checked in on the site periodically, and the switch back to a commenting system I could figure out plus the team being good again made me want to hop back on. I started reading ACB when I was 14 or so in 2004, awesome to see it still going in some form.

    I agree that Russell should have settled for 2 after realizing the ball wouldn’t go out, and wish he would have. Probably would have dealt with some meatball scorn, but certainly preferable to missing the rest of the playoffs.

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  39. dmick89

    Yeah, it sucks for him that he’s going to miss it for sure. Hope he’s good enough for the WS, but I’m not counting on it. Cubs will miss his defense, but hopefully Javier Baez can make up for it with a bit more offense than Russell would provide.

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  40. dmick89

    Sorry for not posting anything today. I intended to, but my dog got sick again so I’ve been dealing with that. Going to try a couple medications and if that doesn’t work, that only leaves one option. She got better there for a couple days, but has not done well today at all, though she did just eat. I’m hopeful she can keep it down.

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  41. dmick89

    PFD and JKV have made me feel very old the last couple days talking about how old you are. I think JKV mentioned he started following this team more closely in 2003 when when he was 15 or something. I think I know what it’s felt like to be SK all these years. I probably shouldn’t make fun of his age anymore.

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  42. Rizzo the Rat

    I’m disappointed but not surprised about Russell. I’m glad we have Baez to fill his spot, but I liked him better as a bench player (for now).

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  43. Rizzo the Rat

    Not sure whether I want to watch the NLDS game or just watch Jose Bautista’s bat flip on a continuous loop.

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  44. o0g

    I’m also happy to start commenting again, if in a more limited capacity, actually living in Chicago and requiring fewer internest to follow the Cubs. I started following OV under its numerous other monikers in 2006 or so, when I was a pup at 132,010 years old. It helps as well that this is the most enjoyable Cubs team I’ve seen since the 80s, and that it really does feel like the whole season (and post-season) are preamble to a long, profitable stretch.

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  45. Rizzo the Rat

    I’m enjoying the spectacle of two division winners competing for the privilege of playing against the Cubs.

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  46. Perkins

    Really hoping to see the Mets take this one, especially if Terry Collins has to burn Thor or Harvey in addition to deGrom.

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  47. Myles

    I think I’d rather play the Dodgers over the Mets, after really thinking about it. The Dodgers have an advantage on Game 3 (Greinke v. Hendricks), but that’s about it. Game 1 is Lester vs. Brett Anderson. Game 2 is Arrieta v. Kershaw. Game 4 is Hammel vs. Alex Wood. I like our chances in those games. The Dodgers have a potent lineup, but so do we.

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  48. WaLi

    dmick89: It happens way too often it seems. Does the 3rd baseman forget he’s a 3rd baseman when he shits 40 feet to his left or something?

    I can’t blame them. I think I’d forget who I was if I shitted 40 feet to my left.

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  49. Rizzo the Rat

    I just hope the Cubs remember to cover third base this series. The Mets will be all over them if they don’t.

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  50. Smokestack Lightning

    cerulean:
    The upstart Mets versus the upstart Cubs. This will be fun.

    I remember the last time I was thrilled the Cubs avoided the more seasoned veteran team and drew the ostensibly weaker, inexperienced NLCS opponent…

    Sigh. At least the Mets don’t have Pudge.

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  51. Wenningtons Gorilla Cock

    Granderson in the postgame show declares that Chicago pizza is superior to NY pizza and that his whole family will be rooting for the Cubs.

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  52. cerulean

    Smokestack Lightning: I remember the last time I was thrilled the Cubs avoided the more seasoned veteran team and drew the ostensibly weaker, inexperienced NLCS opponent…

    Sigh. At least the Mets don’t have Pudge.

    Except that this time, the Mets are more like the Cubs were. These Cubs are more like the 2003 Marlins—which I believe were the hottest team in the NL the second half (42–25)—and the Cubs have been even hotter (50–25 despite beginning 5–7). So your comparison is actually good news.

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  53. Suburban kid

    The Rugby World Cup is going on and France, a top tier team, has struggled.

    I saw some news saying that, heading into an elimination game, the team has “launched a mutiny” against their coach. The players are going to manage themselves and have put together their own lineup for the game on Sunday.

    We hear about managers “losing the clubhouse”, but are there any known cases in baseball where the players actually took control of game management?

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  54. Rizzo the Rat

    The Jays’ 3 best hitters are interesting:

    Bautista: sucked until he turned 29
    Encarnacion: not good until he turned 29
    Donaldson: first full season at 27

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  55. Rizzo the Rat

    And, of course, they have Dickey on their pitching staff (first good season: age 35). That’s an awful lot of late-bloomers.

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  56. Perkins

    Rizzo the Rat:
    The Jays’ 3 best hitters are interesting:

    Bautista: sucked until he turned 29
    Encarnacion: not good until he turned 29
    Donaldson: first full season at 27

    While Harden was sure fun to watch, Donaldson would have looked really good in this Cubs lineup.

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  57. Perkins

    Mucker:
    Perkins,

    Can you imagine if Cubs still had Archer?

    That would be ridiculous. Even if they wouldn’t have Grimm and Ramirez, Archer would be way much better. But I guess Hendry had to throw the Hail Mary to try saving his own job.

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  58. dmick89

    I don’t know what the Cubs are waiting for with regards to Sosa. It’s petty of them at this point. Well, it was petty a long time ago. Tom Ricketts has done a great job as an owner. He’s made a couple mistakes in my opinion. First, it was taking too long to assess what needed to be done next (rebuild), but that ended up working out in that they were able to get Theo and later Joe Maddon. Still, he took too long to assess the organization. The second mistake is not burying the hatchet with Sosa.

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  59. JonKneeV

    Perkins: That would be ridiculous. Even if they wouldn’t have Grimm and Ramirez, Archer would be way much better. But I guess Hendry had to throw the Hail Mary to try saving his own job.

    It’s fun to think about for a split second. But if the Cubs had Donaldson, Archer, etc., they wouldn’t have Bryant, etc. Hell, they might not even have Theo.

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  60. JonKneeV

    b, myles, whoever, I know you are probably working today but a series preview post would be greatly appreciated. The depth at BN is pretty poor, although I would assume a quality post will be coming from Wrigleyville BP.

    I’m really interested in how the pitchers & hitters have fared over the last 2 months.

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  61. Suburban kid

    dmick89,

    I think he asked fans at the Cubs Convention a few years ago about this and he got more boos than cheers.

    Unlike Theo, Ricketts seems to take direction from the fanbase on a lot of fan-oriented decisions – instead of just making up his own mind. See, for example, all their bazillion questionnaires about the ballpark experience etc.

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  62. dmick89

    That’s OK in some ways, but he also needs to take the leads in other ways. If Rickets, Theo and company embrace Sosa, so will most of the fan base. I’m glad the Cubs have hired Manny Ramirez, but really, if you’re going to hire that guy, there is no good reason to not bring Sosa back. I’m not saying they should hire him, but they should certainly embrace him.

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  63. dmick89

    Another thing, winning helps. This buys Ricketts and company the ability to pretty much do whatever they want. If they get to the WS, the fan base will believe whatever Ricketts tells them.

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  64. Perkins

    JonKneeV: It’s fun to think about for a split second. But if the Cubs had Donaldson, Archer, etc., they wouldn’t have Bryant, etc. Hell, they might not even have Theo.

    True. Breakouts from Donaldson and Archer might have been enough for Hendry to keep his job, but not enough to make the Cubs good. We could have been looking at a White Sox situation.

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  65. umbra

    Perkins:
    You know what would be awesome? If the Cubs made the WS and Sosa threw out the first pitch at one of the home games.

    Do you WANT riots? ‘Cuz this is how we get riots.

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  66. Perkins

    So I’m in training this morning in the home office (I’m based in New York), and a senior manager started playing “Meet the Mets.”

    Me: “Hey, whatever keeps your hope alive, just know, it doesn’t matter.”
    SM: “This isn’t the same Mets team as earlier in the year. They’re a lot better.”
    Me: “Yeah, so are the Cubs. They have Schwarber, Soler, and Baez. Plus Arrieta went from very good to otherworldly. But hey, whatever keeps your hope alive, just know, it doesn’t matter.”
    SM: “You already used that one.”
    Me: “Actually that was Jake Arrieta. Right before he threw a four hit shutout against the Pirates. Who were a better team than the Mets.”

    Apparently I have a thing for career-limiting conversations. (dying laughing)

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  67. Suburban kid

    dmick89:
    Another thing, winning helps. This buys Ricketts and company the ability to pretty much do whatever they want. If they get to the WS, the fan base will believe whatever Ricketts tells them.

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  68. Myles

    JonKneeV:
    b, myles, whoever, I know you are probably working today but a series preview post would be greatly appreciated. The depth at BN is pretty poor, although I would assume a quality post will be coming from Wrigleyville BP.

    I’m really interested in how the pitchers & hitters have fared over the last 2 months.

    I just started a new job this week and am afraid to spend my time writing a huge thing, so hopefully someone else picks up the mantle.

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  69. dmick89

    Myles: I just started a new job this week and am afraid to spend my time writing a huge thing, so hopefully someone else picks up the mantle.

    I just collected the stats for the Mets starting pitchers so I'm on at least some of it. I was thinking of doing a Mets Pitchers and Mets Hitters in separate posts. Unless berselius wants to do it, I'll go ahead and start getting it ready. I just started so it will be awhile. Good luck with your new job.

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  70. Myles

    I think the Cubs match up fairly poorly against the Mets in a lot of ways. The Mets’ real strength is their #3 and #4 starters, which is our real weakness. Matz vs. Hammel (if we don’t short-start Lester) is pretty lopsided, even if Matz is fairly unproven. DeGrom vs. Hendricks is even worse.

    That said, our offense is slightly better, and we have the edge Lester vs. Harvey and Arrieta vs. Syndergaard (by a lot in the latter matchup). I think it’s a coinflip who wins this series, with the very slight edge to the Cubs. Cubs in 6 after an Arrieta 3-hitter in New York. (W – W – L – L – W – W)

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  71. Suburban kid

    Myles, good luck with your blog job

    dm, hope the mutt is feeling better

    JKV, thanks for going there. BN goes deep on some things but overall the priority seems to be frequency of posts, which is good but not as satisfying.

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  72. dmick89

    Suburban kid: dm, hope the mutt is feeling better

    Thanks. She is for now so that’s good.

    I’ve got a starting pitching preview about half done. It’s got a lot of info in there. I’ll try to get that posted at around 1 or 2 today. Position player comparison will come later.

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