Cubs @ Marlins Game Thread

In Game Threads by dmick89147 Comments

Time: 3:10 PM CT
TV: WGN
Series Preview
Gameday

LINEUPS

Cubs logo

Jason Heyward, RF
Kris Bryant, 3B
Anthony Rizzo, 1B
Willson Contreras, LF
Javier Baez, 2B
Addison Russell, SS
Miguel Montero, C
John Lackey, P
Albert Almora, Jr., CF

miami-marlins

Ichiro Suzuki, CF
Martin Prado, 3B
Christian Yelich, LF
Giancarlo Stanton, RF
Justin Bour, 1B
Derek Dietrich, 2B
J.T. Realmuto, C
Adeiny Hechavarria, SS
Paul Clemens, P

Will the Cubs win? Nope. Not today. Not ever.

538 Forecast: 64% chance of winning

Share this Post

Comments

  1. Author
    dmick89

    This game is starting poorly for John. Winning tomorrow will be really difficult so they kind of need this in order to avoid losing 3 of 4 to the fucking Marlins.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  2. Julio Borbon, mike Scott and mike fiers

    I’m on the red line. We just past Addison. Phish phans are OLD. Like gray hair old.

    Which, since I remember not liking Phish when they were still s going concern, means I am old. Though not as old as phish phans.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  3. Author
    dmick89

    SK,

    That sounds right. They were pretty big among my friends in college, which would have been early to mid 90s. I just figured why Phish when I can listen to The Dead? (dying laughing)

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  4. cerulean

    dmick89,

    Phish created a fervent following rivaled only by the Dead, which led to some consternation from old deadheads after they continued to gain popularity after Garcia passed away. I have much respect for Phish for walking away from touring when they felt it had become rote and the drugs became too much.

    Now Phish is a self-contained operation that has generated a lot of money since they reformed doing what they do best—live music, no label necessary. It’s a pretty great business story no matter your thoughts on the music.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  5. Author
    dmick89

    cerulean,

    I always liked the music and had a mental note to check it out more. I just never did. I will probably see if I can download their Wrigley concerts. Wouldn’t mind listening to that.

    This game went to shit.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  6. cerulean

    dmick89,

    I got a mixtape of some of their better songs a friends gave me in the late nineties, then the live album Slip, Stitch, and Pass. Being a guitarist and a lover of improvisation, the appeal was pretty immediate, though for me it was more of a stepping stone to jazz on the one hand and indie music on the other. I should definitely listen to Hampton Comes Alive again—it’s great driving and working and cleaning music.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  7. Author
    dmick89

    cerulean,

    I wonder if the Cubs might be looking for a Miller and Beltran trade at some point in the near future. Beltran would give them that big left-handed bat they lost when Schwarber went down, he’s relatively cheap for what he’s worth and he’s a free agent after the season. What would it take to get those two? Any interest?

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  8. cerulean

    dmick89,

    What would it take? More than Dan Vogelbach, unfortunately. The Yankees would want young and ready/nearly ready—a trade that they can sell as a buy to their fans, which is fortunate because any amount of talent I put together seems like too much from the Cubs perspective without also being a bit of a sell. So I would try to work out at least a three-for-three deal, the Cubs getting about a potential rotation arm, two or three years away.

    The righty Domingo Acevedo would be nice—he apparently hit 103mph (!) with his fastball. But I am guessing would take something like Baez, Happ, Vogelbach, and maybe Szczur. Jordan Montgomery is a big lefty with far less velocity and less of a ceiling than Acevedo that could probably had with the likes of Soler, Candelario, Vogelbach, and maybe Villanueva (if they can trade his elite defense and broken fibula).

    I have this problem when trying to work out trades of simultaneously undervaluing and overvaluing players. It seems like every Cubs prospect has been actually good at the MLB level—like a 2 to 5 WAR player right out of the gate. Times four to six years of control, that is immensely valuable. They all seem like major leaguers, able to contribute to a playoff team. So both trade seem like overpays from the Cubs perspective. But I’d do either one.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  9. Smokestack Lightning

    All right. I don’t believe I ordered this inevitable regression + too many injuries combo. How do I send this shit back?

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  10. cerulean

    Let’s play a game called “How good are the Cubs, really?”

    They started out 25–6. They are now 48–25. Since that torrid start, they are a mere four games over .500 at 23–19. Certainly an ugly stretch. In their last twenty they are 10–10. Just awful.

    Now I know how Yankees fans feel.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  11. Rizzo the Rat

    Fortunately, the rest of the NL Central teams have been losing lately, so the Cubs’ crappiness of late hasn’t hurt them in the standings. e.g., the Cardinals’ sweep of the Cubs comprises their only three victories in recent memory.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  12. berselius

    dmick89:
    Zobrist is in the lineup today.

    Full squadron:

    Zobrist
    Heyward (cf)
    Bryant
    Rizzo
    Contreras (LF)
    Montero
    Russell
    Coghlan (RF)
    Hammel

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  13. berselius

    Should be fun times defensively today, though I don’t necessarily miss Almora’s bat in the lineup either.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  14. Author
    dmick89

    berselius,

    Especially against Fernandez. I wouldn’t minded to have seen Bryant get the day off today with Baez playing 3rd. This would have been the perfect day to have Adam Warren start.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  15. berselius

    Stupid east coast games. This is the second time this series that I’ve missed the start time by an hour (dying laughing).

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  16. cerulean

    The Cubs are 4–6 in their last ten and have lost no ground on any team in the Central, only the Brewers keeping pace.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  17. cerulean

    Texas has been crazy lucky this year, though history says that will change come October. I am hoping all the Cubs’ misfortune get bored and leave come the playoffs.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  18. Author
    dmick89

    cerulean,

    I have a close friend who is as big a Giants fan as I am a Cubs fan so I was happy to see them win it in 2010 and I was happy to see them win in 2014 because didn’t want to listen to Royals fans all year.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  19. Rizzo the Rat

    I liked the Giants in 2010 when they surprised everyone. They were a quirky, likeable team. By 2014 I was thinking, “enough already.”

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  20. berselius

    *pours one out for Yahoo sports*. This year they added tweets to their play by play feed and even more inexplicably batted ball locations for every PA

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  21. Rizzo the Rat

    The story of this year has been tons of strikeouts and home runs. I want baserunners to hang on for dear life.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  22. Rizzo the Rat

    I knew the Cubs’ starters couldn’t keep it up all year, but why do they all have to struggle at once?

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  23. cerulean

    Artificial light during a day game is awful. The humid heat is oppressive without a roof. No wonder nobody comes to the games.

    Miami is the worst big city by far. I for one won’t cry when it succumbs to the sea.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  24. cerulean

    Call up Vogelbach for the Cincy series so that he can continue to feast on AAA pitching and increase his trade value.

    If there is any way to get the Cubs right, it’s Cincy pitching.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  25. cerulean

    Another trade idea:

    Hammel, Soler, Vogelbach, Candelario, and Villanueva for Eovaldi, Miller, Beltran, and Acevedo.

    Hammel has been good and Eovaldi has not, but I would like to see what Bosio might do for Eovaldi for the next two years. He has stuff, but something is not working. The Yankees get youthful depth at positions of dire need (1B, DH, 3B, OF) that would probably be far more productive than what they have now and a good SP. The Cubs get two years of the best lefty and a fixer-upper, a veteran lefty bat that might bring some more of that Cardinals’ devil magic and won’t block Schwarber, and a possible strikeout stud for the rotation in 2018 and beyond.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0
  26. cerulean

    I forgot, you can’t trade Hammel to the Yanks. Without a beard, he’s barely serviceable.

    Replace Hammel with Hendricks and add Montogomery with some cash on the Yankees end.

      Quote  Reply

    0

    0

Leave a Comment