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  • Mesa, Arizona, Cubs Pitchers and Catchers are In You

    Cubs pitchers and catchers report today so we can finally get down to talking about some serious baseball stuff like bunting tournaments and if there is any purpose at all for Steve Clevenger. But for now, this is the time on Sprockets when we dance!

    63 Responses to “Mesa, Arizona, Cubs Pitchers and Catchers are In You”

    1. SVB 1 SVB says:

      @ dmick89:
      @ Aisle424:
      Well, not to give them any credit or anything, but the site is called Rant Sports. Maybe we are just expecting too much. After all:

      Rant: 1. to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner; 2. to scold vehemently, 3. to utter in a bombastic declamatory fashion

      They seem to have the definition down, because when you are ranting, you aren’t expected to be thoughtful, logical, or even to look slightly intelligent.

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    2. SVB 2 SVB says:

      Thanks for the dancing. P&C report day: the sign that the dregs of winter are ending, no matter what some loony groundhog thinks.

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    3. 3 Myles says:

      Basically the best day of the winter

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    4. SVB 4 SVB says:

      I used to work at a sprocket factory. Whenever I tell people this, I’m pretty sure the first set of dancers comes into their minds.

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    5. dmick89 5 dmick89 says:

      @ SVB:
      I expect little from most bloggers, but these guys actually think they’re good.

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    6. Suburban kid 6 Suburban kid says:

      Still no interesting baseball till March 2nd (Japan vs Brazil).

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    7. SVB 7 SVB says:

      @ dmick89:
      Yeah, I remember them challenging you to a duel.

      But whenever I read anything there (ie. when Rice Cube punks me with a link) I can’t help but think the entire site is tongue-in-cheek.

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    8. SVB 8 SVB says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      This year we are going to have an 0-2 count ball-in-the-dirt contest. I predict Marmol wins, because the contest starts at 0-2, not 0-0.

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    9. 9 Myles says:

      Where is said challenge?

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    10. Aisle424 10 Aisle424 says:

      Alvin has a video of a slimmed-down Dan Vogelbach hitting baseballs in Mesa. If this kid really can take care of his body, I love his bat.

      http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2013/2/9/3968330/dan-vogelbach-video-cubs-fantasy-camp-report

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    11. 11 Myles says:

      He is in better shape than at least 5 position players in the MLB right now.

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    12. 12 Myles says:

      I found it.

      Do the Q and A, Mick. Don’t be a jabroni

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    13. Rice Cube 13 Rice Cube says:

      I apologize for pointing out that Rant Sports article. I don’t actually know if they’re all Cubs fans or if they rant about every other team as well, but they keep showing up in the sidebar so every now and then I click and then am immediately sorry for doing so. I should learn from this.

      Also, Anthony Rizzo should learn to hit LHP.

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    14. Suburban kid 14 Suburban kid says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      I apologize … but they keep showing up in the sidebar

      So it’s not your fault (dying laughing)

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    15. Rice Cube 15 Rice Cube says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      They’re like shiny objects, and I am but a simple raccoon.

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    16. Rice Cube 16 Rice Cube says:

      Just saw the new one on the sidebar about Castro hitting leadoff. That seems like a not-so-good idea.

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    17. GBTS 17 GBTS says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Could this be a legitimate “best shape of his life”?

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    18. Aisle424 18 Aisle424 says:

      @ GBTS:
      It certainly looks that way. Assuming thinner automatically equals better shape. I wonder if he loses much power with less mass.

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    19. SVB 19 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Yeah, that’s 1 I linked to after you put your link. The one SK said woke up his anti virus. Don’t read it. it’s stupid. Of course. Castro should bat leadoff to teach him how to take a walk.

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    20. Aisle424 20 Aisle424 says:

      Tony Campana ——> DFA

      Scott Hairston ——-> 40 man roster

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    21. Rice Cube 21 Rice Cube says:

      Campana —> DFA

      Wonder who will claim him.

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    22. Rice Cube 22 Rice Cube says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Obviously I do not read every post.

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    23. GW 23 GW says:

      Aisle424 wrote:

      Tony Campana ——> DFA

      Myles wrote:

      Basically the best day of the winter

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    24. 24 akabari says:

      On ESPN today, there’s an article about F7 that says he is “so confident in his progression, he walked away from the Cubs in talks about a 3 year deal”
      (dying laughing) seems like a big risk.

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    25. Rizzo the Rat 25 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Aisle424 wrote:

      Tony Campana ——> DFA

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    26. GBTS 26 GBTS says:

      Let’s all fondly recall Tony’s greatest moment as a Cub:

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    27. Suburban kid 27 Suburban kid says:

      I expect he’ll go to Iowa after ten days or something, no?

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    28. Rice Cube 28 Rice Cube says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      My guess is that if he doesn’t get claimed by the Braves, he’ll be an I-Cub. #ShamelessSelfPlug

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    29. SVB 29 SVB says:

      Cant you claim someone from with a full roster if you drop someone?

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    30. Suburban kid 30 Suburban kid says:

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    31. Berselius 31 Berselius says:

      @ GBTS:

      This is still my favorite gif ever

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    32. Rice Cube 32 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:
      I think so, but I’m hard-pressed to think of a guy currently on a 40-man roster that is worse than Tony Campana…

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    33. dmick89 33 dmick89 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Josh Vitters. Maybe even Dioner Navarro and Steve Clevenger. Rafael Dolis. Hell, nearly 20% of the Cubs active roster at the end of last year are worse than Campana.

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    34. SVB 34 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Well, the Angels are carrying Bill Hall, and the Indians are carrying Ryan Raburn, the Mets have Corey Patterson (or is he with Mil this year) and Marlon Byrd in camp, so they must not the guys on their 40 man. SD seems like they could use a fast OF.

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    35. dmick89 35 dmick89 says:

      You could also add Dave Sappelt, Casey Coleman and Brooks Raley to the list. Probably others.

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    36. SVB 36 SVB says:

      @ dmick89:
      this.

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    37. dmick89 37 dmick89 says:

      I’m sure some team will pick up a good defensive CF who is also one of the best base runners in the game. He won’t start much and he shouldn’t, but as a replacement and a pinch runner he can be valuable.

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    38. dmick89 38 dmick89 says:

      Campana was worth 2.1 fWAR and 1.9 rWAR over the last two years and that was a total of only a little over half a season of playing time. In other words, he’s been an above average player at the big league level. I don’t expect that to continue, but he has value.

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    39. Rice Cube 39 Rice Cube says:

      @ dmick89:
      @ dmick89:
      I agree with you that there is value to be had with those legs and the fact that he doesn’t completely suck at defense. I am guessing there’s a method to the madness, and while I do think there’s a decent chance he gets claimed, the Cubs are gambling that he will pass through. I can’t actually tell you how likely it is a team will DFA a guy just to claim Campana though.

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    40. SVB 40 SVB says:

      I think last year the Tigers might have done it. They were slow in the OF. But with the emergence of Quinten Berry, replacing Young with Hunter, and dropping Raburn, they seem like they are in better shape….still…

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    41. Rice Cube 41 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:
      Again I understand that Campana has value etc. but the fact is that this is a guy who couldn’t beat out Super Joe Mather in spring training. While I think it’s likely that the Braves claim him there’s a very good chance he ends up in Iowa anyway. I highly doubt any team will DFA someone to make room for Tony Campana. But I’m not that smart :D

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    42. SVB 42 SVB says:

      So what’s this about King Felix having an elbow issue.

      Let the comments from the Mariners fans commence…

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    43. SVB 43 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      If I had 3 open spots on my 40-man, I’d take him.

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    44. Rice Cube 44 Rice Cube says:

      @ SVB:
      I agree, and that’s my rationale for the Braves taking him. But there’s a small chance they’d be like “naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah…”

      Very small chance.

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    45. dmick89 45 dmick89 says:

      I don’t think it’s a bad thing that Campana was dfa’d. He’s not a very good hitter and the cubs have better outfielders. No big deal, but he does have value. Probably more to another team.

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    46. 46 Myles says:

      It makes sense given our 40-man situation, but I’d have preferred fungible lefty #307 being waived

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    47. 47 Chet Masterson says:

      dmick89 wrote:

      In other words, he’s been an above average player at the big league level

      I love advanced metrics as much as the next guy, but when statements like that get made….

      C’mon.

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    48. GW 48 GW says:

      @ dmick89:

      Yeah, I think he will get picked up. I also think he’s a pretty good defender, though I understand that opinions differ somewhat on the matter.

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    49. Aisle424 49 Aisle424 says:

      Pope ——-> not going to be the Pope at end of February.

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    50. WaLi 50 WaLi says:

      @ Aisle424:
      I guess putting in your two weeks notice is applicable in Rome too. I would give at least 4 weeks, but I’m a nice guy.

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    51. SVB 51 SVB says:

      Imagine if the headlines read: Pope gives two-week notice

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    52. SVB 52 SVB says:

      Who knew? A pope hasn’t resigned since well before the Cubs last won the World Series.

      /self-centered Cubs fan

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    53. dmick89 53 dmick89 says:

      @ Chet Masterson:
      Statements like what? The average NL player is 2 WAR per 700 plate appearances. He’s essentially been a replacement level batter, but a damn good baserunner and fielder (both Fangraphs and Bref agree on this). To this point in Campana’s career, he has been an above average player. Or if you’d prefer, he has performed at an above average rate, all things considered.

      That does not mean, as I said earlier, that we should expect that to continue. We shouldn’t. His defense will likely regress (same with baserunning) and he’s not a good hitter. He’s probably slightly better than replacement level and could provide value in certain roles. He can play all 3 outfield spots. He’d be a very good defensive replacement for any outfield position and he’s one hell of a baserunner.

      Darwin Barney isn’t a whole hell of a lot better at the plate than Campana and I don’t see anybody arguing he hasn’t, at the very least, performed at an average or better rate to this point in his career. If you don’t believe Campana is as valuable as WAR suggests, you cannot believe that Barney is. Which is it? Have they both sucked to this point in their careers or have they both provided value to their teams in ways other than batting?

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    54. dmick89 54 dmick89 says:

      @ SVB:
      The Cubs have as many world championships as there have been popes who have resigned over the last 600 years.

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    55. WenningtonsGorillaCock 55 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

      dmick89 wrote:

      @ SVB:
      The Cubs have as many world championships as there have been popes who have resigned over the last 600 years.

      I smell a marketing tie-in. Pope Hat Tuesdays sponsored by Bud Light?

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    56. Rice Cube 56 Rice Cube says:

      @ dmick89:
      Nice of the Cubs to keep pace.

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    57. SVB 57 SVB says:

      Happy 150th birthday to former (White Stocking/Orphan/Colt) Cub CF Jimmy “Pony” Ryan.

      In 1888 he led the NL with a .515 slugging % built on leading the league with 16 HR and 33 2b. He also had 60 SB, but that did not lead the league. He played 18 seasons, 15 with the Cubs, and accumulated a 42.9 oWAR, putting him just out of the Hall of Fame. Apparently there were rumors that he was using ipecac and saltpetre as PEDs. Considering the quality of defensive metrics in the 1880s and 1890s we won’t mention his -10.0 dWAR. He is the only major leaguer to hit for cycle while appearing in the same game as a pitcher. Wikipedia also says he punched reporters on two different occasions (those were the days!).

      He is also the best baseball player born on this date. One could argue for Ray Collins (Red Sox), I guess, but he only pitched for 7 years (2.51 ERA; 21.7 career WAR). Brian Matusz doesn’t have enough career to compare yet, but I doubt he’ll challenge Ryan for the best ballplayer born on Feb 11 title. Ryan leads all players with more than 7 AB in every offensive category that matters and most that don’t, except HR (Ben Oglivie).

      He ended his career with the Cubs in 1900, but played two more years with the Nationals in 1902-03 as the oldest player in base ball. He died in 1923. Ask SK about the funeral. I hear it was lovely.

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    58. Suburban kid 58 Suburban kid says:

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    59. Suburban kid 59 Suburban kid says:

      @ dmick89:
      I’m stealing that shit

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    60. GBTS 60 GBTS says:

      I’m glad the Pope re-signed. That could have been an ugly arbitration.

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    61. dmick89 61 dmick89 says:

      @ GBTS:
      It would have been a three god panel that determined his salary. It’s pretty simple. The bible explains the process.

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    62. GBTS 63 GBTS says:

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