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  • Soriano, his Bat, and Momentum

    Hitting a baseball is all about momentum. Momentum is a vector describing a "quantity of motion" or in mathematical terms p (momentum) = mass * velocity. In a closed system, momentum is conserved. Conservation of momentum means that the harder you throw the ball, the harder the ball will bounce back. Think in the case of throwing a ball against a solid wall. The harder you throw the ball, the harder it bounces back. This is easy to see in the case that fast balls tend to be hit harder and further than curve balls. What this also means is that the bat transfers momentum to the ball. This is why it can be better to use a heavier bat if you can swing it just as fast. The momentum is a product of the mass and velocity, so a heavier bat swung with the same speed as a lighter bat will have more momentum.
     
    But real life is not a closed system, so in the process of hitting a baseball you will lose some momentum. Part of this momentum is lost in the deformation of the ball and to a lesser extent the bat.
     

     
    A number to determine what this compression does to the ball is called the Coefficient of Restitution (COR). The COR rating for a baseball is 0.555, which means a ball will return 55.5% as fast as it came in. When I used this number with another known my numbers didn’t come out correct and I think this is due to the COR of a bat. I was able to get the numbers to work if I use a COR for ball + bat of .37.
     
    The formula for the balls exit speed will be:

    Where:
    va is the final velocity of the first object after impact (ball)
    vb is the final velocity of the second object after impact (bat)
    ua is the initial velocity of the first object before impact (ball)
    ub is the initial velocity of the second object before impact  (bat)
    ma is the mass of the first object (ball)
    mb is the mass of the second object (bat)
    Cr is the coefficient of restitution
     
    What we can assume is that Alfonso Soriano isn’t swinging the bat as fast due to his aging. He just can’t swing the bat as fast he can when he was younger. Let’s say 6 years ago in 2006 when he had 46 home runs his bat speed was 81 mph*.  We know the weight of his bat was 33 oz. So his momentum is 81 mph * 33 oz = 2673 mph*oz (this is a made up unit, but it will work). Let’s say that over the years his bat speed has dropped 3% to 78.55 mph while still swinging the same bat. The new bat speed momentum is 78.55 mph * 33 oz = 2592 mph*oz. This is going to relate to less momentum being transferred to the ball which means the balls aren’t going fly as far. Soriano may still hit a 95 mph fastball** out of the park if he makes contact with it, but an 85 mph curveball may not have enough momentum to make it out of the park.
     
    *I am using 81 mph because I read that Albert Pujols’ bat speed was 86.99 mph with a 31.5 oz bat. This gives us a momentum of 2740 mph  * oz. I’m just going to assume Soriano is his prime was a little worse than that. For reference, it is said that Babe Ruth had a 54 oz bat and swung at an estimated 75 mph.
     
    **A baseball has a weight between 5 oz and 5 ¼ oz. This gives an average weight of 5.125. At 95 mph, the ball has a momentum of 486.9 mph*oz. At 85 mph, the ball has a momentum of 435.6 mph*oz.

     
    Sveum has asked Soriano to drop his bat weight down an ounce, from 33 ounces to 32 ounces. This is to increase his bat speed. In our previous example I assumed that Soriano had a bat speed of 81 mph. If he returns to this bat speed with the loss of an ounce, his new momentum will be 81 mph * 32 oz =  2592 mph*oz which is where it was with a larger bat at a slower speed. What it looks like though is that the exit speed of the ball will be more, even if he uses a lighter bat, so it should pay off.
     
    Another thing to consider is that the change in bat speed will effect where the ball will make contact with the bat. He may be late with the swing or quicker with swing so that will effect where the ball goes.

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    111 Responses to “Soriano, his Bat, and Momentum”

    1. 1 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Nice work, WaLi!

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    2. 2 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      The longer LaHair continues this streak, the more afraid I become of a drastic and precipitous regression. That 30% K-rate, outlandish BABiP and Pujols-esque ISO haunt me.

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    3. Rice Cube 3 Rice Cube says:

      Despite all the random numbers, this actually made sense. Kudos to Wali.

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    4. Aisle424 4 Aisle424 says:

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    5. 5 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Aisle424:
      FLAGGED

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    6. Rizzo the Rat 6 ACT says:

      This is why you don’t give Dempster runs.

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    7. Rice Cube 7 Rice Cube says:

      Whoops. If you saw the pitch location on Gameday…

      I’m surprised that wasn’t a grand slam, that ball had “KILL ME” written all over it.

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    8. Berselius 8 Berselius says:

      Good throw and execution from Campana and the rest of the defense

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    9. 9 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I guess Dempster decided he didn’t want to wait for the bullpen to fuck it up.

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    10. 10 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      ACT wrote:

      This is why you don’t give Dempster nice things.

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    11. 11 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Gameday says Dempster has lost the handle on his 4-seamer.

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    12. Rizzo the Rat 12 ACT says:

      Dempster can’t win.

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    13. 13 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      BABiP regression happening all in one inning for Dempster.

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    14. GBTS 14 GBTS says:

      This is pretty good Wali, but I think mine was a little more thorough.

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    15. Rizzo the Rat 15 ACT says:

      LaHair stole a base!

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    16. 16 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      LaHair is going to win the Triple Crown this year and lead the league in SB%. Superstar.

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    17. 17 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Was that pitch as meaty as it looked on Gameday? Because to me, it looks like Soriano just turned a hanging slider into a fucking WAG.

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    18. Rizzo the Rat 18 ACT says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Productive out!

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    19. 19 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:
      Two years ago, that’s a productive HR.

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    20. 20 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Ugh, Soto. Terrible AB.

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    21. Rice Cube 21 Rice Cube says:

      I like this IBB…they’re basically forcing Dempster out of the game even though he’s had a bad inning and should be out anyway.

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    22. Berselius 22 Berselius says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      It was a check swing from Soriano, must have thought it was a fb or something

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    23. Berselius 23 Berselius says:

      Clown shoes on those sliders

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    24. 24 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      At this time last year, Reed Johnson had an 1.078 OPS.

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    25. Rizzo the Rat 25 ACT says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      It was a bad call by the Cards (though I’m less concerned about the bad inning than I am about the fact that Demp has been through the order 3 times already).

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    26. 26 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      Ugh. on Gameday that looked like a pitch he should have airmailed.

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    27. Rice Cube 27 Rice Cube says:

      I wonder if Sveum wanted to save Cardenas for another AB or something. I guess he figured Matheny would switch in a LOOGY.

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    28. 28 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Helluva AB from DeJesus.

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    29. Rizzo the Rat 29 ACT says:

      Yadi is having a bad day.

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    30. Rizzo the Rat 30 ACT says:

      Starlin bunting?!?!

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    31. Rizzo the Rat 31 ACT says:

      Way to go, Dale.

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    32. Berselius 32 Berselius says:

      Only the Cubs

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    33. 34 WaLi22 says:

      What the Fuck.

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    34. GW 35 GW says:

      dammit

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    35. 36 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      goddamit, if a bunch of idiots on computers in living rooms drinking beers know that a sac bunt is a moronic move, why is it so hard for an MLB manager

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    36. Berselius 37 Berselius says:

      Against all odds (dying laughing)

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    37. Rizzo the Rat 38 ACT says:

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    38. 39 WaLi22 says:

      Lighter bat! (dying laughing)

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    39. 40 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      if brett boone and rick sutcliffe know that Lahair is gonna get walked if Castro bunts, why the fuck don’t dale swayme? Time for him to get a chat from Theo the same way he gave to Campana earlier in the game

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    40. Rice Cube 41 Rice Cube says:

      @ Recalcitrant Blogger Nate:
      I got nothin’…

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    41. 42 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Sveum is a fucking idiot.

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    42. 43 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      That Castro sac bunt was the dumbest thing I’ve seen since Neifi’s two outs in the bottom of the ninth bunt.

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    43. Berselius 44 Berselius says:

      Even Carrie Muskat was scratching her head at Castro bunting

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    44. 45 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Berselius:
      I don’t think even Sveum knows why he did that.

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    45. josh 46 josh says:

      Hey guys, i was curious what your opinion was on having one of the best hitters on the team bunt with runners on first and second and the fastest guy on the team on first. I was curious if you guys thought that was a good idea and a bad idea.

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    46. josh 47 josh says:

      Soto getting hit is about the best chance he has of getting on base these days. Epic slumpage!

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    47. Berselius 48 Berselius says:

      @ josh:

      There’s a lot of debate in the scientific community on this one

      /Global Warming

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    48. Berselius 49 Berselius says:

      (dying laughing)maker

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    49. josh 50 josh says:

      More bunting, gents! Sure do love a gaming bunt!

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    50. Rizzo the Rat 51 ACT says:

      Sveum pulled a homer!

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    51. Berselius 52 Berselius says:

      So many bunts

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    52. josh 53 josh says:

      This sucks. All this does is justify, in Sveum’s mind, the bunt.

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    53. 54 WaLi22 says:

      These positive results are only supporting his negative actions

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    54. Rice Cube 55 Rice Cube says:

      Miracle! :-D

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    55. Rice Cube 56 Rice Cube says:

      Hey WaLi, are you able to write a similar piece re: the corked bat and its effect on a batted ball?

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    56. josh 57 josh says:

      I didn’t even know Campana was allowed to swing. And now I know why it’s so rare to see.

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    57. 58 WaLi22 says:

      @ Rice Cube: I don’t think it will be a full post but I’ll put together a detailed comment tomorrow

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    58. Rice Cube 59 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      If anything, HE should have bunted to squeeze that run in (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)

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    59. josh 60 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Exactly, prime bunting situation right there.

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    60. 61 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Dale Sveum is a unmitigated disaster. I want him gone. Like, yesterday.

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    61. josh 62 josh says:

      I like the double punch strikeout maneuver by the umpire. That’s my favorite way to see that called.

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    62. Berselius 63 Berselius says:

      Wow, Dolis actually looked pretty good today

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    63. josh 64 josh says:

      Well I’ll just be double god damned. 1-2-3 inning by Dolis.

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    64. 65 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      That inning was just managing FAIL after managing FAIL and it all worked out.

      If by “working out” one means “getting two runs when you could have gotten at least double that amount.”

      Even when this team succeeds it fails, because they are managed by a fucking myopic moron.

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    65. Rizzo the Rat 66 ACT says:

      2 strikeouts looking for Dolis (the only kind of strikeouts he is capable of getting).

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    66. 67 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Sveum’s postgame PC will be like watching a puppy who’s caught its tail and thinks it’s an achievement.

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    67. josh 68 josh says:

      @ ACT:
      The umpire seemed to be calling any borderline pitch tonight. Which is fine. Works well for guys like Dolis who hang out right at the bottom of the zone.

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    68. 69 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Man, Dolis sat ‘em down.

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    69. 70 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:
      He was probably anxious to get back to the umpires room so they could all have a good laugh about the festival of bad they just saw.

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    70. josh 71 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Yeah, the stubborn refusal to let his hitters hit is frustrating. We might have walked out of Milwaukee with at least one win if he just lets anyone not named Tony Campana swing away. At least this was a win. I mean, we’re not going to win the World Series, but I still like to see them beat the damn cards.

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    71. Berselius 72 Berselius says:

      Cubs ————> 4th place
      Cubs ————-> Still in last place

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    72. Rice Cube 73 Rice Cube says:

      I do like the defensive shifts Sveum has been employing and there does seem to be some improved defense but the AGGRESSIVE BASERUNNING and the buntfest need to be cut down. I guess the front office is still secretly hoping for a top 5 pick which is why they haven’t had the Billy Beane talk with Sveum yet.

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    73. 74 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:
      I like a win any time. But the sheer amount of mental mistakes in the 8th and 9th innings, taken in concert with his auto-bunt and AGGRESSIVE BASERUNNING strategies, makes me think that once you get ol’ Dale away from his precious spray charts, he’s just a stick-in-the-mud baseball guy like most managers.

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    74. 75 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      The shifts are nice, but any moron who can read a spray chart can set that up. He was fucking up basic shit for two straight innings. That was like watching Mike Martz try to manage the clock.

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    75. Rizzo the Rat 76 ACT says:

      This is why I sorta hate the draft going in reverse order of winning percentage: it creates a perverse incentive for losing (or at least not putting much effort into winning). I like it when they win (even when they suck), but I also want the rebuilding project to work. I hate being deeply torn like this (as I’m sure the FO is also torn).

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    76. josh 77 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      No, I agree. I’m glad the Cards found it in their heart to make some shitty plays and the Cubs thereby found some way to win. I’m not happy with what I’ve seen from Sveum at all. I didn’t really get it at the time of the signing, and I don’t get it now.

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    77. josh 78 josh says:

      Wait, Nate McLouth is a Pirate again? That’s kind of funny.

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    78. mb21 79 mb21 says:

      WaLi, I know I said this in an email, but should also be said here. This is a fantastic article and thanks a lot for writing it.

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    79. 80 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ ACT:
      Agreed. I hate having to wash the taste of shitty baseball and stupid managing out of my mouth with elixir of draft position.

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    80. Rice Cube 81 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I heard this draft class was kind of meh so it might not be a bad idea to win as many games as possible even if they don’t make the playoffs and feed the Hope Monster a bit.

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    81. Aisle424 82 Aisle424 says:

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    82. 83 Doug etetectdsaaga says:

      Why do you guys hate the baserunning. We’ve actually been a very good team running the bases. Sure, we’ve made more outs doing it too, but overall it’s been positive and we’ve been mostly good doing it.

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    83. Rice Cube 84 Rice Cube says:

      @ Doug etetectdsaaga:
      I know the baserunning numbers are positive overall but the number of facepalms we’ve had this season make me think that the metric is broken (dying laughing)

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    84. 85 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Doug etetectdsaaga:

      They lead the league in CS and they’re 14th (out of 16 NL teams) in total bases, and they have contributed 2 base runs. The only person who thinks this team is anything but mediocre, at best, on the bases is Dale Sveum.

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    85. Rice Cube 86 Rice Cube says:

      One interesting stat that I enjoyed tonight…

      In six plate appearances, David DeJesus saw 39 pitches. He did strike out three times, but they had to work for them, dammit.

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    86. 87 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Yeah, he had a couple great ABs tonight.

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    87. 88 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Aisle424:
      That is outstanding.

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    88. 89 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      Jed and Theo need to give Swayme a limit or quota of bunts per game that he can’t go over. I’ll suggest 0, but I’m guessing 1-2 is more realistic.

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    89. josh 90 josh says:

      @ Doug etetectdsaaga:
      I’m not as ashamed of the baserunning as I feared I might be. But the stubborn insistence on bunting with a runner on first no matter what is annoying.

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    90. josh 91 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I think that’s what he used to be known for, back when he was a Royal or whatever he was.

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    91. 92 Recalcitrant Blogger Nate says:

      There are very few players who I think are too shitty of people to be allowed to play their respective sport. Ron Artest (I refuse to call him meta world peace) is one of them.

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    92. 93 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:
      He was always a good hitter with the Royals, but he’s gotten into some bad habits the last 2-3 seasons. Couple that with age-based decline, and you see games like tonight less and less often. It was good to see him look like his old self at the plate, though.

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    93. 94 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Recalcitrant Blogger Nate:
      Yes. And Joey Barton.

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    94. josh 95 josh says:

      @ Recalcitrant Blogger Nate:
      But he supports world peace!

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    95. 96 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      OMFG, even Sullivan called this fucking stooge out, and fucking Sveum sutkc by his choice. Fucking dumbass cracker:

      The Cubs stranded 14 baserunners, went 3-for-17 with runners in scoring position and still haven’t figured out how to execute a bunt, a recurring theme. Dale Sveum made a risky move in the eighth by having Starlin Castro sacrifice with two on and no outs.

      Sveum said he wanted to stay out of the double play, “even though you figure they’re going to walk (Bryan) LaHair” to get to Soriano.

      “The more people you start getting on base and turning that (lineup) over is fine with me,” Sveum said.

      Soriano was 0-for-9 with seven strikeouts against the reliever, while LaHair already was 3-for-4 in the game with a two-run homer.

      “Some poor bunting, but it wasn’t as much the bunting as you have to pull back and slash in those situations when they’re charging,” he said. “It’s hard to get guys to understand that. It’s something you work on and work on, but it kind of speeds up a little during the game. That’s something we have to work on as much as anything because it’s such a prevalent part of the game.”

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    96. Suburban kid 97 Suburban kid says:

      The Cubs’ flagship radio station is WGN/720 AM. Be the holy feck, this is a quare wan. With the oul’ recent end of the feckin’ Pittsburgh Pirates’ run on KDKA, this may now be the longest team-to-station relationship in MLB. Jesus, Mary and holy Saint Joseph. Pat Hughes did the play-by-play along with color commentator Ron Santo (until the feckin’ latter’s death in December 2010) and pre- and post-game host Judd Sirott; Keith Moreland, a holy member of the 1984 Cubs, became Hughes’s color man with the start of sprin’ trainin’ in February 2011. Bejaysus this is a quare tale altogether. , to be sure.

      http://mickopedia.org/mickify.py?topic=chicago+cubs

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    97. WaLi 98 WaLi says:

      Hey guys, thanks for all the kind words for the article. I hope it made sense as I put it together pretty quick. I also had this table I forgot to attach that shows the ball exit speed based on the COR equation above.

      Weight (oz) Speed (mph) Momentum Exit Speed 95 mph Ball Exit Speed 85 mph
      2006 Pujols 31.50 86.99 2740.19 119.44 117.65
      2006 Soriano 33.00 81.00 2673.00 113.71 111.85
      2012 Soriano 33.00 78.55 2592.00 110.80 108.94
      2012 Soriano 32.00 81.00 2592.00 112.83 111.03
      Baseball 5.13 -95.00 -486.88
      Baseball 5.13 -85.00 -435.63

      Also I forgot to mention that this is simplified quite a bit. It doesn’t take into account the spin of the ball or where on the bat the ball makes contact or when in the swing the ball makes contact to determine whether the ball is hit to left field or right field. This is just one dimensional momentum.

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    98. WaLi 99 WaLi says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      Hey WaLi, are you able to write a similar piece re: the corked bat and its effect on a batted ball?

      The advantages of having a corked bat would depend on how much faster you can swing it. Let’s say you have a 31.5 oz bat and you cork it. By corking it you can reduce the weight 1.5 oz. So if you can swing it fast enough to make up for that 1.5 oz in loss of mass then you come out to an advantage. Also if you can swing it faster, you can wait on the ball more so there is an advantage there. This was a problem I had with the calculations above though. I wasn’t sure how much faster Soriano’s bat would get by reducing the weight an ounce.

      Weight //Speed //Momentum //Exit Speed 95 mph Pitch//Exit Speed 85 mph pitch
      Corked 31.50 80.00 2520.00 111.20 109.42
      Uncorked 30.00 84.00 2520.00 114.45 112.75

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    99. Rice Cube 101 Rice Cube says:

      @ WaLi:
      I got the part where the bat would be lighter but since the bat is now sort of hollow instead of one solid chunk of wood I thought that would change the way the ball would bounce off the bat due to the difference in material or energy transfer or whatever. That was probably what the MythBusters guys were trying to do (not very well).

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    100. WaLi 102 WaLi says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      If you fill it with the proper cork, the COR is surprisingling similar to a solid bat.

      This means it should perform the same as far as energy transfer.

      However, I read that with Sosa’s bat he didn’t cork his bat the traditional way (drilling out the center from one end and filling with cork). He had his bat corked in the taper closer to the handle. This allowed the moment of inertia to be greater at the end of the bat where you would want it (think swinging a sledge hammer compared to a bat) so he had some advantage since it wasn’t a uniform loss of weight. This disadvantage with this is that the bat is weaker around the tapered area, so when he got jammed with a pitch inside (as he did) the bat was more likely to break. This actually lends credence to his explanation of having a Batting Practice bat, as during BP the pitcher isn’t going to jam you.

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    101. mb21 103 mb21 says:

      WaLi wrote:

      This actually lends credence to his explanation of having a Batting Practice bat, as during BP the pitcher isn’t going to jam you.

      Interesting. I’ve never cared one way or the other, but it would seem silly to use a bat corked in the area his bat was corked in seeing as it’s much more likely to shatter.

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    102. mb21 104 mb21 says:

      Then again, athletes aren’t known for being intelligent.

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    103. WaLi 105 WaLi says:

      @ mb21:
      This is true (dying laughing) If it gave him more of an advantage maybe he was willing to take the risk.

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    104. 106 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I think we’d be shocked if we knew how prevalent bat alterations were. Hell, Bob Brenly said once that the Giants kept a cabinetmaker on staff when he played there.

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    105. GBTS 107 GBTS says:

      Huge tits anal physics

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    106. GBTS 108 GBTS says:

      Just trying to draw the right crowd in. (dying laughing)

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    107. Rice Cube 109 Rice Cube says:

      @ WaLi:
      So I guess in Sosa’s case he’d want all his force focused in the sweet spot (end of the bat or thereabouts) and that would more efficiently transfer the force to the baseball to make it go further. Interesting.

      I’d do a Star Wars segue since we’re talking about the force here, but this physics stuff is very cool.

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    108. GBTS 110 GBTS says:

      I’m going to the I-Cubs game Saturday night, so expect Rizzo and B-Jax to be called up on Friday.

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