The 26-year old Yoennis Cespedes will be playing in Major League Baseball at some point soon. Several teams are interested and the Cubs are one of them.
The Cubs will have a private workout with the 26-year-old outfielder, who is considered to be the best player in a generation to come out of Cuba. The Cubs will have plenty of competition if they decide to pursue the five-tool outfielder. The Red Sox, Phillies, Indians, Blue Jays, Pirates, Rangers, Tigers, Nationals, Athletics, Marlins and Yankees are reportedly interested in him as well, and he worked out for the Marlins front office on Thursday.
Cespedes is expected to get a deal similar to or higher than that of Aroldis Chapman ($30 million). Chapman hasn’t worked out as many hoped, but the Reds were aggressive and got a guy with a very high ceiling and it didn’t cost them as much as a player with a similar ceiling would on the free agent market. I was irritated that the Cubs didn’t pursue Chapman so I’m very excited to see the Cubs at least kicking the tires on Cespedes.
If you haven’t seen the video that made Cespedes famous, you should watch it. He’s a freak of nature.
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Do we know his real age is 26? Guess I’m interested because he might need some minor league time.
Rodrigo RamirezQuote Reply
[quote name=alf]Hey Fang, along with BFS, the Astros also got Bixler![/quote]Did you know that I know somebody else named Bixler? Or did you just think I might find it interesting? (dying laughing)
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]Do we know his real age is 26? Guess I’m interested because he might need some minor league time.[/quote]No idea if he’s actually 26. Don’t know if they’ll ever know.
mb21Quote Reply
Better yet, watch the full version:
ACTQuote Reply
How long was Aroldis Chapman’s deal for? I’m cool with a similar gamble. If he has more power Cubs can probably stick him in a corner with Brett Jackson staying in CF. Cool.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I updated the post with the unedited version that ACT posted.
mb21Quote Reply
Aroldis Chapman lhp
6 years/$30.25M (2010-15)
6 years/$30.25M (2010-15)
signed by Cincinnati as an amateur free agent 1/11/10
$16.25M signing bonus ($1.5M at signing; $1.5M each Nov. 1, 2010-13; $1.25M each Nov. 1, 2014-20)
10:$1M, 11:$1M, 12:$2M, 13:$2M, 14:$3M, 15:$5M player option
Chapman must decide whether to accept or decline 2015 player option within 5 days after end of 2014 World Series
if Chapman qualifies for arbitration after 2012, $5M is converted to a bonus and he becomes arbitration-eligible
if Chapman qualifies for arbitration after 2013, $3M is converted to a bonus and he becomes arbitration-eligible
defected from Cuba to Netherlands 7/1/09
agent: Rodney Fernandez, Hendricks Sports
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]How long was Aroldis Chapman’s deal for? I’m cool with a similar gamble. If he has more power Cubs can probably stick him in a corner with Brett Jackson staying in CF. Cool.[/quote]I don’t know about power, but his Core Strength is off the charts.
ACTQuote Reply
Weekly Tebow update: can’t pass for shit, but Denver wins anyway.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Weekly Tebow update: can’t pass for shit, but Denver wins anyway.[/quote]
2-8 69 Yds 1 TD QB rating…102.6
(dying laughing)
Smokestack LightningQuote Reply
No need to insult him like that.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
It is as if no special teams coach in the NFL has adopted the “don’t kick in same zip code as Hester” rule yet.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I like that Thom Brennaman intimated that the Lions got screwed on that fumble. Yes, the team that does not pick the ball up is clearly entitled to it.
GBTSQuote Reply
Ryno —-> not the manager in STL
/Maury’d
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Best pass by Stafford all game! (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Cuey’s nickname for BFS was probably Fuckey.[/quote]
Fukudome already had dibs on that one.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Best pass by Stafford all game! (dying laughing)[/quote]Correct x2
Rice CubeQuote Reply
(dying laughing)ions
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Fukudome already had dibs on that one.[/quote]I think that one came from Lou.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I think that one came from Lou.[/quote]
Aye, but Cuey used it too
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Aye, but Cuey used it too[/quote]Indeed.
I want to see Stafford throw another INT-TD.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Smokestack Lightning]2-8 69 Yds 1 TD QB rating…102.6
(dying laughing)[/quote]If anyone needed a final piece of proof that QB rating is the batting average of football stats, this is it.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Ryno —-> not the manager in STL[/quote]Mike Matheny —-> the manager in STL
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Fukudome already had dibs on that one.[/quote]Fukudome was Fooky. BFS is Fuckey. Don’t you know anything? (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
I’ve decided that Johnny Knox is pretty shitty.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Dear Chris Conte,
That’s your ball, ass. Play the fucking position or GTFO.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]Did you know that I know somebody else named Bixler? Or did you just think I might find it interesting? (dying laughing)[/quote]Right, got your email. (dying laughing).
fang2415Quote Reply
Lions clearly going after Conte now, and he’s doing his best to justify that strategy.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Matt Stafford ————-> fat, whiny
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Matt Stafford ————-> fat, whiny[/quote]I can’t argue with you today.
Although his receivers have been off.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I can’t argue with you today.
Although his receivers have been off.[/quote]Yes. Pretty funny how the Lions are doing whatever they can to get Pettigrew and Johnson matched up on Conte’s side of the field. But now that he’s Lovie’s Guy™, he’ll play out the string.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Nick Fairley ————> fat, stupid
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Might be time to take Cutler out. DET’s line are, to a man, dirty fucking players.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Will Durant ———–> needs to take a close look at the scoreboard.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
The weeniefication of the NFL continues. Fucking Gooddell and his mamby pamby BS.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Don’t you like anything? (dying laughing)
Someone needs to get MO a Mad Hater hat
BerseliusQuote Reply
The Lions are dirty, weakassed motherfuckers. Fuck that team. They can dish it out, but they can’t handle it. Fuck you, DET.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]The weeniefication of the NFL continues. Fucking Gooddell and his mamby pamby BS.[/quote]The Briggs personal foul I presume. I thought he just stood there. The one at the beginning of the game where Peppers almost ripped the guy’s head off in forcing the fumble was much more egregious.
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Stafford ——–> fat, whiny, bitchmade cheapshot artist
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Matt Stafford is a fucking piece of shit.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Looks like the Bears guy started that fight. But Stafford still sucks.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Looks like the Bears guy started that fight. But Stafford still sucks.[/quote]Nope. Stafford yanked Moore down by his fucking helmet, then got punched his fat face, as he deserved. He could have broken Moore’s neck with that shit.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Nope. Stafford yanked Moore down by his fucking helmet, then got punched his fat face, as he deserved. He could have broken Moore’s neck with that shit.[/quote]Huh. I just realized they didn’t call a foul on Stafford. That’s baffling.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
EAT A BAG OF FROZEN LIZARD DICKS, STAFFORD
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Bears playing today?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]EAT A BAG OF FROZEN LIZARD DICKS, STAFFORD[/quote]They only have the canned lizard dicks here in Topeka.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Huh. I just realized they didn’t call a foul on Stafford. That’s baffling.[/quote]And they ejected Moore, but gave Stafford no penalty. But when the league looks at that tape, best believe Fuckpants Fatface is gonna make a significant donation to the league. I’m guessing 25-50K.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Bears playing today?[/quote]No, we’re talking about the Bula-Bula match.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Bears playing today?[/quote]Yessir. They seem to be the only ones who showed up in this one.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]No, we’re talking about the Bula-Bula match.[/quote]What channel is that one? (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]What channel is that one? (dying laughing)[/quote]69
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
I’m not sure Chris Conte knows what he’s supposed to do when the ball is thrown.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I’m not sure Chris Conte knows what he’s supposed to do when the ball is thrown.[/quote]Luckily the opponent is self-destructing to bail him out.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Reyes and Marlins? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/cbs-sports-says-reyes-and-marlins-have-no-deal.html
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]69[/quote]Is that like one less than 70?
mb21Quote Reply
Hanie in to take the lumps in place of Cutler.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Is that like one less than 70?[/quote]Depends on whether you want or need the answer.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Man, Louis and Spencer finish their blocks. Those guys both have a nasty streak to them.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
b, did Carimi play any LT at WIS?
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Is that like one less than 70?[/quote]
Spreadsheets don’t play the game
BerseliusQuote Reply
Stafford and Raiola talking over the finer points of cheapshotting.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]b, did Carimi play any LT at WIS?[/quote]
IIRC that’s all he played at WI. I think he stepped in around when Joe Thomas left, though my perception of time is pretty terrible.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]IIRC that’s all he played at WI. I think he stepped in around when Joe Thomas left, though my perception of time is pretty terrible.[/quote]That’s good news. I think when he come back, he might take over for Webb at LT, with Louis playing so well at RT.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]That’s good news. I think when he come back, he might take over for Webb at LT, with Louis playing so well at RT.[/quote]
I was really surprised when I saw that the Bears were going to play him at RT earlier this year. When you have 2 shitty tackles, why not play the rookie you drafted at the position he’s used to playing.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I was really surprised when I saw that the Bears were going to play him at RT earlier this year. When you have 2 shitty tackles, why not play the rookie you drafted at the position he’s used to playing.[/quote]Because he was the only one they viewed as competent at RT.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Bairz are awesome.
Lions are scumbags
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Chris Williams messed up his wrist during the game. Having surgery as we speak. No timetable on return. Damn, just when the OL was becoming respectable.
Rodrigo RamirezQuote Reply
Cool video. I like the behind the back catch the best.
Also, go Bears. And that was one hell of a dirty game.
binkyQuote Reply
http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7231973/sources-dale-sveum-gets-2nd-meeting-boston-red-sox
Boston likes Sveum. Wonder if this means Cubs will get Sandy.
ACTQuote Reply
So you think Maddux isn’t realistic?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
He’s realistic, but maybe less likely than Alomar and Mackanin.
ACTQuote Reply
I want Francona, Maddux, or Sveum. Disappointed if it ends up anyone else.
mb21Quote Reply
http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2011/11/cubs-hire-shiraz-rehman-as-an-asst-to-the-gm/
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2011/11/cubs-hire-shiraz-rehman-as-an-asst-to-the-gm/[/quote]Cool. Even more smrt guys.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=GW]http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2011/11/cubs-hire-shiraz-rehman-as-an-asst-to-the-gm/[/quote]The Randy Bush vs Shiraz Rehman assistant GM vs assistant to the GM will be grist for plenty of jokes (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Cool. Even more smrt guys.[/quote]”Won’t be needing this anymore!” *fire*
binkyQuote Reply
The NFL could use Lance Briggs’ hit on Calvin Johnson as an instructional video on how to properly make contact per their own rules. Led with the shoulder, didn’t contact his helmet, didn’t launch himself off the ground.
Naturally, he was still flagged. The NFL is a joke.
GBTSQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]No need to insult him like that.[/quote]So, nobody else copped that this guy’s name is Yo Anus.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]The NFL could use Lance Briggs’ hit on Calvin Johnson as an instructional video on how to properly make contact per their own rules. Led with the shoulder, didn’t contact his helmet, didn’t launch himself off the ground.
Naturally, he was still flagged. The NFL is a joke.[/quote]
In the Texas/Mizzou game, a Texas DB dropped a PERFECT form tackle on a Mizzou runner on third down. Wound up, put his head down and launched right at his sternum.
Right as he did that, the Mizzou runner dipped down, resulting in a helmet to helmet hit.
Personal foul, defense, No. 4. 15 yards. Next play, TD.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]In the Texas/Mizzou game, a Texas DB dropped a PERFECT form tackle on a Mizzou runner on third down. Wound up, put his head down and launched right at his sternum.
Right as he did that, the Mizzou runner dipped down, resulting in a helmet to helmet hit.
Personal foul, defense, No. 4. 15 yards. Next play, TD.[/quote]
Cool story, bro.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]So, nobody else copped that this guy’s name is Yo Anus.[/quote]After four years of cheering for Fuck-You-Do-Me, things like that have no meaning for us any more.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]So, nobody else copped that this guy’s name is Yo Anus.[/quote]Although it would still be amusing to see him, Kosuke, and Pujols end up on the same team.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]The Randy Bush vs Shiraz Rehman assistant GM vs assistant to the GM will be grist for plenty of jokes (dying laughing)[/quote]Greg Maddux was an assistant to the GM. I don’t really understand the difference, but I’m sure there is one. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
Can anyone with chemical background explain why sulfuric acid solution has a freezing point that looks like this?
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Greg Maddux was an assistant to the GM. I don’t really understand the difference, but I’m sure there is one. (dying laughing)[/quote]My hypothesis is that the assistant GM actually has GM-ish duties like setting up transactions, while the assistant to the GM does other baseball-related tasks that are not transaction-driven.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=WaLi]Can anyone with chemical background explain why sulfuric acid solution has a freezing point that looks like this?
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Because that is how God intended it.[/quote]Touché.
WaLiQuote Reply
Cool interview of Hellickson:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/qa-jeremy-hellickson/
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Because that is how DeRosa intended it.[/quote].
fang2415Quote Reply
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7233005/mlb-labor-talks-sides-close-oking-draft-tweaks-sources-say
me ———> sad
ACTQuote Reply
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/article/future_managers_discuss_numbers/
Huh. Not a lot to go on, but Alomar’s comment about matchup data makes me like him less.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7233005/mlb-labor-talks-sides-close-oking-draft-tweaks-sources-say
me ———> sad[/quote]Eww. If going above bonus restrictions is going to result in a penalty tax, I wonder how much that tax will be as the Cubs may still be willing to pay that penalty to get someone they really want.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7233005/mlb-labor-talks-sides-close-oking-draft-tweaks-sources-say
me ———> sad[/quote]
10 yd line in the red zone and about to score? How much time is left? Would a field goal win or do you need to score?
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/article/future_managers_discuss_numbers/
Huh. Not a lot to go on, but Alomar’s comment about matchup data makes me like him less.[/quote]I thought of all the candidates he was the one who said some dumb things. I thought the others sounded OK all things considered, but it was like Alomar went out of his way to disqualify from himself the job. Based on the bits I heard I cannot imagine that is who Thoyer wants leading this team. Maddux sounded the best overall, but Thoyer has worked with Sveum and know that he’s statistically inclined (more so than most coaches anyway). I’d be surprised it’s not Sveum, Maddux or Francona.
mb21Quote Reply
Why do you think it won’t be Mackanin?
ACTQuote Reply
Based on some of the quotes Tango highlights, I don’t think there’s any doubt that Alomar isn’t getting the job. For one thing, he has the least amount of coaching experience of any of the four candidates. He’s obviously less interested in using statistics than any of the others.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Why do you think it won’t be Mackanin?[/quote]It could be. I think I’ve been dismissive of him when I probably shouldn’t have been. He clearly hit in a couple of topics that the front office would love to hear from a manager so it’s possible. I’d just much prefer the Cubs someone younger than 60. Almoar is 45, Sveum is 47 and Maddux is 50.
mb21Quote Reply
It’s worth noting that this is what MacKinan said:
I don’t know if that’s the answer that they were exactly looking for. A .250 hitter is a .250 hitter as he says, but that .250 doesn’t tell us a whole lot. If all the information we had was a player’s batting average then we could probably get a pretty good idea of who the best players were. We’d miss a lot.
mb21Quote Reply
Aisle424Quote Reply
It sounded like Mackanin was trying to sound very on board with the advanced analytics without actually knowing much about them.
Like when my users always ask if the problem they are having with their computer could be the “firewall.”
Aisle424Quote Reply
Mackanin threw out a couple of buzzwords without apparently understanding them. It’s leverage (no d) indexes, and he seems to misunderstand what “replacement value” means.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It’s worth noting that this is what MacKinan said:
I don’t know if that’s the answer that they were exactly looking for. A .250 hitter is a .250 hitter as he says, but that .250 doesn’t tell us a whole lot. If all the information we had was a player’s batting average then we could probably get a pretty good idea of who the best players were. We’d miss a lot.[/quote]Sounds like the rest of the quote implies that he knows that BA is insufficient, but thinks of it more like a starting place? I assume that’s what “leveraged indexes” and “replacement value” imply. I saw some discussion on Facebook between a friend and a guy I didn’t know where the guy was saying he didn’t want Sveum at all. He didn’t give any reasons. To me, it’s a tossup. I’m fine with them picking Sveum or Sandberg or Antonio Sabato, Jr., if they think he’s the right guy. Lou was already old when they brought him in. He did an okay job, I thought. Toward the end he maybe was phoning it in, though.
binkyQuote Reply
Then again, it’s hard to know what to make from such short soundbites, and I think that being open to statistics is far more important for a manager than having a deep understanding of them.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]It sounded like Mackanin was trying to sound very on board with the advanced analytics without actually knowing much about them.
Like when my users always ask if the problem they are having with their computer could be the “firewall.”[/quote]The people my wife has to work with don’t even get this far. One lady thought the mouse with the “square connector” was only for laptops.
binkyQuote Reply
Personally, I have no a dog in this hunt. I doubt the difference between the best and worst candidate is significant enough to get worked up over.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Then again, it’s hard to know what to make from such short soundbites, and I think that being open to statistics is far more important for a manager than having a deep understanding of them.[/quote]If he’s willing to learn, that could be good. Everyone has to start somewhere. Maybe he doesn’t know it as well at the moment, but is delving. It took me a long time to figure out what the hell WAR and especially FIP meant. I had to look it up every time. I’m starting to get it now.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Sounds like the rest of the quote implies that he knows that BA is insufficient, but thinks of it more like a starting place? I assume that’s what “leveraged indexes” and “replacement value” imply. I saw some discussion on Facebook between a friend and a guy I didn’t know where the guy was saying he didn’t want Sveum at all. He didn’t give any reasons. To me, it’s a tossup. I’m fine with them picking Sveum or Sandberg or Antonio Sabato, Jr., if they think he’s the right guy. Lou was already old when they brought him in. He did an okay job, I thought. Toward the end he maybe was phoning it in, though.[/quote]Maybe he’d put some butts in seats by managing with his shirt off.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Personally, I have no a dog in this hunt. I doubt the difference between the best and worst candidate is significant enough to get worked up over.[/quote]I just wish they’d pick so we could move on. I know the off-season probably goes way too fast for GMs and way to slow for fans.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Maybe he’d put some butts in seats by managing with his shirt off.[/quote]That might be more valuable than the management strategy, when you get down to it.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Then again, it’s hard to know what to make from such short soundbites, and I think that being open to statistics is far more important for a manager than having a deep understanding of them.[/quote]Exactly. All I can safely say is that Alomar sounded much dumber than you’d think Thoyer would like to hire. Sveum has been known for being fond of sabermetrics. Maddux is known as a great pitching coach and is apparently open to all information. MacKanin said something interesting, but he may have just been throwing out key words on purpose.
mb21Quote Reply
BA top 10
Jackson
Baez
Sczzur
mcnutt
maples
beef castle
dolis
lake
vitters
vogelbomb
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Personally, I have no a dog in this hunt. I doubt the difference between the best and worst candidate is significant enough to get worked up over.[/quote]No, definitely not. I would like it to be one of the 3 I mentioned above. I really don’t want Alomar. MacKinan would be OK. I’m not going to get worked up over the Cubs hiring any of them.
mb21Quote Reply
Vitters still in the top 10? (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
sign me the fuck up
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
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mb21Quote Reply
http://ht.ly/7sTur
here is the link for subscribers.. chat at noon
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
I’m guessing Jackson hits closer to .250/.350/.450. If he can play average or better defense in CF that’s pretty damn good, but that .250 average is going to drive fans nuts.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I’m guessing Jackson hits closer to .250/.350/.450. If he can play average or better defense in CF that’s pretty damn good, but that .250 average is going to drive fans nuts.[/quote]That .250 doesn’t tell us a whole lot.
/Mackanin’d
Rice CubeQuote Reply
BAm’s projected lineups are pretty worthless, but I find it amusing that they have Vitters in LF:
PROJECTED 2015
LINEUP
Catcher Geovany Soto
First Base Dan Vogelbach
Second Base Zeke DeVoss
Third Base Javier Baez
Shortstop Starlin Castro
Left Field Josh Vitters
Center Field Matt Szczur
Right Field Brett Jackson
No. 1 Starter Matt Garza
No. 2 Starter Andrew Cashner
No. 3 Starter Trey McNutt
No. 4 Starter Dillon Maples
No. 5 Starter Dae-Eun Rhee
Closer Carlos Marmol
ACTQuote Reply
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If you have a speedy on-base-y guy in Szczur patrolling CF and a decent defender and similarly on-base-y guy in BJax hanging out in RF, that’s a pretty good coverage defensively and a pretty decent top-of-the-lineup going forward. Exciting, assuming they perform as expected.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
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mb21Quote Reply
Anyone want to quickly double their money?
Kansas State
Texas -9.5
(dying laughing)
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
I need to get on twitter to kill all the optimism generated by BA (dying laughing).
We need to write an OV handbook where we list the top 10 players and say they will all fail (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I need to get on twitter to kill all the optimism generated by BA (dying laughing).
We need to write an OV handbook where we list the top 10 players and say they will all fail (dying laughing)[/quote]Don’t you like anything?
I see Szczur’s 2011 didn’t end so well in Daytona, but small sample size blah blah blah.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I need to get on twitter to kill all the optimism generated by BA (dying laughing).
[/quote]That’s one reason I think those “projected lineups” do more harm than good.
ACTQuote Reply
Woah, Matt Kemp is going to get an eight-year extension. Are the Dodgers allowed to spend money? (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Vitters still in the top 10? (dying laughing)[/quote]Top 10 in this system is no great shakes. Vitters is still expected to be a big leaguer at some point, so the lower end of the top 10 seems about right.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]That’s one reason I think those “projected lineups” do more harm than good.[/quote]Yep. In 4 years people will say “the Cubs overhyped Dae-Eun Rhee. We were told he could be a star in the rotation and he’s not even reached MLB. Liars”
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I need to get on twitter to kill all the optimism generated by BA (dying laughing).
We need to write an OV handbook where we list the top 10 players and say they will all fail (dying laughing)[/quote]I’m on board with that.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Don’t you like anything?
I see Szczur’s 2011 didn’t end so well in Daytona, but small sample size blah blah blah.[/quote]BA made a good point about how Szczur had been playing baseball and football for a year straight with little or no break. Not surprising that he’d perform poorly considering that.
mb21Quote Reply
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mb21Quote Reply
The scouting report for Castillo can be summed up with this:
So does that mean he can barely move?
mb21Quote Reply
(dying laughing) @ every team in the AFC West having negative pt differential
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]The scouting report for Castillo can be summed up with this:
So does that mean he can barely move?[/quote]It means he’ll never catch Zeno’s tortoise.
binkyQuote Reply
From what I’ve seen of Jackson, which is actually a pretty fair amount, I’d say BA is right on with that scouting report. Honestly, I’m not sure if I would quibble with anything about it. Glad to hear they’re as high on Jackson as I am. Even if he’s a .260 hitter, I think he’s gonna be a very valuable player. His impeding promotion is easily what has me most excited about the 2012 season.
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Cubs 1st round picks from 02-05 (dying laughing)
Year Player, Position 2011 Org.
2002 Bobby Brownlie, rhp Out of baseball
2003 Ryan Harvey, of Red Sox
2004 Grant Johnson, rhp (2nd round) Out of baseball
2005 Mark Pawelek, lhp Out of baseball
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[quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]Cubs 1st round picks from 02-05 (dying laughing)
Year Player, Position 2011 Org.
2002 Bobby Brownlie, rhp Out of baseball
2003 Ryan Harvey, of Red Sox
2004 Grant Johnson, rhp (2nd round) Out of baseball
2005 Mark Pawelek, lhp Out of baseball[/quote]Why stop at 2005? The LULZ continue through the Hayden Simpson pick!
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rodrigo Ramirez]Cubs 1st round picks from 02-05 (dying laughing)
Year Player, Position 2011 Org.
2002 Bobby Brownlie, rhp Out of baseball
2003 Ryan Harvey, of Red Sox
2004 Grant Johnson, rhp (2nd round) Out of baseball
2005 Mark Pawelek, lhp Out of baseball[/quote]In the Cubs defense, Harvey had an outstanding AVG and Brownlie, Johnson, Pawelek all had very low ERA’s when drafted. It’s just variance that they all busted.
WaLiQuote Reply
2006 was Colvin (turned out better than expected, but was dumber than shit at the time), Vitters (still could work out), Cashner, Jackson, Simpson and Baez.
2001 was Mark Prior.
Ignoring Bobby Brrownlie since he was a 2nd round pick, here are the good picks at the time: Prior, Vitters, Jackson, Baez.
Not all the rest were bad. I don’t think Ryan Harvey was a bad pick at all. Cashner wasn’t a bad pick either.
Still, you’d expect to have more than 4 first rounds picks in a decade that were good decisions at the time.
mb21Quote Reply
I liked the Harvey pick.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]2006 was Colvin (turned out better than expected, but was dumber than shit at the time), Vitters (still could work out), Cashner, Jackson, Simpson and Baez.
2001 was Mark Prior.
Ignoring Bobby Brrownlie since he was a 2nd round pick, here are the good picks at the time: Prior, Vitters, Jackson, Baez.
Not all the rest were bad. I don’t think Ryan Harvey was a bad pick at all. Cashner wasn’t a bad pick either.
Still, you’d expect to have more than 4 first rounds picks in a decade that were good decisions at the time.[/quote]Yeah, the Colvin and Simpson picks aside, I think this is a tale of player development FAIL rather than drafting FAIL.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Hey, Cubs, let me come to you.
Or not…
The DraftQuote Reply
I think I was just (dying laughing) at all the “out of baseball” statements attached to those picks.
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[quote name=Rice Cube]Woah, Matt Kemp is going to get an eight-year extension. Are the Dodgers allowed to spend money? (dying laughing)[/quote]
Take him out of the free agent pool for 2013, and you have exactly zero top tier bats under the age of 30 hitting the market. If the Superfriends are serious about every year being sacred or, fuck that, just putting a team on the field worth plunking down dollars to watch, then with the minor league system being what it is they’re going to have to do something big in free agency to rebuild the offense, and they’d better do it now choosing between Pujols and Fielder.
Smokestack LightningQuote Reply
K-State is going to own TX Ryno. Just accept it.
dylanjQuote Reply
Melissa is a fucking rock star.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/14/melissa-rakestraw-joe-wal_n_1092275.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=2354652,b=facebook
Aisle424Quote Reply
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Melissa is a fucking rock star.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/14/melissa-rakestraw-joe-wal_n_1092275.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=2354652,b=facebook%5B/quote%5DWe knew her before they every heard of her.
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[quote name=Aisle424](dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)[/quote]That would scare me too.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
NL ROY —> Kimbrel
AL ROY —> Hellickson
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]NL ROY —> Kimbrel
AL ROY —> Hellickson[/quote]Who?
Who?
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Who?
Who?[/quote]
Who #1 = Craig Kimbrel, Atlanta closer.
Who #2 = Jeremy Hellickson, Rays starter.
I’m not sure I’m okay with Who #1.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Who?
Who?[/quote]
One of them allowed the Cardinals into the playoffs by blowing a save in Game 162.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424](dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)[/quote]That was awesome.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-theo-on-compensation-talks-im-just-not-worth-that-much-20111114,0,5826882.story?track=rss
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Aisle424Quote Reply
Kimbrel was worth about 3 wins, so I think he’s deserving of votes, but unanimously? Not sure I like that.
/doesn’t like anything’d
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Who #1 = Craig Kimbrel, Atlanta closer.
Who #2 = Jeremy Hellickson, Rays starter.
I’m not sure I’m okay with Who #1.[/quote]In my head I was thinking “Craig Kimbrel” but that’s exactly as much as I knew about him. I figured he was probably a pitcher of some sort.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424](dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)[/quote]Rockstar.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=WaLi]Can anyone with chemical background explain why sulfuric acid solution has a freezing point that looks like this?
I don’t remember exactly. You’ve got the freezing point of water on the left axis and the freezing point of sulfuric on the right. The colligative properties of a solvent dictate that the freezing point depresses in proportion to the number of particles in solution. In the case of sulfuric acid, possible particles are H (x2), SO4 -2, HSO4-, and H2SO4.
Start at left axis. Addition of acid to the water will result in the more or less complete dissociation of the acid into two hydrogens ions and a sulfate. The absolute minima will correspond to the point beyond which the number of particles in solution decreases, as hydrogens are driven to associate with sulfates as HSO4 and H2SO4.
If we start at the right axis and add water, we will get severe acid burns. But conceptually, I’m guessing the two local minima correspond to maximal solvation of each of the protons. Insert some hand-waving here.
GWQuote Reply
Pap ——-> Phillies.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Pap ——-> Phillies.[/quote]READ THE PREVIOUS THREADS.
/Rob G.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]READ THE PREVIOUS THREADS.
/Rob G.[/quote]solly. I’ve been busy.
binkyQuote Reply
Colligative properties are why salt, which forms separate sodium and chloride ions, is better than sand at de-icing the roads, btw.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]Colligative properties are why salt, which forms separate sodium and chloride ions, is better than sand at de-icing the roads, btw.[/quote]Is that also why Coke is better than Pepsi?
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]I don’t remember exactly. You’ve got the freezing point of water on the left axis and the freezing point of sulfuric on the right. The colligative properties of a solvent dictate that the freezing point depresses in proportion to the number of particles in solution. In the case of sulfuric acid, possible particles are H (x2), SO4 -2, HSO4-, and H2SO4.
Start at left axis. Addition of acid to the water will result in the more or less complete dissociation of the acid into two hydrogens ions and a sulfate. The absolute minima will correspond to the point beyond which the number of particles in solution decreases, as hydrogens are driven to associate with sulfates as HSO4 and H2SO4.
If we start at the right axis and add water, we will get severe acid burns. But conceptually, I’m guessing the two local minima correspond to maximal solvation of each of the protons. Insert some hand-waving here.[/quote]Interesting, thanks. We handle 93% and sometimes 96% here. I was updating some safety information and had to find the freezing point for 96% and came across that graph and found it intriguing.
On another note, how the hell does freezing point and melting point mean the same thing (dying laughing)
Obviously it is because it depends on what phase you are coming from, but it is annoying when you are searching for freezing point information but can’t find it because you should be searching for melting point (dying laughing)
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]READ THE PREVIOUS THREADS.
/Rob G.[/quote]I went through the last three comment threads and didn’t see anything on this.
Who is Rob G?
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I went through the last three comment threads and didn’t see anything on this.
Who is Rob G?[/quote]You didn’t read every post.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I went through the last three comment threads and didn’t see anything on this.
Who is Rob G?[/quote]Rob G. runs a Cubs blog and is constantly castigating people for bringing up previously discussed topics.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]You didn’t read every word.[/quote].
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder].[/quote]RC —-> no dinner
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]You didn’t read every post.[/quote]I did do a search for “pap” and “phil” but found nothing. and I just got the MLBTR rumor like 20 minutes ago, so I assumed I was breaking the story, Cubs reporter style.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I did do a search for “pap” and “phil” but found nothing. and I just got the MLBTR rumor like 20 minutes ago, so I assumed I was breaking the story, Cubs reporter style.[/quote]In fact, you did break it Cubs reporter style. 2 days late. (dying laughing) I’m assuming the deal was finalized today, though. I heard 4 years/$50 mil a couple days ago. Are those the numbers MLBTR has?
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Supposedly the deal was for 4 years/$50,000,058.
The $58 being a good luck thing for Pappy.
binkyQuote Reply
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-big-ten-takes-paterno-name-off-trophy-20111114,0,3662926.story
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Supposedly the deal was for 4 years/$50,000,058.
The $58 being a good luck thing for Pappy.[/quote]That was probably the kicker. Think of how many Philly cheesesteaks you can buy with $58!
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-big-ten-takes-paterno-name-off-trophy-20111114,0,3662926.story[/quote]Outstanding.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Mark Ellis signing on with the Dodgers. Unless that’s already been discussed, then I didn’t say anything.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Outstanding.[/quote]Also inevitable. Surprised it took them this long.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=josh]Mark Ellis signing on with the Dodgers. Unless that’s already been discussed, then I didn’t say anything.[/quote]Nice snark.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
The political talk will stop now! (dying laughing)
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]The political talk will stop now! (dying laughing)[/quote]
You lie!
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]You lie![/quote]
That ain’t true! I’m a man! I’m 40!
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]The political talk will stop now! (dying laughing)[/quote]I AM TIRED OF THIS CRAP! GIVE ME MORE COFFEE!
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I AM TIRED OF THIS CRAP! GIVE ME MORE COFFEE![/quote]
[quote name=melissa]make it a decaf[/quote]
.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Nice snark.[/quote]I’ve been taking notes.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]The political talk will stop now! (dying laughing)[/quote]In this situation, who can we most accurately say got “tea bagged”?
I’m sorry that joke wrote itself. I apologize for my fingers.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I’ve been taking notes.[/quote]Truly, you are Inspector Javert to my Ignatius O’Reilly.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]In this situation, who can we most accurately say got “tea bagged”?
I’m sorry that joke wrote itself. I apologize for my fingers.[/quote]FLAGGED
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
I’m ready to get back to focusing on what’s important in the world, like Theo and the Superfriends. Any background info on the new Dwight Schrute of the Cubs?
melissaQuote Reply
NBA –> Disbanding the union.
… not like anyone cares. NBA sucks.
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]I’m ready to get back to focusing on what’s important in the world, like Theo and the Superfriends. Any background info on the new Dwight Schrute of the Cubs?[/quote]Sullivan, Gordo and Miles will have some info in about 6 months.
mb21Quote Reply
What purpose does disbanding the union accomplish?
mb21Quote Reply
This reminds me of when the Springfield PTA disbanded.
MishQuote Reply
In risk of being accused of not reading every comment:
“Cubs announce they’ve named Shiraz Rehman assistant to the GM. Had spent six seasons with the D’Backs.”
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]What purpose does disbanding the union accomplish?[/quote]Can now sue the NBA under anti-trust laws and challenge the lockout.
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]I’m ready to get back to focusing on what’s important in the world, like Theo and the Superfriends. Any background info on the new Dwight Schrute of the Cubs?[/quote]Players now paid in Schrutebucks.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]This reminds me of when the Springfield PTA disbanded purple monkey dishwasher.[/quote]
fixed
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Players now paid in Schrutebucks.[/quote]
That currency is in danger of defaulting, thanks to the actions of Creed Bratton. In an uncertain economy, the only stable investment is Stanley Nickels. Or porn.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]I’m ready to get back to focusing on what’s important in the world, like Theo and the Superfriends. Any background info on the new Dwight Schrute of the Cubs?[/quote]Fact: Bears like beets.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]That currency is in danger of defaulting, thanks to the actions of Creed Bratton. In an uncertain economy, the only stable investment is Stanley Nickels. Or alien porn.[/quote].
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]That currency is in danger of defaulting, thanks to the actions of Creed Bratton. In an uncertain economy, the only stable investment is Stanley Nickels. Or porn.[/quote]Creeds were discovered to actually just be sprouted mung beans.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Fact: Bears like beets.[/quote]False.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]Fact: Bears like beets.[/quote]
Bears.
Beets.
Battlestar Galactica.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]I’m ready to get back to focusing on what’s important in the world, like Theo and the Superfriends. Any background info on the new Dwight Schrute of the Cubs?[/quote]He is enforcing a new “Accountability Booster”. If the Cubs are caught with either a TOOTBLAN or sacrifice bunting, a mistake is registered. When five mistakes are made within a week, you get a home run. When you get a home run, you are out. Once the Cubs are out, incrimanating emails will automatically be sent to Bud Selig which will force him to dismantle the Cubs.
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Bears.
Beets.
Battlestar Galactica.[/quote]
MICHAEL!!!
Aisle424Quote Reply
Astros ———-> AL in 2013
Crane ————–> got his $50m discount for agreeing
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Astros ———-> AL in 2013
Crane ————–> got his $50m discount for agreeing[/quote]I should have bought the Astros. I could do so much with that $50 million.
mb21Quote Reply
Any word on whether or not there will still be divisions?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Any word on whether or not there will still be divisions?[/quote]www.willtherestillbedivisions.com
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
new shit: http://obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/carlos-zambranos-trade-value.html
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]No idea if he’s actually 26. Don’t know if they’ll ever know.[/quote]Cespedes is 26…listen Sir…nothing personal, but Cespedes is Cuban , not Dominican…Cubans from Cuba never ever had an Issue with Roids or Age….all of that comes from here and the Dominicans who are the biggest Cheaters in the world..about 600 of them in the minors since 2005 have tested positive for Roids.
Mario M EscotoQuote Reply
Some of you are confussing places and names here…and the worst thing any of you can do is talk about something none of you know about it and that’s …Cuba’s Baseball.
the reason Dominicana has MLB players by the Dozen is cheating and cuba hasn’t had a player drafted from the Island in 52 years….because of politics, but if you go back , since the very beggining , Cuba was the only country tat had 20/25/30 layers in the majors from Latin america since the early 1900…until the late 70’s….dominicans came a very few in the 50’s (2) and then in the late 70’s , almost 80’s….cuba and venezuela have better players than DR even with them having more…its just a bunch of body bags…despite the non drafting cuba has almost 30 MLB players…half of them Cuban Americans…if Afraud counts as dominican , we have the right to count Avila , Hosmer and chris perez as Cuban americans…among 15 other..like Valencia, andino, Ibanez, Arroyo, Arencibia, coello, Sean Rodriguez, Jay……..Gaby Sanchez…
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