The first game between the Cubs and the Giants had all kinds of unusual stuff going on. Koyie Hill actually hit the ball and had it actually leave the ballpark in actual fair territory. No really. Here’s proof:
Also, Alfonso Soriano took a bases loaded walk after starting out on an 0-2 count with two outs. James Russell managed to throw more than one inning of scoreless baseball.
It also had stuff that is all too familiar. The Cubs getting men into scoring position with nobody out and then not scoring. Doug Davis remembered he was Doug Davis. John Grabow continued to have excellent recollection that he is John Grabow. Alfonso Soriano made a horrible defensive play.
After it was all over, they had lost 13-7. But the good news is, they get to do it all over again. And this time we get treated to a Rodrigo Lopez start. I expect hilarity.
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Still can’t believe the Koyiey home run.
mb21Quote Reply
Using rWAR and defense that matches the fans scouting report, we get the following: Win value of 4 million in 2007 and 4.5 million since. Soriano has been worth $31.5 million so far. Let’s get rid of the negative WAR season because you can’t pay someone under $0. He’s now worth $35.6 million. Nobody with a .325 OBP has been worth $60 million or more.
mb21Quote Reply
I’m setting the O/U on IP by Lopez at 3. (dying laughing)
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Still can’t believe the Koyiey home run.[/quote]Sun ——————–> dog’s ass
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Any guesses on attendance? Place full or back to half-empty?[/quote]
The park was pretty full. There were sections of upper deck seats that were empty and the RF terrace level seats were sparse but everywhere else was at least 80% filled, including the bleachers. They said the paid attendance was 39K+ and I can believe that. At least a third of the attendees were Giants fans. Pretty cool folks, we kept talking shit about our batting practice pitcher (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Using rWAR and defense that matches the fans scouting report, we get the following: Win value of 4 million in 2007 and 4.5 million since. Soriano has been worth $31.5 million so far. Let’s get rid of the negative WAR season because you can’t pay someone under $0. He’s now worth $35.6 million. Nobody with a .325 OBP has been worth $60 million or more.[/quote]I’m using Fangraphs value tables.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Still can’t believe the Koyiey home run.[/quote]
I told the Giants fans that I hoped they gave Vogelsong shit for serving up that homer. Vogelsong should’ve been ashamed of himself.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I’d also disagree that the Grabow deal was worse at the time. you could sign Koyie Hill to a $10 million contract or sign Pujols for 8 years and $250 million and the Koyie HIll contract is better at the time they are signed. 8 years is a long ass time. A ton of money committed to one person for that many years carries significant risk. Even if it ended up working out, the risk alone makes it a worse deal at the time of the contract.
But really, if we’re sitting here arguing about which is worse, Grabow or Soriano, give Jim Hendry an extension. Because that’s what we’re really arguing. If the Grabow deal was anywhere NEAR as bad as the Soriano deal, the Soriano contract was quite awesome and Hendry needs to stick around.
Was the Grabow deal bad? Yes, even if it’s for an inconsequential amount of money it was a bad contract. There’s no getting around that.
And here’s the thing: the Cubs can easily trade John Grabow. They may have to kick in a million bucks. How many millions do they have to kick in to trade Soriano? $50? At that point you may as well keep him and “see what happens.” (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I’m using Fangraphs value tables.[/quote]Even Total Zone has him being better than average on defense with the Cubs so I’m confident in taking away at least 20 runs if not 30.
mb21Quote Reply
Speaking of guys that are easily tradeable, Carlos Pena has 10 HR this month and is on a cheap, one year deal. Trade this man while you can, Jimbo.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Speaking of guys that are easily tradeable, Carlos Pena has 10 HR this month and is on a cheap, one year deal. Trade this man while you can, Jimbo.[/quote]Agreed. Cubs probably have to pay the $5 million owed to him next season, but whatever. He could bring a decent prospect.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Speaking of guys that are easily tradeable, Carlos Pena has 10 HR this month and is on a cheap, one year deal. Trade this man while you can, Jimbo.[/quote]But they’re finally getting all their opening day roster guys healthy! Got to give it a few weeks so they can make a run!
/Cub Front Office’d
CormsQuote Reply
[quote name=Corms]But they’re finally getting all their opening day roster guys healthy! Got to give it a few weeks so they can make a run!
/Cub Front Office’d[/quote]What’s truly crushing about this, is that it is exactly what this FO is probably thinking.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Agreed. Cubs probably have to pay the $5 million owed to him next season, but whatever. He could bring a decent prospect.[/quote]Yeah, the more I think about it, if I were Jim, this is the first deal I’d make. If Byrd comes back and hits a hot streak, he’s next, then Marmol, then Soto.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
I’d also add one other thing: if we’re going to change the way we evaluate contracts, we have to show why it’s as good or better. Right now what we have is the players WAR and the dollars per win. We calculate his value that way and we know what he’s being paid. This system for evaluating contracts has been used for several years now because it makes sense. If we have the player’s value and his contract, we know how much he performed above or below what he was paid. If we use his projections and a projected $WAR we get the value at the time the deal was signed.
Dan Szymborski showed recently that Soriano’s contract, while not the worst in baseball, will likely pay him $50 million more than he was worth. That’s based on what happened and what we project from this point forward. When I did the Hendry piece a year or two ago, I did it both ways. It wasn’t a terrible deal, but they did overpay. One thing I forgot to include in that piece was that players who sign 3 years or longer contracts sign for 10% less than their $WAR.
If we’re going to look at this from a different angle, why is it better than what we’ve done so far?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, the more I think about it, if I were Jim, this is the first deal I’d make. If Byrd comes back and hits a hot streak, he’s next, then Marmol, then Soto.[/quote]Agreed. Marmol still has some value despite the longterm contract and Soto is worth a lot. Probably not as much as his projection shows since he’s so inconsistent from one season to the next, but he still has a lot of value. I’d also trade Garza.
Rather than list the players I’d trade, here’s a list of ones I would not trade: Starlin Castro and Chris Carpenter.
mb21Quote Reply
what are potential destinations for pena? doesn’t seem like that many. maybe the dbacks if they decide to buy, likewise the indians I guess, or the rays (dying laughing)
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]what are potential destinations for pena? doesn’t seem like that many. maybe the dbacks if they decide to buy, likewise the indians I guess, or the rays (dying laughing)[/quote]
I was thinking any one of the AL West teams might want a power hitting 1B.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
After hitting zero homers in April, Pena has hit 17 in May and June combined. Could the Giants be a team interested? It would be nice to see him getting on their bus on Thursday but I’m sure that the Cubs won’t consider dealing him this early. Mike needs the team he broke camp with as we all know.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Agreed. Marmol still has some value despite the longterm contract and Soto is worth a lot. Probably not as much as his projection shows since he’s so inconsistent from one season to the next, but he still has a lot of value. I’d also trade Garza.
Rather than list the players I’d trade, here’s a list of ones I would not trade: Starlin Castro and Chris Carpenter.[/quote]I wouldn’t trade Barney, either. Nice bench guy to have around with his SS-2B flexibility.
The Cubs have some nice pieces to swap for guys to stock the farm, if they can just summon the courage to make the deals.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I was thinking any one of the AL West teams might want a power hitting 1B.[/quote]
i’d have to check, but it seems like trumbo and moreland have been doing just fine. are the m’s likely to buy?
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]what are potential destinations for pena? doesn’t seem like that many. maybe the dbacks if they decide to buy, likewise the indians I guess, or the rays (dying laughing)[/quote]SF, AZ, LAA, off the top of my head.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]After hitting zero homers in April, Pena has hit 17 in May and June combined. Could the Giants be a team interested? It would be nice to see him getting on their bus on Thursday but I’m sure that the Cubs won’t consider dealing him this early. Mike needs the team he broke camp with as we all know.[/quote]
Unless they’re sticking Huff in the OF I don’t think the Giants make sense as a Pena destination. I think they’d want Soto more, assuming he’s available.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Giants?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GW]i’d have to check, but it seems like trumbo and moreland have been doing just fine. are the m’s likely to buy?[/quote]
I think they’re doing fine, but you never know if someone gets injured…plus I thought Moreland could play OF but I might just be wrong.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
That Mike Quade All-Star thing makes me (dying laughing)
WTF was that all about? They couldn’t find another manager?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Unless they’re sticking Huff in the OF I don’t think the Giants make sense as a Pena destination. I think they’d want Soto more, assuming he’s available.[/quote]
They need offense and yes, I think they would consider moving Huff. He certainly can’t be worse defensively than Burrell
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]They need offense and yes, I think they would consider moving Huff. He certainly can’t be worse defensively than Burrell[/quote]
They’d have to release one of their OFs then because they’re so OF heavy. I can see it happening.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Mateo has been added to the Iowa Cubs of Chicago and LeMahuey has been sent down
melissaQuote Reply
Yankees in the process of dismantling the Brewers.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
isn’t belt close to returning? I can’t see the giants going for him.
GWQuote Reply
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/06/26/breaking-bad-the-finest-hour-on-television.html
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Mateo has been added to the Iowa Cubs of Chicago and LeMahuey has been sent down[/quote]
Probably because his name is so hard to Quadify.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I think they’re doing fine, but you never know if someone gets injured…plus I thought Moreland could play OF but I might just be wrong.[/quote]
but the rangers also have napoli, who I think is getting only limited at bats
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Probably because his name is so hard to Quadify.[/quote]Matty
mb21Quote Reply
Marcy (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GW]but the rangers also have napoli, who I think is getting only limited at bats[/quote]
If he’s only getting limited ABs they might need a better option, but since Moreland is also lefty (I think, right?) they probably won’t go too hard for Pena.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I think “Mercy” might be more apropos
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]If he’s only getting limited ABs they might need a better option, but since Moreland is also lefty (I think, right?) they probably won’t go too hard for Pena.[/quote]
napoli is a beast offensively.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]napoli is a beast offensively.[/quote]
Is he being squeezed out by Michael Young at DH? Seems kind of a waste.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Pena’s a good defender, so we have to consider NL destinations equally to AL destinations.
How about ATL? Lee hasn’t been so good.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Wow, McNutt is done after just 2 IP.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Pena’s a good defender, so we have to consider NL destinations equally to AL destinations.
How about ATL? Lee hasn’t been so good.[/quote]
Lee’s in Baltimore now…I think Freddy Freeman is their 1B?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
The Pirates? (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Lee’s in Baltimore now…I think Freddy Freeman is their 1B?[/quote]
yeah, freeman has been just ok. doesn’t seem like the braves mo to bench their 1b of the future the rest of the year. it’s possible, though.
GWQuote Reply
Rodrigo manages to get out of the first inning without giving up 3 runs, Let’s See What Happens.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Wow, McNutt is done after just 2 IP.[/quote]
Sorry, 3 IP. 6 H, 4 ER, 3 BB.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
This Rebel Ridling fellow is hitting pretty well. What’s the scouting report on this guy?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Sorry, 3 IP. 6 H, 4 ER, 3 BB.[/quote]
No dinner for you, at this rate you’ll never be Associate Editor of Minor League Updates around here.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Sorry, 3 IP. 6 H, 4 ER, 3 BB.[/quote]Yuck.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]No dinner for you, at this rate you’ll never be Associate Editor of Minor League Updates around here.[/quote]
*shame*
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I know the speed change screws up one’s timing, but striking out on an 84-mph “fast” ball should also be shameworthy.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Is this a balk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHPqCA-mpsc&feature=player_embedded
Rice CubeQuote Reply
hmmm… I guess trumbo hasn’t been that good, soriano-like w/ 13 hrs and .302 obp. angels could work.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]hmmm… I guess trumbo hasn’t been that good, soriano-like w/ 13 hrs and .302 obp. angels could work.[/quote]They’d make a great platoon and if the Cubs cover the deferred money that makes a lot of sense.
mb21Quote Reply
Trumbo has actually been better vs righties, but that’s highly unlikely to continue.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GW]hmmm… I guess trumbo hasn’t been that good, soriano-like w/ 13 hrs and .302 obp. angels could work.[/quote][quote name=mb21]They’d make a great platoon and if the Cubs cover the deferred money that makes a lot of sense.[/quote]Anyone in the LAAA system of note that represents a possible return?
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Anyone in the LAAA system of note that represents a possible return?[/quote]
Trout. (dying laughing) (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
Cubs losing. Astros winning.
This could work to draft positioning’s favor.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rodrigo is ducking whenever a batter is making contact even if the ball is going foul, that can’t be a good sign.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Trout. (dying laughing) (dying laughing)[/quote]Only if they throw in Weaver. (dying laughing)
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Only if they throw in Weaver. (dying laughing)[/quote]
And then they flip him for Nolasco, right?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Rodrigo is ducking whenever a batter is making contact even if the ball is going foul, that can’t be a good sign.[/quote]
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]And then they flip him for Nolasco, right?[/quote]Well, I just assumed that was implied.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
if the jays get hot, i could see them giving pena a shot, assuming they are content to leave snider at AAA for the rest of the year
GWQuote Reply
Rich Harden ——> Will start friday for A’s
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Rich Harden ——> Will start friday for A’s[/quote]That’s great. Good for him.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
So you’re telling me there’s a chance? (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]That’s great. Good for him.[/quote]
+1
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Rich Harden ——> Will start friday for A’s[/quote]
Billy Beane told him before the season that he would start on July 1st and return to the DL July 2nd.
GWQuote Reply
Rodrigo seems to be stumbling backwards after he releases the ball. I don’t know if it’s normal for him but it looks awkward and would seem inefficient in regard to follow through and fielding.
melissaQuote Reply
Zack Greinke’s got shelled today. Not as bad as Davis, though.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Zack Greinke’s got shelled today. Not as bad as Davis, though.[/quote]Greinke hasn’t been particularly good with the Brewers in terms of runs allowed.
mb21Quote Reply
Astros no longer winning.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Greinke hasn’t been particularly good with the Brewers in terms of runs allowed.[/quote]He’s cited FIP as his favorite stat. Maybe someone should introduce him to the runs allowed stat.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Astros no longer winning.[/quote]Cubs can still pick up half a game today. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Cubs can still pick up half a game today. (dying laughing)[/quote]
One of the few times I wish the Astros didn’t suck so much.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Luis!
ACTQuote Reply
MONTY!
melissaQuote Reply
Welcome to the Cubs, Lou Montanez.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Welcome to the Cubs, Lou Montanez.[/quote]
I don’t actually know if he had another HR as a Cub (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I don’t actually know if he had another HR as a Cub (dying laughing)[/quote]
No was a good guess and the correct answer
melissaQuote Reply
louuuuuuuuuuuuu
uncle daveQuote Reply
Starlin!
ACTQuote Reply
New hitting streak starts tonight.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Montanez reminds me of Hendry Rodriguez for some reason. Maybe he should grow a bad mustache. (dying laughing)
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Stupid shortstop (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
The Pirates might not be a bad place to kick the tires for Pena.
If the Cubs pay his salary (or most of it, including next year’s deferred money), they could get a pretty decent prospect from a system that has produced a number of good players recently.
Aren’t they starting Overbay at 1st? Plus Pena is supposed to be such a positive clubhouse guy and he has playoff experience from the Rays. He’s not a major commitment by Pittsburgh, but if things go well, he isn’t someone that they absolutely couldn’t re-sign so he’s not necessarily a rental.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Montanez reminds me of Hendry Rodriguez for some reason. Maybe he should grow a bad mustache. (dying laughing)[/quote]
You should know there’s no such thing as “a bad mustache,” in Chicago.
melissaQuote Reply
South Carolina —> leading in clinching game
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]You should know there’s no such thing as “a bad mustache,” in Chicago.[/quote]Oh, that is so unfortunately true.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]South Carolina —> leading in clinching game[/quote]Meaning we should all be on guard for some Dutch courage from Bubbles later on. (dying laughing)
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Baker apparently can play defense.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Meaning we should all be on guard for some Dutch courage from Bubbles later on. (dying laughing)[/quote]
Signs point to yes.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I think actually the Rays are a good spot for Pena; they really need a 1B. Also maybe LAA. I wonder if Boston would want Byrd for RF. I’d also like to trade Soto to BOS.
Recalcitrant Blogger NateQuote Reply
[quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]I think actually the Rays are a good spot for Pena; they really need a 1B. Also maybe LAA. I wonder if Boston would want Byrd for RF. I’d also like to trade Soto to BOS.[/quote]
Boo. Soto to Giants.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]I think actually the Rays are a good spot for Pena; they really need a 1B. [/quote]
I heard they have a young shortstop playing pretty well in the fsl. mb would hate him, though. (dying laughing)
GWQuote Reply
I’d be shocked if the Rays pursue Pena. I think they’d try to do the half buy/sell thing and go after someone like Brandon Allen or Yonder Alonso.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]I think actually the Rays are a good spot for Pena; they really need a 1B. Also maybe LAA. I wonder if Boston would want Byrd for RF. I’d also like to trade Soto to BOS.[/quote]
Aisle424Quote Reply
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/28/report-mlb-likely-to-file-motion-to-seize-the-dodgers/
Since y’all were discussing it earlier, here’s what MLB is trying to do re: Dodgers.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]I’d be shocked if the Rays pursue Pena. I think they’d try to do the half buy/sell thing and go after someone like Brandon Allen or Yonder Alonso.[/quote]
I heard kila is available.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]I heard kila is available.[/quote]
Countdown to Al’s post lobbying to trade for Kila in 3…2….1….
Aisle424Quote Reply
Uh. How is that not an out?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Uh. How is that not an out?[/quote]
Guess it popped out of Geo’s glove or something. Radio guys were incredulous.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Guess it popped out of Geo’s glove or something. Radio guys were incredulous.[/quote]Zonk eventually concluded it was the right call
binkyQuote Reply
Grabow!
ACTQuote Reply
Grabow in.
Just saw the Gameday replay, looked like Torres’ leg was on the plate before Soto applied the tag anyway.
Grabow in —> Cubs lose
Rice CubeQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Grabow sucks so much.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I love Grabow so goddamn much.
ACTQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
6-2 Giants. Good gravy.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]This Rebel Ridling fellow is hitting pretty well. [/quote]
He just homered for the 2nd time tonight.
The concerning thing about McNutt is that he threw 23 strikes out of 51 pitches. That’s two Rick Ankiel-ish starts in a row.
Chris DickersonQuote Reply
Cliff Lee has 3 straight CG shutouts, including Boston tonight
Recalcitrant Blogger NateQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]I love Grabow so goddamn much.[/quote]That’s Grabow’s hidden value. He’s going to get the Cubs the number 1 draft pick next year.
mb21Quote Reply
BB to opposing pitcher who can’t hit. Nice.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]That’s Grabow’s hidden value. He’s going to get the Cubs the number 1 draft pick next year.[/quote]Make him the closer.
ACTQuote Reply
No! Make him a starter!
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]No! Make him a starter![/quote]
He’d reach his pitch count before the third inning.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Make him pitch every remaining inning of the season.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]He’d reach his pitch count before the third inning.[/quote]Quade doesn’t pay attention before the 5th anyway.
mb21Quote Reply
Make him a three hitter.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Quade doesn’t pay attention before the 5th anyway.[/quote]
I can’t argue with you today.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]Cliff Lee has 3 straight CG shutouts, including Boston tonight[/quote]He’s no Grabow.
ACTQuote Reply
Went downstairs for a little while and they were tied, came back up, 4 runs down.
/Grabow’d
binkyQuote Reply
Grabow is a trooper. He sucked in both games of the doubleheader. Team player.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Brett Jackson strikes out a ton…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
If Pittsburgh holds on, they will be 3 out of 1st. I’m going to be a Pirates fan this year.
Aisle424Quote Reply
It’s annoying that the Cubs can’t even beat up on the Giants’ worst starter.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Evan Longoria is good at baseball.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]It’s annoying that the Cubs can’t even beat up on the Giants’ worst starter.[/quote]
Zito has had a nice start for a guy coming off the DL.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]Zito has had a nice start for a guy coming off the DL.[/quote]Well, he got that extra AAA start today, so that should help.
binkyQuote Reply
Stupid Astros.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Nice to see Rami still has some power.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Ace says Josh Byrnes is a possibility to replace Hendry:
http://www.bleachernation.com/2011/06/28/rumor-josh-byrnes-is-interested-in-a-front-office-job-with-the-chicago-cubs/
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Ace says Josh Byrnes is a possibility to replace Hendry:
http://www.bleachernation.com/2011/06/28/rumor-josh-byrnes-is-interested-in-a-front-office-job-with-the-chicago-cubs/%5B/quote%5D
meh
GWQuote Reply
Bubbles=====> bout to be a fucking happy chimp
but bubbles has to say that Roth threw 129 pitches on three dyas rest tonight.. If i am a high school pitcher i am not going to college.. Just not happeneing. These guys get abused an unreal amount..
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
What is the webstie that moitors pitcher abuse. Bubbles would love to see a study on Matt price.
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Nine-win predictors are still in the mix for that OV T-shirt!
Rice CubeQuote Reply
http://www.boydsworld.com/data/pitchcount.html
GWQuote Reply
lets lose two
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]http://www.boydsworld.com/data/pitchcount.html[/quote]
Thanks.. SHocked that a releiver throwing 95 pitches didnt get on it.. Roth tonight will be added..
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Thanks.. SHocked that a releiver throwing 95 pitches didnt get on it.. Roth tonight will be added..[/quote]
yeah, I think it’s just one dude adding them when he sees them. probably lots of missed cases
GWQuote Reply
There are an inordinate amount of bunts in these College World Series games.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]There are an inordinate amount of bunts in these College World Series games.[/quote]
Its absurd// We cant hit so i kinda get it.. Somewhere Berselius is having a heart attack..
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
1 more out…
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
why did the CF throw the ball in the stands?? keep that fucker!
anyway, congrats to SC for repeat CWS national champs!
Horny GoatQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]There are an inordinate amount of bunts in these College World Series games.[/quote]
college baseball always has more bunts, and it’s hard to hit HRs in this new park, I guess (dying laughing)
Horny GoatQuote Reply
Bubbles====>> Happy and proud chimp
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]If Pittsburgh holds on, they will be 3 out of 1st. I’m going to be a Pirates fan this year.[/quote]I’m kind of jealous of all those Pirates fans who stuck through all those crappy years and are finally seeing them winning (a little). The must be like the Second Coming to them.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]I’m kind of jealous of all those Pirates fans who stuck through all those crappy years and are finally seeing them winning (a little). The must be like the Second Coming to them.[/quote]
The best is yet to come.
Aisle424Quote Reply
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/news/story?id=6712238
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Injury adjusted standings by Symborski. The Cubs record would change by “0” wins if they’d been healthy all year.
Recalcitrant Blogger NateQuote Reply
Cubs =
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]http://www.newsweek.com/2011/06/26/breaking-bad-the-finest-hour-on-television.html[/quote]
I will always sympathize with Walt. I can totally relate.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Cubs =
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(dying laughing) (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
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http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/cubs-insider/
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Is Alvin asking if the person who wrote that article put his name on it? Because it’s right under the headline.
If not, he must be talking about the source’s actual name, which would be hypocritical by even his standards.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
The backflips and cartwheels Al does during his mental gymnastics are a sight to behold.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]The backflips and cartwheels Al does during his mental gymnastics are a sight to behold.[/quote]
Did you put your actual name on this post?
I didn’t think so.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]
I didn’t think so.[/quote]
You think, I feel.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]You think, I feel.[/quote]
You know, sometimes I feel like taking a day off. But I never do. Thanks again. For nothing.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]You know, sometimes I feel like taking a day off. But I never do. Thanks again. For nothing.[/quote]k
MishQuote Reply
So, possible destinations for Pena? I’m thinking CLE, SEA, LAA, and PIT would have the clearest spots to fill (at first or DH), with the possibility that maybe Texas (some 3-way with Young and Moreland at 1B/DH), SF, and ATL (the latter two having 1B prospects) tries to get involved. I don’t see the Rays pursuing Pena, and just about everyone else in any sort of hunt is set at 1B and/or DH.
MishQuote Reply
I’m thinking that TEX is only looking to upgrade pitching (especially relief). Chris Davis and Holland are going to be their major chips.
They might like to upgrade C, but no team has ever won when changing catchers mid-season.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]So, possible destinations for Pena? I’m thinking CLE, SEA, LAA, and PIT would have the clearest spots to fill (at first or DH), with the possibility that maybe Texas (some 3-way with Young and Moreland at 1B/DH), SF, and ATL (the latter two having 1B prospects) tries to get involved. I don’t see the Rays pursuing Pena, and just about everyone else in any sort of hunt is set at 1B and/or DH.[/quote]Any speculation on possible trade destinations for Pena in this comment?
I didn’t think so.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]I’m thinking that TEX is only looking to upgrade pitching (especially relief). Chris Davis and Holland are going to be their major chips.
They might like to upgrade C, but no team has ever won when changing catchers mid-season.[/quote]
2007 Cubs?
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]
They might like to upgrade C, but no team has ever won when changing catchers mid-season.[/quote]What if it drastically improves their WP+PB/IP?
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Any speculation on possible trade destinations for Pena in this comment?
I didn’t think so.[/quote]Is this a new meme that’s unbeknownst to me?
MishQuote Reply
I’d be surprised if sfg or tex were interested. texas has young/moreland/napoli. the giants have huff/belt.
GWQuote Reply
If the Cubs trade Pena, expect the latin faction to explode out of control in the clubhouse.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]So, possible destinations for Pena? I’m thinking CLE, SEA, LAA, and PIT would have the clearest spots to fill (at first or DH), with the possibility that maybe Texas (some 3-way with Young and Moreland at 1B/DH), SF, and ATL (the latter two having 1B prospects) tries to get involved. I don’t see the Rays pursuing Pena, and just about everyone else in any sort of hunt is set at 1B and/or DH.[/quote]
June isn’t even over and you’re thinking about next month?
Sorry, I’ll wait a while.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
for the rays, otoh, the upgrade would be unambiguous and probably cheap.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]The backflips and cartwheels Al does during his mental gymnastics are a sight to behold.[/quote]
Also, this was impressive as I was sitting in an almost direct line with the throw:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Cubs-fan-s-incredible-throw-returns-Tejada-homer?urn=mlb-wp11089
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]I’d be surprised if sfg or tex were interested. texas has young/moreland/napoli. the giants have huff/belt.[/quote] I completely agree, which is why I put them in the maybe pile. It would mostly work if the teams start employing some platoons – like Pena/Moreland vs Righties and Young/Napoli vs lefties (and I’m sure Young doesn’t want to be a platoon player).
In SF, it would either involve holding Belt down all year (not sure if there’d be any benefit to be had here for SF), or working a rotation with Belt/Huff/Burrell/Ross in the corner OF.
Neither are likely, but I’m trying my hardest to see where he could possibly make sense. Flat out open 1B positions are few.
MishQuote Reply
i imagine sea/pit/cle would wait a while lest they fall out of the race early
GWQuote Reply
Impossible.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]for the rays, otoh, the upgrade would be unambiguous and probably cheap.[/quote]
I don’t necessarily disagree, but it’s worth pointing out that Casey Kotchman is posting a .374 wOBA, and while I don’t think that’s sustainable, it’s not where the Rays are hurting. I personally see them trying to trade someone like Upton and/or Niemann for a near-ready 1B bat, but mainly looking for the offensive upgrade internally (Jennings and Guyer). I also haven’t checked on his numbers, but I know Russ Canzler started out hot, he may get a look if Kotchman falters (which I’ve been waiting for but still hasn’t happened).
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Also, this was impressive as I was sitting in an almost direct line with the throw:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Cubs-fan-s-incredible-throw-returns-Tejada-homer?urn=mlb-wp11089%5B/quote%5D
Meh. The story oversells the throw.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Impossible.[/quote]
(dying laughing), yeah the most unrealistic part about that idea is z going to the al.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Impossible.[/quote]Yes, not impossible because you’re targeting arguably the best position prospect, but because the pitcher wants to hit. Christ, does Al listen to himself?
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Meh. The story oversells the throw.[/quote]
The catch was pretty good. The throw was helped by his relative elevation, but he didn’t get much of a running start, it was almost all arm.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Yes, not impossible because you’re targeting arguably the best position prospect, but because the pitcher wants to hit. Christ, does Al listen to himself?[/quote]
It would be hilarious if you could get Deep Thoughts By Al Yellon on iTunes.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]I personally see them trying to trade someone like Upton and/or Niemann for a near-ready 1B bat[/quote]
Impossible. Upton said he likes Tampa yesterday.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]The catch was pretty good. The throw was helped by his relative elevation, but he didn’t get much of a running start, it was almost all arm.[/quote]
It was a good throw, but not so much better than a throw you or I could make.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Impossible. Upton said he likes Tampa yesterday.[/quote]You’re impossible today.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]You’re impossible today.[/quote]
STOP THE NAMECALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OR I WILL NAMECALL LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER!
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]It was a good throw, but not so much better than a throw you or I could make.[/quote]The catch was fucking sweet too. Could you make that catch too?
MuckerQuote Reply
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Muckey]The catch was fucking sweet too. Could you make that catch too?[/quote]
I don’t think I’m mean enough to almost knock people backwards to make that catch. Barehanded off a line drive too.
But I don’t think I would’ve gotten it to the infield grass in the air.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Muckey]The catch was fucking sweet too. Could you make that catch too?[/quote]
Probably not, but I can snark better than he.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I don’t think I’m mean enough to almost knock people backwards to make that catch. Barehanded off a line drive too.
But I don’t think I would’ve gotten it to the infield grass in the air.[/quote]Yeah, I don’t think I would’ve jumped to catch a ball off a bleacher. I think I could’ve have made the throw, but the catch would have failed me.
MuckerQuote Reply
I’d have to say though, if a homer were hit by a big name like Chase Utley or the like, I’d almost be inclined to keep it.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I’d have to say though, if a homer were hit by a big name like Chase Utley or the like, I’d almost be inclined to keep it.[/quote]
In pace requiescat.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I’d have to say though, if a homer were hit by a big name like Chase Utley or the like, I’d almost be inclined to keep it.[/quote]Agreed. I’ll be god damned if I throw that ball back. I’d give it to my nephew or a little kid next to me.
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=Muckey]Agreed. I’ll be god damned if I throw that ball back. I’d give it to my nephew or a little kid next to me.[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
^^^^WTF? (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)
MuckerQuote Reply
It seems Muckey is not familiar with PedoBear.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedobear
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]It seems Muckey is not familiar with PedoBear.[/quote]No, I’ve never seen that critter before. Reading my post though it did sound kind of gay.
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]They might like to upgrade C, but no team has ever won when changing catchers mid-season.[/quote]
Do the 2010 Giants not count?
Chris DickersonQuote Reply
[quote name=Chris Dickerson]Do the 2010 Giants not count?[/quote]
I don’t think he’s being serial. It just seems like a common charge from braindead fans that the catcher has to know the staff. Nevermind the 2007 Cubs not only changed midseason (Barrett to Kendall) but again in September (Kendall to Soto). We’ve seen guys like V-Mart and Pudge be moved in recent years at the deadline, too.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]I don’t think he’s being serial.[/quote]
I actually originally wrote “or am I just missing a hilarious joke” but cut it at the last second. Thanks.
Chris DickersonQuote Reply
[quote name=Chris Dickerson]I actually originally wrote “or am I just missing a hilarious joke” but cut it at the last second. Thanks.[/quote]Yes. It’s from ACB and goes back to 2007 when some unbelievably idiotic person insisted that no team can win if they change catchers midseason. The same person also insisted that no team can win a game after teammates get into a fight with one another. He also insisted Michael Barrett cost the Cubs more than 10 wins in his less than half season with the Cubs in 2007 simply because of his defense. Perhaps funniest of all, he argued, day and night, that Koyie Hill was a valuable player because of the won/loss record in the games he started. It’s too bad he deleted his own blog, but thanks to Baseball Think Factory, some of it lives on forever.
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/the_bad_news_cubs_the_great_rbi_statistic/www.crookedbrook.com/custom-embroidered-jackets.htm/P0/ (one of the most hilarious comment threads ever on that site)
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/the_bad_news_cubs_thank_god_for_another_cubs_blog/
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/the_bad_news_cubs_the_great_rbi_statistic/www.crookedbrook.com/custom-embroidered-jackets.htm/P0/ (one of the most hilarious comment threads ever on that site)
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/the_bad_news_cubs_thank_god_for_another_cubs_blog/%5B/quote%5D
Vaguely remember that but bookmarked for some comedic reading later.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Vaguely remember that but bookmarked for some comedic reading later.[/quote]It’s a good time for sure.
mb21Quote Reply
new stuff: http://obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/looking-back-at-the-matt-garza-trade.html
mb21Quote Reply
How much concern should there be for Brett Jackson’s 30% K-rate??
ABQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It’s a good time for sure.[/quote]TWSS
MishQuote Reply